@@megarooster99 Ever since Ben said “That does not rock” to Bhanu, that phrase has been front-of-mind. And yeah, Maria did play this situation badly. She talked down to Ben. He now knows Maria is not with him. If he’s a savvy player, which he doesn’t seem to be, he would be looking to get Maria out. Maria should have told him she wanted to work with him even if she didn’t. That way she could have a number when she needed it. Very poor gameplay from her.
wow this moment of Ben really connects with the vulnerable side of our humanity so deeply. especially when he expressed it by taking it out of the game and back in real life, it makes the listeners to realize and connect to his feeling so easily.
Huh. No it isn't. No such thing as a pure heart, especially for anyone who applies to any reality show. They already seek attention by being on TV. Not very pure.
@@RA-hx9ucThat's a pretty cynical take. There are a lot of reasons to want to be on the show, and not all of them are bad. It's always hard to read motives, but overall Ben seems like a genuinely nice guy
I don’t like this side of Maria. She comes across as a cop interrogating a suspect that just wants a confession without actually listening to anything the suspect has to say in their defence.
I love how there's no consideration for the fact that the idol might've went out with EITHER of the other two Siga players that already left the game, if Maria had this little faith in Tim & Ben why'd she ever side with them in the first place? 😂
Seriously! And if Maria was supposedly closer to Moriah and Gem than any of the men were, then why is Maria so bad at figuring out what Gem and Moriah were up to?
I love how Tim just straight up called out Gem on her idol. He didn’t ask if it was her, he just asked her point blank why she did it. Bro was completely onto her lmao.
Maria's biggest mistake is treating Ben like he's Jelinsky when there's a DECADE IN AGE BETWEEN THEM, one of them is still an actual child while the other is an actual adult, I guess it's hard to see anyone as a contemporary when you're over a decade older than the second oldest player left though
Maybe that’s it. May be she saw Tim as her contemporary because he is also a parent and sees Charlie more like an older version of one of her sons. Is Liz close to her age? I have heard Liz mention her daughter.
@@inalltheirgorgeouscolors8091 Liz is the second oldest player left, but she's only 35 and that's still a pretty big age gap between her and Maria, also I just looked at the ages and apparently Tim is YOUNGER then Ben at only 30, which just blew my mind because they do not come off as being the same age at all 😂
@@TheDXJC56 people who choose to become parents before the age of 30 are usually over serious people. Ben is a musician and a free spirit who wears his heart on his sleeve, and some people like you view that as immature. That’s my opinion as a childless 35 year old.
@@Emile.gorgonZolashe was completely wrong in her assessment of Ben’s behavior and motives. Totally incorrect. But her shortsightedness will be to her own detriment at some point.
Yeah, I rally felt for Maria one episode earlier when Venus was talking down to her. And I thought Maria’s response and calling her out was justified. This was mean though and it’s really soured my view of Maria. She is telling on herself-she said in the first episode she was willing to lie and cheat and do whatever it takes to win, and she is projecting her own motivations onto people who aren’t nearly as cunning as she is.
This was pretty informative. Everyone seems to be playing hard except Ben. Plenty of time for things to change but this short clip is basically why I love watching this show.
Maria’s logic just doesn’t make sense. Okay, Tim was Ben’s number 1. Why can’t Maria and Charlie be 2 and 3? And when Tim goes, they move up to 1 & 2. I don’t think that’s weird logic.
I feel so bad for Ben here, and I relate to his soft side. I can’t tell a convincing lie either. I hate it. I would not be any good on Survivor. I don’t think Ben will win, but I hope he goes far. He could be the guy that they keep around because people think he isn’t savvy enough to win, but he isn’t nearly are annoying and difficult to work with as Venus.
So just because Tim was his number one, it means he wasn't Siga strong? Siga has been his only alliance this whole time. Maria should know that as she's secretly alligned with the others. Bad gameplay to not pick up a number to keep options open and be so dismissive. I get that she's paranoid, but why so sure that Ben is the one who lied about the beware advantage :/ Strange.
