I came to understand my privilege when we were missing something for dinner late one night and I said to my lovely wife... "Hey. Why don't you just run to the store and grab some and I'll finish dinner." ...and she was like..."At night? Uhhhh....no" and proceeded to explain dark parking lots to me and the difference between being me, a large man, and being her, a petite woman. And then it clicked. All the things I don't have to worry about because I'm a boy. And then I realized all the things I don't have to worry about because I'm white. And then I realized all the things I don't have to worry about because I'm straight. The list is long of things I don't have to worry about and all the reasons I don't have to worry about them.
@@IridescentW You are correct, not all men are large. But with near zero exceptions, all men represent a potential threat to almost every woman. The fact that men are statistically more likely to be victim of a violent crime, has the opposite implication to what you're suggesting. It is merely a consequence of the fact that men are exponentially more likely to be instigate violence in general than women are. The fact that men like to fight more, and someone loses that fight, is not grounds for sympathy toward men.
@@Elevenwarriors1234A) as I said, at this time, I had not yet considered how this might be dangerous for her. B) I do the cooking in my family, and I was in the middle of preparing the meal.
"No one is saying your are racist".... except the guest the other day which Jon did zero pushback when she said a poor white person is on equal footing as the KKK for racism. Also would like them to discuss what would actually help. Seems the other day they were asking that but then refusing to discuss the solutions and instead focusing on the past.
Racism seems to be the label used to silence less privileged poor white people so they don’t get a seat at the table. I’d wager rich white people are probably more racist collectively than poor. Im sure there are racists in each and all groups of all people but I like to think that the majority of people in groups aren’t racist. Hopefully that isn’t me being naive.
>>"No one is saying your are racist".... except the guest the other day which Jon did zero pushback when she said a poor white person is on equal footing as the KKK for racism.
Dave Chapelle had a great story in "The Bird Revalation" about how he worked a comedy club owned by some gangsters. They paid him $20,000 in cash. He stuffed it all into his backpack and got on the subway at 3 am. He said he was literally fearing for his life because if anybody on that train knew what he had in that backpack, they wouldn't hesitate to kill him for it. Then he says, "Now imagine walking around with a pussy in your pants 24/7..." :-o
That was a great bit that helps men have empathy for women without starting from the premise that men are somehow shitty. Having empathy for your fellow human of any race/gender is good, and can be done without antagonizing terms like "privilege" as demonstrated well by Chappelle.
This is what I love about people like Jon Stewart. The explanation. Its light at times, and serious at times, and he walks you through his thought process and opens the door WIDE for discourse. People on the right TEND TO avoid the discourse, and use volume and proximity to 'win arguments'. Debate is fine, even with an extremist - a debate is fine, if both sides leave with a little more understanding of the other. I think Jon provides that. He seeks to understand FIRST, which is so important to do...
@@iwil3293 Very well said , It reminds me of the stupid argument of White guilt for slavery. That was not a White issue, more likely, a wealth issue. The whole slave trade was an industry. For these modern day rewriters of history, I would be all to happy to point out the obvious. The people who owned slaves were the equivalent of todays mega millionaires, and billionaires. My ancestors, sadly did not measure up. More likely, my ancestors would have been the slaves. Once again, the wealthy push anything distasteful off on others , as a matter of fact. Every country had its share of slavery. In fact, slavery was brought to the colonies by wealthy British , while the fleets of ships were owned by international bankers. One can only marvel, how these crafty oligarchs spin every story, every situation to their advantage. One must give them an “A” for imagination. The internet could be used as a tool to secure freedom from these tyrants, They understand this, and this is the reason the internet is heavily censored today. The mainstream media is also heavily censored. Unfortunately, the sleeping Americans are ignorant to the vast amounts of truth that are withheld from them. Hate Speech laws are censorship. This goes much deeper than the faces we see on TV. For example, I mentioned Jared Taylor. He has been de-platformed , for speaking the truth. Our task now, is to name the tyrants by name.
I do equity work, among other things, and I've stopped using the term "privilege" because people who haven't been lucky enough to be able to go to college especially tend to struggle with the concept. It invalidates others trauma and accomplishments to tell some white guy who's drunk dad beat the shit out of him every day how privileged he is. And then if you have 6 minutes to talk to somebody and they're shut down immediately you get nowhere. Now I use a very different analogy (about having keys with doors that provide opportunity, and hidden doors, and sharing our keys because a lot of them are NOT earned) that talks about privilege without the actual word, and it makes white people go "oh, wow... okay."
Privilege is easy to define: I was a teen. I had been "gifted" a car, if I could repair it. So I got it running. The registration was expired (can't renew without a current inspection), and the inspection was expired. So, to get it legal, I needed to drive it while unregistered and uninspected to get to the inspection station, then I could do the registration after. Having just gotten it running for the first time I was excited to get it inspected so I could get it legal. I had taken my wallet out, because it was falling out while crawling around under the car. So there, I was: No license. No insurance. No inspection. And no registration. Pulled over for the expired inspection (bright tag on the windshield, he could see, registration tags are smaller). So I tell the cop my story. I give him my driver's license number, expiration, address on the license. Then the owner of the car (my dad), and his DOB and address. Everything came back as valid in the system, so he gave me a ticket for no license and insurance, and let me drive away. Take my license and insurance to City Hall within 2 weeks, and the tickets are stricken. With what I had on the side of the road, he could have towed the car or worse. I drove away. Others in that situation might not have been so "fortunate". Privilege is being given a chance to talk your way out of trouble. Privilege is them listening when you try.
@@mediabiassucks1803 We have video of Philando Castille being executed for getting his license and registration as ordered to do. Compliance gets Black people executed.
Americans of any race saying they aren’t privileged is such a joke. Not trying to say in anyway that racism and systemic issues don’t exist, however this topic is so affected by socioeconomic class not just race alone. Socioeconomic is so much more reflective on experience in life than anything.
Theres a correlations between socioeconomics and race. When you have an understanding that America was built with racism, then you wont be so dismissive
@@nottodaycolonizer you are correct, America was built with racism present but that can’t be changed. So how do we move forward? What is ideal to strive for?
@@jlaw1901 we have to address the past and quit teaching whitewashed history. It is 400 years in the making so it cant be undone over night. Im amazed that people think racism was "so long ago," yet we have individuals who was a part of civil rights, a law put in place to give non white Americans their rights to be treated equally. That is telling
@@nottodaycolonizer I agree that wasn’t long ago, it’s within 1 generation. But what I’m trying to get at is what can we actually do. What does it mean to teach white washed history and is it happening? (I’m not expressing a view just asking questions) In order to make change we need to be more specific. General phrases sound good but don’t have much actionable meaning. For instance, I can say that I want to eliminate all racism. Sounds good but what does it mean? First we have to agree on a definition of racism and then we can discuss how to eliminate racism.
As a straight black educated man born in the early 80s, that isn't liberal or conservative. Not an entertainer or a politician. Not a gangster or a feminist... Just a family man that you know works and takes care of this family that grew up in these environments and was labeled by these folks as "super predators" for being born, yet isn't a criminal, but watched as many of my peers were hunted down and lost to the streets and yet still made it through... I find it interesting, because we are rarely seen or spoken to. We are so rare that I barely know many others, but we are told that our families are our failure! Yet no one really wants to address these things. No one even talks to us. Strange huh?
They're never going to talk to you on this level. Jon Stewart, and other white public figures can't help you, or they'd done it. The best way to change minds is irl. Friendship leads to empathy, and that leads to real people making headway.
@@deadpilled2942 I think that was my point. It is part of the problem as we were virtually exterminated by both sides of the political isle and now there are conservatives that blame us for not being present, liberals that explain why without us, our women speak out while angry at us, but the few of us there are... No one lets us speak at all to address what's going on! I have 2 white neighbors my age... There are NO other black men my age in my neighborhood! Our women my age cant get married, because we were wiped out! The issue is deep! Kinda like that story Jon and his people should be familiar with... When Pharaoh kills all the boy children of a generation of the Israelites... I was raised at a time when we were told that our life expectancy was 18 dead or in jail. I'm 41 and never been to prison! So...
"We're not saying you caused this, or you're immoral..." Um, Lisa Ford on the show on white people specifically said it was every white person's fault and we are all immoral with our complicity every day. She literally said exactly what Jon Stewart says the current racial justice movement is not saying. And he agreed with her and lauded her. And this is not a new thing. Jon's absolutely right that IF the racial justice movement did not put this "you are immoral and racism is your fault" slant in its communication with whites, then the movement would not meet so much defensiveness from whites. And he's right that the racial justice movement should not be putting that slant on things because for the typical white person existing today (1) did nothing to create the systems we live under, and (2) has not done anything to knowingly perpetuate systemic racism and, in fact, often fights for racial justice in many ways (e.g., fighting for equal funding of public schools). Just dividing people by race as if that defines their group activity is also inherently racist, and part of the problem. Saying, "black people are telling you what they need to fix this," and "white people just aren't listening," are both racist statements. As just one example, most platforms of the racial justice movement are favored by Democrats and opposed by Republicans. Yet there are blacks Republicans who do NOT agree with the platforms of liberal racial justice advocates. Where do they fit in? Anyone claiming to speak for all blacks is just a liar. Anyone trying to characterize all whites is a liar. The fact that nowadays the whole dialogue surrounding racial justice refers to blacks versus whites instead of "here's what some advocate, here's where some disagree," shows we have taken a step backwards in true progress. And those who insist on framing this as if all blacks are on one side and all whites on the other (which includes racial justice advocates) are to blame.
It's nice to find someone keeping a cool head, and giving some solutions. You would think black and white Americans would get along better than most. Other than indigenous Americans, black, and white people have been in the US the longest. African Americans are more American than many other white Americans.
My reply to you is that it was NEVER the movement that put that slated but the people hearing the movement. Similar to how the Black Lives Matter said one thing and white people heard "Only black lives matter", you cannot be placing the blame on people when the recipient of the message always has an expressed desire and goal to misunderstand them. In terms of dividing people by race, it is NOT inherently racist. The reason African Americans must bond over race is because LITERALLY everything else was stripped from their ancestors BY the people who forced them to bond over race. They cannot bond over language or motherland; they don't know who those are. They were taken and stripped of all their identity BUT the color of the skin/race. They were even stripped of bonding over family through systematic rape and separation. Now, you are sitting in the privilege of telling them not to bond over the only thing they have left on which to form a community?! Your argument that they are black republicans isn't a real argument. There isn't a single thing on this earth everyone agreed with; people can't even agree atrocities are bad. HOWEVER, the problem with your whole characterization is that it isn't even true. It has never been. at least on the people wanting racial justice side, whites vs blacks. Not during Jim Crow or slavery or now. The fact you hear it as such means you are still so defensive that one cannot talk about the very real systematic differences in society between whites and blacks without you seeing it as whites VS blacks. That is a you problem. Meanwhile, the real conversation is, and always have been, society doesn't treat whites and blacks equally and we wish to change that, and that has support from all races.
@@ellissabetta5909 You saying that when BLM says "black lives matter" then "WHITE PEOPLE" hear "only black lives matter" is exactly what is wrong with the messaging and strategy for racial reform. Because you lump together ALL white people in that accusation when many of us -- including myself -- never had a problem with BLM and supported it. Also, you claim all black people bond over slavery, but some blacks immigrated to the US after slavery ended, and how does that fit in? And, as I noted, there are black republicans who apparently think the solutions are very different from what the largely liberal policies advocated by black rights groups. You claim that pointing to the existence of black republicans is not a "real argument." That's lazy and just shows it's an argument you cannot refute, so you try to dodge it. The very fact that there are black people who vote republican and oppose reparations and think black people are to blame for their own poverty, and there are white people who are much more supportive of black rights and progress than some black people, shows what a terrible strategy it is to divide everyone by blacks vs whites. As long as you keep trying to define the struggle as black vs white instead of "pro equality vs anti equality" you are going to keep screwing up the movement and hamstringing it. It's not even a question fundamentally of whether your desire to frame this as black vs white has any validity, it just does not work in practice. It's like a very honest but very unsuccessful marketing campaign. If it does not sell your product and you are going bankrupt with that crappy advertising campaign, don't stick with it! From a utilitarian perspective (i.e., go with what works and what will actually fix the problem) re-framing it in race-neutral terms is a million times better than what you are doing now.
And also, if you break something by being racist, calling the fixing of a racist system racist is so tone-deaf. If i give a boy 20 dollars and give a girl 5 because of sexist, in order to fix it and give them equal, I naturally have to give more to the girl the next round. Not because i am now sexist against boys because I am FIXING the imbalance due to the sexism I committed. Giving both 20 next round still doesn't fix the gap the sexism created. I have to give her more because I kept away what was rightfully hers. Just like with blacks and human rights. You have to fix the imbalance your racism created and that means more resources to the disadvantaged group to get them back in step.
You will find that one victimized class can victimize other victimized classes. This is how humans behave. There is only one solution - genetic engineering or fixing a special device inside every human's head to control their behavior.
@@meta5291 Nothing you said has anything to do with the violent colonization of Indigenous peoples? It’s a relevant part of this dialogue. I hope they touch on it in future episodes, as the show and writers are a great team.
@@elisabethg7956 Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect to the indigenous people's cause and your comment. I agree with you. I was just stating my observations on human behavior.
The irony of colonization can be found by comparing neighboring counties in which one was colonized and one was not. In these cases, the colonized country has a higher standard of living. Although colonization was bad of the people actually being colonized, it is helpful for their ancestors. This is because colonizers brought innovations from other cutlers to colonies. It turns out the libs are right; diversity is good.
@@Joe40001 Empathy. Empathy goes a long way to helping us better society. The poor white person would benefit from some of the things that benefit poor black people. Drug de-criminalization would help everyone of any color, but helps black people disproportionately since black people are disproportionately arrested and sentenced harsher than white people for the same drug crimes. (And neither should be being arrested or sentenced at all as long as there's no other crime going on; the war on drugs is hurting everyone.) And yet I know a lot of white people who do drugs (but have never been caught) that deny the disparity and are against reform even though that reform would directly help them too if they ever did get caught. Empathy would go a long way to helping correct this situation.
@@prettyevil6662000 where do you get your info. That is not true. I worked as a substance abuse counselor in a men's prison for several years. I had to know all of my clients crimes and history. I had many African American clients who had rap sheets a mile long for drug crimes and trafficking several pages and they would get less time than some of my white clients who had less serious crimes and a shorter criminal history or no criminal history bc they could afford attorneys while many of my addict white clients could not and were stuck with a public defender. Perfect example: I had one African American client would only got 2 years for dealing drugs and who had a very long rap sheet while a white guy who sold his bottle of pills first offense got 3 years! I had both clients at the same time! It was insane. You know why? MONEY. The African American client could afford a lawyer who cost around 10k and the white client couldn't afford one. It's all about money. The court could care less about someone's color. If you can pay up then you don't do as much time or none at all.. It's a class problem. Not a race problem. Stop watching the TV. You don't know what you're talking about. I was at ground zero for years.
im a white dude in a very homogenousely white country ( norway) and for me and most of my acquaintances, its totaly normal to get scared seeing the police beemer out on the road. and our cops arent carrying guns or nothing.
