Channel Dash; Scharnhorst and Gneisenau Run the British Blockade - Animated
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- Operation Cerberus - the Battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau attempt to make a surprise dash up the English Channel to return to Germany.
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It’s hard to imagine all of this happened while I’m eating chips lying on the couch, doing the same “wake up, go to work, sleep “ routine. It’s easy to romanticize it until you’re on the receiving end of the 12 inch guns.
*When I'm having a tot of Whisky & Cigar*
I’m eating my favorite mass produced cookie, in my computer room, on my smart phone. Blows my mind lol
I’m eating eggs n rice
The Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were armed with 283 mm (11.1 in) main guns not 12 inch.
What kind of chips?
I think once the enemy has started shooting at you, it's okay to break radio silence.
The radio silence was because we had used similar scenarios with the Luftwaffe to crack the enigma daily code changes. It was nothing to do with actual radio silence. The two pilots were the Squadron Commander and the base Commander of Kenley, Group Capt F.V. Beamish , so not exactly beginners.
@@bobcornford3637 The fact that they didn't broadcast back to their base about seeing a huge enemy fleet seems even more suspicious to me (if I was German). I agree Yora, damn intel protocol, I have all the intel you need, "There's a damn huge enemy fleet steaming up the channel, HELP!".
@@mikeclarke952 It didn't matter how suspicious the Germans were, it was to prevent their breaking our codes as a result of the report. German 15th army was reading much of our signal traffic, and would become very proficient.
@Dennis Ynborg DAMM ! quite right
@@mikeclarke952 “You want confirmation? There’s your confirmation.” From T. T. T.
This simple animation helps to clear away the fog of war. Well done.
No room for fancy spectacle when you try to communicate complex information.
No Fog/tgf/tgm
No fog for everyone's!
Two accounts with two first names doing some sort of scam?
The Gneisenau didn't seem to be that sure which direction to take after leaving the dry-dock. Like it was sneaking out.
You have no idea what fog of war means pls educate yourself
My great-uncle was a sailor on the Prinz Eugen when this operation happened. Sadly I only found out after his death, would have been very interesting to get some first hand information.
His brother, my other great-uncle, was sunk in the U 656 in spring of 1942, age 22.
my condolences....
you have my respect but you can queue the “sO tHeY wErE nAzIs?” replies which are incredibly disrespectful
That’s so interesting!
Thanks for your thoughts...for me it's more like history, more distant and quite interesting. Think for my grandmother it was far from that, she was 15 years old when her brother died, never seemed to let him go.
A few years after her death I found out about the story of U 656, made contact with a group of Great Lake divers who were then on a mission to find the submarine as it's supposed to lie in shallow waters near the New Foundland coast.
You can even google the sinking of it , it's bombardement is fotodocumented...which then again is a strange feeling, seeing pictures of the moment a relative is dying...
War sucks!
@@drytishuuz so they were the National Army of Z International Soldier?
AWACS Long Caster no no no, people just think automatically that they are nazis if they were in germany side during the war. Remember then only a few of german people WANTED to help their country, and gladly went in the war. However some others that didn’t and were forced to join, yeah they still were considered Nazis, but i’m not so sure they felt pride in it.
My dad was on the Scharnhorst when this took place. He was 23 years old and told the story several times, about how all the torpedoes missed. But he never forgot the feeling, when you saw those "eels" slithering towards the ship and praying that they miss, while the hair stands up in your neck and your almost shitting your pants.....
Your father was a good man...
This was definitely an embarrassing blockade defence on our part, the weather with low visibility clouds and the evasive manoeuvres by the German ships definitely played a hand in your dads safe return to port, I’m happy to finally see our two countries working together for future ventures rather then fighting one another 😁
@@Wolfsong27FlyHalfFullHeart Agreed! It should have been that way always. One History, Race and Ancestry. Only divided by some water.
Lucky #100
@@carlheinz6699 I dont want to look like a racist j&rk, but approc 20% of the german population is not germanic and nearly 30% in GB is doesnt have any EU heritage now, maybe its the same in France, lots of blacks and arabs and this all happened within 1 century...
"The final decision on whether to commit to the attack has been left to Esmund. He chooses to go."
I've rewatched this video half a dozen times usually weeks apart, and I tear up at this moment every time.
He knew, his crew knew, the entire flight knew. The other 5 crews all could have turned away and risked discipline. But they didn't.
