I did a video on the Russians about 2 years ago now, I researched it for that, but I might have remembered it wrong now 😬 my thought was it was 2 companies of musketeers and one grenadier each battalion, but nope, it's 3 regular,one grenadier
Right, 1812+ Russians has 4 company battalions of 8 platoons, thats why their company is of 6-8 men if we use 1/20 ratio. Only combined Grenadier Battalions has 3 companies.
4 companies. 3 musketeer, one grenadier (in heavy infantry); 3 jager, one carabineer (in light infantry). All Guard heavy infantry are considered grenadier companies, and guard light infantry has some other considerations
@@NapoleonicWargaming i remember i have watched all of your videos about how different nations formed up there units I’ve done a lot of reading on Napolun which is a fantastic website for the last few years I’ve been designing my own war game rules set in this period and i found that it is easy to throw a lot of modern 2020 hindsight into even the research or describing how a unit should be employed even. I love videos about infantry as i am an infantryman by trade but i would love a good video about cavalry tactics from each country and sort of the differences between them that would be awesome.
omg... your videos ARE NOT crap! I love your videos, look forward to watching ALL OF THEM, and have learned ALOT from watching them! please keep them coming!
Superb video, I've recently (last couple of years) moved from ACW and WW2 to starting Napoleonics and this series of videos has proved invaluable. I do game in 18mm though and it would make my day to see more units in that scale (pleased to see some AB in your Waterloo Prussians video). Keep them coming old mate!
We have also extended the ratings to Very Large units. My mate and I play in strict 1:20 historical ratios and found that certain units (newly arrived British full strength battalions in the Peninsular or Guards for example) just needed that extra size to properly represent. We also realised (after quite some time) that cavalry fight in squadrons and not always whole regiments - provided you keep track of their unit size(s) and transfer their loss of stamina when reforming or splitting.
Just seeing a Brigade or an entire division displayed on a tabletop is inspirational to those of us building armies. It gives us a goal to reach, a target of "I really want a whole French division". Me: I want an entire corps and likely won't feel ready to even start gaming until it's done.
Great video. Just on mixed nationality divisions, french XI corps 1813, 31st div french/Westphalian/Neapolitan, 35th div french/Italian, 36th Just french and late the 39th Baden/Hesse-darmstadt, lovely mix.
Good day - Been watching your channel and was about to purchase some perry's till I watched this video - but now very confused been watching how to start a army French in Spain were the battalions are 24 figures but in this video they are now 36 - so confused now - really enjoy your videos and love the enthusiasm you project about the subject - do keep it up and hopefully you will explain to this humble beginner - thank you in advance
We always used 1/50 for 15mm, giving us 12 man battalions, but then we fought massive battles, with many many battalions. For 28mm we use 1/30 or 1/20....
If anyone want to try corps scale just go minimum 2 battalions, 2 brigades, 2 divisions, cavalry brigade 3 regiments, artillery brigade 4 batteries (horse battery, 2 divisional batteries and corp reserve batteey), 2 skirmisher battalions for each division 2/6 per brigade and if you like it expand on them from there increasing or keeping units size at each level based on historical or paper size or your own choice. max size could easily be like 25 battalions, 3 divisions 2 cav brigades and 6 batteries 2 cav, 3 div, 1 reserve. I don't mean buy this many but if you want to try bigger add your mates extra brigades when you play.
Great video, thank you! Just a few remarks: 1.Pronunciation of Brunswick-Oels. The Oe or Ö is pronounced like the u in burn. 2.Individual companies were often used to guard positions like bridges or farms. 3.Companies usually split in two to form columns, called a division or platoon.