I'm white and have disdain for cops too. In my 20s a friend and I were coming back late at night from another friends. We had our 2 yr old sons asleep in the back seat. The hiway patrol pulled me over, pulled her and I out of the car, hands on the trunk, legs spread and guns pointed at us. Wouldn't tell us what was going on. We finally heard on their radio they'd caught the guy they were looking for. One finally apologized and told us we could go. Found out later a man ( we're both women ) in a red pickup truck had robbed a pizza hut. My car was a white olds toronado. WTF my view of cops changed to them being the bad guys after that. That was over 40 yrs ago. Have never trusted them since. Thank God for cell phone cameras.
I agree, my mom worked for township and one cop got tons of complaints for harassment but didn't get fired at all especially with all these complaints coming through it wasn't until he started harassing follow police that when the police in the town spoke up he then was fired. If it was any other job they been fired already because that job didn't fit that person.
One thing is privilege, one thing is morality, but I think people often forget to talk about the stupidity of racism. The sheer idiocy of thinking that, first of all, there's more than one race, and then to think that various ethnic groups would have such all encompassing characteristics so as to render them unable to function in society. And no, I'm not just talking about the complete lack of scientific evidence for stuff like this. But if we then bring a bit of the moral aspect into this: Say if we did find that one ethnic group was, for example, on average as having 1 IQ point lower than another group. Would that justify or allow the rest of society to then discriminate against that group? And more pragmatically, would it be sensible? Would it be constructive? Would it be conducive to creating a prosperous and harmonious society? Weeeellll.... Do we need to look at examples???
"Privilege is not having to add the rest of the steps to make the recipe taste good... No one is saying your life is easy because you're white. But what they're saying is you also don't have these five other things you gotta do." Exactly!
@@Wildpeonies23 I don't have much privilege but I intend to get more. I'll probably never have as much privilege as Jon Stewart but I'm going to dedicate my life to catching up to him.
Really so what steps exactly. Please let me know my privilege by the way my skin may be white but I am a Pacific Islander yeah mixed race so deal with it. I have experienced racism so don't give me any bullshit about white privilege.
And something that is not mentioned is that each generation mindset evolves. This also means, previous generation tend to be stuck in old fashioned/ outdated mindsets. For example, our government leaders should not be on the "very old" side. They will never pass laws that reflect the times. As such, it is no wonder we see very little or no progress at all. Our leaders are very very old... We need fresh meat, people that know the real struggles and/or understand those struggles and are willing to do anything to make people's lives easier.
Racism can't end unless and until we stop insisting on classifying everybody by race and treating races as monoliths rather than addressing individuals.
We gotta repair this residual damage, first. Once everyone can start at the same starting line and be, more or less, refereed with equal rulings, then we can place more weight on the individual succeeding or failing entirely by their character. Race is a big one, so is class.
@@ronaldking1054 Humanity as a whole, that seems to be the implication. We move forward as a species united by our differences or we can fight it out over the same petty differences until the quick and unceremonious end.
I would hope Jon would give him a full interview vs just a spot gabbing with his writing team. Much of this content is comedic as well as on-topic. Dr West is not a comedian as far as I know.
I heard an interesting argument by a black activist lately that made me think. He argues it shouldn't be called White Privilege and it's really black oppression. Privilege applies above and beyond the population, whereas oppression is denial of basic rights and decency. Because black Americans aren't necessarily aspiring to wholesale privilege, but equality of treatment and opportunity. I wish I remembered his name.
I 1000% agree. By calling it "privilege" it implies it's the anomaly, and it's not. The unfairness and bias sometimes experienced by black people is the anomaly, it is the thing we should focus on and fix.
Privilege means "special". Being white in a majority white nation is not special, it's normal. Those that get BETTER than normal treatment are privileged. Those that get WORSE than normal treatment are disadvantaged.
I think we're blurring the lines between people actually having it hard to people just whining about life being hard and not wanting to put any effort into it.
Outside police brutality the only statistical danger to a black person is overwhelmingly other black people. This is selling a narrative and an excuse to black youths to not hold themselves to a higher standard to escape not the bindings of “being black” but of poverty itself. Ask white Appalachia if their struggles don’t mirror the struggles of ghetto black neighborhoods. Drug addiction, drug selling and buying, violence and rape. It’s poverty not race.
Yeah, but the rich and powerful don't want that, because if the "lower" classes are united, that threatens their hold on all of the wealth and power. It's a very simple strategy, but it has worked since time immemorial and will continue to do so: divide and conquer; make the plebs hate each other, so you can count your money in peace.
Jon, run for President, talking to everyone I know, they all would vote for you in a heart beat. You have the fame, personality, logic and an amazing communication skills. It's a moment in history that I feel could be yours. Check out the likes this will get.
If I am being honest. I am finding better insight, enlightenment, information and conversation in the comments section of Jon’s last few conversations about race and topics surrounding race. I find myself not gaining anything from what Jon and his guests are saying. There is a lot of trolling and ignorance but if you don’t engage that and seek the real conversations of deference in perspective and opinion. It is quite rewarding.
The problem though is that this is a Jon Stewart show UA-cam video. The vast majority of people that would take the time out of their day to watch a discussion on racism are going to be people that agree racism is an issue. People who largely agree with eachother and people willing to discuss the matter are the minority and arent the ones creating the problem in the first place. So while it's good to have these discussions it doesnt really fix or change anything.
Agreed. “White Privilege” is the power granted by elites, to WASPy whites of the lower classes to “police” & control the “others” in society. Eventually, elites allowed the Irish, Italians, Spaniards, French, Scandinavian, Eastern Europeans, Slavs, Jews, etc. (not Muslims not Mexicans or anything mixed w/ indigenous) to be “white.” Elites don’t see color. They just see “not rich.” The top .01% are/were never accessible & are only seen now because of tv & social media. To allow for a separation of the elites from the increasingly poor majority, white privilege created a buffer zone that was absolutely taken advantage of. It was the social contract established to ensure the safe distance from the masses for fear of retribution due to the ENORMOUS wealth gap. This social contract granted a societal insurance policy of just enough comfort for whites to not get mad & to not overthrow the system/gov’t. The most important thing to note is who created white privilege & why? The .01%, the elite, the ultra-wealthy, etc. who at that time just happened to be white are to blame. Not the whites in the 99% who didn’t know any better. It has worked perfectly until now. Today, Billionaires love to show off their wealth & privileges. Allowing themselves to be seen & gloating in the faces of the less well off will be their down fall. The American mythology the elites have written/created with phrases like “self-made,” “boot straps,” the “American Dream,” “patriotism,” etc. is now exposed. What will it take for the 99% to stand up for themselves & break the chains of white supremacy because white supremacy is really just a hatred & disgust for the 99%
@@JakeFallis75 Communication step one, use STANDARD word meanings. Even if you define a term in it's non-common meaning, it still makes your statements hard to understand. Use you plane English instead of trying to be trendy. People use these non-standard words as a way to present themselves as part of the in-group. This is similar to saying, "ax" instead of "ask".
I wonder if part of the problem that people have with accepting if they have any kind of privilege isn't simply a semantic one. The way they define privilege here isn't exactly the same way that the word has been traditionally used. The word "privilege" has traditionally meant having an advantage beyond the base line of normal. Like getting a head start in a race. The way they define it here is like saying having privilege means you get to start at the starting line instead of some distance behind the starting line. So, I wonder if many people may have difficulty accepting that because it insinuates they have an advantage beyond normal when they only started at normal. Ultimately, it's basically the same thing, but that semantic difference might very well make it make sense for some people who were otherwise defensive against it. I recently had a conversation with my dad about this topic and he was very resistant to the fact that there is still inequality between white and black (and other minority groups) people. He came from a poor broken home family growing up. So did my mother. Both of my parents came from single parent homes, multiple kids, very poor. Situations that mirror a lot of black families. So they don't consider themselves as having any kind of privilege. Everything they've earned in life they feel like they worked hard for (which isn't much, they're just barely above the poverty line). I put some of this conversation into context of what this video talks about and some other information about generational wealth an inequality and how that transcends generations. It seemed to click for him and he seemed to be a little more understanding of what this conversation is really about. I can't say that he's completely changed his mind, but he definitely was more receptive to the ideas of white privilege and the current state of inequality and racism.
That's because everyone compares themselves to people have more rather than to people who have less. Lent is an annual run of 40 days where we are supposed to be building up empathy for those who have less. Instead it's about feeling sorry for yourself because you have to eat those garbage McDonald's fish sandwiches on Fridays.
I think Jon's elaboration further into this segment - that privilege is "not having to add the extra steps...." - helps to clarify the point. His example of the female coworker who changes her commute out of precaution for her safety and due to harassment is a good one that doesn't rely on race but still exemplifies the point. I, as a burly, white, male - don't have to worry about these things. Much like I don't (likely) need to fear for my life during a traffic stop. I already have the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement (due to my skin color, sex and age) that I will not be a threat. THAT is privilege and it doesn't take anything away from my life experiences to acknowledge the fact that these things exist as obstacles for others.
I think it boils down to a distinction between *having* priviledge and *benefiting from* priviledge. The difference being that these are about two different counterfactuals. Being white I can see how all things being equal otherwise I would have faced additional issues if I was not-white. That's having white priviledge. On the other hand all things being equal otherwise and me still being white, but white supremecy is gone, I don't see me worse off. In fact I think I would benefit from that situation (but that's from looking at the particulars of my situation and I'm not from the US and the local forms of systemic racism work differently here and where they interact with my life they negatively affect me).
This like a college dorm room of the kids who could never handle having their viewpoint questioned so they only hung out together. Not an ounce of pushback from any one of them for wildly stupid claims being made in there.
I've always thought the easiest way to describe privilege, for me, is "Yeah. My life has been hard. But it was never any harder because I was a white dude, and it could have been harder if I wasn't." Doesn't seem that hard to understand, honestly.
Except that nowadays some white people do think their life is harder because they're white. They see white representation being lessened (slightly) on TV and now they think it's a crime to be white, that all whites will eventually be replaced. Or males, when they hear "toxic masculinity" they think it means "all masculinity is toxic" and therefore they're not "allowed" to be masculine without being cancelled. They think they're the ones jumping through extra hoops now.
Well, and there are people that do think because you are white, you have privilege, and your life is a cake walk. I had a black coworker tell me I had everything handed to me, and never had to work for anything because I’m white. Not knowing anything about my personal life, they made that statement solely based on the color of my skin. My parents were poor, I worked my butt off in school to ensure I was a valedictorian so I could get scholarships. My scholarships paid for my tuition, and I worked full time while going to school full time to pay for the rest. Most weeknights only getting about 4 hours of sleep. I went on to grad school and took out 30k in loans in addition to full time work to pay for it. I got my MBA and took a job making 39k a year. They offered me 37 and I negotiated up. A year later, I got a letter from the us department of labor saying I was entitled to compensation from a lawsuit it had filed against my company for discriminating against white men, as all other demographics were offered that 39k to begin with. They didn’t have to negotiate for it. I’m not complaining, because life has its hurdles for everyone. Some have bigger hurdles than others. But, when Jon says white people need to understand it’s not your life isn’t hard, just not as hard as others, he also needs to convey that message to his side of the aisle. Because there are absolutely people that think white privilege means all white people lived privileged lives, and don’t have to work for anything.
@@FanboyFilms Unless you are an actor or college student, this fear is unfounded. Discrimination only works when the market is not competitive. Because Hollywood and college are oligopolies, discrimination is not removed by market pressures. For most white people, if a company discriminates, the company loses money. When South Africa was under apartheid, competitive companies were constantly violating the laws by hiring black workers. So, an alternative way to fight discrimination is to create competitive markets.
I'm super progressive, but I think even Jon has to admit that there's a certain connotation to the word privilege. As a speaker of the english language, if I'm told I'm "privileged" I feel like I've been afforded special, maybe even unique treatment that most (any) others haven't been afforded. I think it is a fundamentally poor choice of words in what they're trying to convey. Not being afraid for my life when I see a police officer isn't a privilege. It is a fundamental human right. The fact that it's being denied to the black community is appalling. But it doesn't make me privileged. Put another way, if a group of people is being mistreated, it doesn't mean the other groups of people are "privileged" for not being mistreated. It totally confuses the issue and puts everyone on the defensive.
Like, why are you intentionally choosing inflammatory language? Are you trying to make your job as difficult as possible? On one hand, casually call all white people (men, specifically) privileged, categorically "racist", and/or supremacist. On the other hand, I noticed now apparently we can't call homeless people 'homeless'? They're now "unhomed"? I can't be the only one that sees the hypocrisy?
@@Kareruren Ya aint the only one. They are reinforcing racism by speaking in generalities. its a class and money issue. By saying "withe people" you lose any of the ones that might actually be supportive.
The “fact”??? Children in the US are more likely to die of COVID in 2021 than black people are of police encounters. I say that because the percentage of black deaths that year in police encounters was around 0.0004% of the entire black population. HARD progressive people have polled to think that they die by the 10,000s every year which is laughably way off.
I have always said that I'm weird. I am a 56 year old white cis male, but I'm also a paraplegic and have been since I was 15. So I have gotten to see the world from both sides of the prejudice window. It took me a long time, but I finally understood that I get to enjoy privilege because I'm a white male. But I have also experienced direct prejudice because of my wheelchair. I realize that as a percentage of population people in wheelchairs are not a large portion of our society, but it seems that we are forgotten in every conversation about prejudice in the world.
But I think the question is what good does you thinking about your "privilege" do? I don't get the purpose of talking about it. It feels like the intent is to make sure the "privileged" people feel guilt or shame. But firstly, in many cases that is unfair because said people like yourself already have it hard enough. And secondly anybody feeling guilt doesn't fix any of the problems of inequality. How often do you chide others for their "non-paraplegic" privilege? Because I'm sure that's far more of disadvantage than race. But I'm guessing you don't do that because other people feeling worse doesn't help you.
Disability, ableism and privilege of the non-disabled is often brought up in circles I'm in. It's definitely part of intersectionality, which is where privilege discussions are usually brought up. It's why we, as a society, have (mostly) agreed that wheelchair accessibility should be part of normal infrastructure and should be added when possible or accommodated in some other reasonable way when possible. I'm sorry you don't feel it's brought up enough in more broad ways like TV shows; it absolutely should be. Joe, the good it does is feeling empathy (not guilt!) for people who have different struggles than yourself. Empathy helps us try to correct problems in our society. Knowing Keith has issues with accessibility is why people have mostly agreed we should have disabled parking spots, wheelchair access and various other accommodations to try and make life a little less hard on the disabled. Knowing he feels it's not brought up enough in comparison to other struggles allowed me to acknowledge his feelings are real and valid (which may not be much, but for some people acknowledgement feels a little better) and will make me more aware of when I go places whether they have accessibility options for people like Keith. I'm actually thinking of a shop in my downtown that I'm realizing has doors that are too narrow for a wheelchair; I don't know if they have another access option and can check on that. I think that's a city code violation if they don't. I have some power to help fix that. Keith won't personally benefit since I doubt we live near each other but someone else who's disabled might. It is absolutely a result of my non-disabled privilege that I didn't notice this sooner. I don't feel guilt about that though. I just feel empathetic and a desire to help correct the situation in whatever way I reasonably can.
As far as the white privilege example being expressed around the one minute mark, I wouldn't just assume that white people don't get profiled by the police. From the time I was 15-19 I lived in a small white farming community in Southern Illinois, I was poor, and I was stop and frisked by local pd at least 30 times. Never got caught with drugs or charged with anything, but definitely got searched, breathalyzer even tho I'm just walking around, and had 6 pocket knives confiscated. I understand that you are much more likely to be profiled by police for being black, but to assume all white people have a "Hey Jim" relationship with cops is false.
