Valerie - Are you familiar with the recently released book Everyone is an Einstein; and There is an Einstein in Everyone: The Constitution of Genius by author Benjamin Michael?
The car and profiling ABSOLUTELY MATTERS. As a dark-skinned black woman who was a struggling single mom and drove cash cars for many years, I can attest that when I finally started driving newer cars, my rate of getting pulled over dropped significantly. I have been pulled over for all kinds of non-existent reasons, and also for traffic flaws.
I am white and have been pulled over in a Mercedes many times. Race has nothing to do with it. You are suffering from a victim mentality. The solution is not to break the law and to be polite and accommodating to police officers. Being belligerent only escalates things. Guess what - I have even been given jaywalking tickets. Was I targeted for being white or for breaking the law? I have no one to blame but myself. Maybe people need to be responsible for their actions and not blame it on skin color.
It SUCKS! My husband and I were so excited to get an apartment in a “nice” part of town. But so disheartened when the “nice” neighbors started calling the department of traffic and parking on our dented older cars to get them ticketed if we dared to not move them every single day. If we had a day off of work, we would inevitably come out to find a big orange sticker slapped across the windshields telling us that we needed to move our cars every few days or our car would get towed. These old biddies were literally sitting in their livingroom windows watching us park and shaking their fists that some “low class” people are now daring to live in their precious neighborhood. Then one day on Halloween this woman wearing a blinking pumpkin pin walks up to me, I’m thinking she’s gonna say “Happy Halloween!” But instead she rips me a new one for “How dare you park this car in this neighborhood! You’re upsetting Mrs. Clarkson!” This woman was red in the face and shaking and angry at ME for owning a car that was older and not in great shape. Like how dare I not be wealthy. I went home crying, so upset that not only did she think it was ok to talk to me that way, but that there was more than one of her and they were in agreement that it was me that was wrong for not having a nicer newer car. How dare I be working class, in my 20s, and barely being able to afford living in San Francisco, let alone get a super nice status symbol car! When we moved a few months after that and someone from our new (more working class) neighborhood got up from her gardening as I was parallel parking in front of her house, I thought “Oh here we go again.” But instead she started waving me into the spot and helping to guide me in. What a difference! I can’t imagine how must worse it must be for people with dark skin in these situation, as I have only been having to deal with the class issues. People can be so horrible and judgmental and feel totally justified in being that way too. I’m sorry you have had to go through that and I believe you. I hate that people act like that doesn’t happen, then in the same breath they also say stupid things like “Well this happens to whyte people too.” Well if they understand that this stuff happens because of class, why can’t they imagine it also happening because of race?
@@goodgrief888 That is just so horrible. Classist people are deranged. So sorry you guys had to experience that harassment. People talk about pulling yourself up by bootstraps but still look down on ya while you're working to do so.
Thank You for Paying Attention and Reinforcing how Human Life is Most Important and for Helping Us all Mind the Gap Between us, And to Consider All of the Perspectives In play during these Critical Times. Bless you! ☮️
Malcolm Gladwell has given a loud voice to all the "victimized, underserved, and disregarded" Black community; and not least, an immortal voice for Sandra Bland. This book is such a gift and I truly think it will be a major part of the Tipping Point of change for Blacks in America.
I would love to see Gladwell and Danny Kahneman interviewed together. Little disappointed Gladwell didn't mention Kahneman's work in this interview especially when talking about job interviews. Gladwell's thoughts are a nice bookend to Kahneman's research, would be fascinating to see that interaction!
I am so into this interview. Love, absolutely love your reading your interviewer. I could tell what you were thinking when you asked about whether he was managing his own behavior and while he answers in examples , I could see what you're really thinking. We share the same birthday, September 3, 10 years later than you. Kindred spirits we are.
As always Mr Gladwell makes the case for an alternative perspective before judgements The title of the interview however has nothing to do with the conversation they had
Failing to signal in a lane change is legitimate. Is it frivolous? Sure. Gladwell’s book covers the police movement behind these frivolous reasons to pull people over. The real issue was the escalation on the part of the LEO wasn’t in line with the infraction.
Failure to use a turn signal was confirmed in the investigation. We can stop pulling people over for that. Then stop pulling people over for speeding, then stop pulling people over for running stop signs. You and I have both been pulled over for trivial issues, but we did not go insane. I actually thanked the officer for his hard work then cursed him when I got home.
Can't believe Malcolm's ideas match so well with the concept of conscious/gentle parenting, wherein discipline has got a lot to do with the parent than the child. These parenting methods mean the parents/adults need to be consciously aware of his/her own colored lenses whenever we interact with any child, especially when they are behaving "badly". We, as adults, think that we know and understand the rationality of children's thoughts, but as we don't understand another human's thought, we also won't understand a child's thoughts unless we asked. That's why conscious and gentle parenting focus on perspective taking instead of punishing children for their 'bad' behaviors.
He beautifully articulated the distinction between systematic, structural racism as opposed to personal racism which the media, people, social networking crowd get riled up.
If you watch the video what comes to mind for me is that you have two individuals with two unspoken sets of expectations. Cop asks her what's wrong, she takes that as an opportunity to answer honestly venting to him yet it's clear to me he thinks she's "mouthing off" being disrespectful to an officer and doesn't have a right to speak her feelings at that moment, but he had asked her. I'm sure to her it felt like he purposefully played games and set a trap for her. I've felt like that before with people in authority. If he didn't want her to answer honestly, he shouldn't have asked her.