This is absolutely perfect. I haven’t a clue about nappys except they had muskets and funny hats but I’ve been feeling the pull, ordered a pile of rulebooks and some AB French. Probably order some 10mm nappys too. Trying to figure out how to base them to cover most rules such as esr, black powder, laselle, GDA etc. any suggestions would be highly appreciated
Quick question for you, in your Imperial Guard video you talked about a primary source about how the imperial guard looked "like pirates" covered in tattoos and gold earrings - do you have that source handy? I'd love to take a look at it so I can do my guard better
I can't remember that exact quote, but this from p63 of Albion Triumphant vol 2 'more dreadful fellows than napoleons old guard I have never seen. They had the look of a thoroughbred veteran, disciplined bandits...depravity, recklessness and bloodthirstiness were burned into their faces...black moustachios, gigantic bear skins and a ferocious expression were their characteristics'
another good vid. the British did use the Corps system. the prince of orange 1st corps, hill 2nd, picton revs, uxbridge was cav. Ho I have 2 inf corps and a Cav corps. in my British army as a matter of interest I have 2 Inf Corps 2 divs in each, with 3 bigs in each with 4 inf Bns each 3 inf 1 lt bn . and the Brunswick Corps. 1 Cav corps , 8 lt cav regs 9 hvy regs, dutch, british, hanover.
Strong content, interesting video, an enthusiast's dream channel - even an old grognard like me picked some useful bits n bobs up. So no, it's not you, it's YT. Keep on rolling ;)
I would say battalion vs regiment is the most confusing subject. Everywhere I've looked most regiments are of a strict made up of one type of unit and is generally larger than a battalion. Each nation varies though. Union ACW battalions were just unfilled out regiments and generally commanded by lieutenant colonel, regiment could be colonel or if it is a huge regiment a brigadier general
I do unit strength across the battalions based on is the battle being fought early way, mid war and late war to change unit strengths and for waterloo reformed army size being there were 10 months to refit both armies
Awesome...as always. I struggle a bit with the cavalry unit size. My (French Cent Jours) infantry regiments are made of 2 (one has 3) battalions . Each battalion: 6 companies/bases of 4. 24 a battalion...48 a regiment. So far so good, but I'm confused about the size of the cavalry regiments. The "standard" BP 12 for a regiment seems too skimpy compared to the size of my infantry regiments. My I Corps has 33 infantry battalions...the 4x12 strong cavalry division looks tiny next to my infantry. Help?!
Hi everybody, I'm an italian musician with passion for napoleonic era. One or two questions: Why the double rank? Why paint double miniatures for unrealistic space on the table? Thanks for the answers.
It's just what looks best on the tabletop imo. Really we should base them 3 deep (except Brits). I like 20mm frontage because it shows off the minis nicely, Andy used 15mm though
@@NapoleonicWargaming I know the differences between french and british, thanks, but i like to maintain the real spaces fill by units. In any case, great respect for all the game systems. I use the scale 1fig:40men and 1mm for 1 meter. P.S. Escuse me for the (maybe) bad english, anyway.
Russian infantry was organized by 3 battalions 2 of which would be in the field with the 3rd being a depot battalion held in reserve on on garrison duty.
Is there a good place to sell mini's? I have an entire french army, mostly unpainted, just primed and mounted for Empire 3rd. Minifigs and another company from the 80s
You would have been better to explain this with one video per nation. For instance the British at Waterloo had two Guards Brigades. The 1st. Guards Brigade:- 1st, Battalion 1st. Foot Guards and 2nd. Battalion 1st. Foot Guards. The 2nd. Guards Brigade:- 2nd Battalion 2nd. Foot Guards and 2nd. Battalion 3rd. Foot Guards. Quite a few of the battalions were 2nd. Battalions as after the invasion of France in 1814 a number of Peninsula Veterans were sent to North America to fight the Americans who were trying to invade Canada. This meant that the British contingent occupying France were 2nd Battalion troops who hadn’t seen any fighting. The majority of Brits at Waterloo were 2nd. Battalions. Otherwise your video is great for beginners to Napoleonic battles.
I'm just getting into Napoleonics and this was hugely useful. I've already bought a divisions worth of models 😅 Quick question, what's the best way to represent 2 battalions from the same regiment, eg 2 Battalions from the 7th line?
Their fanions have a flag for the battalion (like red, blue, green). The French referred to them as 1st Battalion and 2nd Battalion but in French. Depending on the year, it could be 6 Fusilier companies with half strength flank companies (like having 4 figures) or it could be 4 Fusiliers and 2 Flank companies at equal strength. I look up their organization for my numbers and you can find specific numbers for each unit since they were documented
@@desktopgrenadiers4321 yes usually much understrength. It is just that in presenting this subject, you have to mention book strengths, otherwise you get lost.
