I had never known the BIOS could be configured from IBM Basic. It's far less obvious command-wise than configuring UEFI from it's command shell (or other hardware setup shells like OpenFirmware and Petitboot) but probably less typing (UEFI commands, especially device paths, can become quite involved).
Hi, man. "And if you’re interested in seeing something specific let me know." I'm writing a PC emulator, and a little confused about behavior of NEC 765 in case of no drive attached. Can you please disconnect all drives from controller (the controller itself should stay in slot) and try to boot and press F1? I'm wondering will it hang or post some error / switch to BASIC. The BIOS waits an error after seek command, but according to schematics there will be no errors (controller just will never get TRK00 signal), so I think it should hang. Thank you.
How cool! I never knew there was an XT 286. Of course I knew of the AT, but not this! This really makes me want to get my 5160 up and running though ;)
It was the first IBM I picked up when I started retro collecting at the end of last year.... did not realise it is a pretty rare item. now proud owner of the entire IBM 5xx collection.
@@RetroSpector78 Nice!!! I was always a PC guy, and somehow I started collecting a bunch of retro Apple/Mac stuff. I have my aunt's old 5160 which isn't running :/ No display output or beeps or anything. It will get power and the hard drive spins up, but that's about it. It's on my list of projects. I actually kind of have my heart set on another PS/2 system at the moment. I have some of my stuff on my channel, but I really need to start documenting more of it. And I need to document it more properly instead of just spur-of-the-moment LOL
8:37 That "PGA chip" copyrighted in 1985 does not mean that the card was manufactured in 1985. As far as I can see, most ICs on that board were manufactured in mid 1988. So the card must be younger than that.
Fascinating, my 5162 actually says "IBM Personal Computer XT/286" on the front plaque. Maybe your case cover got switched for an 5160's one earlier in its life?
a 'stealth' pc, to hide the upgrade to xt286 from the boss, and from thieves. i used an old, beat-up xt clone case for my desktop at work. a price sticker for $4.95 from goodwill was on the case. in it's last 'disguise', it housed an early pentium mobo, then-new & rocket-fast at the time. the boss would often say 'we've got to get you a newer, faster pc'. 'no thanks boss, let's be frugal. the old girl still has a few electrons left in her'. good times ... please take care & stay safe.
Well gosh. I had a similar XT-286 motherboard to test the summer last year. Never got any drives working on it, and then I had no more time to examine it. Had I known to start with that it could have been configured by BASIC just like that it would have been useful, but to know that there is actually an application made for that it'd been great. However, I think I might that find updated knowledge useful again when I'll just find some time to test my IBM AT motherboard... In case you know some nice persistent site from where that GSETUP_BASIC application can be downloaded, it could have been a nice one to have linked in the description. I found a copy of it myself by Google conjurations already, but regardless.
Okay, it works, but if you want full experience with old games, install an old sound card, too, for example: SoundBlaster. 🔊 And I don't know what's currently on the hard drive, but MS DOS would be the best, maybe with some memory upgrade, too. 😉
Well 2 problems with that :) 1. I did not have a floppy disk :) it was my first retro computer and I just started with this crazy hobby :) I wanted to get the hard drive up and running and boot from it. 2. This is Cassette Basic and does not support writing / reading from disks, only cassettes via the IBM cassette interface, something I have never seen in the wild.
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Interesting. Didn't even knew that you could configure IBM machines with BASIC.
I love the noise of the hard disk drive and of the floppy drives.
Yeah .. there are easier ways (using the setup disk as it will always be able to boot from a floppy, but the basic thing is kinda cool :)
I had never known the BIOS could be configured from IBM Basic. It's far less obvious command-wise than configuring UEFI from it's command shell (or other hardware setup shells like OpenFirmware and Petitboot) but probably less typing (UEFI commands, especially device paths, can become quite involved).
1:40 Those DRAM ICs are not "soldered right onto the board", they are mounted in sockets.
I had the little brother of that monitor, G50 back in the day :)
Hi, man.
"And if you’re interested in seeing something specific let me know."
I'm writing a PC emulator, and a little confused about behavior of NEC 765 in case of no drive attached.