While I feel like Maria is wildly out of line and obviously mistaken, to her defense I think she is just taking a hardline like she did Jelenski at the journey because in her mind it works.
I wish this scene with Ben made the proper episode. Maria not believing that he's telling truth is hard to watch. But one has to ask...why is Ben not trying to work with the other outcast Venus?
Because Venus is impossible to work with. She wants everyone to do things her way and praise her for genius ideas 🙄 she takes any pushback or disagreement from the other players as proof that they hate strong, young women and can’t see how smart she is 🙄🙄🙄 She’s insufferable to be around and so bad at persuading people that Tiff has already suggested bringing her to the end as a goat.
This makes me see Ben in the same way as Jake last season. He's (one of) the most likeable people out there, but doesnt really have anyone with him and will ultimately be a 0 vote finalist, despite having to claw through on his own.
Literally chooses not to trust Ben over speculation. My trust is not easily "doled out" is false. You trusted Ben at one point and you pulled that trust away because you were misinformed. If Maria knew the correct information, there would be trust there, to treat Ben poorly because of SPECULATION is a sign of a psycho!
She didn't treat him poorly. Every single contestant on every single season on every single version of Survivor speculates. It's literally how you play the game.
He’s a human…who has emotions…who’s been living in a beach playing a cutthroat and lonely reality show for weeks now…the other comment is right- toxic lol
Maria’s treatment of Ben does not rock.
Tbf she didn’t mistreat him at all, she was just misread the situation badly. Although you probably just wanted to make a rock pun lol
@@megarooster99 Ever since Ben said “That does not rock” to Bhanu, that phrase has been front-of-mind.
And yeah, Maria did play this situation badly. She talked down to Ben. He now knows Maria is not with him. If he’s a savvy player, which he doesn’t seem to be, he would be looking to get Maria out. Maria should have told him she wanted to work with him even if she didn’t. That way she could have a number when she needed it. Very poor gameplay from her.
@@davidhelvering yeah she was too forward with her mistrust of him.
Ben is the human equivalent of useless damp toilet paper on the ground at a truck stop
We all got you Ben! You are a terrific person. Never stop being you
Hope Ben ends up blindsiding Maria
As if Ben would ever have the power or strategy to do that
it wasn't a blindside but he got rid of her!
wow this moment of Ben really connects with the vulnerable side of our humanity so deeply. especially when he expressed it by taking it out of the game and back in real life, it makes the listeners to realize and connect to his feeling so easily.
Maria thinks she’s such a good player, what a joke
Here and Venus. It's hilarious
I mean she is playing pretty well
poor ben :,( his heart is too pure for the game
Huh. No it isn't. No such thing as a pure heart, especially for anyone who applies to any reality show. They already seek attention by being on TV. Not very pure.
@@RA-hx9ucThat's a pretty cynical take. There are a lot of reasons to want to be on the show, and not all of them are bad. It's always hard to read motives, but overall Ben seems like a genuinely nice guy
@RA-hx9uc I think a lot of people apply because they enjoy the show and want to play.
My nigha you don't even know Ben personally stfu@@RA-hx9uc
Ben is the most wholesome, truthful person. Maria thinking he's lying is a bit of a stretch.
I remember Ben comforting Maria when she was crying....
I don’t like this side of Maria. She comes across as a cop interrogating a suspect that just wants a confession without actually listening to anything the suspect has to say in their defence.
Jesus Maria’s social game sucks
I love how there's no consideration for the fact that the idol might've went out with EITHER of the other two Siga players that already left the game, if Maria had this little faith in Tim & Ben why'd she ever side with them in the first place? 😂
valid point, but I feel that she went with them for Charlie' sake. Him and Ben are close.
Seriously! And if Maria was supposedly closer to Moriah and Gem than any of the men were, then why is Maria so bad at figuring out what Gem and Moriah were up to?