I'm thinking of getting into Napoleonics but skirmish game types like Sharpe Practice or similar. 1 box of British Vs 1 box of French etc. Perry have the most miniatures for your money but I'm not sure how you load out your troops. I've seen people's lists in battle reports but I don't know what you would use for skirmish games???
I'm not 100% sure on the skirmish games, but I think the Perry's give you the relevant equipment, officers with swords, colour sgts with spontoons (spears) and men with muskets. You can always supplement with a pack or 2 of metals, but yeah, I certainly think you could do a lot worse than a box of each to get started!
As much as I admire your efforts to bring Napoleonic Army Design to new Players... The Russians had a 3 Battalion Regiment Strength -2 Field and one Reserve Battalion. Of this reserve Units the Grenadier/Elite Companies were permanently withdrawn to form Converged Grenadier Divisions. The Field Battalions kept most of the time their Elite Companies within the Battalions to have a strength and Moral Support for their Tasks. Converged Units never had flags. Regimental Artillery...3/4 pdr with Prussians, Austrians, Saxons in the early years. 1810-1812 the 6 Pdr with the French, Westphalien, partly Polish/Duchy of Warszaw, Saxons had their 4pdr Fast firing Guns. So Backwater Countries...delete the Term fast🙂
Thanks for the kind words! I've done a video on books I'd recommend ua-cam.com/video/NAIOXuyQi_U/v-deo.html For infantry specifically Osprey do a line of books called 'Elite'. In that series they have books on the infantry tactics of the various major powers, certainly Britain, France and Prussia. I've found them super useful!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thanks just watched the video. I found all the Osprey books on Scribd.com. I created a 1 month trial account and downloaded the pdf versions. It's interesting to try real Napoleonic tactics on Napoleon Total War. I would like to get into Black Powder but there is no community for were I live in Australia. Maybe I will get the Waterloo starter kit.
Another informative and entertaining video. Good basics and clear explanation of military terms relayed to black powder. I think the quality is constantly good or improving so if you figures are off its not the content or delivery in my view.
I am making a bavarian army and as they were quite a bit smaller than the french army for example, would they still have 3 battalions per Regiment or only two?
I’m thought the Russians formed battalions of four companies ? Unless that’s what they did in 1805 and three is more like 1812 forward ?
I did a video on the Russians about 2 years ago now, I researched it for that, but I might have remembered it wrong now 😬 my thought was it was 2 companies of musketeers and one grenadier each battalion, but nope, it's 3 regular,one grenadier
Right, 1812+ Russians has 4 company battalions of 8 platoons, thats why their company is of 6-8 men if we use 1/20 ratio. Only combined Grenadier Battalions has 3 companies.
4 companies. 3 musketeer, one grenadier (in heavy infantry); 3 jager, one carabineer (in light infantry). All Guard heavy infantry are considered grenadier companies, and guard light infantry has some other considerations
@@NapoleonicWargaming i remember i have watched all of your videos about how different nations formed up there units I’ve done a lot of reading on Napolun which is a fantastic website for the last few years I’ve been designing my own war game rules set in this period and i found that it is easy to throw a lot of modern 2020 hindsight into even the research or describing how a unit should be employed even. I love videos about infantry as i am an infantryman by trade but i would love a good video about cavalry tactics from each country and sort of the differences between them that would be awesome.
I have been puzzled by the term " Demi Brigade "? I now live in Bulgaria and information is difficult to obtain.
omg...
your videos ARE NOT crap!
I love your videos, look forward to watching ALL OF THEM, and have learned ALOT from watching them!
please keep them coming!
Haha, thanks man. Glad you enjoy them!
Superb video, I've recently (last couple of years) moved from ACW and WW2 to starting Napoleonics and this series of videos has proved invaluable. I do game in 18mm though and it would make my day to see more units in that scale (pleased to see some AB in your Waterloo Prussians video). Keep them coming old mate!
