Oh I feel ur pain wit late silage. The fusion has it faults but brilliant in late n early silage. Wrapped on ground. Whatever bout rake make, get one with hydraulic vari width and independent rotor control. Great for straw when u just want one rotor to move swarth.
Great video Gerry 👍 last thing I expected in November was a silage video 🙄😳🤣 to be fair the grass looked to be quite good quality although the sugar levels probably non existent but beggars cant be chosers 💪👍
Going back to my wrapping contracting days late bales with short soft grass like that were an absolute torture. No matter how well the bale was made it would go out of shape in no time. Key was to get it wrapped ASAP after baling. Be prepared to feed well flattened bales during the summer 😂
That’s what happen, bales were good soild bales when baled but went out shape over night. Few funny shape ones but as a whole once they wrapped they were ok, they’ll be used 😅
No one will believe me but the cows went mad for that stuff. Feed quality wouldn’t be any good but it done a job that year. 4 months earlier…. Progress 😂
Yeah the Massey rakes are the old fella ones, I have an old fella 880 and can still get parts. Nothing worse than an easy job taking 3times longer than it should 😩🤦♂
In theory yes. If you have the belt speed right and driving perfectly straight lines, you can drop the row perfectly beside the 1st row. In practice though, you’re on hilly ground and the grass is fighting gravity. And falling too far 1 way and not far enough another and Havnt gps to drive 100%. Then no. You’ll have it ok is some parts of field, not in others and bales won’t be uniform.
Hay 😅 Anycase You have a grouper on mower,but didn’t used it. But you didn’t Tedder and then rowed it getting the same result as if you did grouper🤷♂️ What was the DM when you baled?
I didn’t use the grouper as it doesn’t leave a good row for baling. I didn’t intend to rake it at all, but when the rake was available we gave it a try, tedding it would would done very little good as it wouldn’t have dried it any more then it was. Dm wouldn’t be great, I’m not even testing it. Just feed it with mix of better silage.
@ hmmmm If I can,please just say it like a farmer would give/take to piss off Question some stuff here🤷♂️ You have a grouper on the mower that basically is hopeless……but it’s still on there?? I’m assuming the mower has a tyne conditioner,tell me it has a conditioner. You say the rake wasn’t working,I’m assuming you mean the Tedder? If so,you started a very late job without the most important bit of kit! You say it wouldn’t have mattered,I’m gonna argue that!! I would have teddered that immediately after mowing and twice the following day and rain permitting until I was convinced I’m getting near 40% and rowed lastly getting hopefully another slight drying. You test DM before baling not afterwards,if you’re spending coin on wrap,you check BEFORE. You say it’s not going to be good feed,tbh the whole last 3/4 of video showed that.Especially the wrapping part you missed out,that said it all but you were honest. You buy new oil for your engine then top it off with black used oil you just took out??? No! You don’t try and feed 40 bales over better quality feed. You used it for compost on another crop😂😂 The truth is if you’re going for it 40% DM has to be,were you that challenged by rain?? I used to run late baleage at any opportunity. But I threw every trick in the book,and I do mean EVERY trick. My favourite is the 650s were off and the 850s were on,IN CASE OF SOFTNESS.I had a 240 hp on a twin axled floater tyred round baler and didn’t make maximum bales.I could get away with zero damage. I certainly didn’t take the square baler!Even with its awesomeness,and Jesus that baler was a stunner.But I would have found the softest part of the paddock then made a nightmare mess trying to get it out! I used inoculated products,not that acid shite you guys use.Its expensive but you doing the job! Otherwise you feed it to cattle standing or bales or both or watch it turn brown,but dont waste money. I had a Krone 5 mtr mower,awesome thing I tell ya.Had flaps set as wide as possible and in warmer weather I could just left as wide rows as possible and the rake would get 10 mtrs of grass which was awesome since it was an eight mtr rake,had to be right on the line but. Row was sweet and balanced Baked beautiful. My biggest trick All the grass gear was the same company been Krone,get flat tyre on the trailed mower,rob off rake.Get a flat work off work mower,rob off round baler.Things worked better I tell ya,100% Krone are expensive but reliable and always had parts is priceless. The No1 reason why that didn’t really work out(grass looked great) No Tedder,should have pulled the old demo trick on a two year old machine KRONE! Any ways, I made mistakes too!
Looking good
Great video Gerry. Great to have those bales. Enjoyed watching. 👍🏼👍🏼
Silage bales in November? Well done. You're dealt the cards the weather and climate play, good on you for making the most of it.
I have a rake like that, it needed to be set at or almost at full width to produce a proper row for the baler. It makes a huge difference.
I made bales last year in the frost. Put on additive and cows went mad for it. Was down for a week and buffed. Heaviest bales I ever made.
Always a great video Gerry 👍🏻
Thanks 😁👋🏻
Hi lad that was a great job with the sliage in November and keep up the good work with it 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Better than a snowball anyway
Oh I feel ur pain wit late silage. The fusion has it faults but brilliant in late n early silage. Wrapped on ground.
Whatever bout rake make, get one with hydraulic vari width and independent rotor control. Great for straw when u just want one rotor to move swarth.
And awkward fields and corners
Yes those few extras would be very useful. Be very handy for straw. It’s on the list of things needed 😂
Great video Gerry 👌
Zero feeding with the baler 😂 Brilliant video 💪🏻 🏴
Adrian will be delighted to see the massey rake 😂
😅😅😅 a siege or did u mean a seizure 👀😅😅 know your pain !! Mchale will be offering u a demo Fusion 👍 enjoyed your video!!
The KUHN rakes would be my rake of choice now a good strong machine now.