An ex-girlfriend of mine used Gladwell’s Blink to justify every suspicion, bias or disagreement she had with me. His theory served as a catch-all to confirm any bias she had.
Jordan as a person who followed you from AOC and your days on the fringes of the pickup scene to now, kudos on your growth as a human. I'm sure no pickup guy thinks of Gladwell as a hero or an "alpha" and someone to look up to. Great job.
As a white guy driving a German car, I was stopped for speeding by a motorcycle cop who had been hidden behind a tree. I knew I was caught but I also knew I wouldn’t be shot, Tased or even insulted. I was very polite and compliant with the officer . I was still fined. I guess the incident was different from that experienced by many minorities.
That’s like saying if you’re donating to everyone then your donation’s not worth much. It’s about the quality of the friendship, not the exclusivity! (Exclusivity adds value/quality though 😊because it feels good and validating lol.) IMO, what do you think?
"We don't hire people based on whether we want to sleep with them" Uh....That's a bit naive. Human nature is largely driven by sexual urges both concious and unconciously. It might not be a good idea to hire based on attractiveness, but it happens all the time.
It doesn't mean the judge or boss at work is always wrong. Job interviews are a mess, though. The interviewer is usually looking for someone who is him or her. I had one boss who hired only blondes (she was blonde). I (a brunette) pointed that out one day casually, and the boss was shocked. One employee went out and dyed her hair.
His debate against Douglas Murray made me lose all respect and disinterest in his work tbh. He tried to use dirty little adhominem attacks and got absolutely manhandled on stage.
Non-verbal communication is universal. Human facial expressions like joy, contempt, regret, etc are shaped by evolutionary biology. Perception of expression is cultural.
I like Gladwell 's sincerity but most of his stories are simply anecedotal. I have been pulled over by the police in Texas for at least 10 times since I started driving but none of the incidents had ever turned into an altecation. Simply put, people today have problems against authority and this issue needs to be addressed before making the cases for prejudices or profiling.
I don't get the focus on the interaction between Bland and Encinnia. The only problem in the "Bland case" that I could discern was at the Police station. Allowing Bland to retain objects she could hurt herself with and not regularly checking on her.
Why do people make it all about whites being the racist one like ge said "am i being nice to my black neighbor" wtf? Why isnt that looked at both ways? I grew up in the "hood" all black neighbors and was victimized a lot with racism cause i was white. Even by my black friends and black women! They thought they were being nice to me but they were actually being racist af! I would hear this from 98% of my black friends "youre cool af, for a white dude" or "shawn aint white, hes one of us, hes really black" and black girls and women "oh, you fineee, for a white boy" at the time, it always made me happy to hear these things, looking at it now, its like, damn so what do you guys think of all the other white people!?? I would also get called "white boy" and they would use that stupid ass impression of how "white people talk" smh i hated that the most, cause I never and still dont know of ANY white person who talks like that, except maybe some radio station voices, of that. Smh Racism HAS TO BE LOOKED AT, AT ALLLL SIDES IF ITS EVER GOING TO END OR CHANGE! Its always a one sided arguement and thats totally wrong. Just look how much hate BLM has! 99% of them are totally racist and for what reasons??? Everyone in this Country has the SAME damn opportunity as the other person! I could have been a Pro at multiple sports, no lie but no, i chose to drop out of school, get into drugs, joined the Army, got back on drugs afterwards and now im 37, broke af, sober with no kind of Career job at all... Anyone can be successful in their life here in America, its just how badly do you want it!? We cannot look at these rich 1% (majority white) and think you can only make it like that, being white.. smh not at all. Those 1% keep everything "in the family" and do not let outsiders in, that is why theyre mostly white. So their lives trickle down and make anyone with their skin color has got some kind of advantage, well... My Last name is Nixon, im poor af, the whole Nixon side of the family is poor af and dying off due to drugs and homelessness. Wheres my advantage card?? Lol ive never in my life met a very successful white person or family either, so in my eyes and experience ive seen nothing but equality in America, except that 1 or maybe 2%. Anyways, we cannot fix HATE with HATE, there are still underlining issues that need addressed.
Processing the wrong data. Also not processing the right data! She was there for a professional interview! Not selling drugs! The distance between the reality and the perception was VAST!
How do make that one dude like you, if you claim to know how.to make everyone like you? I mean that dude that would turn up his rigidity and spite just to prove the statement wrong, if he met you (Me..)
Kept waiting for the “getting people to like you” part of this video. Good subject matter nonetheless, just misleading title that I TRUSTED would be the significant theme of this discussion.
As a white American, I cringe everytime the white cops get out of control and another black person is dead at their hands. Are the cops poorly trained? or emotionally immature? or just too nervous to handle the job? or just fricking racist?
I'm not well off and wear thrift clothing...and I'm white. I get treated badly and with disrespect all of the time, even though I try to look as clean and made-up as possible.
I don’t understand why you gave this video the title you did. It has nothing to do with getting people to like you. That topic isn’t even discussed. I always enjoy spending time with Malcolm Gladwell but was disappointed that the topic I had hoped to hear his thoughts about never even came up.
I have never had an uncomfortable meeting with police, but I am always extremely nervous. I wonder if I show that to law enforcement. Blacks do not have similar reactions to the police, I wonder how much of their absurd incarceration is due to the fact that white policemen can’t read their reaction well enough?