I absolutely love the 18mm stuff, but I can't start all over again! 😂
never has a hobby humbled me so much. I was getting all my info through facebook groups but now after this video im even more confused..
Oh no! That's not cool! What is it that confusing you, anything we can help with?
We have also extended the ratings to Very Large units. My mate and I play in strict 1:20 historical ratios and found that certain units (newly arrived British full strength battalions in the Peninsular or Guards for example) just needed that extra size to properly represent. We also realised (after quite some time) that cavalry fight in squadrons and not always whole regiments - provided you keep track of their unit size(s) and transfer their loss of stamina when reforming or splitting.
Just started collecting Napoleonic troops this will be really helpful, all the best, Garry
Thanks man!
Just seeing a Brigade or an entire division displayed on a tabletop is inspirational to those of us building armies. It gives us a goal to reach, a target of "I really want a whole French division". Me: I want an entire corps and likely won't feel ready to even start gaming until it's done.
I admire the ambition!
Great video. Just on mixed nationality divisions, french XI corps 1813, 31st div french/Westphalian/Neapolitan, 35th div french/Italian, 36th Just french and late the 39th Baden/Hesse-darmstadt, lovely mix.
I am just starting out - and this was a topic I was finding very confusing. This was very helpful!
Good day - Been watching your channel and was about to purchase some perry's till I watched this video - but now very confused been watching how to start a army French in Spain were the battalions are 24 figures but in this video they are now 36 - so confused now - really enjoy your videos and love the enthusiasm you project about the subject - do keep it up and hopefully you will explain to this humble beginner - thank you in advance
We always used 1/50 for 15mm, giving us 12 man battalions, but then we fought massive battles, with many many battalions. For 28mm we use 1/30 or 1/20....
me 2
If anyone want to try corps scale just go minimum 2 battalions, 2 brigades, 2 divisions, cavalry brigade 3 regiments, artillery brigade 4 batteries (horse battery, 2 divisional batteries and corp reserve batteey), 2 skirmisher battalions for each division 2/6 per brigade and if you like it expand on them from there increasing or keeping units size at each level based on historical or paper size or your own choice. max size could easily be like 25 battalions, 3 divisions 2 cav brigades and 6 batteries 2 cav, 3 div, 1 reserve. I don't mean buy this many but if you want to try bigger add your mates extra brigades when you play.
Just replying to keep this comment bookmarked.
The vagaries of UA-cam views and notifications! Great video
Great video, thank you! Just a few remarks:
1.Pronunciation of Brunswick-Oels. The Oe or Ö is pronounced like the u in burn.
2.Individual companies were often used to guard positions like bridges or farms. 3.Companies usually split in two to form columns, called a division or platoon.
So Ooh-el? Thanks for the heads up, I'm gonna need it this weekend!
@@NapoleonicWargaming no, more like [u]ls, with the u pronounced like in burn.
Brilliant! thanks!
This is absolutely perfect. I haven’t a clue about nappys except they had muskets and funny hats
but I’ve been feeling the pull, ordered a pile of rulebooks and some AB French. Probably order some 10mm nappys too. Trying to figure out how to base them to cover most rules such as esr, black powder, laselle, GDA etc. any suggestions would be highly appreciated
Quick question for you, in your Imperial Guard video you talked about a primary source about how the imperial guard looked "like pirates" covered in tattoos and gold earrings - do you have that source handy? I'd love to take a look at it so I can do my guard better
I can't remember that exact quote, but this from p63 of Albion Triumphant vol 2 'more dreadful fellows than napoleons old guard I have never seen. They had the look of a thoroughbred veteran, disciplined bandits...depravity, recklessness and bloodthirstiness were burned into their faces...black moustachios, gigantic bear skins and a ferocious expression were their characteristics'
another good vid. the British did use the Corps system. the prince of orange 1st corps, hill 2nd, picton revs, uxbridge was cav. Ho I have 2 inf corps and a Cav corps. in my British army as a matter of interest I have 2 Inf Corps 2 divs in each, with 3 bigs in each with 4 inf Bns each 3 inf 1 lt bn . and the Brunswick Corps. 1 Cav corps , 8 lt cav regs 9 hvy regs, dutch, british, hanover.