15-19 year olds are definitely discriminated against too. But 15-19 year old black teens? It's just another layer that makes it so much more likely to happen, and those experiences with the cops don't often end well for anyone...
@@michaelf8221 don't forget poverty. Poverty/class plays a big roll on police interactions too. Have a really old beater car in a nice neighborhood, guess who's getting pulled over on a pretext? It's not as bad as driving while black but it's definitely a close third, maybe second.
@@michaelf8221 yes, I understand that, I too have been "hands on the hood where I can see them" handled by the police, and trust me, I would have been just as fucked had I actually been caught with something and made my way into the judicial system. I acknowledge that its easier for police to profile minorities, I understand that statistically you are more likely to be profiled by the police being a POC, I'm just saying that let's not pretend that it is EXCLUSIVELY a minority problem, white people experience it too, and it might just be a problem with policing more than "all cops are just racists".
That was age and sex related, not because you were white. Teenagers (especially boys) are a discriminated class with police as well. Always assumed to be doing bad things. Now imagine you were black on top of being a teenage boy who will be stopped for all three of those discriminated classes. You are acting as if you were profiled for being white, but you weren't. Race is not the only thing discriminated on in the US. It's often one of the topics discussed because it's one of the most visible, but that doesn't mean anyone's pretending it's the only thing police (and other systems in the US) discriminate based on.
It's very hard for people to understand and emphasize with someone else's lived experiences, and it's easier to ignore the problem altogether. As an anglophone living in Quebec, I've experienced discrimination first hand as the province constantly pushes the French language and there's a segment of the population who will absolutely refuse service or look down on you if you don't speak in their native tongue. But that discrimination only exists for me when I speak in certain situations with certain people. It doesn't exist 100% of the time, nor is it compounded by other factors like gender or colour. And I've also had opportunities to work on learning the French language to avoid those situations. People of colour, women, and LGBTQ members can't change who they are, so the only solution is for everyone else to learn to respect them and make space for equal opportunity. I'm hopeful that younger generations will eventually replace the old guard and establish new norms that makes everyone feel comfortable.
@@stnbch3025 still should not be discriminated on. See also Pakistan and Bangladesh. As a Pakistani-American, it was totally Pakistan's fault for pushing Urdu on people whose language never resembled it. Its worse because Urdu wasn't even the native language of most of West Pakistan, it was only native for us Mohajirs(immigrants from India). Aga Khan III even tried to set Arabic as the official language when almost no one speaks it in any part of Pakistan.
I've lived stigma and discrimination based on my mental health, and often run into people saying "well I deal with discrimination too" One thing they didn't touch on, because they were talking about the big issues, was microaggressions. The little digs that can sometimes on the face of it look like a compliment, but have roots in prejudice. Example: "You're sp well spoken!" Can often have an unspoken but clearly heard and felt "For a black person" tacked to the end of it. To me it feels like someone complaining to their friend about their deadly peanut allergy, and the friend replies that they get sniffles from hayfever every spring as if it's the same thing. Or someone being bitten by a mosquito once or twice a season thinking they understand the experience of a person who gets stung dozens or hundreds of times a day.
White people are not saying "Oh, Jim!" And walking past. No. The problem is, young black men tend to live in urban environments. Urban environments are sometimes gang war zones. Police policing these war zones are sometimes on edge, and yes the negative police encounters are the stories that make the news. Notice, the everyday mundane police encounters do not make the news. So 1.) It's a condensed population issue. 2.) It's a story the media selects issue. 3.) It's never hearing about innocent white men that die at the hands of cops because that would break "the police hunting black men" narrative. Tony Tempeh was a white man who died the same way as George Floyd. On police cam. Available to be seen on yt. Nobody gives a shit.
y'know, getting catcalls on the street and being unsafe after dark... is also a cultural/crime problem. we don't have that in most east asian cities, and i'm guessing neither in western european cities.
It happens in Europe and even in Asia. Asian women have complained about harassment when walking and so has European women, even in the love streets of Italy. The frequency of which it happens might change and the form, even like how Japan has a lot of sexual harassment on trains, but it is a systematic worldwide problem.
@@ellissabetta5909 i guess we differ in the definition of "systemic". systemic is when its seen as normal, like supposed to happen because how else should it be?. its not. i would claim most people know its not normal and rude, but it still happens because rude ppl exist.
@@TNM001 It isn't rude. Don't conflate regular rudeness with harassment; they are different things. Yelling at someone because you are upset at something they did is rude; randomly yelling sexual innuendos or harassing random women is beyond that. And it is systematic because it is seen as normal for it to happen almost exclusively to women. It doesn't happen to men.so there is a normalization of harassment towards women. There are plenty of systematic thibgs that are not seen as "visibly socially accepted" but society accepts it because we continue to let it happen.
@@ellissabetta5909 dont ever change the goalpost in a conversation to make your point. nobody was minimizing racism. end of discussion. there is no "system" behind catcalling btw...so i guess we are done here also according to you.
...which only matters for an ever shrinking fraction of the population. If you want to talk finances and bring racial/gender/whatever equality into it, be prepared to alienate a large number of people while playing right into the hands of said ever shrinking fraction of the population.
Why stop there? Let’s connect the dots back to the first civilizations 10, 000 years ago. If only they had made better decisions, we would not be in this mess right now. In fact let’s connect the dots back to the first humans 2 million years ago. If those bastards just stayed the way the were and didn’t evolve none of our problems would exist.
Instead of these consultant like think tank discussions. Why not have like 5 rotating real working class people from around the country. Less pseudo intellectualism and more real discussions
It's easiest to see privilege, in any form, when you don't have it. It takes a higher degree of introspection to see how what you take for granted can be advantageous to your life, and why others might wish for the same. I know that my life hasn't been easy, I'm a millennial who's low on the spectrum and has ADHD. Bad economy, brain doesn't work how I want it to, etc. There's a difficult dichotomy where on one hand - The suffering of others doesn't invalidate your own suffering While at the same time - There are others who have things a lot worse than me, who deserve understanding, compassion, assistance...
let me explain PRIVILEGE - when i go to JAPAN - i notice everything is made for Asian people - they prefer hiring asians, their government is run by asians... they have privilege Same thing applies in black countries ONLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE DENIED SELF DETERMINATION IN THEIR COUNTRIES aka "PRIVILEGE"
There’s little more that brings me delight… than those with “wealth”~> telling me how terrible “wealth” is. This _round table_ is the epitome of what disgusts the majority of Americans. Utter hypocrites🍺😒
@@MrBLAA If only Jon Stewart could figure out how to pay the reparations he claims he owes to black people, there is some INVISIBLE FORCE preventing Jon from doing it
@CrazyNendo what are you talkin about?! It’s something like 7 out of 10 white college kids lie on their college entrance exams, when it asks about race… they’re doing so to qualify as “Protected Class” so they can receive benefits. And it MOST DEFINITELY still goes down today! I’ve worked for the city for 20+ years… till this day, they prioritize equality over qualifications. It’s all politics, always has been 🤷♂️
It’s using the word to express these life experiences that previously didn’t have a verbal shorthand. So everyone who is dealing with extra problems because of race, gender, etc, is excited because it makes it easier to talk about it. But I think the video brings up a good point that the word can be confused with people having “extra boost”, when what is actually meant is they have less sh*t to wade through, but it’s the word that caught on. I think it’s still best to define it at the start of a conversation if you want 100% sure everyone is on the same page.
I took a college course back when I was at Texas Christian University where the professor (an Asian American male) defined "White Privilege" as not having more advantages in life, rather having fewer disadvantages/discriminations in life (so opposite of what it sounds like). Essentially, in our country's history, White people (with few exceptions) have not faced the multiple generations oppression that most People Of Color (particularly African Americans) have faced, resulting in fewer disadvantages for them today. Sure, if you're a wealthy White person, you are better off than all average/poor people in the U.S., but if you're a middle class White person, you still have better chances to succeed in life because you don't have the systemic disadvantages that African, Asian, Hispanic, and Native Americans at a similar social class level have. Finally, when a person of color does become successful in the U.S., it isn't because of "Reverse Discrimination" as some White Americans argue, rather it is because they have managed to overcome the disadvantages that they faced that many of their White counterparts didn't have to face.
Your professor is wrong. Poor Black people and poor white people overcome financial disadvantages and become financially successful at about the same rate. The color difference comes in on the other end. Black families lose their generational financial wealth at a higher rate.
A anti white black guy guns down 18 people.in the NY subway and his anti white YT videos get ignored. If he was white and posted neo nazi shit we would never hear the end of it
Thanks for the convo! I've heard that privilege can be measured by what you don't have to learn to get through the day. So like not having to learn where the harassment happens, not having to learn how to tell doctors what they want to hear so you get medication, not having to learn how to keep quiet when you have a better idea, and on and on and on
@@lynnhettrick7588 I hope you succeed! a pro tip: start by getting ur friends to imagine all the stuff that they don't have to learn as a white dude etc., deal with, hide from etc. and then tell them that's a privilege. It's the same strategy used to debunk anti-science people and it works better, maybe not great but it's the best we have for now.
Extremely problematic comment. "Learning where the harassment happens" urr sure I guess. "Telling doctors what they want to hear so you get medication" is malingering, and will reduce any doctor's ability to help you. Stop. And "keeping quiet when you have a better idea" is the dumbest thing I've heard all week, speak up for fucks sake, if you have something useful to add.
As a white person id just like to confirm to you guys that all white peoples are racist. Even the ones who seem nice when you talk to them are actually judging you in their head. It’s simply just built into our DNA. I’ve been trying to get rid of my racist thoughts for years, but they just never go away. Unfortunately I give up and just accept the fact that it’s just who we are as white people. Every time that I think I’m finally getting over my racist tendencies, other white people will talk me back into it. Even white babies are racist before birth, it’s a scientific fact that’s been proven. When we see other fellow white people, we often do subtle hand signals or dog whistles to each other in order to confirm that we both believe in the standard whiteness ideology.
The dude said he doesn’t know what it’s like to have privilege. Do you understand how much of a privilege it is to be born in America. There are people living on less than a dollar a day in dirt poor countries wishing they could have the standard of living that we take for granted every day.
@@PTV69420 For starters if you’re saying what I said is a strawman argument then you’re incorrect. Secondly I can barely understand what you just wrote. In fact I have no idea what point you were trying to make. I would rephrase what you said.
@@PTV69420 Europe like Hungary? I’d assume you wouldn’t like that comparison. Like Ukraine? No. Like Britain who left the eu? Like Greece and their almost hyperinflation? How about any Eastern European country outside of Estonia?
this is a white privilege circle jerk right here... If you can't understand that there is a difference between what a black woman experiences and a white man experiences on a daily basis in a very general sense in America on a normal day then you need to step the fuck out of the argument. Don't come at people with the "At least you aren't starving in Africa!" bullshit. That's an entirely different discussion. You don't look smart, you look smarmy and ignorant.
A ton of privilege at this table lol its crazy that people in positions of actual Privilege try convincing us poor people how privileged we are lmao like what the fuck
When you live in a zero-sum culture, as every American does, you expect that one person's winning is someone else's losing. It's automatic, it's in your bones. It does not matter what side of the ledger you are on, this is the transaction model that guides your life. As long as Americans continue to live by this creed, nothing will fundamentally change.
Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, WHITE COUNTRIES ARE MELTING POTS THAT BELONG TO EVERYONE BUT WHITES! Clearly a zero sum for Whites.... but they are waking up to the anti-white scam
Capitalism is inherently zero sum. There are a finite number of jobs, a finite number of college openings, a finite number of homes, and on and on the list goes. One person getting accepted into college means someone else was rejected. Invariably this leads to resentment between groups of people, especially when it can appear as if someone gains an unfair advantage because of their physical appearance.
Lol that is an actual joke I assume or you have decided to show actual prejudice by saying every American thinks a certain way. The close minded opinion of avery young and naive person it what your statement looks like.
I love how these Americans complain about not having equal privileges in America when the average American is wealthier than 99% of the rest of the planet .
Ppl who typically love Jon Stewart hate this version of him when he talks about race. But that shows their own racism. He's still the same guy, just now making you feel uncomfortable about your own biases and maybe what your nana and pop pop did in the 50s
@@jaygold4467 and that ladies and gentlemen, is the thought process. Foxing the inequality is seen as privilege to those who never have any intentions or desires to be equal.
@@jaygold4467 if onlh the opportunites were equal....but they arent. Like i said, you care more to talk and dismiss than LISTEN. That is your perogative
who are u worried about? Racist white men attacking u in the streets? do u live in the real world? 60% of homicides are committed by black men and whites are the most attacked when it comes to interracial crime
@@cman8464 you said alot of nothing buddy. The point that I making is that it is very hard for me being a blk and a woman and you gasligthted everything I said proving my point. Gaslighting has made me unsafe and vulnerable. So my point stands and your gaslighting just proved it😒
@@cman8464 "Something to consider when debating blacks is that arguments based on arithmetic are likely to mean very little to them. I well remember a radio debate with a black about crime, in which I pointed out that blacks are more likely than whites to be charged with hate crimes. He laughed dismissively and, to my surprise, said he had the FBI hate crimes report with him ... He triumphantly read out that blacks committed only 22 percent of hate crimes, while whites committed more than 60 percent. After a few minutes of trying to explain that this figure proved my point - that 22 percent is greater than the proportion of blacks in the population - I gave up. A surprising number of whites have trouble understanding any kind of per capita argument; for most blacks, it might as well be quantum theory." Jared Taylor "Arguments for Our Side"
Thank you Thank you for releasing these free on UA-cam. apple tv+ is not affordable for me and I LOVE this show. Even if only a portion of the show is available, I'll watch it twice.
I think that everyone, anywhere, is going to kill me and I have soul crushing anxiety about leaving my house… and, yes, I still have privilege (regardless of the color of my skin). Everybody is human. Treat each other like they are human. That's it.
@@zoobrizz I think it's sadder to kick someone when they are down. It says a lot about your life. I hope you have a better one going forward. Hopefully your big top career takes off.
Damn! I wish every conversation about race could start and end like this EPISODE. IF ONLY! Nonetheless, we'll take these bits and pieces of freedom to "imagine better."
Well these are all like minded people who are willing to listen. That round table Jon had with that Andrew person is more how these conversations go with some debate-lord Andy spouting about logical fallacies, demanding that everyone else has the burden of proof even for things that are self evident, playing the victim by pretending their feelings are hurt, and throwing out "facts" that are not only racist but have been debunked a million times.
@@PyroX792I can't agree with you more-#WeAreOurNationsWorth. Perhaps my "imagine better" is a deliberate intent to use the one-drop rule for exclusion as a form of inclusion: One conversation like this a week should help us pass the great divide of claims made about imaginary loss if we agree on some fundamental reality of rules, laws, and systems of pre-planned white supremacist discrimination that is the foreverness of our great divide. If you live Black or Brown long enough, you realize that you can't hate another human in any serious search for freedom-harmony-love. You can only hate the racist ignorance the human claims as dense armor against the human that we all are. We, every one of us-we are the only constant to every purpose achievable, in spite of obstacles. And I have checked with every god before making that statement. And yes, they all agree to wait and watch what we are willing to do for ourselves beyond imagining better. So, there is that. We are our nations' worth. #Worth2Worth
@@PyroX792 The burden of proof falls on whoever is making claims . Andy may have been wrong , but when he asked Jon to elaborate on what systems are perpetuating racism....crickets. A solid answer right then would've been great , but there isn't a solid answer . Generaly there's a disparity , and that's what is being labeled as systemic racism . It's obvious racism exists , it's also obvious it's negatively impacting people's lives , but how, who, and to what extent is it a factor? These things must be known to know what to do about it.