Loved this interview. I just wanted to add a perspective on the AI judgement thing. Almost every time I encounter an algorithm or AI related to my work or business I experience prejudice. It’s way WORSE than human prejudice because it is made by people who don’t see my motives and personality as even existing because I don’t fit into their world views. This is partly because of being in a marginalized 1% of the population on at least 3 personality and IQ measures. So I am constantly left out, made to feel like I don’t exist. I don’t even get “separate but equal” or the ability to show someone that I am like them, because I am objectively and demonstrably NOT like them. Add up the 3 characteristics and I maybe SHOULDNT exist! (Statistically). So the whole world of “systems” and “paradigms” and “beliefs” is organized against me in extremely frustrating ways because I don’t think like other people. The first time I encountered this was the public schools. Then with government systems and policies. I am also transgender and even though companies talk the talk about being inclusive, their algorithms keep flagging me because I am transgender and changed my name and move a lot since I lost my job and house because I am different. For example, I drive for a rideshare company and I changed my name and gender with them manually because the app has no way to change those things-but I got my tax information and it has my old gender name on it. Being transgender is not even the 3 other factors I already mentioned. So I am made alone and struggling because of being different, I left graduate school after 4 years because I thought differently and not even joking I thought everyone was wrong in how they saw the brain and how it relates to experience (my field). Like so definitely wrong I could not in good conscience do a Phd thesis and post-doc in that paradigm. I left and wrote a book and I am adding in at least 21 researchers now in the last 2 decades working on and supporting-some actually doing the specific revolutionary research I proposed-various aspects of the overall idea. I live in my car now. It’s a nice car, but it’s very difficult. Especially since Coronavirus shut down all the fitness centers where I showered. I make money doing gig work, but it’s hard enough getting a job as a weird transgender person while not showering for months, or being able to look presentable. It’s like there is no place on Earth for me because everyone is busy thinking about themselves and they don’t have the capacity to expand the sphere of their thoughts. The part that really sucks is that I am intelligent enough to know that my brain is this way for THEIR BENEFIT. I am extremely good at solving problems, but if the people evaluating that ability in people don’t even see the larger problems that I can and do solve, then I can and do see that in the long run this is bad for whatever nation or people take this path. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t expect anomaly given the statistics of anomaly and the high population and high access to information and thought tools for the modern world. I actually have thought that this might be WHY it’s so valuable to have all this stuff... because of what we have yet to see and/or create. So Yeah I love the Malcolm Gladwell stuff which lets us see so much more in our irrationality and incomplete ways of viewing things. I am hopeful that a generalized AI of the future will be able to see without the troublesome self-centered heuristics of a human brain self-domesticated by social hierarchy and other factors over the last couple hundred thousand years. Yet I sit in my car trying to write even though I have been driven out of towns by police because I am always doing things differently. Because of my personality I hyper-focus and I forget the world around me... so I stay parked in one spot writing for 6 hours and someone calls the police. Then I get on their radar, or list or whatever. (and they run their “cop” algorithms). One time when I still lived in Santa Clarita, I was pulled over or police stopped with their lights going behind me 6 times in 2 weeks. WITHOUT ME DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL. Just acting “different”. But after a week of the stress of that, it feels more like it’s illegal to be a super-smart transgender person to me, to my already fearfully excluded subconscious. It’s just so wrong! Anyway, there’s my perspective. Thanks again to you both. I see both of you as heroes. I am nothing but misinterpreted these days.
Stephanie, I read your whole comment. I can't imagine how you feel! I'm a white middle aged woman with an "OK" job but that's where my similarities with other mainstreams ends. I can easily keep quiet- but rarely do🤣- but I can blend in ya know. However I'm very different & people just don't like me I am alone 99% of the time. Now I'm OK with it because I'm older but the pain of not fitting in anywhere has haunted me my entire life- and I look like "them" I can't imagine how you must feel & my heart goes out to you. Keep the hope. I see you💙✌
People who have problems with cops have no empathy for the situation that cops are in. They also don't appreciate what cops do for us. And I say this as someone who has had quite a few run ins with them. Deserved run ins. However, my interactions with them have always gone smoothly because I empathize with them, appreciate them, and understand them. I do as I'm told. I don't try to anger them. Simply, I help them do their job.
It's different when your black. A whole different world. Many times black people get cuffed just by doing the same thing you say works for no reason. That's why black people tend to have a hightened reaction.
@@greatminds1017 I was eating a burger outside of my house in my car on the driveway around midnight and a cop rolled up on me asking me what I was doing there, not aggressively I admit. He parked up 50 yards from my house and only drove away when I opened my garage. There are youtube videos of a black guy being questioned aggressively for picking up trash outside the place he studies at. Another where a black man being confronted by cops while moving in to his own apartment....Many other videos too. Unfortunately the cops are used as weapons against black men in America by 'Karens' i.e. Cops are called falsely on black men regularly and sometimes it ends badly . I'm pro police by the way , some cops do a great job and deserve credit/ higher pay but some are undercover KKK/ Aryan Nation sympathizers who are on a power trip who will never admit they are wrong when they get it wrong.
Race always has to be factored in. Yo make it sound very simple when it’s not. The history of this country has shown that there are two separate sets of rules….white and black. Black folks have been set up, beat up, killed and set ablaze by police in the past for “mouthing off” or just being black.
You admitted to being in a state of "masked terror" and Boston marathon was an act of terror, while the terrorist himself was also masking his emotions of remorse apparently, as he was from a different culture. This is what Malcolm talked about.
Respectfully,In Texas,we learn early, You handle driving as a potential to Make a mistake AND GET PULLED OVER BY A POLICEMAN. I am white and 70 years old.