Good point! My heads been stuck in the Peninsular recently, I didnt even think about Waterloo! 😂
Link french and British flank grenadiers
Strong content, interesting video, an enthusiast's dream channel - even an old grognard like me picked some useful bits n bobs up. So no, it's not you, it's YT. Keep on rolling ;)
Thanks man! You keep watching them, I'll keep making 'em!
Very confusing how many minis for a regiment of infantry how many for a cavelry how many for a artillery all normal size
I would say battalion vs regiment is the most confusing subject. Everywhere I've looked most regiments are of a strict made up of one type of unit and is generally larger than a battalion. Each nation varies though. Union ACW battalions were just unfilled out regiments and generally commanded by lieutenant colonel, regiment could be colonel or if it is a huge regiment a brigadier general
I do unit strength across the battalions based on is the battle being fought early way, mid war and late war to change unit strengths and for waterloo reformed army size being there were 10 months to refit both armies
Great video, very good information.
I agree brigade and regiment engagements are skirmishes
Excellent video learned a lot I'm making my french battalions of 36figures and my British 30 figures so I hope that works out about right.
Yeah that sounds good to me!
Awesome...as always. I struggle a bit with the cavalry unit size. My (French Cent Jours) infantry regiments are made of 2 (one has 3) battalions . Each battalion: 6 companies/bases of 4. 24 a battalion...48 a regiment. So far so good, but I'm confused about the size of the cavalry regiments. The "standard" BP 12 for a regiment seems too skimpy compared to the size of my infantry regiments. My I Corps has 33 infantry battalions...the 4x12 strong cavalry division looks tiny next to my infantry. Help?!
Use larger bases or bump squadrons up to 16.
Love these basics videos really useful
Thanks man, that's great to hear!
Woo hooo on my way to a corp love it !!!
Hi everybody, I'm an italian musician with passion for napoleonic era. One or two questions: Why the double rank? Why paint double miniatures for unrealistic space on the table? Thanks for the answers.
It's just what looks best on the tabletop imo. Really we should base them 3 deep (except Brits). I like 20mm frontage because it shows off the minis nicely, Andy used 15mm though
@@NapoleonicWargaming I know the differences between french and british, thanks, but i like to maintain the real spaces fill by units. In any case, great respect for all the game systems. I use the scale 1fig:40men and 1mm for 1 meter. P.S. Escuse me for the (maybe) bad english, anyway.
Very helpful. Thanks!
Very good but we need more info on cavelary
Russian infantry was organized by 3 battalions 2 of which would be in the field with the 3rd being a depot battalion held in reserve on on garrison duty.
Is there a good place to sell mini's? I have an entire french army, mostly unpainted, just primed and mounted for Empire 3rd. Minifigs and another company from the 80s
Tbh mate, ebay is probably your best bet
Beautiful armies' and very informative video!
column line and square rule use the same ratio ie 1=20 men
Very helpfull, very joyfull, thx mate
How many artillery batteries were in a Corp and how many in a Division? Thanks
Awesome great resource
Great video - really helpful
cavalry actually had companies as well but the squadron was the base unit (two companies = one squadron)
Yeah, I didnt really want to confuse it too much. Good info though!
Strangely the "Subscribe" button was unchecked even though I am already a subscriber. Checked it again just in case.
Thanks man, yeah I got know what's been going on with YT this month
You would have been better to explain this with one video per nation. For instance the British at Waterloo had two Guards Brigades.
The 1st. Guards Brigade:- 1st, Battalion 1st. Foot Guards and 2nd. Battalion 1st. Foot Guards.
The 2nd. Guards Brigade:- 2nd Battalion 2nd. Foot Guards and 2nd. Battalion 3rd. Foot Guards.
Quite a few of the battalions were 2nd. Battalions as after the invasion of France in 1814 a number of Peninsula Veterans were sent to North America to fight the Americans who were trying to invade Canada.
This meant that the British contingent occupying France were 2nd Battalion troops who hadn’t seen any fighting.
