3POA The Super 7 GI JOE Cobra Mothership is Deader than Disco! Episode 52

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  • @jzachery
    @jzachery Рік тому +14

    That Cobra Mothership is sick! I'm backing it. IDGAF. I want it.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому +3

      Well for your sake I hope it funds! 👍🏻

    • @terryxperry
      @terryxperry Рік тому +1

      It overpriced 600 usd. This should be 300 bucks. People need to be voicing about there high prices

  • @Darthjardius
    @Darthjardius Рік тому +9

    “Disco is NOT dead! Disco is life!!”
    -Tony P, Mystery Men

  • @FFFFPPPP
    @FFFFPPPP Рік тому +21

    The majority of the Reaction line is not made up of obscure characters. There are a few of them but most is main characters. Also $100 for shipping is legit. Shipping companies charge insane fees for oversized boxes. I sold some stuff on ebay and my bigger boxes had unexpected $30-50 fees tacked on because of the size.

    • @ROCCOTHEGREAT
      @ROCCOTHEGREAT Рік тому +7

      you didn't listen to what he said. these companies have deals with shipping companies for better rates than we could get.

    • @cobracommander9138
      @cobracommander9138 Рік тому +3

      @@cjflan32But in this instance Super7 does suck. I bought most of their Thundercats line and there are some serious QC issues. I also have the Reaction figs and they’re disappointing. I don’t know if I want to drop $660 shipping plus tax if I know there will be QC issues.

    • @LaserPants
      @LaserPants Рік тому +5

      @@ROCCOTHEGREATwaaaay better rates. These dudes are super uninformed of the discounts the mega corporations get on bulk shipping.

  • @krazycp
    @krazycp Рік тому +10

    I backed the mothership. I have never backed a toy before. I only collect vintage, but this appealed to me. I’m also backing Falcone’s Flagg deck crew.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому +1

      I did think that 1/18 Joe collectors would want this. I’m still surprised it’s under 300 backers.

  • @BrappyHour
    @BrappyHour Рік тому +1

    As a note to Bobby. You dodged a bullet with Isom and Cyberfrog. As much as I enjoy Cyberfrog. There’s too much drama in indie comics.

  • @hammertronactionfigures2426
    @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +15

    As cool as the COBRA Mothership is it's just too expensive.
    It's way too expensive to entice people to hop on board and start collecting GI Joe figures and vehicles from any company, much less Super7.

  • @hammertronactionfigures2426
    @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +6

    The COBRA Mothership looks really entertaining.
    It being more obscure just makes it stand out more.

    • @lisaroberts8556
      @lisaroberts8556 Рік тому +5

      That’s exactly how I feel. “It stands out more” I knew lots kids who wanted this as a play-set. Am not sure why these Man Nerds are salty about it? Compared to some of the older toys. This is Beyond Cool. Granted it’s very expensive. I know nerds who would bare the cost nevertheless, For the Cobra Mothership 🐍

    • @hammertronactionfigures2426
      @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +1

      @@lisaroberts8556 The high cost is the main barrier to getting this.
      Displaying it and storing it are manageable problems.
      Super7's ongoing quality problems are enough to keep me away. I don't have any Super7 products, but the high prices keep me away.
      Super7 needs to have a solid reputation for the high prices they charge.

    • @LaserPants
      @LaserPants Рік тому

      @@lisaroberts8556criticizing it and making fun of it isn’t being salty. We all had a great time doing this show.
      Please find a better way to cope with your feelings when someone criticizes a toy you like. Pretend you’re an adult or something. 😅

  • @TheHairyGorilla
    @TheHairyGorilla Рік тому +3

    Great news on the UK stocking of Valaverse :)

  • @RandomStuffGarage619
    @RandomStuffGarage619 Рік тому +1

    OMG the batman gum!!! 😂😂😂 one of the very first streams I watched Bobby on, and I knew he was awesome from that moment hahaha such a champ for that!!!

  • @fightincodenames481
    @fightincodenames481 Рік тому +4

    Great stream. With all these huge playsets you really have to pick and choose and also plan which ones you want to invest in.

  • @Rebelxstudios
    @Rebelxstudios Рік тому +2

    It's too funny you guys mentioned Bobby making an Action Force character that's Casey Jones, but not named Casey Jones. Because I just started working on a custom Casey Jones action figure, and I'm using a Action Force Sergeant Slaughter as my base.

  • @jalbertking5170
    @jalbertking5170 Рік тому +2

    1:33:00 what are they referring to about hisstank? Im not in the know

    • @hammertronactionfigures2426
      @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому

      I think HissTank is a webpage with forums for GI Joe fans to post messages about GI Joe and everything related to the toys, cartoons, comics, and other things.