Why does Gladwell and nearly everyone in the USA think traffic police can see if someone is black before and up until the time they make the stop? Since the late 90s, I cannot even see well enough through modern tinted windows directly beside them and definitely not from behind the car.
Isn't Gladwell profiling the officer much the same way he claims the officer profiled her? Gladwell makes numerous assumptions he as not in fact established.
you mean if you cant teach them (beat them) join them ,well heres the problem its not enemies i want not at all i want open thinking and not just comunication puke. and by the way communication is derived from commune interesting right? no because if society keeps beign mothered for every mistake we are headed for even bigger problems so be friends sure thats a given but tolerate ignorance sorry can,t do it
Ask veteran police officers how many times a lit cigarette is used to burn them in a confrontation. That is why he asked her to put it out. Ask veteran police how many times detainees who go off the deep end without justification results in a physical altercation where the officer gets injured. At what point should the police officers accept repeated assaults and being shot dead as their job responsibilities? You have a civilian losing her mind because she was pulled over. After acting irrational behind the wheel of a motorized vehicle, the issue escalates. Perhaps a simple solution can be found...please take the keys out of the ignition while we talk as the initial step in every pullover?
I stayed in the US for just a few weeks, and as a black person i can definitely understand why she reacted that way. Just being black there it's like I was walking on egg shells. Everything you do can be taken the wrong way. Even in situations that are no big deal, black people are brought up to just expect the worst. Yes she was unreasonable in your eyes, but she was born into a culture where you just expect the worst because a lot of times calm black people who comply just can't trust the cops because they find some reason to cuff them anyway. That's just how it is. Just such an unpleasant way to live. I wouldn't be able to live like that, but African Americans have to. I highly doubt she would have burned the cop with it.
The interviewer is not very aware. “Right, ok, uh-huh” are annoying interruptions. Add nothing to the conversation. The guest is great, but I stopped listening 8 minutes in.
I am a cop and my job is to make arrests if I don't make arrests I am not doing my job. Right or wrong I will arrest someone...I am powerful and YOU will obey me.
wanting things to be simple will not fix anything. Cop=bully. We need to face the ugly and complex truths, even if that makes the journey to fairness harder.
Bobby L, if you think that a policeman is supposed to be powerful and make people fear them, then you are giving police a bad reputation. Thank goodness there are good cops in the world, real people who care and make connections with the people they serve, instead of setting themselves apart, trying to be some kind of ‘tough’ TV sheriff with a gun and little between their ears. No wonder Americans have so many problems!
This is such an annoying interview. The title is misleading. There is a very folksy set of references. Why is FRIENDS the basis of the discussion? It's so slow moving, meanders and takes so long to get to the point. Is this about just filling in time? In which case, full marks... We judge people on the basis of their demeanour at about 36mins in. It only gets interesting about there.
not on topic. Lost me at what MADE you angry. Your response is a choice. Made me angry is a blame phrase, low emotional intelligence. Then its 'more angry'. English word is angrier.
What the hell does this have to do with getting people to like you? Talk about bait and switch. It should be titled gladwell tries and fails make a case for institutional racism. ☝️
He talks about how he and his mother are kicked out of their apartment bc of their race. Pls listen to the conversation before judging it as disgusting on the basis of skin color.
Every time I read one of Gladwell's books or listen to him speak I feel smarter.
The cadence in which he speaks makes him sound so smart
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Valerie - Are you familiar with the recently released book Everyone is an Einstein; and There is an Einstein in Everyone: The Constitution of Genius by author Benjamin Michael?
How many Malcolm gladwell books have you read
The car and profiling ABSOLUTELY MATTERS. As a dark-skinned black woman who was a struggling single mom and drove cash cars for many years, I can attest that when I finally started driving newer cars, my rate of getting pulled over dropped significantly. I have been pulled over for all kinds of non-existent reasons, and also for traffic flaws.
Those with the least support system who are struggling mightily are further burdened by misconceptions and prejudice!
I am white and have been pulled over in a Mercedes many times. Race has nothing to do with it. You are suffering from a victim mentality.
The solution is not to break the law and to be polite and accommodating to police officers. Being belligerent only escalates things.
Guess what - I have even been given jaywalking tickets. Was I targeted for being white or for breaking the law? I have no one to blame but myself. Maybe people need to be responsible for their actions and not blame it on skin color.
@@MegaFount I don't believe you either fully read my comment or understood what it meant. I have been pulled over for doing nothing wrong. Have you?
It SUCKS! My husband and I were so excited to get an apartment in a “nice” part of town. But so disheartened when the “nice” neighbors started calling the department of traffic and parking on our dented older cars to get them ticketed if we dared to not move them every single day. If we had a day off of work, we would inevitably come out to find a big orange sticker slapped across the windshields telling us that we needed to move our cars every few days or our car would get towed. These old biddies were literally sitting in their livingroom windows watching us park and shaking their fists that some “low class” people are now daring to live in their precious neighborhood. Then one day on Halloween this woman wearing a blinking pumpkin pin walks up to me, I’m thinking she’s gonna say “Happy Halloween!” But instead she rips me a new one for “How dare you park this car in this neighborhood! You’re upsetting Mrs. Clarkson!” This woman was red in the face and shaking and angry at ME for owning a car that was older and not in great shape. Like how dare I not be wealthy. I went home crying, so upset that not only did she think it was ok to talk to me that way, but that there was more than one of her and they were in agreement that it was me that was wrong for not having a nicer newer car. How dare I be working class, in my 20s, and barely being able to afford living in San Francisco, let alone get a super nice status symbol car!