I’m Mexican This is the most racist dialogue I’ve ever heard. No white person has ever held me back. You know who did? People with the same skin as me.
Well said, Tyler B. It’s not just about me or you. It’s a system. Acknowledging that racism is real is the first step toward eradicating it. Denial means we all suffer-including white folks.
It’s amazing to watch Jon Stewart work. His wit is amazing. The way he jumped in with “… just after the Italians”. Then his analysis is something else. The perspective that minorities have to add extra steps to get to normal is what many may not understand. America, nay the world, has a treasure in this guy.
Ya John is a national treasure. Hopefully every country on earth refuses to transact in the dollar. The look on your faces would be priceless for you to see you have no purchasing power. You can join the club. Suddenly we will koombiah in tandem.
I'm very happy that Jon has put in the work, looking in the mirror at himself, to see what he had been clueless about and then educating himself. He wasn't always aware of his privileges but by listening to women and POC, he's learning. So glad he's using that privilege for good.
@@scytale6 then you and the millions misunderstood. Dr. King never uttered the words colorblind. Nor should it be necessary. Why should one have to make themselves blind to my skin color to treat me fairly? Also, he was murdered when he was working on the poor people’s campaign which included white and black folks.
In the year 2345 aboard a spaceship circling a distant planet there is a black astronaut complaining that he was passed over for a promotion due to systemic racism and the ongoing legacy of slavery.
I'm an older white male. Part of the issue around discussing privilege is, we discuss it the wrong way around. If I get pulled over, I'm only worried about getting a ticket. That's not privilege. That's expected. Maybe, instead of saying white people are privileged (many clearly aren't), we should be emphasizing the under-privilege that black people face. I know this is semantics, but words matter.
I'm black and I find that tone demeaning! Dont do the crime and dont do the time. Hanging out in the wrong places with the wrong people has negative consequences. Black or white!
Do you really think black people should be worried about anything other than getting a ticket? Really? Don't tell me you believe all the crap about police hunting blacks...
I agree. They just came up with this "dismantling white privilege" BS recently. Before that, the talk was more common sense and about helping the disadvantaged. Privilege means "special". Being white in a majority white nation is not special, it's normal. Those that get BETTER than normal treatment are privileged. Those that get WORSE than normal treatment are disadvantaged.
@@MAKD88 the rich want us divided by race. If poor black people and white people are fighting over who has the most privilege...they won't notice the rich black and white peopel with all the real privilege.
@@sheridanparker264 It depends on how much they each make and own. Poor white people usually don't pass down any inherited wealth (money or property) despite the 'anti-racist' rhetoric.
Basically means shut up and let me lecture you and if you question anything I say, you're just expressing white fragility and white defensiveness about your white supremacy and white privilege.
I don't know a single person who just waltzes by police without a care in the world. Every cop sighting is like encountering a bear in the woods. It has the potential to end you, and there's next to nothing you can do about it except hope it doesn't get aggressive.
The problem with defining "normal life" of whites as privileged is that it just is wrong semantically. This is because there are three levels of privilege. There is underprivileged, there is neutral, and then there is privileged. Historically, we label the poor and oppressed as underprivileged, the wealthy elite as privileged, and normal middle class as neutral, meaning neither privileged nor underprivileged. That breakdown has worked fine for discussion for a century. However, some one decided "Gee, the more whites we can call privileged, the better." So they decided to change this all up. Now, according to Jon, the white middle class are "privileged" and so I guess that means blacks are neutral? So who's underprivileged? And what are the wealthy elite, double-privileged? It just makes a semantic mess out of everything. And for what? So you can tell all white people "You are privileged. Feel bad about it!" Why can't you just tell middle class whites, "Blacks are underprivileged when they must take extra steps to get to the same place in life, to enjoy the same things in life, as you. That's not fair." That's fine. That labeling system works. But calling everyone with a "normal" life privileged just does not work. Consider this: My brother was born with birth defects and has always had a tougher time doing a lot of basic stuff. If we applied Jon's racial privilege terms to disability, then everyone without a disability is there by "privileged." I'm not saying people without disabilities are not better off than people with disabilities, but here's how the labels work: Disabled people are disadvantaged physically. People without disabilities are physically neutral. People with super-powers or some special physical skills are physically advantaged. See how that works? You do NOT define the middle / neutral group as privileged because it just is bad semantics. Whoever decided the only way we will get racial justice is if we change the labeling so that now anyone not disadvantaged by racism is going to be labelled "privileged," (and we won't worry about how to label the wealthy elite who are above the law because that would throw a wrench in this plan) was a moron. You know, when racial justice advocates gather to discuss how to try to advance racial justice and equality, you don't HAVE to clap and cheer for every suggestion they make. It is okay -- even better -- to think about the ideas objectively and call out the ideas that are b.s.
@Klere Zooi Exactly. If not being handicapped is NOT a societal privilege, then being white is also NOT a societal privilege. It makes more sense to speak of racial injustice and oppression as making blacks underprivileged / disadvantaged. I do think, since this is a matter of semantics, it is possible to go ahead and use the modern labeling (blacks are neutral, whites are privileged, wealthy elites are super-privileged or whatever). However, the reason this makes less sense, apart from the fact that it drops the concept of underprivileged from the language and forces us to create a new word for the super privileged (i.e., those truly privileged), it simply is bad marketing. The majority of whites living their middle class (sometimes lower middle class) lives have an understandable defensiveness over anyone trying to label them "privileged." Ultimately, these people might agree 100% with the end goals of racial equity, and might support all reasonable proposals to get to that point, but if you drive them away so they don't even get to that point by calling them "privileged" and then insulting them for being defensive about being called "privileged," you have just stalled the whole racial equity movement by going off on some tangent to justify some semantic language modification that is actually not even needed to achieve the end goals. In short, if it does not actually help solve the problems, don't try using it as a solution. Changing the meaning of "privileged" in order to call all whites "privileged" does not help solve racial inequities, so why do it? Similarly, re-defining "racist" to mean all white people (rather than just people who believe their race is superior to others, which is what it historically has meant for centuries) is ill-conceived, drives away "on the fence' whites who could very well be allies in fixing racism but for their defensiveness at being labelled racists themselves. Who does that help?
I've found that if you assimilate, then opportunities and resources will simply emerge with very little effort. When I was a rebellious kid and said fuck this and fuck that and blamed my problems on a broken society, I was rejected and I got very few opportunities to get ahead of the game and struggled for resources and equality. I made my life hard. Assimilate and become equal. Get in the game.
I don't think me calling someone a racist means I think they are immoral, although for some racist that is the truth, but me calling a white person in general a racism means that you continue in and support the very things that keep life from being good for me. All the things I need are accessible, but that racist behavior that you don't even acknowledge at times, becomes a brick wall to me accessing those things that make life equal for me.
I'd love to get behind this but my gf can't go to the store right next to our house without being harassed by BLACK dudes commenting on her body while she stands in line, and I get my job of 13 years threatened by taking me to hr for trying my best to train new black co worker. I can be nice all day but I still need to tell you when you're doing something wrong and tell you how to do it right. It got so bad me and others left the department and now the minority folks there just hate and tell on each other.
@@whiskeydevil4970 black guys can be very complimentary to a fault. Your girl is no doubt flattered, but won't tell you that. And your hr department has failed you if you're a trainer and they haven't provided you with training. The psychology of work is that all people have a learning preference for example, I learn and retain information best if I am told what and how and why to do something while I actually have hands on. If you're doing the hands on and explaining too, I'm going to be lost. And I will let you know that Black people know that's one of the many strategies white people in a work place use to retain the power and upper hand over us. You see, if I have hands on and you're explaining while I do the work if you leave any information out, the task will probably not work and then you'll have to acknowledge you left some key information out. 😉 that kind of racism is a hindrance to blacks progressing on jobs. So don't feel pity for yourself, acknowledge your shortcomings in the form of racism and be better at life.
tell us what is not accessible to people of color in America please do telt? This victim mentality has to stop everyone's starting to sound like fucking babies lmao Nobody wants to stop you from obtaining anything in life if you want it bad enough then earn it like everyone else period. I don't know a single person that wants to stop anyone from succeeding in this nation.
I came to understand my privilege when we were missing something for dinner late one night and I said to my lovely wife... "Hey. Why don't you just run to the store and grab some and I'll finish dinner." ...and she was like..."At night? Uhhhh....no" and proceeded to explain dark parking lots to me and the difference between being me, a large man, and being her, a petite woman. And then it clicked. All the things I don't have to worry about because I'm a boy. And then I realized all the things I don't have to worry about because I'm white. And then I realized all the things I don't have to worry about because I'm straight.
The list is long of things I don't have to worry about and all the reasons I don't have to worry about them.
Not all men are large. Men are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime.
@@IridescentW You are correct, not all men are large. But with near zero exceptions, all men represent a potential threat to almost every woman. The fact that men are statistically more likely to be victim of a violent crime, has the opposite implication to what you're suggesting. It is merely a consequence of the fact that men are exponentially more likely to be instigate violence in general than women are. The fact that men like to fight more, and someone loses that fight, is not grounds for sympathy toward men.
Charlie nailed it
So, you were gonna have your wife go to the store instead doing it yourself?
@@Elevenwarriors1234A) as I said, at this time, I had not yet considered how this might be dangerous for her. B) I do the cooking in my family, and I was in the middle of preparing the meal.
"No one is saying your are racist".... except the guest the other day which Jon did zero pushback when she said a poor white person is on equal footing as the KKK for racism. Also would like them to discuss what would actually help. Seems the other day they were asking that but then refusing to discuss the solutions and instead focusing on the past.
Racism seems to be the label used to silence less privileged poor white people so they don’t get a seat at the table.
I’d wager rich white people are probably more racist collectively than poor. Im sure there are racists in each and all groups of all people but I like to think that the majority of people in groups aren’t racist. Hopefully that isn’t me being naive.
>>"No one is saying your are racist".... except the guest the other day which Jon did zero pushback when she said a poor white person is on equal footing as the KKK for racism.
Dave Chapelle had a great story in "The Bird Revalation" about how he worked a comedy club owned by some gangsters. They paid him $20,000 in cash. He stuffed it all into his backpack and got on the subway at 3 am. He said he was literally fearing for his life because if anybody on that train knew what he had in that backpack, they wouldn't hesitate to kill him for it.
Then he says, "Now imagine walking around with a pussy in your pants 24/7..." :-o
Literally can’t read that last bit not in his voice lmao
That was a great bit that helps men have empathy for women without starting from the premise that men are somehow shitty.
Having empathy for your fellow human of any race/gender is good, and can be done without antagonizing terms like "privilege" as demonstrated well by Chappelle.
Homicide rate for men is 3x higher, so yah women fear getting harassed vs men fear getting killed.
@@MindlessTube Women fear getting raped.
@@MindlessTube any idea how analogies work?
This is what I love about people like Jon Stewart. The explanation. Its light at times, and serious at times, and he walks you through his thought process and opens the door WIDE for discourse. People on the right TEND TO avoid the discourse, and use volume and proximity to 'win arguments'. Debate is fine, even with an extremist - a debate is fine, if both sides leave with a little more understanding of the other. I think Jon provides that. He seeks to understand FIRST, which is so important to do...
You cannot have a debate when everyone in the room looks and thinks the same
Hey Jon, please debate Jared Taylor.
Fun Fact: Jon Stewart lives in a gated mansion.
@@iwil3293 Very well said , It reminds me of the stupid argument of White guilt for slavery. That was not a White issue, more likely, a wealth issue. The whole slave trade was an industry.
For these modern day rewriters of history, I would be all to happy to point out the obvious. The people who owned slaves were the equivalent of todays mega millionaires, and billionaires. My ancestors, sadly did not measure up. More likely, my ancestors would have been the slaves.
Once again, the wealthy push anything distasteful off on others , as a matter of fact.
Every country had its share of slavery. In fact, slavery was brought to the colonies by wealthy British , while the fleets of ships were owned by international bankers.
One can only marvel, how these crafty oligarchs spin every story, every situation to their advantage. One must give them an “A” for imagination.
The internet could be used as a tool to secure freedom from these tyrants, They understand this, and this is the reason the internet is heavily censored today.
The mainstream media is also heavily censored. Unfortunately, the sleeping Americans are ignorant to the vast amounts of truth that are withheld from them. Hate Speech laws are censorship. This goes much deeper than the faces we see on TV.
For example, I mentioned Jared Taylor. He has been de-platformed , for speaking the truth. Our task now, is to name the tyrants by name.
Fun Fact: White whiners always do the silly "fun fact" thing bringing up totally irrelevant nonsense when they have no counter to the argument.
Of course he does, he's a hypocrite tool joke
Hey “random UA-camr”, WHO… are _you_ taking too??🍺😂
@@MrBLAA Jon Leibowitz.
This table needs more opposing views. Without opposing views, this conversation will go no where.
This
@@blasphimus Oh shutup
I do equity work, among other things, and I've stopped using the term "privilege" because people who haven't been lucky enough to be able to go to college especially tend to struggle with the concept. It invalidates others trauma and accomplishments to tell some white guy who's drunk dad beat the shit out of him every day how privileged he is. And then if you have 6 minutes to talk to somebody and they're shut down immediately you get nowhere. Now I use a very different analogy (about having keys with doors that provide opportunity, and hidden doors, and sharing our keys because a lot of them are NOT earned) that talks about privilege without the actual word, and it makes white people go "oh, wow... okay."
Should publish more of these videos, it’s really cool to be a fly on the wall of such a funny writers room
Interview Thomas Sowell if you want to be interested in genuine critique of your perspective.
yassssssssssssss
If they did… then their entire narrative would be demolished🍺😂
Stewart is woke garbage, he probably would call TS uncle Tom or something
They're not interested in facts living in the lefty lunaverse.
@@legionanonymous3165 yeah, it’s not about getting to the truth it’s about selling a narrative or clicks.
Privilege is easy to define:
I was a teen. I had been "gifted" a car, if I could repair it. So I got it running. The registration was expired (can't renew without a current inspection), and the inspection was expired. So, to get it legal, I needed to drive it while unregistered and uninspected to get to the inspection station, then I could do the registration after.
Having just gotten it running for the first time I was excited to get it inspected so I could get it legal. I had taken my wallet out, because it was falling out while crawling around under the car.
So there, I was: No license. No insurance. No inspection. And no registration.
Pulled over for the expired inspection (bright tag on the windshield, he could see, registration tags are smaller). So I tell the cop my story.
I give him my driver's license number, expiration, address on the license. Then the owner of the car (my dad), and his DOB and address. Everything came back as valid in the system, so he gave me a ticket for no license and insurance, and let me drive away. Take my license and insurance to City Hall within 2 weeks, and the tickets are stricken.
With what I had on the side of the road, he could have towed the car or worse.
I drove away. Others in that situation might not have been so "fortunate".
Privilege is being given a chance to talk your way out of trouble. Privilege is them listening when you try.
@Bob Bob kneel "for" Blacks or kneel "on"?
