Well this is what happens when there is a race to the bottom, ultimately the consumer is to blame for only buying the cheapest goods. I'm sure that if Toshiba had been able to shift DVD recorders for $500 in 2009, as they were able to in 2003, they'd have done just that, and the VCR part of this unit would not be made at the cheapest possible cost. VCRs were selling for well under $50US at the end, and it's simply not possible to build quality into a product as complex as a VCR when you're down to that level.
I worked for Tops Electronics From 1983 -2005 up in Massachusetts. We had contracts with all the huge retail stores to repair their returned products. It was a gold mine in the 80s through the nineties.We were on commission and would get 25% of all repairs.Wow did I make lots of money back then.My average count was about 70-90 units to complete repairs on a week. I had my hands in everything.Just like you said the no warranty throw-away junk products of the nineties killed the business.
I worked for Sony Canad in 83 into 84, and then went to Jacks TV for the next 19 years. I started out as a hourly tech, but went to commission based in the 90's and was paid 50% of the shop labor. We did tons of stuff, but the money makers were VCRs in the 80's and 90's VCR repair bottom fell out by 2000. I could see the writing on the wall, and got out by the summer of 2003. The store hung in there until 2012 and then closed after 47 years in business. It was a fun time, but I certainly don't miss it at all. Now it is just a hobby for me, and a way to make some extra cash to put to my retirement, which as an old co-worker used to say, is closer than you think. 7 more years for me and then I put my ladder away for the last time.
I said I was on commission but I also got a healthy hourly wage on top of that.speaking of Sony,I went to countless seminars hosted by the manufactures so to keep our factory auth. I used to go to sleep counting NARDA forms.Sony had many seminars/schools in Westwood MA. I remember Clarence Bell was the top representative for them.
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Is this the same Topps that manufactured out of Japan in the late 60s early 70s?
No, It Was Tops Electronics,which started in Topsfield Massachusetts.Tops Electronic Service, Inc. is a family business begun in 1977 by our founder Anthony Bonanno. The family tradition continues today as we have grown to include over 75 full time technicians with 40 full time support staff. Our family includes our neighbors as well as nationally known companies coast to coast. From our humble beginnings we have expanded to occupy 40, 000 square feet
Thanks 12voltvids for the great video. It was really helpful. After watching it I decided to try and fix my friend's VCR section and eventually found the two screws to separate the circuit board from the frame which now allows me access to the mode switch. Not sure how to proceed opening and then re-aligning the switch, even after reading the great comments from "The VCR King", so if you could share any information on that topic it would be most appreciated. Thanks again for the very instructional video and your time and consideration on this matter. :-)
That is exactly my problem too. VCR in that Toshiba was used by me seldom from new - may be it is the factor? Few years earlier was ok but once I wanted to play last time it refused. Looking inside I noticed head drum rotating but capstain steady so all stops quickly. All rest is so far good and I want not to spoil - it is heart of my TV system driving unique B&O plasma screen which is serving also as PC Monitor. . . Facing lot of dismantling I gave up just as You did after dismantling and assembling. Now I see I did the right choice not to try. . Thank You for this helpful instruction.
I have the same model. Any idea what is flashing green on power button means? Cassette not going in, like its powered off and dvd tray also not ejecting. The display in the front has flashing - -:- -
It likely the mode gear has same problem where capstan won’t go forward and also would think a tape was still in the deck. After cleaning mode gear works fine, they don’t like to sit unused and contacts corrode, leave it unused long enough capacitors go high ESR and had one that even blew transistor on main PCB going to capstan. Did repair that one. Just lift the board after removing the two screws one hidden by flex cable and you can pop off the top mode gear and clean, no need to desolder. DVD recorder was made by Panasonic and rest by Funai. Toshiba just put their name on it, but Toshiba did not make this one, Funai did and that actually one of the more rare one, then the typical one I come across as that has the digital ATSC tuner, later after 2009 they removed the tuner completely. It was worth fixing as they have a good processor despite lackluster built quality and the dvd recorder is great for transfers as S video input works on pretty much any media throw into it and picture quality is great better then some of the high end dvd recorders I used back in the day. Plus my professional TBC works well with it, of course using other hi8 to SVHS decks for playback. So reason people pay still $200 plus for them. Yes sucks to work on them. Parts are easy to find as Toshiba, Magnavox and Funai were all the same rebadged and made from 2008 to late 2016 was the last one Funai made. They had a long production run on these. They worth refurbishing as Usually get about $200 plus for them and usually sell in 1 to 3 days from listing them. Plus kept a couple I use for myself.
