Australian Bass Fishing (NSW) | KAREN THREATENS to CALL POLICE on FISHERMEN
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Elijah and I take a trek in one of NSW most remote rivers in search for big numbers of wild Australian Bass! As we enter through a PUBLIC place we venture down the river for kms and kms walking through the river bed enjoying our day whilst having a few laughs and enjoying the fishing then we stubble across a lady who we thought was going to be really nice at first but told us we were trespassing and had to leave otherwise she was calling the police which is completely incorrect. We were in fact standing in the river bed at the time of approach (the bed is that any section which covered OR left bare with the increase of flows other than at times of flood) Directly from section 38 of the fisheries act. I hope this helps a lot of fishermen who do have encounters like this regularly. We need to take a stance in situations like this and continue moving on with our day. We decided not to let her know before hand that we would be going through this way because 1. Too early in the morning to be knocking on someones door and 2. We walk kms and km which would mean knocking on at least 4-6 doors…
If you would like a read for yourself here is the link and don't forget to screenshot ;)
www.dpi.nsw.go...
We had a good day in the end with a total of 75 bass! I hope you guys enjoy in the video :)
Our Gear:
Will:
Reel: Daiwa TD sol lll 2500
Rod: Daiwa TD Black Pinster 6'4 1.5-4kg
Line: Dawia J braid grand 8lb
Leader: Daiwa J-thread 10lb
Lures: Jackall Chubby in Black and Gold + HL Black
Elijah:
Reel: Daiwa Certate 2500s
Rod: Samaki Zing gen 3 1.5-3kg 6'10
Line: Siglon advanced 8lb
Leader: 10lb FC rock
Lures: Jackall Chubby in Ghost Gill + Black and Gold
I'm proud of you both. You were within the law, you stood your ground despite threats and you behaved like gentlemen. The 44 model was pretty cool too.
The Karen was older than 44 and no she wasn't attractive
@@5wisher5weet r u slow
Outstanding session guys. And outstanding standing up for your rights to be on public land - which is what the riverbed essentially is. Amazes me how people think they can take ownership of things they have no right to. It's getting worse all the time. The DPI in NSW have an access office online you can report land owners to and they do contact them. I did one last year and the DPI actually rang me to update me. Great vid, too. Cheers PP
Thanks mate! Yeah it is definitely getting worse so by putting these videos out I’m hoping more people see it and hopefully educates them! Oh okay, I didn’t know about that! I’ll be sure to use that for now on so thank you!
Hey guys for future reference it's fisheries management act 1994- sect 38.... you guys were completely in the right and handled the situation really well 👌🏽
Cheers mate! Yeah couldn’t think of it off the top of my head but yeah found it when I got home.
Where did you get the pic of where y8u are aloud to fish
@@markvicary3974 Hey Mark, Dpi put out a heap of information a while ago including the brochures/posters . You can search the act on their website or alternatively contact t them for the information. If you are wanting the poster itself a Google image search will produce.
Nice one, thanks for putting Farmer Karen in her place. I don't envy the guy on the horse when he tries to break the news that you were right to her.
The NSW Government should crack down on fences, jetties, wharves etc designed to stop people's access to the foreshore or riverbank. I'm over these fascist farmers claiming ownership of public lands.
Fascist indeed. Any significant waterway should also have publicly accessible easement on either side as well. Privately owned beaches and river banks should not be a thing.
Good on you fellas for 1-not allowing her to bully you into doing what she wants and 2 for doing your research and having it on hand as a screenshot on your phone.
I’ve been bass fishing for 11 years and the one lure that has never let me down is the rolling crank. It’s a great lure and you should definitely use it. Great video by the way.
Best thing to do is to always give your local land holders a call to give them the heads up, even though you may be within your rights to fish. 98% of the time they wont have any issue and youll find most will give you pointers on good spots or any hazards on the banks! Anyways great video, good river fishing 😁
How do you find their phone numbers and if they say no, then you can still go anyway, right ?