Bravery is insufficient to describe that level of commitment and ignorance of danger.
Little stories like that from WW2 never cease to amaze me. So many of the men knew what was at risk of they failed that many were willing to take any risk if it meant completing the mission. Like the Belgians in the Ardenne who fought to the death against the entire German army to try and hold them back just a few extra hours while their government prepared and the Brits rallied. Poles who first fought to the last man trying to hold back the Germans during the invasion and later in Warsaw where even civilians fought to the last trying fo push back the Nazis while the Soviets pushed from the East. Japanese soldiers who charged with bayonets against machine guns for the defence of the home islands in places like Saipan.
@@arthas640 Well....you could call the kamikaze pilots brave as well. And in a sense they all were brave, but there is a fine line between bravery and folly. If you're a good pilot with lots of experience, it might be better to keep yourself in the game to use that experience in difficult but doable missions to come and/or pass on that knowledge instead of taking yourself out of the equation by getting yourself killed in a hopeless endeavor.
That said, in the heat of battle it's sometimes very hard to judge if the oncoming action is hopeless or doable until you're already in the midst of it 😐, so hats off to the countless souls lost in the folly of war.
@@arthas640 Japanese bayonet charges were more out of fanaticism and brainwashing than any defense of home islands considering Saipan was just another colonial acquisition of their imperialist government. There is no heroism in the IJA.
They knew the risks, knew they would likely not come back. They went anyway.
Guts.
@@andro7862 there is no discussion that the japanese fought the most bravely. Calling it "fanaticism" or "heroism" is a question of point of view
9:05 One thing I love about these videos is there's always a 'that one guy'
Excellent video, I just always assumed the Germans slipped thru the Channel while the English were sleeping. Had no clue there was so much action and close calls.
Glad you liked it!
the British don't like talking about it very much
Marc Felton reported that several bristish tactical bomber squadrons circled a very long time around the own airport base, because they waited for the lead into attack. But, lucky choice, they landed before running out of fuel.
@@matthewwilson3651 Britain has suffered many naval defeats, yet built a tradition second to none. ...... Talking about your defeats enables you to understand the reasons, and correct them. ...... As Afghanistan has shown, America learnt nothing in the last 60 years, and has betrayed all of it's allies. ...... So, hopefully, discussing the reasons for the current debacle - which makes the British Surrender at Singapore seem a minor event - will reveal why the United States has a President who is clearly a geriatric, and could'nt lead a nation out of a wet paper bag without tripping over the puppet strings from his communist masters
@@zen4men I can not disagree with any thing you have said
6:03 Genius!
I am always amazed at the sophistication of electronic warfare tactics from almost 80 years ago.
"Ghen-eye-us!"
The weather played a huge part in the successful dash. I cant imagine what it was like flying about in those conditions ..... with so many aircraft in the clouds and mist
There were several CFIT (controlled flight into terrain) incidents on the part of British bombers... although I suppose it should be technically called controlled flight into water, given what they hit. Regardless, multiple aircraft crashed into the sea trying to get below the cloud cover.
"I cant imagine what it was like flying about in those conditions ..... with so many aircraft in the clouds and mist"
I imagine that it was a lot like..."flying about in those conditions ..... with many aircraft in the clouds and mist"...
Goes to show that even despite an insanely foolish plan, proper coordination, training and discipline can get you just about anywhere.
it's just the odds of getting there, I guess
i dont think there was anything better to do tho at least from this video
Scharnhorst had a 20-minute power outage caused by the first mine, the shock from its detonation locked up the rotating parts of turret 2, and it tore a hole in her side bigger than my living room floor (i think the dimensions were 6m x 13m, correct me ifi am wrong) and caused her to ship 2500 tons of water. 2nd mine hit caused a much shorter power outage and a much much smaller hole. Gneisenau did sail again, but disarmed and only able to float, with only enough fuel to get where she was going: to be sunk as a blockship. Scrapped after the war. Sad ending to my favorite ship...r.i.p. Gneisenau
Gneisenau actually sailed, under her own power from Kiel, where her forward magazine burned out, on to Gdynia, in occupied Poland. Still had two functional main turrets and all secondary turrets. Her main armament was then removed in Poland.
This entire operation could be such a great movie
As long as hollywood are not involved.
Yeah, it would be very difficult to pull off though since the protagonists would realistically have to be the germans and most people only think of the nazis and the holocaust.