When we moved a few months after that and someone from our new (more working class) neighborhood got up from her gardening as I was parallel parking in front of her house, I thought “Oh here we go again.” But instead she started waving me into the spot and helping to guide me in. What a difference!
I can’t imagine how must worse it must be for people with dark skin in these situation, as I have only been having to deal with the class issues. People can be so horrible and judgmental and feel totally justified in being that way too. I’m sorry you have had to go through that and I believe you. I hate that people act like that doesn’t happen, then in the same breath they also say stupid things like “Well this happens to whyte people too.” Well if they understand that this stuff happens because of class, why can’t they imagine it also happening because of race?
@@goodgrief888 That is just so horrible. Classist people are deranged. So sorry you guys had to experience that harassment. People talk about pulling yourself up by bootstraps but still look down on ya while you're working to do so.
Malcolm Gladwell never ceases to enlighten my life 🤎
Thank You for Paying Attention and Reinforcing how Human Life is Most Important and for Helping Us all
Mind the Gap
Between us,
And to Consider
All of the Perspectives
In play during these Critical Times. Bless you! ☮️
Malcolm Gladwell has given a loud voice to all the "victimized, underserved, and disregarded" Black community; and not least, an immortal voice for Sandra Bland. This book is such a gift and I truly think it will be a major part of the Tipping Point of change for Blacks in America.
I truly hope so.
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Tipping point , I see what you did there 😁
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Its good to see the interviewer being real... loved those emotions in ur head...😊
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I would love to see Gladwell and Danny Kahneman interviewed together. Little disappointed Gladwell didn't mention Kahneman's work in this interview especially when talking about job interviews. Gladwell's thoughts are a nice bookend to Kahneman's research, would be fascinating to see that interaction!
I learned much from both the guest and interviewer. They each brought alot to the table.
Third full interview I’ve watched of yours today. Really love your approach and have really enjoyed these!!
Thank you! Do you also listen to The Jordan Harbinger Show (podcast)? My full interviews are usually there.
This was such an interesting and enjoyable video. I could listen to both of you for hours!👏👏👏
I am so into this interview. Love, absolutely love your reading your interviewer. I could tell what you were thinking when you asked about whether he was managing his own behavior and while he answers in examples , I could see what you're really thinking. We share the same birthday, September 3, 10 years later than you. Kindred spirits we are.
As always Mr Gladwell makes the case for an alternative perspective before judgements
The title of the interview however has nothing to do with the conversation they had
Do we ever question THERE WAS NO LEGITIMATE REASON for Saundra to be pulled over IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Failing to signal in a lane change is legitimate. Is it frivolous? Sure. Gladwell’s book covers the police movement behind these frivolous reasons to pull people over. The real issue was the escalation on the part of the LEO wasn’t in line with the infraction.
Failure to use a turn signal was confirmed in the investigation. We can stop pulling people over for that. Then stop pulling people over for speeding, then stop pulling people over for running stop signs. You and I have both been pulled over for trivial issues, but we did not go insane. I actually thanked the officer for his hard work then cursed him when I got home.
Can't believe Malcolm's ideas match so well with the concept of conscious/gentle parenting, wherein discipline has got a lot to do with the parent than the child. These parenting methods mean the parents/adults need to be consciously aware of his/her own colored lenses whenever we interact with any child, especially when they are behaving "badly".
We, as adults, think that we know and understand the rationality of children's thoughts, but as we don't understand another human's thought, we also won't understand a child's thoughts unless we asked. That's why conscious and gentle parenting focus on perspective taking instead of punishing children for their 'bad' behaviors.
I love how honest Jordan is, without a PC filter. It helps Malcolm open up as well.
I enjoyed this book tremendously. Thank you, MG.
I read it in one sitting! Cover to cover in about two hours! Can you say devour!
He beautifully articulated the distinction between systematic, structural racism as opposed to personal racism which the media, people, social networking crowd get riled up.
If you watch the video what comes to mind for me is that you have two individuals with two unspoken sets of expectations. Cop asks her what's wrong, she takes that as an opportunity to answer honestly venting to him yet it's clear to me he thinks she's "mouthing off" being disrespectful to an officer and doesn't have a right to speak her feelings at that moment, but he had asked her. I'm sure to her it felt like he purposefully played games and set a trap for her. I've felt like that before with people in authority. If he didn't want her to answer honestly, he shouldn't have asked her.
An ex-girlfriend of mine used Gladwell’s Blink to justify every suspicion, bias or disagreement she had with me. His theory served as a catch-all to confirm any bias she had.
You are such a freaking killer interviewer.
Love that I stumbled on this.
Jordan as a person who followed you from AOC and your days on the fringes of the pickup scene to now, kudos on your growth as a human. I'm sure no pickup guy thinks of Gladwell as a hero or an "alpha" and someone to look up to. Great job.
cause if i want to get along with someone i also have to be someone to get along with ,in other words you don't need to like someone to love them
As a white guy driving a German car, I was stopped for speeding by a motorcycle cop who had been hidden behind a tree. I knew I was caught but I also knew I wouldn’t be shot, Tased or even insulted. I was very polite and compliant with the officer . I was still fined. I guess the incident was different from that experienced by many minorities.
That's correct some at top are some exceptional!
Great Interview !
Thank you! More in The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed.
If everyone is your friend, your friendship isn't worth much.
That’s like saying if you’re donating to everyone then your donation’s not worth much. It’s about the quality of the friendship, not the exclusivity! (Exclusivity adds value/quality though 😊because it feels good and validating lol.) IMO, what do you think?
