That was great sounded alot like 759s visit to the curve, The whistle was the the Altoona Shops whistle and nobody has heard it since 1960-61. It did bring back memories of NW 611 though. Thanks for sharing this video as many others I could not attend.
Their are many cool horshoe curves but this one was the first. Dug by pick and shovel, boasted a 4 track main eventually. During its peak handled over 100 trains a day. In the steam days that had to be awesome to see. If you go up still today in many of the ravines cinders are 4 inches deep. It used to be more clear of brush than today. Also you had the mule shoe curve not far away, gone today. wether youl like the pennsy or not you have to admire the sheer might of it all that was the pennsy.
I'm the one who needs to thank you and all the people that covered this event by any means from pictures to videos! Of course it's not the same when you are about 5000 miles away but you can almost feel the steam pushin on the cylinders also sitted here!
Dale, That was amazing and what is it about steam that brings tears to grown men? Their is just something about raw horsepower when one sees steam locomotive and the kid in each of us want more of it. I have never been to that place and wished I was their to see the steam in action. Thanks to you, we have a video to which we can see and hear it. Thanks for the video and let us not forget that NS pulled this off and boy does it remind me of 1218 and 611 pounding the rails.
I remember riding up around the curve in 1947 at the age of 8 years.They needed 2 k-4's to pull the about 22-car train. PS Great video.Also the RED- ARROW was wrecked there at the time.
The heritage unit was powered down but still running for braking purposes. The wheel slip at 2:03 was when they took the power from the wheels of the heritage unit.
I now live in So Cal but raised in Narberth, 3rd station West of Philly on the "Main Line." This was in the 50s so I remeber the Broadway Ltd, Spirit of St Louis, General and of course the Aero Train. Rode it to Pittsburgh one summer school break. Gee, those were the days, & it's a shame more steam engines weren't saved.
If 765 could talk like Thomas and his Friends, she'd be saying: "I may be old, but I can show you that I've still got it in me to conquer Horseshoe Curve, even having to tow a boat anchor called a Heritage Unit." Note three things: 1. I'm 28 years old, but I grew up watching Thomas and his friends so I often wonder when I see a steam locomotive strutting her stuff what would she say if she could talk? 2. I'm glad Norfolk Southern painted 20 modern diesels in the paint schemes of railroads that are now part of Norfolk Southern. And 3. That was AWESOME!
Then I share it too... I'm not loosing one video of NKP 765, but his is absolutly the best one.. last week she was downhill, now she's climbing an that's the right way!
Locomotive boiler design employed a safety factor of 4 . Most engines have at least 2 pop valves. Running engines on the grand canyon rwy we had occasion to lift both pop valves topping over apex if the engine was maxed out for the day. Boilers are hydro tested at one and a Quater over boiler pressure, its been a while I'll have to check.
You are thinking of CSX, which is anti-steam and refused to tow 734 a few miles for the WV Rails thing. NS has also been hostile to steam until 2011, they are under new management who appreciates RR history and are allowing limited numbers of steam trips (in addition to their heritage units, etc). 765 always carries an original NKP 6-chime whistle, and has a place to mount a 'guest' whistle that is changed out frequently. In this case the guest was the PRR Altoona shops whistle.
Gorgeous shots, & surprising, too. I was under the impression that NS was hostile toward having steam on their system; part of why WMSR 734 couldn't attend WV Railfest back in 2010. Btw, has 765 always had 2 whistles?
I think it is a Crosby 3-chime, not for sure on that however; it is larger than a typical locomotive whistle, I want to say it is 8 inches in diameter instead of the standard 6 inches.
absolutely amazing...was a little concerned at 2:03 when she started slipping...but excellent excellent video....hope you dont mind me sharing on facebook...
I wonder how far south I'd have to go to see a NS train, only have CSX here in NY. Horseshoe curve would be awesome to visit except regular Keystone service won't take me as far...
ATSF 3751, SP 4449, now Southern 630 and soon from what I hear Southern 4501. But it's true. the number of Steam locomotives that are running in mainline service is becoming few and far between.
That would be the pop off. When the steam reaches it's max pressure, it will release the extra steam, this keeps the boiler from exploding. But never fear, the boilers can take 4 times the pressure than the setting. EX. setting of 240lbs, ? bolier could take 960lbs. If any of the Fort Wayne people want to correct me, Please do.
Michael Ward, CSX CEO, is very foolish for not being in favor of steam and the incredible public relations it generates. CSX won't even acknowledge the history of the B&O, the nation's first RR and a component of CSX. CSX has a lot to learn from the great railroads like Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific. You'd think that Ward, a native of Baltimore, would like to showcase the B&O's history.