I was given one of these but it is sylvania, weired that the case also has the groove on the top metal piece and the one I have also has that fan on the back. Thing is super heavy too. I am surprised how heavy the thing is for being a funai machine.
I did tear down one of these that had a failing encoder switch. Your right it is not designed to be easily serviced. It does need fully stripping down and the carriage and PCB removed in one part. Then partially separating the carriage from the PCB just enough to give access to the rotary encoder switch. I managed to resolve with WD40 and plenty of rotating to make sure the connections were worked.. Assuring the encoder was in the reset position before reassembly. It does look as if the encoder can be desoldered and removed from the PCB however I you will have to be mindful of the heat transfer into a plastic switch.
WD-40 is going to ruin that switch! I've been refurbish I and selling these. If I was you if get that off the switch, get a fiberglas pen, some plastic safe contact cleaner (or running alcohol or deoxit), and put some dielectric grease in it.
Hi I have a JVC VCR when I insert a tape it ejects and powers off, it was working before sometimes it makes a noise ejects and powers off, could the mode switch need cleaning
I've had to repair these machines and yes they are a pain in the Arse in many different ways ...... usually the drive clutch for the take up reel wears slips to much or the belt gets loose , makes it a pain to replace , usually resulting in the take up reel not pulling taught or not at all on the tape eventually telling the machine that there is a problem, or the control switches getting dirty .. and oh my hell if one the end tape sensors go.. what a nightmare that is to repair .... But when they do work they do a great job... Its so sad that we want to recycle and keep things working for longer , but we make everything disposable and non repairable, i love to bring things back from the dead .. been doing it since the early 80's .. I'm really sick and tired of the contradictions.nowadays and the laziness of society .. Thank you for the upload .. seen and done this many many a time !! LOL
I just bought one of these at Goodwill for $4.99. it had some problems on the VCR side. Completely opened it up, cleaned adjusted and greased everything and sold it 12 hours later for $169.00. Mine did this same thing, I cleaned the mode selector switch, good as new.
D-VR660 I have this machine! I bought it new, in its original box, back when it was first being sold. I was going to ask for help fixing mine (the DVD part and the VCR) but after seeing you take it apart I don't think I can manage that kind of intricate surgery without bruising or breaking something else in the process. How do you make those sobbing emojis? :-(
This year I've bought a 2004 Thomson DTH8000 DVD recorder (also known as RCA DRC8000) in mint condition with the original remote for SEVEN dollars. Even with the highest quality setting (1 hour/DVD, more then 8Mbits/sec), there's a lot of MPEG artifacts on the picture, it's noticable even on VHS recordings. I thought I would use it for archiving VHS to DVDs, now I rather not. *BUT!* But surprisingly it's doing all the digital signal processing (except MPEG-II encoding) AND digital Time Base Correction on any signal I send through it. There's about 2 seconds delay between the inputs and outputs, and it makes wonders with bad quality, jumping, rolling etc. video from trash condition tapes. So I just bought a rather good digital TBC for seven bucks, which I can use with my 15 years old PCI TV tuner card for digitizing VHS tapes. This card can't handle unstable sync, it drops a lot of frames and the audio goes seconds out of sync within minutes. This DVD recorder used as a TBC should fix this issue, and it has composite, S-Video and even RGB inputs!
I have Sony DVD/HDD recorder I love it and some store bought DVDs do not have copy protection it's a small few but some don't so it lets you high speed dub the whole disc to the HDD it's awesome 2008 model old now but well built and ahead of its time I think.
I have a Magnavox combo like that.The VCR quit. Put a tape in, unit shuts off after about 10 seconds. I think the tape gets caught. Am afraid to risk another tape.
Very good video. I wish I could have you repairing my Sony Video Walkman.
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Those suckers sell for $200... I found one without remote for $5 a few months back.. luckily mine worked 100% minus remote. I tested the DVD quality and was better than expected.. I tested against Toast and authoring tools on my computer. Hard benchmark to beat. But yeah pretty convenient..but people want this for the HDMI upscaling . Kids run video games through it to their Hi-def tv's. Revealing video thanks for sharing. I did pop the top off but just to clean out a few dust bunnies and clean the heads up ect.
Telephone company. Ya, ya I can here it now, nobody has phones. Well we do mostly fiber optic and DSL work now, and of course cable TV delivered via DSL and fiber.