@@chonksstonks1820 I mean Hollywood could easily do it. Except you will get 10 min of Channel dash, then 75 min of the destruction of scharnhorst.
Hollywood style
I agree
Scharnhorst was such a beautiful ship
Gneisenau 😭😪😥😢😰
@@TTTT-oc4eb Both of them were absolutely stunning, especially with that low water line and upswept bow.
😢
She was, went out fighting.
Expecting bombers to hit a ship on the move was wildly optimistic on the part of the British given how inaccurate their bombing was at this point in the war.
And in low visibility/ poor weather to boot. While the ship crews definitely displayed great skill at evading those torpedo salvos, the inclement weather was probably the deciding factor
@Great White sitting war ships though, not AA spiked iron hills sailing at full steam while in bad weather
"Expecting bombers to hit a ship on the move was wildly optimistic on the part of the British given how inaccurate their bombing was at this point in the war"
yeah because the British had never heard of dive-bombers or torpedo-bombers
drop enough bombs and you'll hit a lone swimmer
It was not discovered before 1942 that high altitude plane bombing ships is ineffective, only after the divebombing was totally introduced... Very strange is this fact due to aviation development stage in 30's already had been sufficient for training different bombing styles, and the navy had targets in abundance any day...
Cerberus was a great name for this op, the three headed bull mastiff that guarded the gates of the Underworld.
Good doggy
So happy to have stumbled upon this excellent channel. That's my isolation sorted...
Well that turned out to be longer than expected
@@sdprz7893 lol oof
Extremely interesting, well presented, thank you
You're very welcome
He forgot to say at the end that Prinz Eugen would be surrendered to the British at the end of the war and then given to the United States as a war trophy christened the USS Prinz Eugen and used in nuclear testing
Lol that's awesome. The usa took their war trophy, the pride of the German navy, and blew it up.
That is a bitch slap if i ever heard one
@@kyle18934 To be fair, basically the second they let the German engineers off of Prinz Eugen, it's boiler basically (not literally but almost) blew itself up, because, well, sanity (or common sense) was not involved in the making of the high-pressure boiler. The US then towed her back to port, took apart the boiler, studied it, learned from it, despite everything being horribly wrong and made from the wrong materials and stuff, and was able to build newer, even higher pressure boilers from the knowledge they gained.
Only the US and Germany used High Pressure steam during the war. The US used 600psi steam boilers, Germany used 1000psi steam boilers in Prinz Eugen (note that they specifically designed the boiler to *not* use the alloys that would withstand the higher temp/pressure steam, which is extremely corrosive, because during wartime the access to those materials would be limited, while the US did, so it was pure insanity), and then with the knowledge gained from Prinz Eugen, the US built 1200psi engines.
Crazy stuff.
@@chemputer wow 1200 lbs of steam pressure from 600, that's a big jump!
Also all of its mechanics were not usa standard, so it would be difficult to get tools for it in surplus.
That's crazy that they would use non alloy materiel, but it makes sense
@@kyle18934 I highly recommend the channel Drachinifel if you have any interest in Naval history, battles, engineering, etc.
He does a weekly Q&A podcast of sorts, called The Drydock, and this week he covered the German boilers in one of the questions.
ua-cam.com/video/34tBc0VCraA/v-deo.html#t=16m18s
Just in case that link doesn't work right (it should start at the right time, but may not), the relevant question starts at 16:18, and the answer ends around 25:28.
It's well worth the watch, he explains it *way* better than I ever could, and he's got that dry sarcastic British humor.
He's got a bunch of "5 minute guides" on all sorts of ships, mostly WWI/WWII, but also some older ones too, he originally started out with robo voice videos, then transitioned to his voice (and is redoing the older ones in human voice), which is much better. He also does these specials, where he covers something more in depth, like the Battle of Samar, which is literally the most badass last stand in history, ever. It was a small force of a bunch of destroyers, destroyer escorts and escort carriers taking on a massive Japanese force of Battleships, cruisers, and destroyers, including Yamato herself.
ua-cam.com/video/4AdcvDiA3lE/v-deo.html (on a side note, I would love for this channel to cover that battle too) If you've never heard of it, I strongly suggest watching that, because he explains it so well and it's just such an epic display of extreme bravery and skill by all the sailors involved.