@@marc21256 For. Over 500 riots for Black Lies Murder
So your "privilege" was that you acted respectfully and the cops decided to let you off? That's not a privilege, you were just lucky.
That's called "having the sense to not drive off or wrestle the cop for his gun" privilege.
@@mediabiassucks1803 We have video of Philando Castille being executed for getting his license and registration as ordered to do.
Compliance gets Black people executed.
Americans of any race saying they aren’t privileged is such a joke. Not trying to say in anyway that racism and systemic issues don’t exist, however this topic is so affected by socioeconomic class not just race alone. Socioeconomic is so much more reflective on experience in life than anything.
Theres a correlations between socioeconomics and race. When you have an understanding that America was built with racism, then you wont be so dismissive
100%
@@nottodaycolonizer you are correct, America was built with racism present but that can’t be changed. So how do we move forward? What is ideal to strive for?
@@jlaw1901 we have to address the past and quit teaching whitewashed history. It is 400 years in the making so it cant be undone over night. Im amazed that people think racism was "so long ago," yet we have individuals who was a part of civil rights, a law put in place to give non white Americans their rights to be treated equally. That is telling
@@nottodaycolonizer I agree that wasn’t long ago, it’s within 1 generation. But what I’m trying to get at is what can we actually do. What does it mean to teach white washed history and is it happening? (I’m not expressing a view just asking questions) In order to make change we need to be more specific. General phrases sound good but don’t have much actionable meaning.
For instance, I can say that I want to eliminate all racism. Sounds good but what does it mean? First we have to agree on a definition of racism and then we can discuss how to eliminate racism.
As a straight black educated man born in the early 80s, that isn't liberal or conservative. Not an entertainer or a politician. Not a gangster or a feminist... Just a family man that you know works and takes care of this family that grew up in these environments and was labeled by these folks as "super predators" for being born, yet isn't a criminal, but watched as many of my peers were hunted down and lost to the streets and yet still made it through...
I find it interesting, because we are rarely seen or spoken to. We are so rare that I barely know many others, but we are told that our families are our failure! Yet no one really wants to address these things. No one even talks to us. Strange huh?
They're never going to talk to you on this level. Jon Stewart, and other white public figures can't help you, or they'd done it. The best way to change minds is irl. Friendship leads to empathy, and that leads to real people making headway.
@@deadpilled2942 I think that was my point. It is part of the problem as we were virtually exterminated by both sides of the political isle and now there are conservatives that blame us for not being present, liberals that explain why without us, our women speak out while angry at us, but the few of us there are... No one lets us speak at all to address what's going on!
I have 2 white neighbors my age... There are NO other black men my age in my neighborhood! Our women my age cant get married, because we were wiped out! The issue is deep!
Kinda like that story Jon and his people should be familiar with... When Pharaoh kills all the boy children of a generation of the Israelites...
I was raised at a time when we were told that our life expectancy was 18 dead or in jail. I'm 41 and never been to prison! So...
"We're not saying you caused this, or you're immoral..." Um, Lisa Ford on the show on white people specifically said it was every white person's fault and we are all immoral with our complicity every day. She literally said exactly what Jon Stewart says the current racial justice movement is not saying. And he agreed with her and lauded her.
And this is not a new thing. Jon's absolutely right that IF the racial justice movement did not put this "you are immoral and racism is your fault" slant in its communication with whites, then the movement would not meet so much defensiveness from whites. And he's right that the racial justice movement should not be putting that slant on things because for the typical white person existing today (1) did nothing to create the systems we live under, and (2) has not done anything to knowingly perpetuate systemic racism and, in fact, often fights for racial justice in many ways (e.g., fighting for equal funding of public schools).
Just dividing people by race as if that defines their group activity is also inherently racist, and part of the problem. Saying, "black people are telling you what they need to fix this," and "white people just aren't listening," are both racist statements. As just one example, most platforms of the racial justice movement are favored by Democrats and opposed by Republicans. Yet there are blacks Republicans who do NOT agree with the platforms of liberal racial justice advocates. Where do they fit in? Anyone claiming to speak for all blacks is just a liar. Anyone trying to characterize all whites is a liar. The fact that nowadays the whole dialogue surrounding racial justice refers to blacks versus whites instead of "here's what some advocate, here's where some disagree," shows we have taken a step backwards in true progress. And those who insist on framing this as if all blacks are on one side and all whites on the other (which includes racial justice advocates) are to blame.
It's nice to find someone keeping a cool head, and giving some solutions. You would think black and white Americans would get along better than most. Other than indigenous Americans, black, and white people have been in the US the longest. African Americans are more American than many other white Americans.
@@deadpilled2942 Fuck no
My reply to you is that it was NEVER the movement that put that slated but the people hearing the movement. Similar to how the Black Lives Matter said one thing and white people heard "Only black lives matter", you cannot be placing the blame on people when the recipient of the message always has an expressed desire and goal to misunderstand them.
In terms of dividing people by race, it is NOT inherently racist. The reason African Americans must bond over race is because LITERALLY everything else was stripped from their ancestors BY the people who forced them to bond over race. They cannot bond over language or motherland; they don't know who those are. They were taken and stripped of all their identity BUT the color of the skin/race. They were even stripped of bonding over family through systematic rape and separation. Now, you are sitting in the privilege of telling them not to bond over the only thing they have left on which to form a community?!
Your argument that they are black republicans isn't a real argument. There isn't a single thing on this earth everyone agreed with; people can't even agree atrocities are bad. HOWEVER, the problem with your whole characterization is that it isn't even true. It has never been. at least on the people wanting racial justice side, whites vs blacks. Not during Jim Crow or slavery or now. The fact you hear it as such means you are still so defensive that one cannot talk about the very real systematic differences in society between whites and blacks without you seeing it as whites VS blacks. That is a you problem. Meanwhile, the real conversation is, and always have been, society doesn't treat whites and blacks equally and we wish to change that, and that has support from all races.
@@ellissabetta5909 You saying that when BLM says "black lives matter" then "WHITE PEOPLE" hear "only black lives matter" is exactly what is wrong with the messaging and strategy for racial reform. Because you lump together ALL white people in that accusation when many of us -- including myself -- never had a problem with BLM and supported it.
Also, you claim all black people bond over slavery, but some blacks immigrated to the US after slavery ended, and how does that fit in? And, as I noted, there are black republicans who apparently think the solutions are very different from what the largely liberal policies advocated by black rights groups. You claim that pointing to the existence of black republicans is not a "real argument." That's lazy and just shows it's an argument you cannot refute, so you try to dodge it. The very fact that there are black people who vote republican and oppose reparations and think black people are to blame for their own poverty, and there are white people who are much more supportive of black rights and progress than some black people, shows what a terrible strategy it is to divide everyone by blacks vs whites. As long as you keep trying to define the struggle as black vs white instead of "pro equality vs anti equality" you are going to keep screwing up the movement and hamstringing it.
It's not even a question fundamentally of whether your desire to frame this as black vs white has any validity, it just does not work in practice. It's like a very honest but very unsuccessful marketing campaign. If it does not sell your product and you are going bankrupt with that crappy advertising campaign, don't stick with it! From a utilitarian perspective (i.e., go with what works and what will actually fix the problem) re-framing it in race-neutral terms is a million times better than what you are doing now.
And also, if you break something by being racist, calling the fixing of a racist system racist is so tone-deaf. If i give a boy 20 dollars and give a girl 5 because of sexist, in order to fix it and give them equal, I naturally have to give more to the girl the next round. Not because i am now sexist against boys because I am FIXING the imbalance due to the sexism I committed. Giving both 20 next round still doesn't fix the gap the sexism created. I have to give her more because I kept away what was rightfully hers. Just like with blacks and human rights.
You have to fix the imbalance your racism created and that means more resources to the disadvantaged group to get them back in step.
Jon Stewart is intelligent enough to know better. That’s why his racism in unforgiveable.
What racism?
@@TROBassGuitar Didn’t you hear the things he said about ‘White People’?
@@davethebrahman9870 yeah what was racist about it?
@@TROBassGuitar Sorry, it’s probably too late to provide you with a basic education.
This comment sections criticism of the show gives me hope for humanity.
I would love to see indigenous people included in the discussions of system racism too. Colonization was the original sin in North America.
You will find that one victimized class can victimize other victimized classes. This is how humans behave. There is only one solution - genetic engineering or fixing a special device inside every human's head to control their behavior.
@@meta5291 Nothing you said has anything to do with the violent colonization of Indigenous peoples? It’s a relevant part of this dialogue. I hope they touch on it in future episodes, as the show and writers are a great team.
@@elisabethg7956 Sorry, I didn't mean any disrespect to the indigenous people's cause and your comment. I agree with you. I was just stating my observations on human behavior.
@@meta5291 no need to apologize I was just genuinely confused! Take care :)
The irony of colonization can be found by comparing neighboring counties in which one was colonized and one was not. In these cases, the colonized country has a higher standard of living. Although colonization was bad of the people actually being colonized, it is helpful for their ancestors. This is because colonizers brought innovations from other cutlers to colonies. It turns out the libs are right; diversity is good.
Yeah people have hard lives, but lack the imagination it seems to realize just How Much Harder it Could Be.
To what end? How is a black man helped if a white person with a miserable life imagines a possible story of having it somewhat worse?
@@Joe40001 Empathy. Empathy goes a long way to helping us better society. The poor white person would benefit from some of the things that benefit poor black people. Drug de-criminalization would help everyone of any color, but helps black people disproportionately since black people are disproportionately arrested and sentenced harsher than white people for the same drug crimes. (And neither should be being arrested or sentenced at all as long as there's no other crime going on; the war on drugs is hurting everyone.) And yet I know a lot of white people who do drugs (but have never been caught) that deny the disparity and are against reform even though that reform would directly help them too if they ever did get caught. Empathy would go a long way to helping correct this situation.
@@prettyevil6662000 I agree, ending the war on drugs could be a good thing .
It might not reduce the prison population though.
life gets easier once you realize you can take personal responsibility for yourself, every man according to his own ability
@@prettyevil6662000 where do you get your info. That is not true. I worked as a substance abuse counselor in a men's prison for several years. I had to know all of my clients crimes and history. I had many African American clients who had rap sheets a mile long for drug crimes and trafficking several pages and they would get less time than some of my white clients who had less serious crimes and a shorter criminal history or no criminal history bc they could afford attorneys while many of my addict white clients could not and were stuck with a public defender. Perfect example: I had one African American client would only got 2 years for dealing drugs and who had a very long rap sheet while a white guy who sold his bottle of pills first offense got 3 years! I had both clients at the same time! It was insane. You know why? MONEY. The African American client could afford a lawyer who cost around 10k and the white client couldn't afford one. It's all about money. The court could care less about someone's color. If you can pay up then you don't do as much time or none at all..
It's a class problem. Not a race problem. Stop watching the TV. You don't know what you're talking about. I was at ground zero for years.
im a white dude in a very homogenousely white country ( norway) and for me and most of my acquaintances, its totaly normal to get scared seeing the police beemer out on the road. and our cops arent carrying guns or nothing.
I'm white and have disdain for cops too. In my 20s a friend and I were coming back late at night from another friends. We had our 2 yr old sons asleep in the back seat. The hiway patrol pulled me over, pulled her and I out of the car, hands on the trunk, legs spread and guns pointed at us. Wouldn't tell us what was going on. We finally heard on their radio they'd caught the guy they were looking for. One finally apologized and told us we could go. Found out later a man ( we're both women ) in a red pickup truck had robbed a pizza hut. My car was a white olds toronado. WTF my view of cops changed to them being the bad guys after that. That was over 40 yrs ago. Have never trusted them since. Thank God for cell phone cameras.
White people don’t get that psychopaths with power hurt everyone. A rabid dog doesn’t care about who it bites.
@@emhu2594 That's racist.
I agree, my mom worked for township and one cop got tons of complaints for harassment but didn't get fired at all especially with all these complaints coming through it wasn't until he started harassing follow police that when the police in the town spoke up he then was fired. If it was any other job they been fired already because that job didn't fit that person.
@Nye I know but after the fear I felt then for me, my friends and our 2yr olds. I get why you feel the way you do. It was terrifying.
@@gabrielmaroto18 Why didn't you write a letter to the DA, like a normal person?
One thing is privilege, one thing is morality, but I think people often forget to talk about the stupidity of racism. The sheer idiocy of thinking that, first of all, there's more than one race, and then to think that various ethnic groups would have such all encompassing characteristics so as to render them unable to function in society. And no, I'm not just talking about the complete lack of scientific evidence for stuff like this.
But if we then bring a bit of the moral aspect into this: Say if we did find that one ethnic group was, for example, on average as having 1 IQ point lower than another group. Would that justify or allow the rest of society to then discriminate against that group? And more pragmatically, would it be sensible? Would it be constructive? Would it be conducive to creating a prosperous and harmonious society? Weeeellll.... Do we need to look at examples???
Ethnic conflict has always been an issue.
@@BHAKTIBROPHY Shouldn't be hard, should it?
This is an echo chamber that validates every bad thought without any rebuttal
which makes this more indoctrination that an exercise in critical thinking. Stewart is a shameless at best, ruthless at worst is spreading these lies.
It’s slapping someone in front of thousands of people and not worrying about being arrested or kicked out.
"Privilege is not having to add the rest of the steps to make the recipe taste good... No one is saying your life is easy because you're white. But what they're saying is you also don't have these five other things you gotta do."
Exactly!
And I'm not giving up any of my privilege. I'll consider it once millionaires like Jon Stewart have as little privilege as I do.
@@yarpenzigrin1893 So predictable and pathetic
@@yarpenzigrin1893 right you really showed your privilege
@@Wildpeonies23 I don't have much privilege but I intend to get more. I'll probably never have as much privilege as Jon Stewart but I'm going to dedicate my life to catching up to him.
Really so what steps exactly. Please let me know my privilege by the way my skin may be white but I am a Pacific Islander yeah mixed race so deal with it. I have experienced racism so don't give me any bullshit about white privilege.
Love everything about these discussions 🌺
@Revo 2100 You are definately describing your thougt process. Tell your parents they failed you 🏌️♂️.. . 🦴
And something that is not mentioned is that each generation mindset evolves. This also means, previous generation tend to be stuck in old fashioned/ outdated mindsets. For example, our government leaders should not be on the "very old" side. They will never pass laws that reflect the times. As such, it is no wonder we see very little or no progress at all. Our leaders are very very old... We need fresh meat, people that know the real struggles and/or understand those struggles and are willing to do anything to make people's lives easier.
There are some very stupid young people in government position as we speak. Age isn't the issue.
Like Pete Buttigieg? I'd rather vote for Bernie, even if he were 100+ with 20 minutes on the clock.
Old people never had to struggle?! I sentence you to watch some "grandma talks about her life during the depression" videos.
".. speak the Queen's English..."
"Honey, please."
-RuPaul.
So speak southern white plantation talk instead ?
Racism can't end unless and until we stop insisting on classifying everybody by race and treating races as monoliths rather than addressing individuals.
@Nye I think we can stop acting on racial prejudice right now. It is just a matter of getting people to do it.
No...that's racist.../s
@@monkeytime9851 Who is "we"? Depending on who the "we" is, your prescription sounds like enabling racism in significant populations.
We gotta repair this residual damage, first. Once everyone can start at the same starting line and be, more or less, refereed with equal rulings, then we can place more weight on the individual succeeding or failing entirely by their character. Race is a big one, so is class.