This thing looks terrible inside... and I've got one just like it! But hell, at least it's got a separate loading motor, which is a surprise to me. Mine has about 50 hours on it, given to me by someone who just wanted their vhs tapes archived using it, so I did that in exchange for that deck. VHS playback really isn't very good but it does just barely pass minimum standards. DVD recorder quality didn't compare super well well with some other ones I have. So it sits in the stack of similar equipment, I loaned it to a friend to make transfers and it will do more, just nothing really important. Seeing your video here makes me wonder how the dvd recorder would handle vhs transfers of poorly recorded signals ( like damaged tape and analog recordings made of poor tv reception). If I remember this thing has few control options. I want to see if it can avoid various glitches when digitizing. If so maybe i'll let it run my moldy tapes (the ones I don't care that much about, after only a minimal demoldification).
I could be wrong, but I think towards the end, Toshiba partnered with Funai on the vcr side of some of their final combo models and Panasonic on the DVD side. Ironically, Sony partnered with Toshiba on the DVD recorder of some of their final combo models. That annoys me in the industry... LG sometimes uses AU Optronics panels in their tv's while cheaper Acer's Uses LG panels in some of their monitors. Same goes for Samsung. Some of these companies build better parts, then don't use them in their own models to keep the cost down. Toshiba had some really good combos (on the ones they actually built with their parts), but but last few years combos were manufactured everyone was cutting costs, and it showed. Toshiba was one of the last to stick it out until the very end with ATSC tuners and HDMI support for VHS at least.
This wasn't made by Toshiba, this was built by Funai. Worst VCRs ever made! Most of these Funai VCRs with this chassis were not built to be repaired. But there was some of these chassis that used ribbon cables instead of wires being soldered on the circuit board, they were only found in some Funai built stand alone VCRs. But in Funai built VCR/DVD combos, (Magnavox, Sylvania, Emerson, Sanyo, Newer Toshibas) they've always used the chassis that's soldered to the circuit board. BUT you can still clean the mode switch and replace the belt. You didn't see them but there are 2 screws on the circuit board that need to come out. That won't completely remove the board but you will have access to the capstan belt and mode switch. If you want to clean the mode switch on it, you have to flip the board/chassis back as if you were going to put it back in its cabinet. That will let you hold the front part of the mechanism and you can easily clean the mode switch. I've done that with my Toshiba VCR/DVD combo and now it works perfectly.
Found those two screws after watching the video and yes one can access the belt and mode switch after doing that. I would like to clean the mode switch but am not sure how to proceed with doing that. I presume that the switch doesn't need to be unsoldered to clean it....is that correct? I am also wondering how one goes about opening the mode switch to reveal the contents to be cleaned and also how to make sure once the switch is re-assembled how to make sure it is aligned correctly with the other components it connects too. Any information on that subject would be most appreciated. Thanks!
The VCR at the left looks the same as Funai VCRs out there, and alas, Toshiba chooses the Funai VCR Mechanism to the point they don't want to service them anymore, although the Prerecorded VHS is discontinued in 2008 due to an obsolete. One I see the Fellow YT User Spats Bear made the video of "Funai.....," whenever the Chinese made VCRs and DVDs had failed, he will smash them thing up and end them.
LG DVD-VHS combos are just as bad - except the issue is not so much with the VCR, but the DVD recorder drive - these often fail without warning, and cost more than the whole unit is worth to replace. Been there, done that. Never again. Life is too short.
The LG and JVC DVD VHS recorder like this with the digital tuner is actually much easier to work on as you just need to unplug audio/control head remove 6 transport screw and whole deck lift out without having to take the whole thing apart. The LG JVC which is actually made by LG they are worst as had ones where the processor fails and the VHS deck is pure crap for the most part. The Funai are at least useable once you fix the mode gear issue. The LG transport like to crinkle tapes as lack of back tension and poor brake design. Yes your right the DVD drive fails without warning is a huge issue with the LG JVC units come across. They throw out a region error cannot be played back on recordable media when they fail usually and laser drivers and spindle motor fail on them often. The Funai really don’t have that issue unless you put tons of hours on them, then Eventually it will need a new laser. I have a JVC MV100B pretty much no hours on it, drive fail already on it and get region error when trying any DVD -R in it and only literally only 4 hours on it total. Yes LG made it.