Most of those specials are the longer, more interesting videos, and they're in this playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLMK9a-vDE5zFh7itlWUQVFOgKN2-HfFl7.html
@@kyle18934 You should also know that the USA scarified the American Battleships Arkansas, Nevada, New York and Pennsylvania at Bikini along with the American Aircraft Carriers Independence and the Saratoga! Also 10 American Destroyers and numerous other American and Japanese ships!
Kenneth Campbell (VC) had balls of steel. my hats is off for this chap.
I remember reading about his raid in the old Ballantine book, Torpedo Bomber, by Ralph Barker.
it was the first major operational debut of fw190。it proved far superior to spit5s。there were stories of german pilots lowering their landing gears to slow down in order to attack slow swordfishes
I heard that too about lowering landing gear. Must have been a crazy sight
Adolf Gallant was tasked with securing the safe crossing, so it was successful overall. Please pronounce of the cruiser name with the stress on the last syllable: EuGEN!
Anna Tamparow Who gives a shit about pronouncing a krout ships name correctly? Fucking lamer.
Proved superior for like, a month, before the spits were upgraded and they were once more outclassed lmao.
@@annatamparow4917 says the guy who calls Adolf GALLAND as gallant lol
Great job, imo.
All elments help the overall effect.
Your steady, calm voice, the music (not too loud or dominating...but very ominous) and the graphics are great.
And - of course - all the details are just fascinating. These are my favourite part.
Thanks you for all your efforts on your videos.
This was some gripping infographics, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole channel run. Seriously well done!
Really hoped these beautiful ships would make it home.
I love these videos man, the vidualization really makes the scope of some of these operations really more spectacular then just reading and not having a way to see certain things.
Thank you
Love your channel. Makes history even more fun. Honestly you think you know things already but end up learning new things is always great.
TOR, your work is to be commended and has all the elements of a large budget documentary without the unnecessary flash and glitter. Thumbs up and please do many many more.
Your videos have that perfect blend of big history and individual human drama. I don't mind admitting that my eyes misted over for those doomed swordfish crews, and the vice admiral's magnanimous praise. I hope you will be complimented when I say that your style puts me in mind of Antony Beevor.
Thanks. It's definitely a priority in my videos to show the human element
I cannot on any level understand what would compel the commander of the Swordfish to make that attack. He had to know it was a one way ticket for all involved.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons Pride, probably.
I know we're supposed to appreciate his bravery and all that, but in my mind it was just foolish. Why waste perfectly good pilots in an attack that is certain to fail?
@@SoWhat1221 I suppose the best way to say it is the flight lead thought that any chance of success at damaging a large and dangerous target like a battleship is worth the expenditure of lives.
And if they had gotten a disabling hit that led to the loss of any of the capital ships, they would be even more legendary.
Well said
I wish that he was teaching me history in school man much love from India
I love the top down view of the battles and how you zoom in and out showing the greater picture.
You did an amazing job with this video! It is detailed with the battle and we are able to follow along easily while still being entertained!
General Adolf Galland in his book "The first and the last" writes a detailed description on the Luftwaffe operations during Cerberus. He planned the air operations.
He also mentions a reconnaissance plane that spots the fleet and informs per radio, but the RAF sent another plane to confirm the sight.
This can mean that something with the account incongruous or incomplete
Another belter dude.
Those swordfish crew were incredibly brave! Can’t image what it would of been like.
Totally exposed and terrifying. Exposed to the harsh elements as well
funny how similar that was to the US Torpedo attacks against the Japanese fleet at Midway.
If you ever get the chance, read Channel Dash and see just how brave they were. Lieutenant Commander Eugene Esmonde, what a hero, guys crawling out on the wings using life jackets to beat out fires cause by AA fire. The splash from the BIG guns were higher than the aircraft. Been 30yrs since I read it but wow.
Mr Eckes I’ll be sure to chase down a copy thanks
MR.Chickennuget 360 I believe the Americans used mainly bombs at Midway.
One of the most underated channels,very well explained videos you deserve more subs. I also suggest for you to make a video on battle of leyte gulf.
Very well made. This is truly impressive work! Thank you!
Great video! Love your work.
This is great , I'm still new to the war in the atlantic. I recently discovered my great grandfather was a submariner during ww2. Great work on these documentaries sir.
Fantastic video man! Always wondered how they acheived the Channel dash. Thanks!
Love this type of presentation. Do the follow-up Battle of North Cape next!
This channel is fantastic, glad I found you 👍🏼
Can I just say one word on this amazing bit of history and your efforts . Brilliant 🤩👍
Many thanks!