@@ronaldking1054 Humanity as a whole, that seems to be the implication. We move forward as a species united by our differences or we can fight it out over the same petty differences until the quick and unceremonious end.
"However stupid a fool's words may be, they are sometimes enough to confound an intelligent man."
Nikolai Gogol, Dead Souls
Confront black racism and fight it. Frank James. Jussie Smollett.
Thanks for sharing this quote!
Reminds me of another phrase, never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
@@CloudWalkBeta Begin - Hope springs eternal - End
Invite Dr. Cornell West to these talks, Brother Jon. He's a treasure.
Yes
Definite yes!
I would hope Jon would give him a full interview vs just a spot gabbing with his writing team. Much of this content is comedic as well as on-topic. Dr West is not a comedian as far as I know.
This is a writer meeting. Cornell West would be extremely out of place. Cornell should just on the full show
Cornell West is a race hustler.
I heard an interesting argument by a black activist lately that made me think. He argues it shouldn't be called White Privilege and it's really black oppression. Privilege applies above and beyond the population, whereas oppression is denial of basic rights and decency. Because black Americans aren't necessarily aspiring to wholesale privilege, but equality of treatment and opportunity. I wish I remembered his name.
A white person tends to get better treatment elsewhere too, like in Asia. Please don’t make everything to be about black.
I 1000% agree. By calling it "privilege" it implies it's the anomaly, and it's not. The unfairness and bias sometimes experienced by black people is the anomaly, it is the thing we should focus on and fix.
Privilege means "special". Being white in a majority white nation is not special, it's normal. Those that get BETTER than normal treatment are privileged. Those that get WORSE than normal treatment are disadvantaged.
This show is quickly becoming MTV's decoded.
It's been garbage for a while now.
I have no idea what is or isn't the show.
I watch on UA-cam.
Every topic gets 6 videos.
Keep it up Jon.
You're our only hope.
Some of it is segments from the show and some is the prep work for the show that they air.
I think we're blurring the lines between people actually having it hard to people just whining about life being hard and not wanting to put any effort into it.
Outside police brutality the only statistical danger to a black person is overwhelmingly other black people. This is selling a narrative and an excuse to black youths to not hold themselves to a higher standard to escape not the bindings of “being black” but of poverty itself. Ask white Appalachia if their struggles don’t mirror the struggles of ghetto black neighborhoods. Drug addiction, drug selling and buying, violence and rape. It’s poverty not race.
@Leech What's the blurred line between white HS dropouts having more wealth than Black College Grads?
If live is hard for almost everybody. Wouldn’t it make sense if everybody helped everybody?
It can happen.
Much love everyone 🙏🏼❤️🙏🏼
Fine, then get out of the fucking way.
Okay
Yeah, but the rich and powerful don't want that, because if the "lower" classes are united, that threatens their hold on all of the wealth and power. It's a very simple strategy, but it has worked since time immemorial and will continue to do so: divide and conquer; make the plebs hate each other, so you can count your money in peace.
Jon, run for President, talking to everyone I know, they all would vote for you in a heart beat. You have the fame, personality, logic and an amazing communication skills. It's a moment in history that I feel could be yours. Check out the likes this will get.
Where are all those likes lmao Nobody wants Jon for president only those who think like him do which is apparently 5 people including yourself lmao
Hey Jon thanks for the daily reminders on this topic yet again... When are you covering the laptop 💻?
If I am being honest. I am finding better insight, enlightenment, information and conversation in the comments section of Jon’s last few conversations about race and topics surrounding race. I find myself not gaining anything from what Jon and his guests are saying.
There is a lot of trolling and ignorance but if you don’t engage that and seek the real conversations of deference in perspective and opinion. It is quite rewarding.
The problem though is that this is a Jon Stewart show UA-cam video. The vast majority of people that would take the time out of their day to watch a discussion on racism are going to be people that agree racism is an issue. People who largely agree with eachother and people willing to discuss the matter are the minority and arent the ones creating the problem in the first place. So while it's good to have these discussions it doesnt really fix or change anything.
Agreed.
“White Privilege” is the power granted by elites, to WASPy whites of the lower classes to “police” & control the “others” in society.
Eventually, elites allowed the Irish, Italians, Spaniards, French, Scandinavian, Eastern Europeans, Slavs, Jews, etc. (not Muslims not Mexicans or anything mixed w/ indigenous) to be “white.”
Elites don’t see color. They just see “not rich.” The top .01% are/were never accessible & are only seen now because of tv & social media. To allow for a separation of the elites from the increasingly poor majority, white privilege created a buffer zone that was absolutely taken advantage of. It was the social contract established to ensure the safe distance from the masses for fear of retribution due to the ENORMOUS wealth gap. This social contract granted a societal insurance policy of just enough comfort for whites to not get mad & to not overthrow the system/gov’t. The most important thing to note is who created white privilege & why? The .01%, the elite, the ultra-wealthy, etc. who at that time just happened to be white are to blame. Not the whites in the 99% who didn’t know any better.
It has worked perfectly until now. Today, Billionaires love to show off their wealth & privileges. Allowing themselves to be seen & gloating in the faces of the less well off will be their down fall. The American mythology the elites have written/created with phrases like “self-made,” “boot straps,” the “American Dream,” “patriotism,” etc. is now exposed.
What will it take for the 99% to stand up for themselves & break the chains of white supremacy because white supremacy is really just a hatred & disgust for the 99%
@@JakeFallis75 Communication step one, use STANDARD word meanings. Even if you define a term in it's non-common meaning, it still makes your statements hard to understand. Use you plane English instead of trying to be trendy. People use these non-standard words as a way to present themselves as part of the in-group. This is similar to saying, "ax" instead of "ask".
His definition of privilege not meaning life is easy is a great point- its hard for people with hard lives to see themselves as having privilege
I wonder if part of the problem that people have with accepting if they have any kind of privilege isn't simply a semantic one. The way they define privilege here isn't exactly the same way that the word has been traditionally used. The word "privilege" has traditionally meant having an advantage beyond the base line of normal. Like getting a head start in a race. The way they define it here is like saying having privilege means you get to start at the starting line instead of some distance behind the starting line. So, I wonder if many people may have difficulty accepting that because it insinuates they have an advantage beyond normal when they only started at normal.
Ultimately, it's basically the same thing, but that semantic difference might very well make it make sense for some people who were otherwise defensive against it.
I recently had a conversation with my dad about this topic and he was very resistant to the fact that there is still inequality between white and black (and other minority groups) people. He came from a poor broken home family growing up. So did my mother. Both of my parents came from single parent homes, multiple kids, very poor. Situations that mirror a lot of black families. So they don't consider themselves as having any kind of privilege. Everything they've earned in life they feel like they worked hard for (which isn't much, they're just barely above the poverty line).
I put some of this conversation into context of what this video talks about and some other information about generational wealth an inequality and how that transcends generations. It seemed to click for him and he seemed to be a little more understanding of what this conversation is really about. I can't say that he's completely changed his mind, but he definitely was more receptive to the ideas of white privilege and the current state of inequality and racism.
That's because everyone compares themselves to people have more rather than to people who have less. Lent is an annual run of 40 days where we are supposed to be building up empathy for those who have less. Instead it's about feeling sorry for yourself because you have to eat those garbage McDonald's fish sandwiches on Fridays.
I think Jon's elaboration further into this segment - that privilege is "not having to add the extra steps...." - helps to clarify the point. His example of the female coworker who changes her commute out of precaution for her safety and due to harassment is a good one that doesn't rely on race but still exemplifies the point. I, as a burly, white, male - don't have to worry about these things. Much like I don't (likely) need to fear for my life during a traffic stop. I already have the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement (due to my skin color, sex and age) that I will not be a threat. THAT is privilege and it doesn't take anything away from my life experiences to acknowledge the fact that these things exist as obstacles for others.
I think it boils down to a distinction between *having* priviledge and *benefiting from* priviledge. The difference being that these are about two different counterfactuals. Being white I can see how all things being equal otherwise I would have faced additional issues if I was not-white. That's having white priviledge. On the other hand all things being equal otherwise and me still being white, but white supremecy is gone, I don't see me worse off. In fact I think I would benefit from that situation (but that's from looking at the particulars of my situation and I'm not from the US and the local forms of systemic racism work differently here and where they interact with my life they negatively affect me).
@@adidas2684 My husband's biggest stumbling block with talking about privilege is what a rough life we've had.
This like a college dorm room of the kids who could never handle having their viewpoint questioned so they only hung out together. Not an ounce of pushback from any one of them for wildly stupid claims being made in there.
I've always thought the easiest way to describe privilege, for me, is "Yeah. My life has been hard. But it was never any harder because I was a white dude, and it could have been harder if I wasn't."
Doesn't seem that hard to understand, honestly.
The concept is sound. It's just that terming it "privilege" was a terrible choice from a marketing perspective.
@@crash.override what would you term it?
Except that nowadays some white people do think their life is harder because they're white. They see white representation being lessened (slightly) on TV and now they think it's a crime to be white, that all whites will eventually be replaced. Or males, when they hear "toxic masculinity" they think it means "all masculinity is toxic" and therefore they're not "allowed" to be masculine without being cancelled. They think they're the ones jumping through extra hoops now.
Well, and there are people that do think because you are white, you have privilege, and your life is a cake walk. I had a black coworker tell me I had everything handed to me, and never had to work for anything because I’m white. Not knowing anything about my personal life, they made that statement solely based on the color of my skin. My parents were poor, I worked my butt off in school to ensure I was a valedictorian so I could get scholarships. My scholarships paid for my tuition, and I worked full time while going to school full time to pay for the rest. Most weeknights only getting about 4 hours of sleep. I went on to grad school and took out 30k in loans in addition to full time work to pay for it. I got my MBA and took a job making 39k a year. They offered me 37 and I negotiated up. A year later, I got a letter from the us department of labor saying I was entitled to compensation from a lawsuit it had filed against my company for discriminating against white men, as all other demographics were offered that 39k to begin with. They didn’t have to negotiate for it. I’m not complaining, because life has its hurdles for everyone. Some have bigger hurdles than others. But, when Jon says white people need to understand it’s not your life isn’t hard, just not as hard as others, he also needs to convey that message to his side of the aisle. Because there are absolutely people that think white privilege means all white people lived privileged lives, and don’t have to work for anything.
@@FanboyFilms Unless you are an actor or college student, this fear is unfounded. Discrimination only works when the market is not competitive. Because Hollywood and college are oligopolies, discrimination is not removed by market pressures. For most white people, if a company discriminates, the company loses money. When South Africa was under apartheid, competitive companies were constantly violating the laws by hiring black workers. So, an alternative way to fight discrimination is to create competitive markets.
I'm super progressive, but I think even Jon has to admit that there's a certain connotation to the word privilege. As a speaker of the english language, if I'm told I'm "privileged" I feel like I've been afforded special, maybe even unique treatment that most (any) others haven't been afforded. I think it is a fundamentally poor choice of words in what they're trying to convey.
Not being afraid for my life when I see a police officer isn't a privilege. It is a fundamental human right. The fact that it's being denied to the black community is appalling. But it doesn't make me privileged.
Put another way, if a group of people is being mistreated, it doesn't mean the other groups of people are "privileged" for not being mistreated. It totally confuses the issue and puts everyone on the defensive.
Like, why are you intentionally choosing inflammatory language? Are you trying to make your job as difficult as possible? On one hand, casually call all white people (men, specifically) privileged, categorically "racist", and/or supremacist. On the other hand, I noticed now apparently we can't call homeless people 'homeless'? They're now "unhomed"? I can't be the only one that sees the hypocrisy?
@@Kareruren Ya aint the only one. They are reinforcing racism by speaking in generalities. its a class and money issue. By saying "withe people" you lose any of the ones that might actually be supportive.
@@jasonlarsen3515 yeah a lot of the black community is happening to the black community
@@jasonlarsen3515 ? Why the quotes? Are there now not communities anymore?
The “fact”??? Children in the US are more likely to die of COVID in 2021 than black people are of police encounters. I say that because the percentage of black deaths that year in police encounters was around 0.0004% of the entire black population. HARD progressive people have polled to think that they die by the 10,000s every year which is laughably way off.
I’m loving your new platform Jon, absolutely fantastic 👌
Yes. Yay Apple...
Life ain’t hard for Jon Stewart
Jon has been very wealthy for a long long time. Maybe he should take a stand and dole out some reparations for his own BIPOC staff members.
@@alan.smitheeee He should give up 90% of his wealth, he has more than he needs.
@@yarpenzigrin1893 he shouldn’t have to give up any. It’s absurd to even suggest that.
@@chet1921 Why? Since he's acting like such a savior he should lead by example.
@@yarpenzigrin1893 you changed my mind. I agree with that point.
I have always said that I'm weird. I am a 56 year old white cis male, but I'm also a paraplegic and have been since I was 15.
So I have gotten to see the world from both sides of the prejudice window. It took me a long time, but I finally understood that I get to enjoy privilege because I'm a white male.
But I have also experienced direct prejudice because of my wheelchair. I realize that as a percentage of population people in wheelchairs are not a large portion of our society, but it seems that we are forgotten in every conversation about prejudice in the world.
But I think the question is what good does you thinking about your "privilege" do? I don't get the purpose of talking about it. It feels like the intent is to make sure the "privileged" people feel guilt or shame. But firstly, in many cases that is unfair because said people like yourself already have it hard enough. And secondly anybody feeling guilt doesn't fix any of the problems of inequality.
How often do you chide others for their "non-paraplegic" privilege? Because I'm sure that's far more of disadvantage than race. But I'm guessing you don't do that because other people feeling worse doesn't help you.
Disability, ableism and privilege of the non-disabled is often brought up in circles I'm in. It's definitely part of intersectionality, which is where privilege discussions are usually brought up. It's why we, as a society, have (mostly) agreed that wheelchair accessibility should be part of normal infrastructure and should be added when possible or accommodated in some other reasonable way when possible. I'm sorry you don't feel it's brought up enough in more broad ways like TV shows; it absolutely should be.
Joe, the good it does is feeling empathy (not guilt!) for people who have different struggles than yourself. Empathy helps us try to correct problems in our society. Knowing Keith has issues with accessibility is why people have mostly agreed we should have disabled parking spots, wheelchair access and various other accommodations to try and make life a little less hard on the disabled. Knowing he feels it's not brought up enough in comparison to other struggles allowed me to acknowledge his feelings are real and valid (which may not be much, but for some people acknowledgement feels a little better) and will make me more aware of when I go places whether they have accessibility options for people like Keith. I'm actually thinking of a shop in my downtown that I'm realizing has doors that are too narrow for a wheelchair; I don't know if they have another access option and can check on that. I think that's a city code violation if they don't. I have some power to help fix that. Keith won't personally benefit since I doubt we live near each other but someone else who's disabled might.
It is absolutely a result of my non-disabled privilege that I didn't notice this sooner. I don't feel guilt about that though. I just feel empathetic and a desire to help correct the situation in whatever way I reasonably can.
As far as the white privilege example being expressed around the one minute mark, I wouldn't just assume that white people don't get profiled by the police. From the time I was 15-19 I lived in a small white farming community in Southern Illinois, I was poor, and I was stop and frisked by local pd at least 30 times. Never got caught with drugs or charged with anything, but definitely got searched, breathalyzer even tho I'm just walking around, and had 6 pocket knives confiscated. I understand that you are much more likely to be profiled by police for being black, but to assume all white people have a "Hey Jim" relationship with cops is false.