My grandad has next model up. His machine won't copy from a VHS tape to DVD it well tell you to put a VHS tape in even though there is one in the machine and try to copy from DVD to a VHS tape it will say put a DVD in the drive. Very unusual problem. And the loading motor for VCR is goning to die soon because it's very noisy. The last VCR/DVD recorder was sanyo branded and it was cosmetically different and it was made up till DVD/VCR players were discontinued.
The dvd player on this unit, no it will not play the whole dvd without the user witnessing that the dvd will crash. You can simply put a dvd into the drive of this unit, and witness that dvd does not play fine in the unit. The dvd laser has to be tuned up.
I thinking it is 4 because the capstan motor is dead, yet the loading mechanism was working and the motor that appears to be eject mechanism related did not appear to be spinning during the threading of the tape. Also that at 5:10 he seemed to indicate 2 separate load motors. But I am not familiar with this exact mechanism and don't see much room for that 4th motor to be honest.
At 27:00, could you explain how to free, disconnect, reconnect, the three ribbon cables of the DVD unit. The one at the NE corner is « trivial » but I can’t figure out yet how to do the three others. SOLUTION: just pull on it, no release mechanism. Push it to reconnect. Found it in another one of your video at 28:20 ua-cam.com/video/ClMkVLXmgdc/v-deo.htmlsi=wNXtK2o2tMzZn5w1
It really is a sin what they charge for people to buy these machines! The best long-lasting VCRs I have ever owned were the Panasonic pv-1100, PV1200 and Toshiba DX-800/ DX-7!
I looked it up, almost the same configuration where the tuners are different NTSC vs PAL and RCA jacks Vs BNC, the only thing i didnt see was the tracking and speed control! IDK if I had a rare problem with the PV1200 as the tracking control center position changed randomly, I think my parents brought it in and they said the alignment was good and they couldn't find anything wrong with the tracking control circuit as it randomly shifted with each play and power up and down, even on the same tape which the machine recorded itself!
The VCRs which I thought was a Joke were Fisher FVH-515 which they even made the same one for under Radio Shack's Realistic Name both had problems with the motor control chips that kept burning out and last but not least VCR Joke was Sharp's "MyVideo" VHS with cheap camera which we referred to it as Fisher Price Toys!
R H The NV-8600-E/B is a single-speed machine so there's no SP-LP switch. My 8600-EM has a AUTO-NTSC switch next to the tracking knob, as it's the multi system version. Fisher was bought by Sanyo in 1975 so everything Fisher-branded was made by Sanyo.
Hi. I love your videos . I'm one of your loyal fan. Could you please, make a video for beginners : How we can check components inside electronic chassis of a CRT and other sets .How we check them with multimeter .because step by step is good for begginers. you are the best of the best . Engineer, we appreciate your knowledge , wish the best for you and your family . I wish one day of my life , i will meet you . Thanks for everything
We had Toshiba DVD recorders each , we had them for just over a year . They both shut down after that , the power supply failed permanently ! Toshiba refused to do spares after they sold them ! This is what they think of their goods ? Yeah buy our crap & don't come back for more . This is what they want , A BAD REPUTATION !
It is shame that funai made machine that horrible just to let some people now that funai owns Toshiba, Emerson, Sanyo, Sylvania, symphonic, Magnavox, Phillips, Hitachi, and more
Funai?Symphonic, lol, many hours on hold trying to get parts, some times on speaker phone 2 to 3 hours. GARBAGE. Early 90's. That being said, Sony sucked in the 70's. 6 months wait for a thermistor. Could not cross reference.
This VCR is a carbon copy of the Magnavox ZV450MW8.
Well this is what happens when there is a race to the bottom, ultimately the consumer is to blame for only buying the cheapest goods.
I'm sure that if Toshiba had been able to shift DVD recorders for $500 in 2009, as they were able to in 2003, they'd have done just that, and the VCR part of this unit would not be made at the cheapest possible cost.
VCRs were selling for well under $50US at the end, and it's simply not possible to build quality into a product as complex as a VCR when you're down to that level.
I worked for Tops Electronics From 1983 -2005 up in Massachusetts. We had contracts with all the huge retail stores to repair their returned products. It was a gold mine in the 80s through the nineties.We were on commission and would get 25% of all repairs.Wow did I make lots of money back then.My average count was about 70-90 units to complete repairs on a week. I had my hands in everything.Just like you said the no warranty throw-away junk products of the nineties killed the business.
oh you got to see some interesting times! Back when a vcr was $600 and was actually quality and worth fixing. you guys had the best of it alright lol
I worked for Sony Canad in 83 into 84, and then went to Jacks TV for the next 19 years. I started out as a hourly tech, but went to commission based in the 90's and was paid 50% of the shop labor. We did tons of stuff, but the money makers were VCRs in the 80's and 90's VCR repair bottom fell out by 2000. I could see the writing on the wall, and got out by the summer of 2003. The store hung in there until 2012 and then closed after 47 years in business.