It's things like the torpedo run by Campbell and his crew (hope I spelled it right) leave me in awe of the bravery of those men. Considering that the first 3 planes pulled away he certainley would've had a pretty hood idea what would happen if he pressed on, but did so anyway
an act that probably saved a lot of lives of allied sailors
Extremely well made and documented. Thank you sir
Thank you! I learned a great lot about WWII during the lockdown.
These are professionally made documentaries!
battle of the phillipine sea or sinking of repulse and prince of wales next !
repulse and wales are so sad.. dumb commanders and air superiority mixed together
@@Zaron_Gaming I mean Force Z's alternative was to allow the Japanese landings and invasions to go unopposed, and the complete dominance of aircraft ofver naval vessels had yet to be firmly established. Unsure about this last part but I'm the British may have also been unaware of Japanese airbases in Indochina as well.
japan had leased airbase from thailand and that where their air force attacking
@@Zaron_Gaming What do you are talking about? Where there Asian ships theatening the channel? Repulse and PoW had nothing lost there.
@@hajoos.8360 .... what? tagged the wrong person. Asian ships? I said aircraft. They were sunk by air attacks
First video I've watched on this channel, and now I'm subbed!
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Excellent - detailed information skilfully presented and wonderfully delivered, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very comprehensive and informative videos. Keep up the great work.
Man, even when the German Navy manages a success it turns into a shaggy dog story. All that risk to get them back to Germany and both Battleships end up sunk within two years, with little to show for their efforts.
German Navy was doomed right from the start. no number, no great location, lack of air cover, lack of intel, no significant edge in tech.
not enough support ships
Lmao ya two years bro. Totally worth the risk.
@@bigbigmurphy that is untrue... if anyone in WW2 had technology advanced material, it damn sure was the german.
The allied had much bigger advantage in Intel and espionage. But the decisive edge over the axis was air superiority and access to raw materials
@@mortenfrosthansen84 German tech is way over blown at this point. Why? because it's a win win for both side. The German side can claim that they had the tech edge but lost due to production and material shortage. And the Allies can claim they defeated a technical giant. Just look at how both side praised Erwin Rommel after the war. Germany was not the only side with jet planes, the rocket plane was a bad idea and until this day, we still don't have any operational rocket planes in any significant service. They way they used V-1, V-2 was revolutionary but even without the war, this would have been the natural progression anyway. German army was doing great simply because the down sizing after WWI, they get to keep the best of the best from the 2nd Reich. They train everyone two to three ranks higher than their current position. I can go on and on forever but the German tech myth is boarder line propaganda.
Without being able to change the awful weather, what could the British military have done differently?
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Why were all the capital ships at Scapa Flow?
@@jokuhunaify for easier access to the Atlantic and protection against air raids i suppose
Tirpitz was docked in Norway threatening supply convoys to Russia, as well as u boats. I imagine that being more modern (Bismarck class) they were especially concerned about the potential of her breakout into the Atlantic as well so it warranted the commitment of some capital ships.
@evan one battleship in Norway and the whole British navy around the British Isles are needed to guard it?
Download an aimbot lool, noobs
Very well made, concise and to the point. Top animation and clear narration. Impressive quality, well done.
I agree
Outstanding presentation. Thank you.
Several year ago I met a lady who was a plotter at one of the coastal defence gun sites, they tracked the vessels for well over two hours, and were only given permission to fire at the last minute. their second salvo damaged the Prinze Eugen. Had the gunners been allowed to do their job all of the ships would have been severely damaged if not sunk. She was still furious about it 50 years later.
Lions led by sheep, it's a UK tradition.
I don't blame her,it was a bloody fiasco, heads should have rolled.
More videos plz! Tnank you!
Great work. Really interesting and informative and your narration is perfect. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellently put together.
Awesome video. Your channel and content is truly amazing I'm looking forward to next video
Thank you so much!
Pls do Guadalcanal or Leyte Gulf next. Loved the video and your channel, keep it up!
Another fascinating video. Good work!
Astounded By Your Clear Understanding and Ability to Repaeat it Thank You
This stuff keeps me awake at night- in a good way!
Another great video! I remember reading about this four and a half decades ago. Even though other things have come to light since then, I'm surprised you didn't mention the German' long range weather forecast and it's accuracy. Wish I could remember the name of the book... :(
Wow! Great presentation! It was almost like being there. Well done. can't wait for the next episode!
Thank you very much!