I love how Tim just straight up called out Gem on her idol. He didn’t ask if it was her, he just asked her point blank why she did it. Bro was completely onto her lmao.
aww ben 😢 i feel you
Maria's biggest mistake is treating Ben like he's Jelinsky when there's a DECADE IN AGE BETWEEN THEM, one of them is still an actual child while the other is an actual adult, I guess it's hard to see anyone as a contemporary when you're over a decade older than the second oldest player left though
Maybe that’s it. May be she saw Tim as her contemporary because he is also a parent and sees Charlie more like an older version of one of her sons. Is Liz close to her age? I have heard Liz mention her daughter.
@@inalltheirgorgeouscolors8091 Liz is the second oldest player left, but she's only 35 and that's still a pretty big age gap between her and Maria, also I just looked at the ages and apparently Tim is YOUNGER then Ben at only 30, which just blew my mind because they do not come off as being the same age at all 😂
How is she treating him like a kid though?!
@@TheDXJC56 people who choose to become parents before the age of 30 are usually over serious people. Ben is a musician and a free spirit who wears his heart on his sleeve, and some people like you view that as immature. That’s my opinion as a childless 35 year old.
Valid@@inalltheirgorgeouscolors8091
“This was all just a ruse that were bonded by”
Yes that like is very life tied and hits for sure I feel like we've all been there at one time or another sadly.
@@HMPstaff... they meant the irony of how that applies to Jem to
@@Emile.gorgonZola yea def
He's just a soul whose intentions are good... oh lord, please don't let him be misunderstood :´(
Perfect summation!❤
Musician Ben would appreciate this.
Baby boyy i relate so much to him!! i want him to win
Wow this actually completely changed my opinion on Maria. I don’t like her approach at all. You just don’t talk to people like that
she didn't do anything wrong
@@Emile.gorgonZolathe way she assumed things and was kinda a bit aggressive I could say when she talked to him
She thought he had the idol. It shows how Jems ploy had ramifications
@@Emile.gorgonZolashe was completely wrong in her assessment of Ben’s behavior and motives. Totally incorrect. But her shortsightedness will be to her own detriment at some point.
Yeah, I rally felt for Maria one episode earlier when Venus was talking down to her. And I thought Maria’s response and calling her out was justified. This was mean though and it’s really soured my view of Maria. She is telling on herself-she said in the first episode she was willing to lie and cheat and do whatever it takes to win, and she is projecting her own motivations onto people who aren’t nearly as cunning as she is.
This was pretty informative. Everyone seems to be playing hard except Ben. Plenty of time for things to change but this short clip is basically why I love watching this show.
Maria’s logic just doesn’t make sense. Okay, Tim was Ben’s number 1. Why can’t Maria and Charlie be 2 and 3? And when Tim goes, they move up to 1 & 2. I don’t think that’s weird logic.
I feel so bad for Ben here, and I relate to his soft side. I can’t tell a convincing lie either. I hate it. I would not be any good on Survivor. I don’t think Ben will win, but I hope he goes far. He could be the guy that they keep around because people think he isn’t savvy enough to win, but he isn’t nearly are annoying and difficult to work with as Venus.
I swear if Bhanu wins the Sia money over Ben this season I am canceling Christmas!
🤣🤣🤣
Ben is my new Rupert. Loove this guy❤🤘
I bet Maria feels REEEALL stupid right now to find out she was hounding poor Ben about the idol when all along it was Jem that tricked her
Poor Ben
Man I love Ben… I really hope he wins
i love Q. not sure what happened at this tribal council tho 😂😂
Bro Ben ain’t gonna win. He has played the worst game and doesn’t have what it takes to win this game.
@@SjR-ob3tn you’re right. especially if he doesn’t have Tim. he’s gonna have to try to work with Kenzie or Tiff
They wouldn’t have cut this scene if Ben was going to win.
Hahahaha
I love Ben! This hurts my heart so much how mean Maria is!
Damn dude. Pulling for Ben after seeing this. That guy is great!