Now, Ward is gone and a steam hater Hunter Harrison took over his spot but he passed away and now Jim Foote is head of CSX. But they are still anti steam as far as I now. But NS is also now against public excursions but they allow #765 and #611 to use their tracks to get to places. Don't count on 765 revisiting PA any time soon, though. You can ride behind it at the CVSR in Ohio every September.
you do not need to go that far, Just take the NJT Raritan Line to either Union, Roselle Park or Boundbrook. You will catch a decent amount of NS Trains and CSX Trains there too.
That was great sounded alot like 759s visit to the curve, The whistle was the the Altoona Shops whistle and nobody has heard it since 1960-61. It did bring back memories of NW 611 though. Thanks for sharing this video as many others I could not attend.
Their are many cool horshoe curves but this one was the first. Dug by pick and shovel, boasted a 4 track main eventually. During its peak handled over 100 trains a day. In the steam days that had to be awesome to see. If you go up still today in many of the ravines cinders are 4 inches deep. It used to be more clear of brush than today. Also you had the mule shoe curve not far away, gone today. wether youl like the pennsy or not you have to admire the sheer might of it all that was the pennsy.
I read somewhere that when they approached the Curve they shut the 8100 down and let the 765 do all of the work.
I'm the one who needs to thank you and all the people that covered this event by any means from pictures to videos! Of course it's not the same when you are about 5000 miles away but you can almost feel the steam pushin on the cylinders also sitted here!
Dale,
That was amazing and what is it about steam that brings tears to grown men? Their is just something about raw horsepower when one sees steam locomotive and the kid in each of us want more of it. I have never been to that place and wished I was their to see the steam in action. Thanks to you, we have a video to which we can see and hear it. Thanks for the video and let us not forget that NS pulled this off and boy does it remind me of 1218 and 611 pounding the rails.
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing. You can hear the diesel helping just a little, but it's still an awesome show!
The Fort Wayne Railway Historical Society owns 765. They have done a great job over the years.
I love hearing 611's whistle, always one of my favorites.
I remember riding up around the curve in 1947 at the age of 8 years.They needed 2 k-4's to pull the about 22-car train. PS Great video.Also the RED- ARROW was wrecked there at the time.
So wish I went to the curve. outstanding video and thank you for posting it for those we couldn't make it.
The heritage unit was powered down but still running for braking purposes. The wheel slip at 2:03 was when they took the power from the wheels of the heritage unit.
What incredible power handling that train on her own and at such a curve. Excellent.
I now live in So Cal but raised in Narberth, 3rd station West of Philly on the "Main Line." This was in the 50s so I remeber the Broadway Ltd, Spirit of St Louis, General and of course the Aero Train. Rode it to Pittsburgh one summer school break. Gee, those were the days, & it's a shame more steam engines weren't saved.
Love the noise, and man that beast was working !!!
That Pennsy 3 chime she was wearing sounds amazing!!!
nice shot dale. im glad to see the ns guys let you live
Nickel Plate Road Heritage unit?! NICE!!!
If 765 could talk like Thomas and his Friends, she'd be saying: "I may be old, but I can show you that I've still got it in me to conquer Horseshoe Curve, even having to tow a boat anchor called a Heritage Unit." Note three things: 1. I'm 28 years old, but I grew up watching Thomas and his friends so I often wonder when I see a steam locomotive strutting her stuff what would she say if she could talk? 2. I'm glad Norfolk Southern painted 20 modern diesels in the paint schemes of railroads that are now part of Norfolk Southern. And 3. That was AWESOME!
. The max operating pressure on the 765 is 245 lbs. The first pop goes off at 247 lbs., 2nd is 249 lbs and the third goes off at 251 lbs.
WOW WOW WOW! Purely stunning.
Really wish I would have been able to go here....disappointed I didn't get to shoot it here. But thanks for sharing this outstanding video.
GREAT VIDEO!!! I saw her is Toledo Ohio with the Heritage!
Beautiful scenery.
I would have loved to had been there, but a little too far to drive! Still amazing!!!
CSX is the most anti-steam railroad out of the big 4. Notice the railroads that like steam the most tend to last longer? lol!
Then I share it too... I'm not loosing one video of NKP 765, but his is absolutly the best one.. last week she was downhill, now she's climbing an that's the right way!