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New sub to the channel. Watched all your vids, I have to admit I watch them with my gob agape at the heroism. This particular story is new to me and I love the way you tell it. Keep going, brother.
If I were a teacher I would use your videos in class to explain the battles. Your videos are awsome
Glad you like them!
Excellent video!
Glad you liked it
Found this channel randomly, but looks really decent! Keep up good work mate!
Hey, thanks!
Brilliant video. Keep them coming. Subscribed.
Probably my favorite subscription. I love this video. Something about that line, “First Admiral in 300 years...” is astonishing to think about. So many have tried and failed. Leave it to the Germans...
Splendid
Nice video man, also relaxing music.
Very good work again dude. These are always so well done. :)
Thanks again!
So basically being on one of these German ships during this fight would boil down to;
(Angry screaming in German and swinging a flyswatter around at 400+ various aircraft and boats)
OMG thanks for directing that movie in my head lmfao *Dies*
During any surface action is more like it. For the entire war the German navy surface fleet was playing hide and seek until they were sunk. Just too small to compete with the Brits.
You have way too few subs.
You definitely deserve more
I appreciate that
@Jan-Ola Ellingsen The yamato was mostly sunk by the avengers really, hellcats just kinda buzz-buzzed around and shot the shit.
the Germans had too few subs too
I’d like some spaghetti please rather than a sandwich.
Ur videos are amazing, I previously watched Battle of River Plate which was really helpful to me
These videos are excellent! Thanks
You're very welcome!
sinking Tirpitz next please? love your ww2 videos, great work!
Sink the Tirpitz will be my next video!
@@TheOperationsRoom excelent, Sir!
The Channel was so heavily mined between Dover and Calais the British did,nt think Germany would risk sending capital ships through it.
The British were British and the Nazis were Nazis and that is why the 1930s and 1940s were so much fun with so many surprises and so much in the way of good times.
I really like your channel, thanks for your work.
Thanks!
Amazingly done vid.
13:18 *Gneisenau and Prinz-Eugen
There is an awesome book about this in Swedish, almost written in novel form.
Great work. Love these
Just ran across your channel and subscribed! Lots of good stuff!
Imagine being one of the crew of those old destroyers just on another gunnery exercise. Suddenly your next orders are to intercept German capital ships...
Ant against a giant
(It was a tie from what i can tell in the vid)
um, what they were there for?
the reason they were in the service in the first place?
@@touristguy87 Destroyers have relatively smaller caliber guns and are usually employed as sub hunters or escorts.
Sure there are torpedoes but that's still equivalent to taking a Humvee with a .50 mounted on it and told to engage an MBT in the open. Not to worry though because there's also an RPG in the backseat so your chances aren't too bad.
@@ramvincentpaulvictor4365 that attitude cost the US several cruisers in WW2
Its ironic how the Swordfish's incredible low speed and altitude is whst allowed it to remain almost untouchable by the Bismark's AA fire.
The AA-shells went through the cotton wings without to explode. The major aspect for losing the Bismarck was the detachment of Prinz Eugen, a typical mistake (by the coward Lütjens) disregarding common squadron tactics. In a crossfire of 2 ships the swordfishs would have been lost. And in case of a fatal torpedo hit, Prinz Eugen could have towed Bismarck home to Brest.
It's not so much ironic. If you read Friedman you will see there were fundamental problems with the German Battleship AA setup. Some lessons were applied to Tirpitz, but still not great. Unfortunately there is a great misapprehension that everything German was better than anything British. When you research more, you find this is often untrue.
@@bobcornford3637 on KBismark.com is a lot to find. The wide beam of German BBs was fine. On the other hand German turret shapes were a mess, British turret shapes much better. British radar was better, German ocular instruments were fine etcetc. Crews make a ship, crews of both nations were fine, but the Brits had in average better comanding - and flag-officers. But beside all maritime affairs politics are the main factor. Both WWs were British wars. Both WWs destroyed Europe's might, mainly the Brits lost everything, someone could lose. So the profit-taker were the US and now the cowboys dominate us all, not very clever.
Of all the nations that took part in WW2.
The USA was the only one to gain financially!
In 1933 Germany was Bankrupt when Hitler took over. By 1939 she had the most powerful military machine in the world.
Who paid for it?
Wall Street did!
This content is golden!
Another excellent video. What's in the Operations Room pipeline?
Gotta love the respect that the German Vice Admiral offers the Swordfish crews.