  • @yfz350twin
    @yfz350twin Рік тому +2

    This looks like it is bigger than my Smugglers Run Millennium Falcon with almost the entire ship having usable space to where the Falcon unfortunately does not.

    • @RandomStuffGarage619
      @RandomStuffGarage619 Рік тому

      Does the cobra ship have lights and sound?
      Sorry your falcon was so expensive. I bought mine back when it was $120.

  • @ArtyCollectz
    @ArtyCollectz Рік тому +2

    Shout out from Montana haha.

  • @littlewolvie2396
    @littlewolvie2396 Рік тому

    Good news on the UK stockist/retailer for Vala. I've bought from Kapow in the past and never had any complaints. But that was pre-Brexit. Now, maybe interesting for fellow EU fans and collectors on here (I don't expect US fans to follow as they usually get lost in our quite complex VAT and customs legislation). Kapow also ships (checked their shipping and it's affordable) to a couple of EU countries (Belgium, Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal and Ireland) and maybe as importantly, already charges VAT upon checkout. Now, this last bit is quite important as it means you won't have to pay any additional VAT or fees to your local postal service upon delivery, including no administrative fees which can easily run up to 30 euro and more. Definitely good news! I'm still hoping Vala will expand it's dealership in the EU/UK in the future, but it's a good and welcome start. Bobby said something about it, but I hope this deal will also include any present and future Valaverse exclusives. :) Thanks Bobby, much appreciated!
    I actually love the idea of integrating the A-Team as characters into Action Force! :D (Sorry, I watched this video in 2 parts and didn't want to spam you with multiple comments).
    As I heard you guys talking about some other toylines such as CyberFrog, I was wondering what your take is on BBTS/Fresh Monkey Fiction's Operation Monster Force? I've to admit I'm intrigued by that line. I like the concept and the figures seem quite compatible with other lines such as ML, Classified or AF. Too bad for me they are only available through BBTS, as that means I'm limited to for me rather expensive import. But I nonetheless couldn't resist pre-ordering some. :)

  • @smallvillefan72
    @smallvillefan72 Рік тому +2

    For $500 I expect Super 7 to apply all decals....Screw those stickers.

  • @loganxdanstoys5487
    @loganxdanstoys5487 Рік тому +14

    I love how everyones crowed funding sucks but valorverse ✌🏼not gi joe vehicle✌🏼 is perfect.🙄 Once again you and your toxic crew trying to sway people not to get it just like the giant man.😠 Also why don't you open the comments to everyone ? I don't want to join your toxic crusader crew to comment. I get it you just want your clapping seals 🦭 echo chamber.🙄

    • @RandomStuffGarage619
      @RandomStuffGarage619 Рік тому

      😂 you don't even have your facts straight. What flavor cheetos you eating?

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Рік тому +2

    One of my Favorite things to do with Lego is build the cool toys that didn't exist in the 80s. I combined the Temple of Darkness & Terrordrome, made Airships and Submarines... And COBRA Blue looks Great with Mandelorians & the 501st!!

  • @stephintheatre6335
    @stephintheatre6335 Рік тому +3

    Disco never really never died, lots people are still fans of it.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому

      It’s a quote from Cobra Commander. It was a joke.

  • @skullgame
    @skullgame Рік тому +3

    You'd think at a $500 price point, they'd throw in shipping, but it's Super 7, so of course that's another $100. The only thing I wanted from that crowdfund was the o-ring figures. Was hoping that would kick off S7 doing a line that Hasbro refuses to do any longer, but I have a feeling that dream is also dead.

  • @cptoyscollection
    @cptoyscollection Рік тому +3

    Mr. Unicorn, you should follow Tony's advise, and maybe then we might find Action Force stuff in Ollie's...😄😄😄

  • @CobraSaboteur
    @CobraSaboteur Рік тому +1

    Awesome show 🤘🏻 Also…that sign off was perfect 🤣

  • @hammertronactionfigures2426
    @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +5

    How would licensing The A-Team allow Bobby Vala to incorporate them into Action Force as a sub-team?
    Would it be lie a temproary guest appearance and then never seen or heard from again?

  • @gaslandsmechanic4978
    @gaslandsmechanic4978 Рік тому

    Can you also get this shipping thing for us in canada as we are also paying a ton in shipping?

  • @hammertronactionfigures2426
    @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +2

    No one compared the COBRA Mothership with the Star Wars Ghost ship that was recently crowd funded.
    Star Wars must be totally dead.
    This COBRA Mothership has way more useable space than that Star Wars ship has.