Awesome boys! Haha! More then welcome to take a photo, I love it! 😂👏
Well done man 75 bass in total! Crazy how people think they own the creek when in fact they do not!
Cheers mate! Was a great days fishing! Yeah it annoys me a lot but we have to take a stance and tell them otherwise!
Great session guys!! I’m amazed the amount of people who think they own the whole creek system.
Thanks mate! Yeah happens way too often still 🤦🏽♂️
@@wellplayedfishing7809 It does! It’s tough going SEQLD way to do this style of fishing.
You blokes are outstanding. When confronted poised, polite and erudite. Having the confidence to know that you were within your rights and clearly, calmly and confidently put your point of view won the day. A long time ago I was faced a similar situation. Unfortunately I didn’t have the presence that you both displayed even though I knew I was within my rights. That encounter affected me so much that I gave up fishing some favourite streams. It is unfair that landholders can block access to rivers and streams and prevent fisher folk from accessing them treating them as their own private domain. Rivers and streams belong to all of us !
Thanks mate, appreciate the kind words! That’s unfortunate about your situation, sometimes it effects others more and it effected me a fair bit when I ran into that other farmer last year but I eventually got over it and realised there isn’t anything they can do but yell at you and threaten you. But yes your right it is very unfair they treat fisherman like this because it plays on your mind for the rest of the day and kills the mood.
You don't even need to put your point of view across, if you are not doing anything wrong, just keep fishing, stop arguing with the idiots. Ignore morons.
good on ya for standing your ground. what an absolute Karen. we should all head there for a fish
Fantastic video dude, makes me want to make more videos and get out fishing more often. Watcihig those precise casts and precise editing is fantastic.
Hahah awesome mate standing your ground 😝 Karen had nothing else better to do that day 🤙🤙
Well done lads, knew your rights, explained them well and stood your ground
Great video to boys👍👍👍
Cheers mate!
You handled the situation well by keeping your cool well done guts why do Karens all think that there Mobile phone us some kind of secret weapon....nice Bass guys.
thanks guys . you reminded me of this law . I wasn't sure if it was still enforceable . looks like it is . good work !
Karren said she doesn't allow fishing on her property .I guess she does now that you also educated her on the law . Bloody good one !
lol great effort guys, some people don't actually know the law like you guys do and its great you stood up to what you believed is correct, often people who let down to false claim to law often gives the impression to Karen's like her to continue doing stuff like this and get away with it. nice fishing content 👌
Great fishing and handled that so well fellas.
Keep up the good work.
This looks like it was taken in the Paterson River at Lostock? I grew up at Lostock.
If it's the woman I think it is, who bought the property a few years ago from Sydney, she's done this before - in that instance she forced a local autistic teenager, who didn't know his rights, to walk out of her property in the middle of the waterway.
After his mother told me, I searched out the information you two used and provided that to her to give to her son.
I work in environmental assessments, so I know waterways are Crown land - meaning they aren't owned by the people whose property borders it. Most people don't know that.
So long as you access via the waterways (i.e. don't go through private property), you have a right to be there - fishing or otherwise.
Along the Paterson River, it's quite easy to do, you can access the river from the bridge below the Lostock Dam, without ever needing to enter private property.
Most people who act like this aren't true locals, they're people with money who have bought in recent years.
It is funny they put the fencing all the way into the river in this video, or maybe the flood washed the land off.
Well played bro's. "You are arguing with me." "Yes, because you're wrong."
The nerve of some people! I'm glad you stood your ground mate. I hope you caught plenty of fish in the section if the creek 🤣
Haha we sure do, right in front of them too 😂
Well done fellas. I'm struggling to work out which would be more fun for me.
That awesome sesh you gents had.
Or putting that Kuntren in her place👍😎
Definitely you were in the right guy's 👍 Nice Bass by the way😊🎣
Kicked Karren's butt 🤣🤣 With truths and fact, well done 👍
Well handled boys what a mole, good on you for staying calm and sticking up for your rights to fish
Great vid boys.