Great video Gerry 👍 last thing I expected in November was a silage video 🙄😳🤣 to be fair the grass looked to be quite good quality although the sugar levels probably non existent but beggars cant be chosers 💪👍
No quality will be low, but we might be glad of it
Going back to my wrapping contracting days late bales with short soft grass like that were an absolute torture. No matter how well the bale was made it would go out of shape in no time. Key was to get it wrapped ASAP after baling. Be prepared to feed well flattened bales during the summer 😂
That’s what happen, bales were good soild bales when baled but went out shape over night. Few funny shape ones but as a whole once they wrapped they were ok, they’ll be used 😅
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A class 2800 rake would look well on the back of the 6930 and they make a lovely sward for balers
Yea I like the class rakes. Seem to be pick of them.
The john deere makes avery nice bale.
Often baled silage this time of year, cattle usually go mad for it. A Class or Pottengier Rake would be my choice 👌🏻
Good stuff ❤
Better looking at it than for it.
😃😃👍👍🚜🚜
Is there much nutrition in late silage ?
Definitely not….more to clean off a heavy cover for new growth in spring
Massey and fendt rakes are the same, they are the old fella rakes
Mowing in july 2023 or later in the year would have been wetter for sure
First
Great video bud, are you going to limavady tractor run this weekend?
No I never heard of it even.
Hang on!!!! A Massey 😂😂
It was hired…. Not bought 😂 went very easy on it. The Deere power could have busted it 😂
@@gerry6420 😂😂
If you’re buying a rake a krone is the best out there I would say
😂😂😂 krone wouldn’t even take a demo of 1
You never know gerry you might be out mowing silage again in February like you did 2 year ago lol 😂
No one will believe me but the cows went mad for that stuff. Feed quality wouldn’t be any good but it done a job that year. 4 months earlier…. Progress 😂
A welger baler will bale any type of grass doesn't matter about the grass
Yeah the Massey rakes are the old fella ones, I have an old fella 880 and can still get parts. Nothing worse than an easy job taking 3times longer than it should 😩🤦♂
👍👍💪💪🙏🙏👌👌🇮🇪🇮🇪
Thanks for the video Gerry
😁👍
Did you say you were out with a ‘ moron’ cutting grass?
@@JohnMcKay-p1f not to my knowledge 😂….. some might say I was a moron cutting grass
If grouper is set right u can group 20fts no problem for a baler
In theory yes. If you have the belt speed right and driving perfectly straight lines, you can drop the row perfectly beside the 1st row. In practice though, you’re on hilly ground and the grass is fighting gravity. And falling too far 1 way and not far enough another and Havnt gps to drive 100%. Then no. You’ll have it ok is some parts of field, not in others and bales won’t be uniform.
Hay 😅
Anycase
You have a grouper on mower,but didn’t used it.
But you didn’t Tedder and then rowed it getting the same result as if you did grouper🤷♂️
What was the DM when you baled?
I didn’t use the grouper as it doesn’t leave a good row for baling. I didn’t intend to rake it at all, but when the rake was available we gave it a try, tedding it would would done very little good as it wouldn’t have dried it any more then it was. Dm wouldn’t be great, I’m not even testing it. Just feed it with mix of better silage.
@ hmmmm
If I can,please just say it like a farmer would give/take to piss off
Question some stuff here🤷♂️
You have a grouper on the mower that basically is hopeless……but it’s still on there??
I’m assuming the mower has a tyne conditioner,tell me it has a conditioner.
You say the rake wasn’t working,I’m assuming you mean the Tedder?
If so,you started a very late job without the most important bit of kit!
You say it wouldn’t have mattered,I’m gonna argue that!! I would have teddered that immediately after mowing and twice the following day and rain permitting until I was convinced I’m getting near 40% and rowed lastly getting hopefully another slight drying.
You test DM before baling not afterwards,if you’re spending coin on wrap,you check BEFORE.
You say it’s not going to be good feed,tbh the whole last 3/4 of video showed that.Especially the wrapping part you missed out,that said it all but you were honest.
You buy new oil for your engine then top it off with black used oil you just took out???
No! You don’t try and feed 40 bales over better quality feed.
You used it for compost on another crop😂😂
The truth is if you’re going for it 40% DM has to be,were you that challenged by rain??
I used to run late baleage at any opportunity.
But I threw every trick in the book,and I do mean EVERY trick.
My favourite is the 650s were off and the 850s were on,IN CASE OF SOFTNESS.I had a 240 hp on a twin axled floater tyred round baler and didn’t make maximum bales.I could get away with zero damage.
I certainly didn’t take the square baler!Even with its awesomeness,and Jesus that baler was a stunner.But I would have found the softest part of the paddock then made a nightmare mess trying to get it out!
I used inoculated products,not that acid shite you guys use.Its expensive but you doing the job!
Otherwise you feed it to cattle standing or bales or both or watch it turn brown,but dont waste money.
I had a Krone 5 mtr mower,awesome thing I tell ya.Had flaps set as wide as possible and in warmer weather I could just left as wide rows as possible and the rake would get 10 mtrs of grass which was awesome since it was an eight mtr rake,had to be right on the line but.
Row was sweet and balanced
Baked beautiful.
My biggest trick
All the grass gear was the same company been Krone,get flat tyre on the trailed mower,rob off rake.Get a flat work off work mower,rob off round baler.Things worked better I tell ya,100%
Krone are expensive but reliable and always had parts is priceless.
The No1 reason why that didn’t really work out(grass looked great) No Tedder,should have pulled the old demo trick on a two year old machine KRONE!
Any ways, I made mistakes too!