Can you please disconnect all drives from controller (the controller itself should stay in slot) and try to boot and press F1?
I'm wondering will it hang or post some error / switch to BASIC.
The BIOS waits an error after seek command, but according to schematics there will be no errors (controller just will never get TRK00 signal), so I think it should hang.
Thank you.
My binge-watch begins here.
MarkTheMorose enjoy :) quality should improve as each video goes by :)
How cool! I never knew there was an XT 286. Of course I knew of the AT, but not this! This really makes me want to get my 5160 up and running though ;)
It was the first IBM I picked up when I started retro collecting at the end of last year.... did not realise it is a pretty rare item. now proud owner of the entire IBM 5xx collection.
@@RetroSpector78 Nice!!! I was always a PC guy, and somehow I started collecting a bunch of retro Apple/Mac stuff. I have my aunt's old 5160 which isn't running :/ No display output or beeps or anything. It will get power and the hard drive spins up, but that's about it. It's on my list of projects. I actually kind of have my heart set on another PS/2 system at the moment. I have some of my stuff on my channel, but I really need to start documenting more of it. And I need to document it more properly instead of just spur-of-the-moment LOL
@@BollingHolt Have you tried removing all the cards? One could be holding it in reset.
this sort of pc was my first pc way back then
8:37 That "PGA chip" copyrighted in 1985 does not mean that the card was manufactured in 1985. As far as I can see, most ICs on that board were manufactured in mid 1988. So the card must be younger than that.
Fascinating, my 5162 actually says "IBM Personal Computer XT/286" on the front plaque. Maybe your case cover got switched for an 5160's one earlier in its life?
It's your BIOS. Original BIOS don't say anything except RAM testing and errors (if any). Just like in video.
@@vic3dexe1 I don't understand... What does the BIOS have to do with the metal plaque on the front of the case?
@@kpanic23 oh, sorry, didn't read it carefully. I thought it says it on the screen.
a 'stealth' pc, to hide the upgrade to xt286 from the boss, and from thieves. i used an old, beat-up xt clone case for my desktop at work. a price sticker for $4.95 from goodwill was on the case. in it's last 'disguise', it housed an early pentium mobo, then-new & rocket-fast at the time. the boss would often say 'we've got to get you a newer, faster pc'. 'no thanks boss, let's be frugal. the old girl still has a few electrons left in her'. good times ... please take care & stay safe.
Indeed, he has the wrong case cover, the chassis is ok (the backplate states 5162) but the cover should say same as yours.
Well gosh. I had a similar XT-286 motherboard to test the summer last year. Never got any drives working on it, and then I had no more time to examine it. Had I known to start with that it could have been configured by BASIC just like that it would have been useful, but to know that there is actually an application made for that it'd been great. However, I think I might that find updated knowledge useful again when I'll just find some time to test my IBM AT motherboard...
In case you know some nice persistent site from where that GSETUP_BASIC application can be downloaded, it could have been a nice one to have linked in the description. I found a copy of it myself by Google conjurations already, but regardless.
minuszerodegrees has a copy of gsetup I think on the 5162 or 5170 section.
6:56 That VGA card cannot be original for this machine. VGA came in 1987, and didn't become standard until the 1990s.
Okay, it works, but if you want full experience with old games, install an old sound card, too, for example: SoundBlaster. 🔊 And I don't know what's currently on the hard drive, but MS DOS would be the best, maybe with some memory upgrade, too. 😉
QUestion: into IBM basic program, you are not allowed to load the entire program from a floppy disk, instead of that had to keying the whole thing???
Well 2 problems with that :)
1. I did not have a floppy disk :) it was my first retro computer and I just started with this crazy hobby :) I wanted to get the hard drive up and running and boot from it.
2. This is Cassette Basic and does not support writing / reading from disks, only cassettes via the IBM cassette interface, something I have never seen in the wild.
Great video! Are you planning on adding any expansion cards to the machine?
coneypylon yes. Got video planned talking about sound, memory, storage (sd cards, scsi, zip drives). Also a comparison with the IBM AT 5170 286
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you have a link for the program?