Locomotive boiler design employed a safety factor of 4 . Most engines have at least 2 pop valves. Running engines on the grand canyon rwy we had occasion to lift both pop valves topping over apex if the engine was maxed out for the day. Boilers are hydro tested at one and a Quater over boiler pressure, its been a while I'll have to check.
great sound!!!
You are thinking of CSX, which is anti-steam and refused to tow 734 a few miles for the WV Rails thing. NS has also been hostile to steam until 2011, they are under new management who appreciates RR history and are allowing limited numbers of steam trips (in addition to their heritage units, etc).
765 always carries an original NKP 6-chime whistle, and has a place to mount a 'guest' whistle that is changed out frequently. In this case the guest was the PRR Altoona shops whistle.
As a rail fan it would be cool visit Bound Brook, But as a railroader. I hated working on the Lehigh Line.
My mom and I would have loved this
I was down in Altoona to see it get cooled down and it was pretty awesome
Gorgeous shots, & surprising, too. I was under the impression that NS was hostile toward having steam on their system; part of why WMSR 734 couldn't attend WV Railfest back in 2010.
Btw, has 765 always had 2 whistles?
I think it is a Crosby 3-chime, not for sure on that however; it is larger than a typical locomotive whistle, I want to say it is 8 inches in diameter instead of the standard 6 inches.
WONDERFUL video!!!
absolutely amazing...was a little concerned at 2:03 when she started slipping...but excellent excellent video....hope you dont mind me sharing on facebook...
Dale, I know NS had said Mr. Moorman was riding the cab that day. Kinda looks like him in the right hand seat of the 765. I hope so. He deserves it.
I wonder how far south I'd have to go to see a NS train, only have CSX here in NY. Horseshoe curve would be awesome to visit except regular Keystone service won't take me as far...
The Pennsylvanian will take you over Horseshoe Curve, and runs from NYC to Pittsburgh.
Awsome video, this is what it is all about, for any of us "Steam Loco fans"
Trains Magazine, November 2012, pages 80 & 81 under 'Preservation' has that story.
Sorry you lost the video, But glad to meet you guys.
That is the Altoona shop whistle.
ATSF 3751, SP 4449, now Southern 630 and soon from what I hear Southern 4501. But it's true. the number of Steam locomotives that are running in mainline service is becoming few and far between.
awesome
That steam echo thru the valley >
Try to imagine an heavy 50s freght hauled by 2 engines on the front and two helpers on the back...
great job love it!! hope theres lots of steam in the afterlife!!!!!
Thank you, That means a lot to me.
thats a nice 8 inch crosby they have on at least it sounds like a 8 inch crosby
That would be the pop off. When the steam reaches it's max pressure, it will release the extra steam, this keeps the boiler from exploding. But never fear, the boilers can take 4 times the pressure than the setting. EX. setting of 240lbs, ? bolier could take 960lbs. If any of the Fort Wayne people want to correct me, Please do.
oh yea I forgot all about those three *facepalm* I miss my favorite NKP 587 but she'll be in service up and running this year.. or next
Michael Ward, CSX CEO, is very foolish for not being in favor of steam and the incredible public relations it generates. CSX won't even acknowledge the history of the B&O, the nation's first RR and a component of CSX. CSX has a lot to learn from the great railroads like Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific. You'd think that Ward, a native of Baltimore, would like to showcase the B&O's history.
Now, Ward is gone and a steam hater Hunter Harrison took over his spot but he passed away and now Jim Foote is head of CSX. But they are still anti steam as far as I now. But NS is also now against public excursions but they allow #765 and #611 to use their tracks to get to places. Don't count on 765 revisiting PA any time soon, though. You can ride behind it at the CVSR in Ohio every September.
this is the best thing that happened in 2012!!!!!!!
Love this!!
All Steam, the 8100 was only in "idle".
Sounds familiar but at sounding at a different boiler pressure?
you do not need to go that far, Just take the NJT Raritan Line to either Union, Roselle Park or Boundbrook. You will catch a decent amount of NS Trains and CSX Trains there too.
great!!! great!!! great!!!
Can you imagine this going on in say, 1947, all day, all night?
Why is it blowing so much steam out of the back?
1:03nkp 765 enters horseshoe curve
What whistle is on the 765??? N&W 611 (the best steam whistle ever)?
I believe it is a Wabash whistle
I think I can, I think I can.... :)
Awesome
No Worries, it's like the Road foreman said, If you act like you have sense, All is cool. It was clear you had no problem. Hope all is well.
so. lucky!
thank god
Nice!
EPIC!!!!!
I don't mind at all.
oh wait another question, who does 765 belong to now?