Maria and Liz make me sick. If either of them win, I'm done with survivor .. again lol
I REALLY gotta remember to watch these scenes after every episode, I always forget there's secret scenes posted. I wish I could be notified about them
Maria is playing her mom card too often. The way she speaks to Ben is like he’s her subordinate or child
Does feel like if Ben was gonna win this would've made the edit 😭
100
So just because Tim was his number one, it means he wasn't Siga strong? Siga has been his only alliance this whole time. Maria should know that as she's secretly alligned with the others.
Bad gameplay to not pick up a number to keep options open and be so dismissive. I get that she's paranoid, but why so sure that Ben is the one who lied about the beware advantage :/ Strange.
Liz does't even give a shit about drawing her torch (far left) on the tribe banner
I think this season does a good jod casting a diverse group of personalities that adds more layers to the experience.
While I feel like Maria is wildly out of line and obviously mistaken, to her defense I think she is just taking a hardline like she did Jelenski at the journey because in her mind it works.
I don’t know if the way Maria navigates these conversations is good for her game to be honest
imagine making ben cry
Maria must feel pretty bad now she knows that Jem had the idol. She was so sure Ben was lying.
Watching this after Maria didn't vote for Charlie is a lil different. Watching Charlie comfort Ben because of Maria knowing that will be him soon too
María, he can be one of your numbers. OMG!
This is a tough season for someone like Ben to be on, I feel for him!!!
I wish this scene with Ben made the proper episode. Maria not believing that he's telling truth is hard to watch.
But one has to ask...why is Ben not trying to work with the other outcast Venus?
I get the feeling that she's very hard to work with
Because Venus is impossible to work with. She wants everyone to do things her way and praise her for genius ideas 🙄 she takes any pushback or disagreement from the other players as proof that they hate strong, young women and can’t see how smart she is 🙄🙄🙄
She’s insufferable to be around and so bad at persuading people that Tiff has already suggested bringing her to the end as a goat.
Ben rocks🎉
This is heartbreaking 💔
This makes me see Ben in the same way as Jake last season. He's (one of) the most likeable people out there, but doesnt really have anyone with him and will ultimately be a 0 vote finalist, despite having to claw through on his own.
You have The Gift, Moe
Ben will always be my favourite survivor player
They call their tribe hope in Fijian but they also manage to be most hopeless tribe in maybe ten seasons.
Good cast this time
Why would they not show that scene with Ben?!?!?
My guess is Maria is a finalist, either winner, or final boss, so they don't want to make them look bad.
Why I feel Maria is so cocky and think that She now controls the game?I starting not to really like her,Ben is a good guy,hope he wins
and he still sides with her UGH
where did they get the paint brushes from?
From the producers
Must’ve made them from bones and animal hair. Or the production team
Whenever the tribes merge the producers give them paint and a new flag to design
Ben🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Maria is acting Debbie the gymnast. So cocky.
Maria is not cool
Ngl hope Ben goes soon lol
Americans say Fijian so different.
Literally chooses not to trust Ben over speculation. My trust is not easily "doled out" is false. You trusted Ben at one point and you pulled that trust away because you were misinformed. If Maria knew the correct information, there would be trust there, to treat Ben poorly because of SPECULATION is a sign of a psycho!
She didn't treat him poorly. Every single contestant on every single season on every single version of Survivor speculates. It's literally how you play the game.
It’s a game of deception, what do you want her to do? Not check if Ben is lying to her
I liked Maria, but her read on Ben is way off and mean. Dislike!!
Oh maria ate this
He almost cried as much as Bhanu
survivor needs to gtfo with all this fucking charlie content
Ben, man up. Ugh. What a baby. So glad he has no shot at winning.
toxic
Your a loser
He’s a human being too? He doesn’t like being treated like that like stop being so rude it’s just a game your nasty comments won’t help anything
He’s a human…who has emotions…who’s been living in a beach playing a cutthroat and lonely reality show for weeks now…the other comment is right- toxic lol
A lot of indicators point to him being the winner...
Maria should be a cop
She would be a horrible cop on the sole fact her reads are so shit actually nvm that would make her a good one