It was a fun time, but I certainly don't miss it at all. Now it is just a hobby for me, and a way to make some extra cash to put to my retirement, which as an old co-worker used to say, is closer than you think. 7 more years for me and then I put my ladder away for the last time.
I said I was on commission but I also got a healthy hourly wage on top of that.speaking of Sony,I went to countless seminars hosted by the manufactures so to keep our factory auth. I used to go to sleep counting NARDA forms.Sony had many seminars/schools in Westwood MA. I remember Clarence Bell was the top representative for them.
Is this the same Topps that manufactured out of Japan in the late 60s early 70s?
No, It Was Tops Electronics,which started in Topsfield Massachusetts.Tops Electronic Service, Inc. is a family business begun in 1977 by our founder Anthony Bonanno. The family tradition continues today as we have grown to include over 75 full time technicians with 40 full time support staff. Our family includes our neighbors as well as nationally known companies coast to coast. From our humble beginnings we have expanded to occupy 40, 000 square feet
Thanks 12voltvids for the great video. It was really helpful. After watching it I decided to try and fix my friend's VCR section and eventually found the two screws to separate the circuit board from the frame which now allows me access to the mode switch. Not sure how to proceed opening and then re-aligning the switch, even after reading the great comments from "The VCR King", so if you could share any information on that topic it would be most appreciated. Thanks again for the very instructional video and your time and consideration on this matter. :-)
That is exactly my problem too. VCR in that Toshiba was used by me seldom from new - may be it is the factor? Few years earlier was ok but once I wanted to play last time it refused. Looking inside I noticed head drum rotating but capstain steady so all stops quickly. All rest is so far good and I want not to spoil - it is heart of my TV system driving unique B&O plasma screen which is serving also as PC Monitor. . . Facing lot of dismantling I gave up just as You did after dismantling and assembling. Now I see I did the right choice not to try. . Thank You for this helpful instruction.
I have the same model. Any idea what is flashing green on power button means? Cassette not going in, like its powered off and dvd tray also not ejecting. The display in the front has flashing - -:- -
Good work getting a one shot partially working. DVD looks good.
It likely the mode gear has same problem where capstan won’t go forward and also would think a tape was still in the deck. After cleaning mode gear works fine, they don’t like to sit unused and contacts corrode, leave it unused long enough capacitors go high ESR and had one that even blew transistor on main PCB going to capstan. Did repair that one. Just lift the board after removing the two screws one hidden by flex cable and you can pop off the top mode gear and clean, no need to desolder. DVD recorder was made by Panasonic and rest by Funai. Toshiba just put their name on it, but Toshiba did not make this one, Funai did and that actually one of the more rare one, then the typical one I come across as that has the digital ATSC tuner, later after 2009 they removed the tuner completely.
It was worth fixing as they have a good processor despite lackluster built quality and the dvd recorder is great for transfers as S video input works on pretty much any media throw into it and picture quality is great better then some of the high end dvd recorders I used back in the day. Plus my professional TBC works well with it, of course using other hi8 to SVHS decks for playback. So reason people pay still $200 plus for them. Yes sucks to work on them. Parts are easy to find as Toshiba, Magnavox and Funai were all the same rebadged and made from 2008 to late 2016 was the last one Funai made. They had a long production run on these.
They worth refurbishing as Usually get about $200 plus for them and usually sell in 1 to 3 days from listing them. Plus kept a couple I use for myself.
I was given one of these but it is sylvania, weired that the case also has the groove on the top metal piece and the one I have also has that fan on the back. Thing is super heavy too. I am surprised how heavy the thing is for being a funai machine.
I did tear down one of these that had a failing encoder switch. Your right it is not designed to be easily serviced. It does need fully stripping down and the carriage and PCB removed in one part. Then partially separating the carriage from the PCB just enough to give access to the rotary encoder switch. I managed to resolve with WD40 and plenty of rotating to make sure the connections were worked.. Assuring the encoder was in the reset position before reassembly.
It does look as if the encoder can be desoldered and removed from the PCB however I you will have to be mindful of the heat transfer into a plastic switch.