You handled that karen extremely well ✌🏼
Cheers!
Crackin session. Good to see you stood your ground nice and calm
It certainly was! Cheers mate, yes we weren’t
backing down on that one
This weekend, you, me, Chrispy wings, livin 4 adventure, Flick with Mick, Aussfish, BIIIIG collab on Karen Creek 👌
I’m so in on that!
🥊
Im bringing my cousins down
@@flickwithmick 😂😂 Gutho and Moses?
@@jtsnewfish3877 haynnne playnnneeee
Good on you gents for standing up to her!
I can’t find the courage to throw a jackall chubby and lose it hey!! Would have no issues arguing with a Karen but man losing a jackall frightens me
Cheers mate! Haha i do get nervous throwing them sometimes but if I do snag up I just go swimming now 😅
Awesome session mate!! So many people like that. Within 5m of any body of water is crown land. People like that have nothing else better to do with there life. Either way don't let people like that wreck a cracking day! 👊
Cheers mate! Yes way too many. This is the reason I share these videos to get it out more and educate people. Getting sick and tired of it. Yeah we talked about it after but we marched on and still caught plenty of fish!
@@wellplayedfishing7809 even then there heads are still up there ass 🤦♂️😅
Beautiful work
Why thank you
Well done boys. It always baffles me that Australia has such a huge land mass, you could be anywhere even remote and you will see a farmers fence. Some of the best rivers are within the confines of those fences. Don't know why they need such huge lands, they have nothing growing, I don't see any cattle, it's just barren land that they own. Such a waste to see lovely waterways trapped inside those fences, I'm not particularly keen to get into arguments with farmers but I do believe if farmers are not using huge lands then they should be a bit more accommodating to fishermen.
I had a raging farmer abusing me this at the Murray river ... chasing trout ! They are nuts mate ! Its funny how they think the river beyond's to them ! Fisheries stock the rivers and lakes not for the farmers and land owners to sell the experience to fisherman for a quick buck ! Good on you lads.
chasing trout...... now I know, we all love to chase fish.🤣
Nice one lads, Bloody Karen's who try and bully people !! Hey did the guy on the horse have a thumb print in the middle of his forehead ? 🤣
Good on ya fellas. I encountered a Karen just like this when I was about 10 fishing with my dad, I still get anxiety to this day when walking riverbanks waiting for a farmer to come raging out at me even when I know the law. Also encountered a lot of farm fences that go into the water which is BS. Surprised she didn’t try to say its a public liability issue Ibe heard that before
The one chain law!
Love to see some Murray cod videos mate. Loved the video mate
Planning to do a few cod trips this year! Cheers mate
Good on ya boys for standing up for yourself
Another awesome video mate keep them coming 👍🏽
Cheers mate! Going to pump out a few more creek bass sessions hopefully this season
@@wellplayedfishing7809 awesome mate can’t wait and that Karen woman Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣
Yes indeed. It is not actually the river BED that you can traverse. It is the COURSE. And that means within the BANK at it's uppermost level.
wicked footage boys 🤘🏽🍻
I love your videos will and I hope you will get a lot more subscribers by the end of the year
Thanks Josh!
Thanks will
Well handled and great vid.
Good on you boys for standing your ground! I bet she didn't call the police.
Cheers mate! No police showed up 🙄
Great vid boys🍺👍🏽unfortunately the world is full of Karen’s so don’t waste your energy arguing with them because they only want to hear their side of the story.
For some people enough is not enough for them they want every bloody thing . Good on ya lads well done I would lost it.
Kept your cool guys, way to go.
You boys handle that pretty well!
Good video, thanks for the link
Cheers mate. No problem 👍🏽
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Boy: "I want the police here now"
Women........ Drove off.😂
Is this the Allyn river? It looks like it, and I know a few landowners there try and pull this rubbish.
Cracking session mate. 👌 bloody Karen's...
Cheers man! Happens too often 🤦🏽♂️
Well done fellas
Good on ya boys, Dont let Karens ruin your fun
Well done guys.