AWESOME - I LOVE THIS GUY
All hail his hair. Legend
"We don't hire people based on whether we want to sleep with them" Uh....That's a bit naive. Human nature is largely driven by sexual urges both concious and unconciously. It might not be a good idea to hire based on attractiveness, but it happens all the time.
I just read 'Outliers'. what does anyone recommend ,next?
I so enjoyed his book.
It doesn't mean the judge or boss at work is always wrong. Job interviews are a mess, though. The interviewer is usually looking for someone who is him or her. I had one boss who hired only blondes (she was blonde). I (a brunette) pointed that out one day casually, and the boss was shocked. One employee went out and dyed her hair.
sorry forgot to add but do it with consideration wich is equal to love
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His debate against Douglas Murray made me lose all respect and disinterest in his work tbh. He tried to use dirty little adhominem attacks and got absolutely manhandled on stage.
This guy's hair made me instantly like him, haha.
(jk, hoping not to offend anyone. I'm mixed race with natural hair so it feels familiar, that's all
“Flagrant injustice.”
Wow, the Boston bomber case just went to Supreme Court today.
That’s a long sentence.
not one word on how i can get one to like me
Only reason
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Cop doesn't have to breathe her smoke
Non-verbal communication is universal. Human facial expressions like joy, contempt, regret, etc are shaped by evolutionary biology. Perception of expression is cultural.
What's the book he speaks about
I like Gladwell 's sincerity but most of his stories are simply anecedotal. I have been pulled over by the police in Texas for at least 10 times since I started driving but none of the incidents had ever turned into an altecation. Simply put, people today have problems against authority and this issue needs to be addressed before making the cases for prejudices or profiling.
Are you black Daniel yang
@@jreamscape I assume you are and that is real logic right there.
I don't get the focus on the interaction between Bland and Encinnia. The only problem in the "Bland case" that I could discern was at the Police station. Allowing Bland to retain objects she could hurt herself with and not regularly checking on her.
What...?
She didn't kill herself but yeah.
“It’s astonishing how much mileage you can get with cats on the internet.”
Why do people make it all about whites being the racist one like ge said "am i being nice to my black neighbor" wtf? Why isnt that looked at both ways? I grew up in the "hood" all black neighbors and was victimized a lot with racism cause i was white. Even by my black friends and black women! They thought they were being nice to me but they were actually being racist af! I would hear this from 98% of my black friends "youre cool af, for a white dude" or "shawn aint white, hes one of us, hes really black" and black girls and women "oh, you fineee, for a white boy" at the time, it always made me happy to hear these things, looking at it now, its like, damn so what do you guys think of all the other white people!?? I would also get called "white boy" and they would use that stupid ass impression of how "white people talk" smh i hated that the most, cause I never and still dont know of ANY white person who talks like that, except maybe some radio station voices, of that. Smh Racism HAS TO BE LOOKED AT, AT ALLLL SIDES IF ITS EVER GOING TO END OR CHANGE! Its always a one sided arguement and thats totally wrong. Just look how much hate BLM has! 99% of them are totally racist and for what reasons??? Everyone in this Country has the SAME damn opportunity as the other person! I could have been a Pro at multiple sports, no lie but no, i chose to drop out of school, get into drugs, joined the Army, got back on drugs afterwards and now im 37, broke af, sober with no kind of Career job at all... Anyone can be successful in their life here in America, its just how badly do you want it!? We cannot look at these rich 1% (majority white) and think you can only make it like that, being white.. smh not at all. Those 1% keep everything "in the family" and do not let outsiders in, that is why theyre mostly white. So their lives trickle down and make anyone with their skin color has got some kind of advantage, well... My Last name is Nixon, im poor af, the whole Nixon side of the family is poor af and dying off due to drugs and homelessness. Wheres my advantage card?? Lol ive never in my life met a very successful white person or family either, so in my eyes and experience ive seen nothing but equality in America, except that 1 or maybe 2%. Anyways, we cannot fix HATE with HATE, there are still underlining issues that need addressed.
After watching Gladwell’s performance in the debate on trust in mainstream on Munk I have zero respect for him.
Processing the wrong data. Also not processing the right data! She was there for a professional interview! Not selling drugs! The distance between the reality and the perception was VAST!
23:36 starts to get interesting - facial expressions
How do make that one dude like you, if you claim to know how.to make everyone like you? I mean that dude that would turn up his rigidity and spite just to prove the statement wrong, if he met you (Me..)
Kept waiting for the “getting people to like you” part of this video.
Good subject matter nonetheless, just misleading title that I TRUSTED would be the significant theme of this discussion.
Podcast episode has loads about this. The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed
As a white American, I cringe everytime the white cops get out of control and another black person is dead at their hands. Are the cops poorly trained? or emotionally immature? or just too nervous to handle the job? or just fricking racist?
Why don’t you become a cop and find out for yourself?
I'm not well off and wear thrift clothing...and I'm white. I get treated badly and with disrespect all of the time, even though I try to look as clean and made-up as possible.
What about her failure to indicate turn?
Greene and Gladwell sound very similar.
I don’t understand why you gave this video the title you did. It has nothing to do with getting people to like you. That topic isn’t even discussed. I always enjoy spending time with Malcolm Gladwell but was disappointed that the topic I had hoped to hear his thoughts about never even came up.
Why would I want everyone to like me?