WD-40 is going to ruin that switch! I've been refurbish I and selling these. If I was you if get that off the switch, get a fiberglas pen, some plastic safe contact cleaner (or running alcohol or deoxit), and put some dielectric grease in it.
Hi I have a JVC VCR when I insert a tape it ejects and powers off, it was working before sometimes it makes a noise ejects and powers off, could the mode switch need cleaning
Yes
I've had to repair these machines and yes they are a pain in the Arse in many different ways ...... usually the drive clutch for the take up reel wears slips to much or the belt gets loose , makes it a pain to replace , usually resulting in the take up reel not pulling taught or not at all on the tape eventually telling the machine that there is a problem, or the control switches getting dirty .. and oh my hell if one the end tape sensors go.. what a nightmare that is to repair .... But when they do work they do a great job... Its so sad that we want to recycle and keep things working for longer , but we make everything disposable and non repairable, i love to bring things back from the dead .. been doing it since the early 80's .. I'm really sick and tired of the contradictions.nowadays and the laziness of society ..
Thank you for the upload .. seen and done this many many a time !! LOL
The tuner to mainboard wire looks like it passed power from the supply to the tuner to the drum/capstan drive of the mainboard.
I just bought one of these at Goodwill for $4.99. it had some problems on the VCR side. Completely opened it up, cleaned adjusted and greased everything and sold it 12 hours later for $169.00. Mine did this same thing, I cleaned the mode selector switch, good as new.
D-VR660 I have this machine! I bought it new, in its original box, back when it was first being sold.
I was going to ask for help fixing mine (the DVD part and the VCR) but after seeing you take it apart I don't think I can manage that kind of intricate surgery without bruising or breaking something else in the process.
How do you make those sobbing emojis? :-(
This year I've bought a 2004 Thomson DTH8000 DVD recorder (also known as RCA DRC8000) in mint condition with the original remote for SEVEN dollars. Even with the highest quality setting (1 hour/DVD, more then 8Mbits/sec), there's a lot of MPEG artifacts on the picture, it's noticable even on VHS recordings. I thought I would use it for archiving VHS to DVDs, now I rather not. *BUT!*
But surprisingly it's doing all the digital signal processing (except MPEG-II encoding) AND digital Time Base Correction on any signal I send through it. There's about 2 seconds delay between the inputs and outputs, and it makes wonders with bad quality, jumping, rolling etc. video from trash condition tapes. So I just bought a rather good digital TBC for seven bucks, which I can use with my 15 years old PCI TV tuner card for digitizing VHS tapes. This card can't handle unstable sync, it drops a lot of frames and the audio goes seconds out of sync within minutes. This DVD recorder used as a TBC should fix this issue, and it has composite, S-Video and even RGB inputs!
I have Sony DVD/HDD recorder I love it and some store bought DVDs do not have copy protection it's a small few but some don't so it lets you high speed dub the whole disc to the HDD it's awesome 2008 model old now but well built and ahead of its time I think.
Yes I have the same machine. Don't loose or break the remote. I got one given to me without a remote. The remote cost me 80.00.
I have a Magnavox combo like that.The VCR quit. Put a tape in, unit shuts off after about 10 seconds. I think the tape gets caught. Am afraid to risk another tape.
Magnavox combos were never reliable or built to last. Always prone to failure, like the early model LG DVD recorders.
Intro music was fantastic.... Cool
Ah, we meet again, Funai Electric...
*_GASP!_*
Very good video. I wish I could have you repairing my Sony Video Walkman.
Those suckers sell for $200... I found one without remote for $5 a few months back.. luckily mine worked 100% minus remote. I tested the DVD quality and was better than expected.. I tested against Toast and authoring tools on my computer. Hard benchmark to beat. But yeah pretty convenient..but people want this for the HDMI upscaling . Kids run video games through it to their Hi-def tv's. Revealing video thanks for sharing. I did pop the top off but just to clean out a few dust bunnies and clean the heads up ect.
You say you got out of the electronics repair business in 2003. What did you for work after that?
Telephone company. Ya, ya I can here it now, nobody has phones. Well we do mostly fiber optic and DSL work now, and of course cable TV delivered via DSL and fiber.
I have a very silmar machine and it just Died on me yesterday it won't power up I'm devastated 😭
Awesome work really enjoy your video's
This thing looks terrible inside... and I've got one just like it! But hell, at least it's got a separate loading motor, which is a surprise to me. Mine has about 50 hours on it, given to me by someone who just wanted their vhs tapes archived using it, so I did that in exchange for that deck. VHS playback really isn't very good but it does just barely pass minimum standards. DVD recorder quality didn't compare super well well with some other ones I have. So it sits in the stack of similar equipment, I loaned it to a friend to make transfers and it will do more, just nothing really important.