Good video will
Good on yas, ya told her! 🤣😂
Good on you boys for standing up for your rights.
Appreciate it mate!
Great video sorry about Karen
So is she saying the boundary of her property changes as the water level rises and falls? Maybe property value increases during a drought
I had a flick the other week caught 40 bass in 3 hours but I was using a chatterbait average size was 30cm to tip and the largest was 48cm
That’s a solid effort mate, well done 👏🏽
The fact is yes you’re allowed to be there but it would be
Nice to get the property owners permission first because it is their land after all
The only problem is that I would be knocking on 3-5 peoples doors at 5am in the morning otherwise yes it would be a good idea too
@@wellplayedfishing7809 Plan ahead man it’s just decency man I see from your position and there’s
@@ar26roche14 you're plain wrong though.
It's literally not their property and it would be impractical to warn multiple farmers you might be fishing near their property.
It ridiculous.
Hopefully she gets charged for wasting police time.
Where is that at
We dont want to fish on your property.We are going to fish in our river..Goodbye
I forgot to ask what was the web site that had the info about the rule`s on fishing up Creeks Thanks mate
She owns that river. Messing with the wrong Karen there lads.
Seems like she does haha
@@wellplayedfishing7809 are you in nsw or qld mate, and is her river connected to a damn or natural system? I’m not trying to work out where you are , just find something similar close to me.
Not suggesting that you do what I have done however it might lessen the intensity of another similar situation. Present yourself to the local police and inform them of your daily plan. They are helpful and onside immediately. Simply because you took the time to introduce yourself. The upside of this is that when the disgruntled landowner threatens you with police you are not an unknown to them. Best to pre-empt by being proactive rather than on the reactive backfoot. Hope you never have that type of problem again. Enjoy the waterways that belong to all Australians.
I actually like this idea tbh. Thanks for the advice!
What lures where used to catch those stonkers
Jackall chubby 🤙🏽
Clearly some people think they own flowing rivers... Silly women..
Yes it’s quite amusing to be honest
What lures are the best for this situation
Jackall chubby are my favourite
It looks like Karen was looking for something else hey.. she was fishing too
Where about are you fishing if you don't mind me asking, I live in NSW and can't really find any good fishing spots
In the Hunter valley 👍🏽
hahaha.... funny Karen moment. well done.
grate vid
👍 Should have stood up to that tosser when you were Kayaking as well 👍
the first fish i cort was 46cm and it nealy pooled my rod in
good on ya boys for standing your ground against karen! welldone boys. sick of karens and you guys are not even catch and keep. you guys are purely fishing for fun catch and release so i dont understand why karen had the shits with you boys rofl.
Can you give me the closest location of where you were fishing
50m from the river bank.
I have a friend that has a property on the Ovens River, Victoria, with a fishing shack that his grandfather built in the 30’s. It’s now in crown land.( 50m from riverbank ) People can use the shelter no problem but touching his camping equipment and fishing stuff is a different issue. I guess we are trusting people to do the right thing..
I've fished there
You boys in NSW’s yeah?
Yep nsw mate
Yeah different rules up here and people get em confused. She thinks she’s a Queenslander 🤣
@@LiamFitzpatrick what's the go here in Qld? I just moved back here 2 weeks ago 😬 it used to be River bed and you could access a creek from a bridge no worries.
Walking the banks or in the creek on private property is a no go unless you have permission. You can access at public launch point in a kayak and fish in the creek or river put soon as you step out if you are on private property you are trespassing without permission. I have checked this with my mate at Fisheries and there is no crown land or any of the sort of thing up here. If you wanna fish a creek buy a box of beer and go door knocking, it’s how I’ve got some of my access. Some has come from meeting the right people and some came from joining my local stocking group.
@@LiamFitzpatrick that’s interesting to know. I’ve just edited the title to NSW so people don’t get confused. Thanks for the info mate 👍🏽
Where is this?