Agreed that was very hyperbolic.
15-19 year olds are definitely discriminated against too. But 15-19 year old black teens? It's just another layer that makes it so much more likely to happen, and those experiences with the cops don't often end well for anyone...
@@michaelf8221 don't forget poverty. Poverty/class plays a big roll on police interactions too. Have a really old beater car in a nice neighborhood, guess who's getting pulled over on a pretext? It's not as bad as driving while black but it's definitely a close third, maybe second.
@@michaelf8221 yes, I understand that, I too have been "hands on the hood where I can see them" handled by the police, and trust me, I would have been just as fucked had I actually been caught with something and made my way into the judicial system. I acknowledge that its easier for police to profile minorities, I understand that statistically you are more likely to be profiled by the police being a POC, I'm just saying that let's not pretend that it is EXCLUSIVELY a minority problem, white people experience it too, and it might just be a problem with policing more than "all cops are just racists".
That was age and sex related, not because you were white. Teenagers (especially boys) are a discriminated class with police as well. Always assumed to be doing bad things. Now imagine you were black on top of being a teenage boy who will be stopped for all three of those discriminated classes.
You are acting as if you were profiled for being white, but you weren't. Race is not the only thing discriminated on in the US. It's often one of the topics discussed because it's one of the most visible, but that doesn't mean anyone's pretending it's the only thing police (and other systems in the US) discriminate based on.
It's very hard for people to understand and emphasize with someone else's lived experiences, and it's easier to ignore the problem altogether.
As an anglophone living in Quebec, I've experienced discrimination first hand as the province constantly pushes the French language and there's a segment of the population who will absolutely refuse service or look down on you if you don't speak in their native tongue. But that discrimination only exists for me when I speak in certain situations with certain people. It doesn't exist 100% of the time, nor is it compounded by other factors like gender or colour. And I've also had opportunities to work on learning the French language to avoid those situations.
People of colour, women, and LGBTQ members can't change who they are, so the only solution is for everyone else to learn to respect them and make space for equal opportunity. I'm hopeful that younger generations will eventually replace the old guard and establish new norms that makes everyone feel comfortable.
Language has a clear practical function. Race is a d*mb point of view.
@@stnbch3025 still should not be discriminated on. See also Pakistan and Bangladesh. As a Pakistani-American, it was totally Pakistan's fault for pushing Urdu on people whose language never resembled it. Its worse because Urdu wasn't even the native language of most of West Pakistan, it was only native for us Mohajirs(immigrants from India). Aga Khan III even tried to set Arabic as the official language when almost no one speaks it in any part of Pakistan.
I've lived stigma and discrimination based on my mental health, and often run into people saying "well I deal with discrimination too"
One thing they didn't touch on, because they were talking about the big issues, was microaggressions. The little digs that can sometimes on the face of it look like a compliment, but have roots in prejudice. Example: "You're sp well spoken!" Can often have an unspoken but clearly heard and felt "For a black person" tacked to the end of it.
To me it feels like someone complaining to their friend about their deadly peanut allergy, and the friend replies that they get sniffles from hayfever every spring as if it's the same thing. Or someone being bitten by a mosquito once or twice a season thinking they understand the experience of a person who gets stung dozens or hundreds of times a day.
race is a social construct
White people are not saying "Oh, Jim!" And walking past. No. The problem is, young black men tend to live in urban environments. Urban environments are sometimes gang war zones. Police policing these war zones are sometimes on edge, and yes the negative police encounters are the stories that make the news. Notice, the everyday mundane police encounters do not make the news. So 1.) It's a condensed population issue. 2.) It's a story the media selects issue. 3.) It's never hearing about innocent white men that die at the hands of cops because that would break "the police hunting black men" narrative.
Tony Tempeh was a white man who died the same way as George Floyd. On police cam. Available to be seen on yt. Nobody gives a shit.
y'know, getting catcalls on the street and being unsafe after dark... is also a cultural/crime problem. we don't have that in most east asian cities, and i'm guessing neither in western european cities.
it happens in europe also...but its not a systemic problem. its just seen as rude, and rude ppl exist sadly in all walks of life.
It happens in Europe and even in Asia. Asian women have complained about harassment when walking and so has European women, even in the love streets of Italy. The frequency of which it happens might change and the form, even like how Japan has a lot of sexual harassment on trains, but it is a systematic worldwide problem.
@@ellissabetta5909 i guess we differ in the definition of "systemic".
systemic is when its seen as normal, like supposed to happen because how else should it be?.
its not. i would claim most people know its not normal and rude, but it still happens because rude ppl exist.
@@TNM001 It isn't rude. Don't conflate regular rudeness with harassment; they are different things. Yelling at someone because you are upset at something they did is rude; randomly yelling sexual innuendos or harassing random women is beyond that. And it is systematic because it is seen as normal for it to happen almost exclusively to women. It doesn't happen to men.so there is a normalization of harassment towards women.
There are plenty of systematic thibgs that are not seen as "visibly socially accepted" but society accepts it because we continue to let it happen.
@@ellissabetta5909 dont ever change the goalpost in a conversation to make your point.
nobody was minimizing racism. end of discussion.
there is no "system" behind catcalling btw...so i guess we are done here also according to you.
Finally… now connect the dots to compound interest and dynastic wealth
PLEASE.
...which only matters for an ever shrinking fraction of the population.
If you want to talk finances and bring racial/gender/whatever equality into it, be prepared to alienate a large number of people while playing right into the hands of said ever shrinking fraction of the population.
Why stop there? Let’s connect the dots back to the first civilizations 10, 000 years ago. If only they had made better decisions, we would not be in this mess right now. In fact let’s connect the dots back to the first humans 2 million years ago. If those bastards just stayed the way the were and didn’t evolve none of our problems would exist.
@@justmatt4227 Why be ridiculous, Matt?
@@G1Transformed You misspelled "woke".
It's time that we start talking about Jewish privilege.
How are the ratings Jon?🤭
low thats why he started uploading to youtube instead of keeping it on apple+ lmao cant stay relevant with one sided conversations.
Instead of these consultant like think tank discussions. Why not have like 5 rotating real working class people from around the country. Less pseudo intellectualism and more real discussions
Remember when John Stewart was funny?
No.
It's easiest to see privilege, in any form, when you don't have it. It takes a higher degree of introspection to see how what you take for granted can be advantageous to your life, and why others might wish for the same. I know that my life hasn't been easy, I'm a millennial who's low on the spectrum and has ADHD. Bad economy, brain doesn't work how I want it to, etc.
There's a difficult dichotomy where on one hand - The suffering of others doesn't invalidate your own suffering
While at the same time - There are others who have things a lot worse than me, who deserve understanding, compassion, assistance...
let me explain PRIVILEGE - when i go to JAPAN - i notice everything is made for Asian people - they prefer hiring asians, their government is run by asians... they have privilege
Same thing applies in black countries
ONLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE DENIED SELF DETERMINATION IN THEIR COUNTRIES aka "PRIVILEGE"
I struggle to balance those last two. I'm working on it every day. Lol.
So that's why black people don't see their black privilege.
There’s little more that brings me delight…
than those with “wealth”~> telling me how terrible “wealth” is.
This _round table_ is the epitome of what disgusts the majority of Americans.
Utter hypocrites🍺😒
@@MrBLAA If only Jon Stewart could figure out how to pay the reparations he claims he owes to black people, there is some INVISIBLE FORCE preventing Jon from doing it
This is sooooooo good!
Privilege is having steps removed for you, so that you can achieve goals easier… college entrance, college loans, quotas in the workplace… etc etc
Whites actively get barred from universities to take in unqualified blacks.
Jon's kosher whites are not barred of course
@CrazyNendo what are you talkin about?! It’s something like 7 out of 10 white college kids lie on their college entrance exams, when it asks about race… they’re doing so to qualify as “Protected Class” so they can receive benefits. And it MOST DEFINITELY still goes down today! I’ve worked for the city for 20+ years… till this day, they prioritize equality over qualifications. It’s all politics, always has been 🤷♂️
What’s the new obsession with the word “PRIVILEGE” ?!
Because people suck and they blame White people for their lack of progression in life.
Are you being sincere?
It’s using the word to express these life experiences that previously didn’t have a verbal shorthand. So everyone who is dealing with extra problems because of race, gender, etc, is excited because it makes it easier to talk about it. But I think the video brings up a good point that the word can be confused with people having “extra boost”, when what is actually meant is they have less sh*t to wade through, but it’s the word that caught on. I think it’s still best to define it at the start of a conversation if you want 100% sure everyone is on the same page.
New? Where you been the last 5 years?
Whats the new obsession with getting worked up over a word?!
I took a college course back when I was at Texas Christian University where the professor (an Asian American male) defined "White Privilege" as not having more advantages in life, rather having fewer disadvantages/discriminations in life (so opposite of what it sounds like). Essentially, in our country's history, White people (with few exceptions) have not faced the multiple generations oppression that most People Of Color (particularly African Americans) have faced, resulting in fewer disadvantages for them today. Sure, if you're a wealthy White person, you are better off than all average/poor people in the U.S., but if you're a middle class White person, you still have better chances to succeed in life because you don't have the systemic disadvantages that African, Asian, Hispanic, and Native Americans at a similar social class level have. Finally, when a person of color does become successful in the U.S., it isn't because of "Reverse Discrimination" as some White Americans argue, rather it is because they have managed to overcome the disadvantages that they faced that many of their White counterparts didn't have to face.
That sounds pretty racist.
@@benjaminshelton978 Mary had a little lamb would sound racist to you dear.
Your professor is wrong. Poor Black people and poor white people overcome financial disadvantages and become financially successful at about the same rate. The color difference comes in on the other end. Black families lose their generational financial wealth at a higher rate.
@@teishahickman2108 Did you just assume what my opinions are? Lol
@@benjaminshelton978 Tiptoe through the tulips honey.
What is an example of systemic racism in March 2022?
A anti white black guy guns down 18 people.in the NY subway and his anti white YT videos get ignored.
If he was white and posted neo nazi shit we would never hear the end of it
Need more of this group
Thanks for the convo! I've heard that privilege can be measured by what you don't have to learn to get through the day. So like not having to learn where the harassment happens, not having to learn how to tell doctors what they want to hear so you get medication, not having to learn how to keep quiet when you have a better idea, and on and on and on
That's another way of looking at it. I'm trying to gather all the ways to explain privilege to my white friends so that they understand it.
@@lynnhettrick7588 I hope you succeed! a pro tip: start by getting ur friends to imagine all the stuff that they don't have to learn as a white dude etc., deal with, hide from etc. and then tell them that's a privilege. It's the same strategy used to debunk anti-science people and it works better, maybe not great but it's the best we have for now.
@@rkmh9342 and Lynn Hettrick: Kudos to both of you for being a part of the solution! Thanks and good luck!
Extremely problematic comment. "Learning where the harassment happens" urr sure I guess. "Telling doctors what they want to hear so you get medication" is malingering, and will reduce any doctor's ability to help you. Stop. And "keeping quiet when you have a better idea" is the dumbest thing I've heard all week, speak up for fucks sake, if you have something useful to add.
As a white person id just like to confirm to you guys that all white peoples are racist. Even the ones who seem nice when you talk to them are actually judging you in their head. It’s simply just built into our DNA. I’ve been trying to get rid of my racist thoughts for years, but they just never go away. Unfortunately I give up and just accept the fact that it’s just who we are as white people. Every time that I think I’m finally getting over my racist tendencies, other white people will talk me back into it. Even white babies are racist before birth, it’s a scientific fact that’s been proven. When we see other fellow white people, we often do subtle hand signals or dog whistles to each other in order to confirm that we both believe in the standard whiteness ideology.
The dude said he doesn’t know what it’s like to have privilege. Do you understand how much of a privilege it is to be born in America. There are people living on less than a dollar a day in dirt poor countries wishing they could have the standard of living that we take for granted every day.
@@PTV69420 For starters if you’re saying what I said is a strawman argument then you’re incorrect.
Secondly I can barely understand what you just wrote. In fact I have no idea what point you were trying to make. I would rephrase what you said.
@@PTV69420 you didn’t really respond to anything he said, being in the United States itself is a privilege.
@@PTV69420 Europe like Hungary? I’d assume you wouldn’t like that comparison. Like Ukraine? No. Like Britain who left the eu? Like Greece and their almost hyperinflation? How about any Eastern European country outside of Estonia?
@@PTV69420 we are the reason Europe exists in the state it does today by the way.
this is a white privilege circle jerk right here... If you can't understand that there is a difference between what a black woman experiences and a white man experiences on a daily basis in a very general sense in America on a normal day then you need to step the fuck out of the argument. Don't come at people with the "At least you aren't starving in Africa!" bullshit. That's an entirely different discussion. You don't look smart, you look smarmy and ignorant.
the forced laughter is unsettling
Clapping seals in a circus.
They over do it to the point of it feeling sinister.
I said this on another video too but Jay in particular always seems to fake laugh at literally everything.
I'm gonna guess you're a white male...
This should be a PSA. Well explained without being accusatory. Brilliant.
That's subjective.
I see a bunch of privilege at that table
Yeah if I was trying to illustrate privileged people, I would show a picture of these idiots getting paid to laugh at John Stewarts bad jokes.
A ton of privilege at this table lol its crazy that people in positions of actual Privilege try convincing us poor people how privileged we are lmao like what the fuck
Jewish privilege
That's why they're talking about it?
When you live in a zero-sum culture, as every American does, you expect that one person's winning is someone else's losing. It's automatic, it's in your bones. It does not matter what side of the ledger you are on, this is the transaction model that guides your life. As long as Americans continue to live by this creed, nothing will fundamentally change.
Asia for Asians, Africa for Africans, WHITE COUNTRIES ARE MELTING POTS THAT BELONG TO EVERYONE BUT WHITES!
Clearly a zero sum for Whites.... but they are waking up to the anti-white scam
Capitalism is inherently zero sum. There are a finite number of jobs, a finite number of college openings, a finite number of homes, and on and on the list goes. One person getting accepted into college means someone else was rejected. Invariably this leads to resentment between groups of people, especially when it can appear as if someone gains an unfair advantage because of their physical appearance.
It'll change. Hispanics will be majority
@Bob Bob attitudes like yours is why they burn cities
Lol that is an actual joke I assume or you have decided to show actual prejudice by saying every American thinks a certain way. The close minded opinion of avery young and naive person it what your statement looks like.
You need to read Thomas Sowell's "Discrimination and Disparities"
Someone who compared people who think there is systematic racism to Joseph Goebbels? I don’t think so
I love how these Americans complain about not having equal privileges in America when the average American is wealthier than 99% of the rest of the planet .
And the Americans in this room are wealthier than 75% of Americans
Once you feed a stray cat, you'll never get rid of it.
Exactly 👏👏👏👏👏 let's be real, just living in the usa is a privilege.
@Mekehl math is hard, yeah?
Divisive and counterproductive.
Ppl who typically love Jon Stewart hate this version of him when he talks about race. But that shows their own racism. He's still the same guy, just now making you feel uncomfortable about your own biases and maybe what your nana and pop pop did in the 50s
These people are the definition of privilege.
These people are clowns. Not to be taken seriously. They are the problem! Let's talk ACHIEVEMENT, not privilege.
no, pretty sure you are the problem. Privilege needs to be talked about.
@@ellissabetta5909 No . Black skin doesn't entitle you to privilege.