@Jonah Whale Thank you very much, this is stuff we never hear about.
@@irongeneral7861 you never heard about HMS Gloworm ? Epic encounter , she single handedly sank or roughed up a number of German destroyers before ramming Admiral Hipper. There is an excellent book about the encounter, the name of which escapes me.
@@michellebrown4903 That is impressive, but if I recall, that ram didn't end up going too well for the gallant Glowworm.
@@irongeneral7861 well it would ruin most people's day ramming a heavy cruiser.
@@michellebrown4903 Especially as a far smaller ship! Hahahaha, but it is quite the story regardless, thanks for sharing!
Brilliant storey great channel more content please
Nicely done, thank you. Sometimes it's better to watch than read.
I just imagine a bar scene where Prince Eugen comes into the bar where scharnhorst and the other battleship just drinking, lol
Sounds like an Azur Lane cutscene.
_Bartender: Hey, we don't want no trouble here!!!_
You should to the embassy siege next.
Love your channel, please do more of the WWll and Desert Storm battles.❤️😁🇨🇦
An excellent video. Thanks.
It would have only taken one hit good/lucky hit for it to go from a failed op for the british to a success l, such are the ficalties of war
My dad was serving as a range finder on Prinz Eugen. He told us stories about the ride in front of the RN noses. Good job they did! Proud about dad and the German Navy!
This is so interesting !
Thank for sharing his story regarding the experience on this day, I'm always amazed by the Channel Dash, what a move.
My Father was a Beaufort mid-upper air gunner in 86 Squadron, Coastal Command, at the time of the Channel Dash. He said he and some other blokes from the Squadron were on leave in a movie theater at the time when the film was stopped and someone walked up front and announced that any squadron members present had to return to their airfield immediately. An ominous indicator of coming events my Father thought. When he got back the Squadron was ordered up and vectored along the Norwegian Coast in search of the German ships. This was my Father's first squadron operation. As events panned-out they didn't find the German Convoy. Instead they ended-up off Stavanger where they watched a larger formation of FW 190s take off and spiral up to altitude before attacking them, en masse. In the running fight that followed, four of the Beauforts were shot down into the sea before the 190s eventually broke off and returned to base; probably for want of ammunition. I think I remember my Father saying they believed they got four of the 190s as well, but in the heat of battle these things are always uncertain. He said he always found it amusing how quickly air discipline broke down when the fight began as aircraft from his squadron attempted to reposition themselves in the center of the fleeing formation in an attempt to try and escape the attacking German fighters. Many in the Squadron believed they had been used as a diversion to limit the number of German fighters on station over the ships.
Outstanding Doc. 😁🇨🇦❤️
I like how both were named after Prussian Napoleonic war Generals
and Prince Eugene was a successful Franco-Austrian general of a century prior. Although he was an ally of the Brtish back then. See battle of Blenheim for example where he assisted Britain vs. Fance.
@@jmw5233 aaaand Blenheim was one of the bombers mentioned in the video. Everything comes around.
Tirpitz instituted a system whereby the standing army was 100000 men as per restrictions but those men were then "discharged" and 100000 more were trained and so on. End result was a huge army in wartime. Shrinkage I've heard it called, although Google thinks I'm looking up supermarket waste protocols.
The Luftwaffe should have been able to make the repeated air attacks on Brest too costly to continue. I guess their fighters had more important things to do in 1941.
Luftwaffe???
@@gunslingerluckytankijunky lol German Air Force. @ PEEPER57 The Luftwaffe at the time was prepping and getting into position for the attack on the Ost Front... Also there were operations against Crete Which were from 1940 to June of 41. Luftflotte 3 was in France from 1940-1944. this may help but there are better books than wiki... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftflotte_3
Most of fighter command was transferred to the Russian front. JG53 was stationed in Vannes, France near Brest, but was transferred in April 1941 to Russia. Most of the JG, or Fighter units would be operating in Russia, and scarcely in the Mediterranean with defenses in Mid-Norther France, Belgium, Denmark, Norway and Germany... so they were spread thin.
There was little that fighters could do against night bombing at that stage in the war. How are they supposed to find their targets?
Luftwaffe cold only spare 2 fighter squadrons in the west at that time, everyting else was tied in the east against the Soviets
PEEPER57 They simply had not enough active squadrons any more, thanks to that overblown clown Goering. If he reminds you of one or two world leaders, it's not coincidence!