The majority of Brits at Waterloo were 2nd. Battalions.
Otherwise your video is great for beginners to Napoleonic battles.
I'm just getting into Napoleonics and this was hugely useful. I've already bought a divisions worth of models 😅
Quick question, what's the best way to represent 2 battalions from the same regiment, eg 2 Battalions from the 7th line?
Their fanions have a flag for the battalion (like red, blue, green). The French referred to them as 1st Battalion and 2nd Battalion but in French. Depending on the year, it could be 6 Fusilier companies with half strength flank companies (like having 4 figures) or it could be 4 Fusiliers and 2 Flank companies at equal strength. I look up their organization for my numbers and you can find specific numbers for each unit since they were documented
The Russians had four companies. Three "line" companies and an "elite" company.
And often low in man power, he makes out they were huge?
@@desktopgrenadiers4321 yes usually much understrength. It is just that in presenting this subject, you have to mention book strengths, otherwise you get lost.
@@baldog74 fair comment 👍. I went down the ‘intermediate Napoleonics’ you mention at the start 🤣
I'm thinking of getting into Napoleonics but skirmish game types like Sharpe Practice or similar. 1 box of British Vs 1 box of French etc. Perry have the most miniatures for your money but I'm not sure how you load out your troops. I've seen people's lists in battle reports but I don't know what you would use for skirmish games???
I'm not 100% sure on the skirmish games, but I think the Perry's give you the relevant equipment, officers with swords, colour sgts with spontoons (spears) and men with muskets.
You can always supplement with a pack or 2 of metals, but yeah, I certainly think you could do a lot worse than a box of each to get started!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thanks for the reply, I definitely need to look into further 👍
Great! Thanks i needed this
I am planning to do Napoleonic war
As much as I admire your efforts to bring Napoleonic Army Design to new Players... The Russians had a 3 Battalion Regiment Strength -2 Field and one Reserve Battalion. Of this reserve Units the Grenadier/Elite Companies were permanently withdrawn to form Converged Grenadier Divisions. The Field Battalions kept most of the time their Elite Companies within the Battalions to have a strength and Moral Support for their Tasks. Converged Units never had flags.
Regimental Artillery...3/4 pdr with Prussians, Austrians, Saxons in the early years. 1810-1812 the 6 Pdr with the French, Westphalien, partly Polish/Duchy of Warszaw, Saxons had their 4pdr Fast firing Guns. So Backwater Countries...delete the Term fast🙂
Hey just discovered your channel, great informative videos. Are there any books you would recommend about Napoleonic infantry.
Thanks for the kind words! I've done a video on books I'd recommend ua-cam.com/video/NAIOXuyQi_U/v-deo.html
For infantry specifically Osprey do a line of books called 'Elite'. In that series they have books on the infantry tactics of the various major powers, certainly Britain, France and Prussia. I've found them super useful!
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thanks just watched the video. I found all the Osprey books on Scribd.com. I created a 1 month trial account and downloaded the pdf versions. It's interesting to try real Napoleonic tactics on Napoleon Total War. I would like to get into Black Powder but there is no community for were I live in Australia. Maybe I will get the Waterloo starter kit.
Also www.pdfdrive.com has many of the osprey pdf books as well
The British certainly did use Corps
MANEUVARIBILITY over firepower.
Confusing
Niçe one.
Your videos certainly did not drop in quality. UA-cam is indeed strange. And often deliberately so.
Yeah, I dont know what's going on with them...
si ma le foto sono proprio brutte!
This is actually pretty timely for me. Any chance of something similar for cavalry or artillery?
I quickly cover them off at the end, but I'm thinking I might do Wednesday shorts on them
Another informative and entertaining video. Good basics and clear explanation of military terms relayed to black powder. I think the quality is constantly good or improving so if you figures are off its not the content or delivery in my view.
Haha, thanks man!
I am making a bavarian army and as they were quite a bit smaller than the french army for example, would they still have 3 battalions per Regiment or only two?
The Bavaroans only had 2 battalions per regt iirc. Absolutely, the Bavarians are an army that its possible to collect the entire thing!
@@NapoleonicWargaming thanks for the answer