@@jaygold4467 and that ladies and gentlemen, is the thought process. Foxing the inequality is seen as privilege to those who never have any intentions or desires to be equal.
We don't have racial Communism in the U.S. Equal opportunity doesn't guarantee equal racial outcomes.
@@jaygold4467 if onlh the opportunites were equal....but they arent. Like i said, you care more to talk and dismiss than LISTEN. That is your perogative
Omg, he gets it! As a black woman, I have to do so much in order to be safe, to grow, to be happy, I have so many obstacles that makes it so hard.
who are u worried about? Racist white men attacking u in the streets? do u live in the real world? 60% of homicides are committed by black men and whites are the most attacked when it comes to interracial crime
@@cman8464 you said alot of nothing buddy. The point that I making is that it is very hard for me being a blk and a woman and you gasligthted everything I said proving my point. Gaslighting has made me unsafe and vulnerable. So my point stands and your gaslighting just proved it😒
@@shyvixx1 "facts are gaslighting"
@@cman8464
"Something to consider when debating blacks is that arguments based on arithmetic are likely to mean very little to them. I well remember a radio debate with a black about crime, in which I pointed out that blacks are more likely than whites to be charged with hate crimes. He laughed dismissively and, to my surprise, said he had the FBI hate crimes report with him ... He triumphantly read out that blacks committed only 22 percent of hate crimes, while whites committed more than 60 percent. After a few minutes of trying to explain that this figure proved my point - that 22 percent is greater than the proportion of blacks in the population - I gave up. A surprising number of whites have trouble understanding any kind of per capita argument; for most blacks, it might as well be quantum theory."
Jared Taylor "Arguments for Our Side"
@@shyvixx1 "Gaslighting" is a good deal more than just lying. Check the definition on Google (if you know how).
Thank you Thank you for releasing these free on UA-cam. apple tv+ is not affordable for me and I LOVE this show. Even if only a portion of the show is available, I'll watch it twice.
Nailed it (normal for everyone)
I think that everyone, anywhere, is going to kill me and I have soul crushing anxiety about leaving my house… and, yes, I still have privilege (regardless of the color of my skin). Everybody is human. Treat each other like they are human. That's it.
Wow. Sad life 🤡☝️
@@zoobrizz I think it's sadder to kick someone when they are down. It says a lot about your life. I hope you have a better one going forward. Hopefully your big top career takes off.
@@tuckerbugeater What kinda fuckin troll acct is this? tin foil head ass
Damn! I wish every conversation about race could start and end like this EPISODE. IF ONLY! Nonetheless, we'll take these bits and pieces of freedom to "imagine better."
Well these are all like minded people who are willing to listen. That round table Jon had with that Andrew person is more how these conversations go with some debate-lord Andy spouting about logical fallacies, demanding that everyone else has the burden of proof even for things that are self evident, playing the victim by pretending their feelings are hurt, and throwing out "facts" that are not only racist but have been debunked a million times.
@@PyroX792I can't agree with you more-#WeAreOurNationsWorth. Perhaps my "imagine better" is a deliberate intent to use the one-drop rule for exclusion as a form of inclusion: One conversation like this a week should help us pass the great divide of claims made about imaginary loss if we agree on some fundamental reality of rules, laws, and systems of pre-planned white supremacist discrimination that is the foreverness of our great divide. If you live Black or Brown long enough, you realize that you can't hate another human in any serious search for freedom-harmony-love. You can only hate the racist ignorance the human claims as dense armor against the human that we all are. We, every one of us-we are the only constant to every purpose achievable, in spite of obstacles. And I have checked with every god before making that statement. And yes, they all agree to wait and watch what we are willing to do for ourselves beyond imagining better. So, there is that. We are our nations' worth. #Worth2Worth
@@PyroX792 The burden of proof falls on whoever is making claims . Andy may have been wrong , but when he asked Jon to elaborate on what systems are perpetuating racism....crickets. A solid answer right then would've been great , but there isn't a solid answer . Generaly there's a disparity , and that's what is being labeled as systemic racism . It's obvious racism exists , it's also obvious it's negatively impacting people's lives , but how, who, and to what extent is it a factor? These things must be known to know what to do about it.
@@slo-poke1044 This is why "woke" is a religion, not a theory. It requires blind faith.
Tucker is better at scaring them the way the GOP needs.
I’m Mexican
This is the most racist dialogue I’ve ever heard.
No white person has ever held me back. You know who did? People with the same skin as me.
We don't talk about that it doesn't fit the narrative shh
John Stewart has gone into DiAngelo territory, don't expect him to make any sense on the issue of race.
@Tyler B I think someone stole your horse (brain)
Well said, Tyler B. It’s not just about me or you. It’s a system. Acknowledging that racism is real is the first step toward eradicating it. Denial means we all suffer-including white folks.
@@bostonterrierfanatic9652 I think you need a sober brain to comprehend the subject matter.
5:40 It was Ross. Ross was the WORST.
It’s amazing to watch Jon Stewart work. His wit is amazing. The way he jumped in with “… just after the Italians”. Then his analysis is something else. The perspective that minorities have to add extra steps to get to normal is what many may not understand.
America, nay the world, has a treasure in this guy.
Very true. I was sad when he left the Daily Show. it was nice to see such intelligence and passion.
Ya John is a national treasure. Hopefully every country on earth refuses to transact in the dollar. The look on your faces would be priceless for you to see you have no purchasing power. You can join the club. Suddenly we will koombiah in tandem.
I'm very happy that Jon has put in the work, looking in the mirror at himself, to see what he had been clueless about and then educating himself. He wasn't always aware of his privileges but by listening to women and POC, he's learning. So glad he's using that privilege for good.
He's repeating generic left wing talking points on race. They've been saying this stuff for nearly a decade. He isn't that smart.
@@funkydanieluk Thank you for showing everyone your ignorance. It is very enlightening.
I like these roundtable sessions
why?
💖 Struggle sessions with Jon Stewart 💖
This fascinates me. This discussion is a complete departure from Martin Luther King's dream of a colourblind society.
Martin was the cataclyst for all this anti white shit.
He was financed and propped up by the same tribe of Jon
That was not his dream. Read his books.
@@Erin_Bee It was what he inspired in millions of americans and it is enshrined in the civil rights act anyways.
@@scytale6 then you and the millions misunderstood. Dr. King never uttered the words colorblind. Nor should it be necessary. Why should one have to make themselves blind to my skin color to treat me fairly? Also, he was murdered when he was working on the poor people’s campaign which included white and black folks.
@@Erin_Bee If you treat people with different skin colour differently then that isn't colour blind.
Enjoying the clips. Now where's the whole episode? I know it's on apple TV, but I don't do apple TV, UA-cam is my jam.
It's Chandler.
These writers'-table conversations are really brilliant and my fav part of Jon's show!
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@Live Truth except am not Hebrew 🙄 and your name is not a name 🤷🏿♂️!
In the year 2345 aboard a spaceship circling a distant planet there is a black astronaut complaining that he was passed over for a promotion due to systemic racism and the ongoing legacy of slavery.
We've reached level of woke-ism not thought possible
The flip side of white privilege, is black entitlement.
I'm an older white male. Part of the issue around discussing privilege is, we discuss it the wrong way around. If I get pulled over, I'm only worried about getting a ticket. That's not privilege. That's expected. Maybe, instead of saying white people are privileged (many clearly aren't), we should be emphasizing the under-privilege that black people face. I know this is semantics, but words matter.
I'm black and I find that tone demeaning! Dont do the crime and dont do the time. Hanging out in the wrong places with the wrong people has negative consequences. Black or white!
Do you really think black people should be worried about anything other than getting a ticket? Really? Don't tell me you believe all the crap about police hunting blacks...
I agree. They just came up with this "dismantling white privilege" BS recently. Before that, the talk was more common sense and about helping the disadvantaged. Privilege means "special". Being white in a majority white nation is not special, it's normal. Those that get BETTER than normal treatment are privileged. Those that get WORSE than normal treatment are disadvantaged.
life is sooooooo much harder in every way when your poor
Shocking.
I'm a poor white guy
@@JohnnyNada a privilege poor white guy
Of course it is but do you notice how unifying what you just said is because you didn't mention race.
@@MAKD88 the rich want us divided by race.
If poor black people and white people are fighting over who has the most privilege...they won't notice the rich black and white peopel with all the real privilege.
Poverty comes in every colour
Poor white people and wealthy black people are always left out of this conversation.
@@alan.smitheeee exactly.
Literally a poor white person is literally still more wealthy than a poor black person
@@sheridanparker264 and why is that, you can’t just assert racism another example of racism of the gaps.
@@sheridanparker264 It depends on how much they each make and own. Poor white people usually don't pass down any inherited wealth (money or property) despite the 'anti-racist' rhetoric.
"Let's have a conversation". What a bunch of drivel. What does that even mean?
Basically means shut up and let me lecture you and if you question anything I say, you're just expressing white fragility and white defensiveness about your white supremacy and white privilege.
They meant "Let's have a struggle session.".
Well, to a simpleton, it means you'll have to go find yourself a dictionary for starters.
"Competition to see who has it the hardest based on their gender and race!"
This problem seems eternal. Solution, is there one?
No. Endless cycle of victimhood courtesy of the democratic party
Real question: In the mind of white Americans, why does this issue of race keep popping up?
I would think that if it keeps coming up, there must be a problem.
Oh man Jon is lucky to that UA-cam hid down votes.
and they are also hiding a HUUUUGE number of comments
@@kfleming78 It's ridiculous.
Because a bunch of whiney man babies are upset because they're too inept to understand simple concepts?
Y'all are the reason they hid the dislikes
I don't know a single person who just waltzes by police without a care in the world. Every cop sighting is like encountering a bear in the woods. It has the potential to end you, and there's next to nothing you can do about it except hope it doesn't get aggressive.
In Australia people can walk around police the problem is that law enforcement is infiltrated by white nationalists
You live a very sad life.
@@luciferthedoberman8991 brainwashed tool
So all those videos of White People just bringing the cops into situations where it isn't necessary is just them calling on that old bear...FOH.
Victim mentalities are self inflicted.
The problem with defining "normal life" of whites as privileged is that it just is wrong semantically. This is because there are three levels of privilege. There is underprivileged, there is neutral, and then there is privileged. Historically, we label the poor and oppressed as underprivileged, the wealthy elite as privileged, and normal middle class as neutral, meaning neither privileged nor underprivileged. That breakdown has worked fine for discussion for a century.
However, some one decided "Gee, the more whites we can call privileged, the better." So they decided to change this all up. Now, according to Jon, the white middle class are "privileged" and so I guess that means blacks are neutral? So who's underprivileged? And what are the wealthy elite, double-privileged? It just makes a semantic mess out of everything. And for what? So you can tell all white people "You are privileged. Feel bad about it!"
Why can't you just tell middle class whites, "Blacks are underprivileged when they must take extra steps to get to the same place in life, to enjoy the same things in life, as you. That's not fair." That's fine. That labeling system works. But calling everyone with a "normal" life privileged just does not work.
Consider this: My brother was born with birth defects and has always had a tougher time doing a lot of basic stuff. If we applied Jon's racial privilege terms to disability, then everyone without a disability is there by "privileged." I'm not saying people without disabilities are not better off than people with disabilities, but here's how the labels work: Disabled people are disadvantaged physically. People without disabilities are physically neutral. People with super-powers or some special physical skills are physically advantaged. See how that works? You do NOT define the middle / neutral group as privileged because it just is bad semantics.
Whoever decided the only way we will get racial justice is if we change the labeling so that now anyone not disadvantaged by racism is going to be labelled "privileged," (and we won't worry about how to label the wealthy elite who are above the law because that would throw a wrench in this plan) was a moron. You know, when racial justice advocates gather to discuss how to try to advance racial justice and equality, you don't HAVE to clap and cheer for every suggestion they make. It is okay -- even better -- to think about the ideas objectively and call out the ideas that are b.s.
@Klere Zooi Exactly. If not being handicapped is NOT a societal privilege, then being white is also NOT a societal privilege. It makes more sense to speak of racial injustice and oppression as making blacks underprivileged / disadvantaged.
I do think, since this is a matter of semantics, it is possible to go ahead and use the modern labeling (blacks are neutral, whites are privileged, wealthy elites are super-privileged or whatever). However, the reason this makes less sense, apart from the fact that it drops the concept of underprivileged from the language and forces us to create a new word for the super privileged (i.e., those truly privileged), it simply is bad marketing. The majority of whites living their middle class (sometimes lower middle class) lives have an understandable defensiveness over anyone trying to label them "privileged." Ultimately, these people might agree 100% with the end goals of racial equity, and might support all reasonable proposals to get to that point, but if you drive them away so they don't even get to that point by calling them "privileged" and then insulting them for being defensive about being called "privileged," you have just stalled the whole racial equity movement by going off on some tangent to justify some semantic language modification that is actually not even needed to achieve the end goals.
In short, if it does not actually help solve the problems, don't try using it as a solution. Changing the meaning of "privileged" in order to call all whites "privileged" does not help solve racial inequities, so why do it?
Similarly, re-defining "racist" to mean all white people (rather than just people who believe their race is superior to others, which is what it historically has meant for centuries) is ill-conceived, drives away "on the fence' whites who could very well be allies in fixing racism but for their defensiveness at being labelled racists themselves. Who does that help?
white christian americans: "we are immoral because we have sinned"
also white christian americans: "we are not immoral because racism doesn't exists"
I've found that if you assimilate, then opportunities and resources will simply emerge with very little effort. When I was a rebellious kid and said fuck this and fuck that and blamed my problems on a broken society, I was rejected and I got very few opportunities to get ahead of the game and struggled for resources and equality. I made my life hard. Assimilate and become equal. Get in the game.
I don't think me calling someone a racist means I think they are immoral, although for some racist that is the truth, but me calling a white person in general a racism means that you continue in and support the very things that keep life from being good for me. All the things I need are accessible, but that racist behavior that you don't even acknowledge at times, becomes a brick wall to me accessing those things that make life equal for me.
I'd love to get behind this but my gf can't go to the store right next to our house without being harassed by BLACK dudes commenting on her body while she stands in line, and I get my job of 13 years threatened by taking me to hr for trying my best to train new black co worker. I can be nice all day but I still need to tell you when you're doing something wrong and tell you how to do it right. It got so bad me and others left the department and now the minority folks there just hate and tell on each other.
@@whiskeydevil4970 black guys can be very complimentary to a fault. Your girl is no doubt flattered, but won't tell you that. And your hr department has failed you if you're a trainer and they haven't provided you with training. The psychology of work is that all people have a learning preference for example, I learn and retain information best if I am told what and how and why to do something while I actually have hands on. If you're doing the hands on and explaining too, I'm going to be lost. And I will let you know that Black people know that's one of the many strategies white people in a work place use to retain the power and upper hand over us. You see, if I have hands on and you're explaining while I do the work if you leave any information out, the task will probably not work and then you'll have to acknowledge you left some key information out. 😉 that kind of racism is a hindrance to blacks progressing on jobs. So don't feel pity for yourself, acknowledge your shortcomings in the form of racism and be better at life.
tell us what is not accessible to people of color in America please do telt? This victim mentality has to stop everyone's starting to sound like fucking babies lmao Nobody wants to stop you from obtaining anything in life if you want it bad enough then earn it like everyone else period. I don't know a single person that wants to stop anyone from succeeding in this nation.