Seeing your video here makes me wonder how the dvd recorder would handle vhs transfers of poorly recorded signals ( like damaged tape and analog recordings made of poor tv reception). If I remember this thing has few control options. I want to see if it can avoid various glitches when digitizing. If so maybe i'll let it run my moldy tapes (the ones I don't care that much about, after only a minimal demoldification).
I could be wrong, but I think towards the end, Toshiba partnered with Funai on the vcr side of some of their final combo models and Panasonic on the DVD side. Ironically, Sony partnered with Toshiba on the DVD recorder of some of their final combo models. That annoys me in the industry... LG sometimes uses AU Optronics panels in their tv's while cheaper Acer's Uses LG panels in some of their monitors. Same goes for Samsung. Some of these companies build better parts, then don't use them in their own models to keep the cost down. Toshiba had some really good combos (on the ones they actually built with their parts), but but last few years combos were manufactured everyone was cutting costs, and it showed. Toshiba was one of the last to stick it out until the very end with ATSC tuners and HDMI support for VHS at least.
DVD side in Toshiba was made by Funai, actually. Funai designed the whole machine.
Yes cause no one else was manufacturing combo units anymore besides Funai then.
This wasn't made by Toshiba, this was built by Funai. Worst VCRs ever made! Most of these Funai VCRs with this chassis were not built to be repaired. But there was some of these chassis that used ribbon cables instead of wires being soldered on the circuit board, they were only found in some Funai built stand alone VCRs. But in Funai built VCR/DVD combos, (Magnavox, Sylvania, Emerson, Sanyo, Newer Toshibas) they've always used the chassis that's soldered to the circuit board. BUT you can still clean the mode switch and replace the belt. You didn't see them but there are 2 screws on the circuit board that need to come out. That won't completely remove the board but you will have access to the capstan belt and mode switch. If you want to clean the mode switch on it, you have to flip the board/chassis back as if you were going to put it back in its cabinet. That will let you hold the front part of the mechanism and you can easily clean the mode switch. I've done that with my Toshiba VCR/DVD combo and now it works perfectly.
What's your opinion with Orion? Before 2008, all Toshiba DVD/VCR combos were made by Orion.
Found those two screws after watching the video and yes one can access the belt and mode switch after doing that. I would like to clean the mode switch but am not sure how to proceed with doing that. I presume that the switch doesn't need to be unsoldered to clean it....is that correct? I am also wondering how one goes about opening the mode switch to reveal the contents to be cleaned and also how to make sure once the switch is re-assembled how to make sure it is aligned correctly with the other components it connects too. Any information on that subject would be most appreciated. Thanks!
Actually very few Toshiba VCR/DVD combo models were made by LG and Samsung.
Thank You, Old man that good music intro in beginning, and good repair job
PS. My Magnavox won't play a DVD with the cover off.
The VCR at the left looks the same as Funai VCRs out there, and alas, Toshiba chooses the Funai VCR Mechanism to the point they don't want to service them anymore, although the Prerecorded VHS is discontinued in 2008 due to an obsolete.
One I see the Fellow YT User Spats Bear made the video of "Funai.....," whenever the Chinese made VCRs and DVDs had failed, he will smash them thing up and end them.
The whole machine was designed and made by Funai, actually.
LG DVD-VHS combos are just as bad - except the issue is not so much with the VCR, but the DVD recorder drive - these often fail without warning, and cost more than the whole unit is worth to replace.
Been there, done that. Never again. Life is too short.
The LG and JVC DVD VHS recorder like this with the digital tuner is actually much easier to work on as you just need to unplug audio/control head remove 6 transport screw and whole deck lift out without having to take the whole thing apart.
The LG JVC which is actually made by LG they are worst as had ones where the processor fails and the VHS deck is pure crap for the most part. The Funai are at least useable once you fix the mode gear issue. The LG transport like to crinkle tapes as lack of back tension and poor brake design.
Yes your right the DVD drive fails without warning is a huge issue with the LG JVC units come across. They throw out a region error cannot be played back on recordable media when they fail usually and laser drivers and spindle motor fail on them often. The Funai really don’t have that issue unless you put tons of hours on them, then Eventually it will need a new laser.