I’m amazed how disconnected to intelligence this comment section is. Complete contrast to the actual video
UA-cam is like that. I feel like the smarter portion of the audience listens to The Jordan Harbinger Show podcast feed
People, & myself included, don’t have time.
I have never had an uncomfortable meeting with police, but I am always extremely nervous. I wonder if I show that to law enforcement. Blacks do not have similar reactions to the police, I wonder how much of their absurd incarceration is due to the fact that white policemen can’t read their reaction well enough?
Inner soul mostly idealism
Loved this interview. I just wanted to add a perspective on the AI judgement thing. Almost every time I encounter an algorithm or AI related to my work or business I experience prejudice. It’s way WORSE than human prejudice because it is made by people who don’t see my motives and personality as even existing because I don’t fit into their world views. This is partly because of being in a marginalized 1% of the population on at least 3 personality and IQ measures. So I am constantly left out, made to feel like I don’t exist. I don’t even get “separate but equal” or the ability to show someone that I am like them, because I am objectively and demonstrably NOT like them. Add up the 3 characteristics and I maybe SHOULDNT exist! (Statistically). So the whole world of “systems” and “paradigms” and “beliefs” is organized against me in extremely frustrating ways because I don’t think like other people. The first time I encountered this was the public schools. Then with government systems and policies. I am also transgender and even though companies talk the talk about being inclusive, their algorithms keep flagging me because I am transgender and changed my name and move a lot since I lost my job and house because I am different. For example, I drive for a rideshare company and I changed my name and gender with them manually because the app has no way to change those things-but I got my tax information and it has my old gender name on it. Being transgender is not even the 3 other factors I already mentioned. So I am made alone and struggling because of being different, I left graduate school after 4 years because I thought differently and not even joking I thought everyone was wrong in how they saw the brain and how it relates to experience (my field). Like so definitely wrong I could not in good conscience do a Phd thesis and post-doc in that paradigm. I left and wrote a book and I am adding in at least 21 researchers now in the last 2 decades working on and supporting-some actually doing the specific revolutionary research I proposed-various aspects of the overall idea. I live in my car now. It’s a nice car, but it’s very difficult. Especially since Coronavirus shut down all the fitness centers where I showered. I make money doing gig work, but it’s hard enough getting a job as a weird transgender person while not showering for months, or being able to look presentable. It’s like there is no place on Earth for me because everyone is busy thinking about themselves and they don’t have the capacity to expand the sphere of their thoughts. The part that really sucks is that I am intelligent enough to know that my brain is this way for THEIR BENEFIT. I am extremely good at solving problems, but if the people evaluating that ability in people don’t even see the larger problems that I can and do solve, then I can and do see that in the long run this is bad for whatever nation or people take this path. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t expect anomaly given the statistics of anomaly and the high population and high access to information and thought tools for the modern world. I actually have thought that this might be WHY it’s so valuable to have all this stuff... because of what we have yet to see and/or create. So Yeah I love the Malcolm Gladwell stuff which lets us see so much more in our irrationality and incomplete ways of viewing things. I am hopeful that a generalized AI of the future will be able to see without the troublesome self-centered heuristics of a human brain self-domesticated by social hierarchy and other factors over the last couple hundred thousand years. Yet I sit in my car trying to write even though I have been driven out of towns by police because I am always doing things differently. Because of my personality I hyper-focus and I forget the world around me... so I stay parked in one spot writing for 6 hours and someone calls the police. Then I get on their radar, or list or whatever. (and they run their “cop” algorithms). One time when I still lived in Santa Clarita, I was pulled over or police stopped with their lights going behind me 6 times in 2 weeks. WITHOUT ME DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL. Just acting “different”. But after a week of the stress of that, it feels more like it’s illegal to be a super-smart transgender person to me, to my already fearfully excluded subconscious. It’s just so wrong! Anyway, there’s my perspective. Thanks again to you both. I see both of you as heroes. I am nothing but misinterpreted these days.
Stephanie, I read your whole comment. I can't imagine how you feel! I'm a white middle aged woman with an "OK" job but that's where my similarities with other mainstreams ends. I can easily keep quiet- but rarely do🤣- but I can blend in ya know. However I'm very different & people just don't like me I am alone 99% of the time. Now I'm OK with it because I'm older but the pain of not fitting in anywhere has haunted me my entire life- and I look like "them" I can't imagine how you must feel & my heart goes out to you. Keep the hope. I see you💙✌
Ahole honeypot!
People who have problems with cops have no empathy for the situation that cops are in. They also don't appreciate what cops do for us. And I say this as someone who has had quite a few run ins with them. Deserved run ins. However, my interactions with them have always gone smoothly because I empathize with them, appreciate them, and understand them. I do as I'm told. I don't try to anger them. Simply, I help them do their job.
best post ever.
It's different when your black. A whole different world. Many times black people get cuffed just by doing the same thing you say works for no reason. That's why black people tend to have a hightened reaction.
@@greatminds1017 I was eating a burger outside of my house in my car on the driveway around midnight and a cop rolled up on me asking me what I was doing there, not aggressively I admit. He parked up 50 yards from my house and only drove away when I opened my garage. There are youtube videos of a black guy being questioned aggressively for picking up trash outside the place he studies at. Another where a black man being confronted by cops while moving in to his own apartment....Many other videos too. Unfortunately the cops are used as weapons against black men in America by 'Karens' i.e. Cops are called falsely on black men regularly and sometimes it ends badly . I'm pro police by the way , some cops do a great job and deserve credit/ higher pay but some are undercover KKK/ Aryan Nation sympathizers who are on a power trip who will never admit they are wrong when they get it wrong.