Hunter valley
Double check that legislation. The DPI summary isn't the law. Looks like your on private land in a number of those shots. Your fine where you were when the lady approached you but I doubt you got there without crossing private property. Doesn't matter what the river looks like in flood the legislation talks about regular and normal flow of the stream where vegetation doesn't grow. Your doing the right thing according to the DPI and she's entitled to think it's hers as the land survey would consider the middle of the river her property and they would pay rates on that land. Should be clearer really to prevent these situations.
Cheers for your opinion Kent but how would you know we crossed private property? You do realise we would swim through situations where it’s too deep when there is steep banks on the edge. No matter what I don’t think we could have prevented that situation it was always going to happen as she thought we couldn’t be there at all.
hahaha what if she had a gun and said get off my property:
Will: - ' were passionate fisherman i guess ull just hafta shoot me then' hahahha
see any snakes mate?
Hahah I’d literally be saying that too! Yeah nearly stepped on one 😬
@@wellplayedfishing7809 black or brown no way id be trekking in vans hahah hope you pack a snake it in ya backpack.
@@livin4adventure_aus584 looked like a brown or whip snake. Yeah I carry a snake bit kit in my backpack
Shame you didn't show her face. She'd given up all rights to privacy by the nature of her conduct. Similarly the location requires identification.
Whats your Pb bass
My PB is 51cm.
@@wellplayedfishing7809 how big do they get
@@pigsen6688 they can get up to 60cm but have heard of bigger 😬
Land owners are getting fed up, only takes one or 2 bogans and it ruins it for the rest of us.
I've been chased off a creek by a owner with a very bad temper and supposed stashed gun.
Always practice the law and a bit of practicality by camoflauge and better not to be seen.
Yeah I agree, I tend to try not be seen for now on so I can avoid these confrontations. So unnecessary and take up fishing time
Full on, that was a proper Karen alright. Wouldn’t listen to logic it reason, just trying to bully you to get some sort of feeling of power.
Maybe you wandered to close to the marijuana crops.
I agree and I definitely wouldn’t rule that out haha
I hate half educated people. I would have told her call them . But we are fishing see ya
Actually the river bank is council land you can be there but you can't go through private property to get there.
Yes that is correct. We entered through public access. If people are buying properties on the river I believe they should understand this law a lot better but I can understand if they have trouble in the past but that isn’t our fault
@@wellplayedfishing7809 I have property on the Macleay river and the only access is by boat and yes it's council land along the river but land owners still class it as there land it's the same situation as you at home someone you don't know is in your front yard wouldn't you want to know who they were and what they wanted but it depends on where you were if that creek run's through her property then that's different because you are on her property especially if it runs through the middle of her property and your in the middle of it I would call that an intrution when the creek or river runs at the front or back of the property that's fine but going through private property is not a good idea.
@@wellplayedfishing7809 There are some really good bass creeks here but I wouldn't even attempt it because it's all private property but that's why they such good spots because no one has access gives the fish a chance to grow get big and fat.
@@peterehsman8831 yeah your right that system is very hard, very few access points but if you put in the effort for a big day then it’s very doable between causeways/bridges
@@peterehsman8831 unfortunately this statement is incorrect as the law has changed many years ago but any river in nsw doesn’t matter if it happens to go through someone’s property is classified as public land. I’ve spoken to fisheries to clarify this cause I was a little unsure but as long as you access through a public area like a bridge/ causeway or if you have Permission from the property owner it’s all okay 👍🏽
And I agree with her I wouldn't want stranger's on my property fishing and if these guys own the property on this waterway they are on they wouldn't eather.
Ain’t her property though. Fisheries were notified as well. Thanks for your comment :)
but you are missing the point the lads were fishing on PUBLIC LAND , but i would expect a remark like yours coming from a farmer who thinks they own everything and are entitled. basically your a moron.
Good on ya lads. Know all wanker has no idea. You handled it well with facts and the knowledge that you were 100% legal for what you were doing..I,m too old to put up with her attitude . Cops would have been called..lol. Cheers.