I have a JVC MV100B pretty much no hours on it, drive fail already on it and get region error when trying any DVD -R in it and only literally only 4 hours on it total. Yes LG made it.
My grandad has next model up. His machine won't copy from a VHS tape to DVD it well tell you to put a VHS tape in even though there is one in the machine and try to copy from DVD to a VHS tape it will say put a DVD in the drive. Very unusual problem. And the loading motor for VCR is goning to die soon because it's very noisy. The last VCR/DVD recorder was sanyo branded and it was cosmetically different and it was made up till DVD/VCR players were discontinued.
The dvd player on this unit, no it will not play the whole dvd without the user witnessing that the dvd will crash. You can simply put a dvd into the drive of this unit, and witness that dvd does not play fine in the unit. The dvd laser has to be tuned up.
Surprised that was a 4 motor VCR chassis.
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I thinking it is 4 because the capstan motor is dead, yet the loading mechanism was working and the motor that appears to be eject mechanism related did not appear to be spinning during the threading of the tape. Also that at 5:10 he seemed to indicate 2 separate load motors. But I am not familiar with this exact mechanism and don't see much room for that 4th motor to be honest.
At 27:00, could you explain how to free, disconnect, reconnect, the three ribbon cables of the DVD unit. The one at the NE corner is « trivial » but I can’t figure out yet how to do the three others.
SOLUTION: just pull on it, no release mechanism. Push it to reconnect.
Found it in another one of your video at 28:20 ua-cam.com/video/ClMkVLXmgdc/v-deo.htmlsi=wNXtK2o2tMzZn5w1
It really is a sin what they charge for people to buy these machines! The best long-lasting VCRs I have ever owned were the Panasonic pv-1100, PV1200 and Toshiba DX-800/ DX-7!
I have a NV-8600, the European version of the PV-1200. What a beast! Manufactured in 1979 and still going...
I looked it up, almost the same configuration where the tuners are different NTSC vs PAL and RCA jacks Vs BNC, the only thing i didnt see was the tracking and speed control! IDK if I had a rare problem with the PV1200 as the tracking control center position changed randomly, I think my parents brought it in and they said the alignment was good and they couldn't find anything wrong with the tracking control circuit as it randomly shifted with each play and power up and down, even on the same tape which the machine recorded itself!
PS my parents didn't want me to touch it even though it was after I obtained my associates degree in Consumer Electronics Servicing!
The VCRs which I thought was a Joke were Fisher FVH-515 which they even made the same one for under Radio Shack's Realistic Name both had problems with the motor control chips that kept burning out and last but not least VCR Joke was Sharp's "MyVideo" VHS with cheap camera which we referred to it as Fisher Price Toys!
R H The NV-8600-E/B is a single-speed machine so there's no SP-LP switch. My 8600-EM has a AUTO-NTSC switch next to the tracking knob, as it's the multi system version. Fisher was bought by Sanyo in 1975 so everything Fisher-branded was made by Sanyo.
SVT World haha that is a swedish channel. Nice video anyway Dave!
Hey a dvd recorder with inputs, that's usable :-D.
Hmm capstan/supply/mode sw/driver chip, ignore the vcr side.
Yup, the DVD recorder works, that is all that matters to me.
Be thankful it's not LG - their DVD recorder combos are junk.
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The DVD recorders are good-just the VCR is a cheap design-which r now dime a dozen. I swear by Toshiba-their laptops last forever unlike Hp and Dell.
Are these VCR mechanisms even worth fixing? Very cheaply made...
No they are not worth fixing, and that is why I didn't put that much effort into it.
That VDT625 you fixed recently is still going strong I guess...
Adilson 🙏🙏
We had Toshiba DVD recorders each , we had them for just over a year .
They both shut down after that , the power supply failed permanently !
Toshiba refused to do spares after they sold them !
This is what they think of their goods ?
Yeah buy our crap & don't come back for more .
This is what they want , A BAD REPUTATION !
I have had good luck with my DR430 recorder. I have 2 of them and they are heavily used as I use them as archive recorders.
It is shame that funai made machine that horrible just to let some people now that funai owns Toshiba, Emerson, Sanyo, Sylvania, symphonic, Magnavox, Phillips, Hitachi, and more
Made by Funai...
i have scraped more of those things then i can count over the years they are crap
Funai?Symphonic, lol, many hours on hold trying to get parts, some times on speaker phone 2 to 3 hours. GARBAGE. Early 90's. That being said, Sony sucked in the 70's. 6 months wait for a thermistor. Could not cross reference.