Race always has to be factored in. Yo make it sound very simple when it’s not. The history of this country has shown that there are two separate sets of rules….white and black. Black folks have been set up, beat up, killed and set ablaze by police in the past for “mouthing off” or just being black.
Masked terror in the host of the show, as he admits and Boston marathon was an act of terror.
Huh?
It's a play on words, if you didn't get it.
You admitted to being in a state of "masked terror" and Boston marathon was an act of terror, while the terrorist himself was also masking his emotions of remorse apparently, as he was from a different culture. This is what Malcolm talked about.
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Respectfully,In Texas,we learn early,
You handle driving as a potential to
Make a mistake AND GET PULLED OVER BY A POLICEMAN.
I am white and 70 years old.
Why does Gladwell and nearly everyone in the USA think traffic police can see if someone is black before and up until the time they make the stop? Since the late 90s, I cannot even see well enough through modern tinted windows directly beside them and definitely not from behind the car.
Oke : im not so smart, on where, or how to post, - (in) here : but look at a comment on: 'Mitch Virtually "....
Hey Pa-Ling : you dumbed down smart - ass :... posting or commenting on "what"....?!
It doesn't matter what your ethnicity if you are pulled over you cooperate with the police. Do what you are asked.
Isn't Gladwell profiling the officer much the same way he claims the officer profiled her? Gladwell makes numerous assumptions he as not in fact established.
you mean if you cant teach them (beat them) join them ,well heres the problem its not enemies i want not at all i want open thinking and not just comunication puke. and by the way communication is derived from commune interesting right? no because if society keeps beign mothered for every mistake we are headed for even bigger problems so be friends sure thats a given but tolerate ignorance sorry can,t do it
Hyundai is made in Texas
I didn't even know. Probably costs the same in every state tho.
Gladwell = not quite secondary research
lets all be openly racist
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there's no such thing as a 10-sided die.
29:45
u mean Getting people to ACT like they like you or WANT u to think they like u.. NOBODY likes everybody.
Okay so this talk has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TITLE
Ask veteran police officers how many times a lit cigarette is used to burn them in a confrontation. That is why he asked her to put it out. Ask veteran police how many times detainees who go off the deep end without justification results in a physical altercation where the officer gets injured. At what point should the police officers accept repeated assaults and being shot dead as their job responsibilities? You have a civilian losing her mind because she was pulled over. After acting irrational behind the wheel of a motorized vehicle, the issue escalates. Perhaps a simple solution can be found...please take the keys out of the ignition while we talk as the initial step in every pullover?
I stayed in the US for just a few weeks, and as a black person i can definitely understand why she reacted that way. Just being black there it's like I was walking on egg shells. Everything you do can be taken the wrong way. Even in situations that are no big deal, black people are brought up to just expect the worst. Yes she was unreasonable in your eyes, but she was born into a culture where you just expect the worst because a lot of times calm black people who comply just can't trust the cops because they find some reason to cuff them anyway. That's just how it is. Just such an unpleasant way to live. I wouldn't be able to live like that, but African Americans have to. I highly doubt she would have burned the cop with it.
They weren't both right...
The interviewer is not very aware. “Right, ok, uh-huh” are annoying interruptions. Add nothing to the conversation. The guest is great, but I stopped listening 8 minutes in.
I am a cop and my job is to make arrests if I don't make arrests I am not doing my job. Right or wrong I will arrest someone...I am powerful and YOU will obey me.
Sounds like you don't know your job description.
wanting things to be simple will not fix anything. Cop=bully. We need to face the ugly and complex truths, even if that makes the journey to fairness harder.
Bobby L, if you think that a policeman is supposed to be powerful and make people fear them, then you are giving police a bad reputation. Thank goodness there are good cops in the world, real people who care and make connections with the people they serve, instead of setting themselves apart, trying to be some kind of ‘tough’ TV sheriff with a gun and little between their ears. No wonder Americans have so many problems!
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This is such an annoying interview. The title is misleading. There is a very folksy set of references. Why is FRIENDS the basis of the discussion?
It's so slow moving, meanders and takes so long to get to the point. Is this about just filling in time? In which case, full marks...
We judge people on the basis of their demeanour at about 36mins in. It only gets interesting about there.
I thought this was about getting people to like you. I did not expect to hear about police stopping a person of color and on and on.
then you definitely won't like the book -lol
@@JordanHarbingerShow what's with the Dale Carnegie?
Cops need to address these issues or replaced by robots....who don't see race
not on topic. Lost me at what MADE you angry. Your response is a choice. Made me angry is a blame phrase, low emotional intelligence. Then its 'more angry'. English word is angrier.
They take forever to get to a point
Malcom should ck before you marry!
Scamness for sure
They're not actually "both right". Your privilege and life experiences are showing...
What the hell does this have to do with getting people to like you? Talk about bait and switch. It should be titled gladwell tries and fails make a case for institutional racism. ☝️
Police want "respect" - get over your sense of importance
Doesn’t sound right - I still don’t like him
Two white guys discussing whether something is racist or not, where a black woman who should not have been arrested dies in custody, disgusting
Mr. Gladwell's half black...
He talks about how he and his mother are kicked out of their apartment bc of their race. Pls listen to the conversation before judging it as disgusting on the basis of skin color.
i think this guys racist and but its apart of life
You think Malcolm Gladwell, who is half black, is racist? Racist towards which half of himself? 🤡
Malcolm Gladwell is not a black man
Great interview!