  • @patofthesharingan6468
    @patofthesharingan6468 Рік тому

    At 34:00 your comment on the universe of interested buyers is a good point. Imagine buying this and thinking you can resell it. If people aren’t buying this at $500, would they buy it for a higher price?

  • @jessebowling5164
    @jessebowling5164 Рік тому +2

    Love the show you guys are a trip for me love it⚡️🔥💥⚡️🔥💥

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Рік тому

    BOTTOM OF THE DEAD SEA KINDA SALTY... That cracked me up. His disgusting reaction to the salt made my eyes water!!

  • @tyreewilson2140
    @tyreewilson2140 Рік тому +3

    What’s Vala issue with Flynn and super 7?

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому +5

      The product they make is overpriced and, in his opinion, are dishonest with their customers.

  • @rawtalkrealdeal9985
    @rawtalkrealdeal9985 Рік тому

    Tony there was a castle on the Sunbow show "Pyramid of Darkness".

  • @tammycox4102
    @tammycox4102 Рік тому +1

    Cobra mothership vs the Ghost

  • @totallyaddicted2bricks989
    @totallyaddicted2bricks989 Рік тому +5

    The Legacy Flacon was far better than this, far better space to use inside, looked awesome with panels on or off, it had lights and sounds and some awesome functions. I just display mine with the panels on and boarding ramp lowered as if its in the docked position. Even now I think the Legacy Falcon would still be an awesome vehicle, although todays probable price tag of £500 would be pushing it as a straight releelease.
    To be fair i can be a bit biased as i only paid £120 for my Legacy Falcon, so back then it was a bit of a bargain and I'd say extremely good value. Sadly those days are long gone.
    Another great podcast, as always looking forward to the next one!

  • @littlewolvie2396
    @littlewolvie2396 Рік тому

    As a longtime GI Joe fan, I dig the whole Cobra Mothership concept. After all, I would rather have something more obscure I don't have yet instead of something that already exists and I already have. But the price ruins it for me. 500 bucks + VAT + shipping?! Super 7 has pretty good global coverage through different wholesale distributors. But living abroad in Europe, I expect the price to be around 800 euro (around $850). I may be crazy (my wife will certainly agree), but I'm not stupid. You can be a fan and fanatical collector, but if we keep backing stuff like this, next time they will ask a $1.000. Heck, compared to this, Hasbro's Giant Man actually looks like a sweet deal...

  • @zeusramos770
    @zeusramos770 Рік тому +1

    The only G.I Joe ReAction figure I own is of Kwinn who appeared in the second issue of the original comic book run. So I don't think Super7 has the rights to only make stuff from the cartoon. As far as I know Kwinn was never in the animated series.

    • @zeusramos770
      @zeusramos770 Рік тому

      And the Reaction figures are ok for what they are but they would sell more if they were in the $5-$10 range. The action figure market is in the same short-term profit mindset that is currently killing the comic industry. Keep making things more expensive for a smaller and smaller pool of people instead of making things more affordable and even possibly creating a future generation of collectors.

  • @MichaelWWoods
    @MichaelWWoods Рік тому +2

    I’m sure the mother ship is for someone. I have no idea who that might be, but it’s for someone.

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 Рік тому +1

    The ship is just too damn expensive. As much as I want one, they could have thrown a bone and sold this in build a set sections. Each playset a piece of the whole.
    It's bad enough that you have to fight to get the leftover crack 5 point figures, this to me just adds insult to injury.
    I can't even get enough of these figures to get excited over. I tried to get into the joes, and missed the mark on some of the ones I really wanted. The figures are just meh. The hook is the filecards, which Has-Been can't even be bothered with to make.
    The figures remind me of bumped up Star Wars figures from Kenner.

  • @rynohobbies
    @rynohobbies Рік тому +4

    Great show gentlemen. I caught the replay. Tony had me dying when he mentioned Thailand.☠ He's not wrong.

  • @derekholgate6345
    @derekholgate6345 Рік тому

    I wish they sold the 5 pack O Ring figures separately! That's the only thing I'm interested in.

  • @lazylefthand
    @lazylefthand Рік тому

    Amazon really got customers spoiled with their shipping rates.

  • @househendoe7549
    @househendoe7549 Рік тому

    What about a new Action Points figure, Rollout as BA or Murdock spin on Desert Rat movie modern?
    The line alongside Biblical Adventures on KS I think you mean is Almighty Legends which is Warrior Angels and Riders of the Apocalypse with army builder bucks.

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 Рік тому +1

    Considering the 2 cobra figures from Has-Been were 50.00, the price point for a army builder is laughable.
    You guys discussion was relatively tame to how I'm talking about it...
    The more I see it, the more it pisses me off.

  • @cptoyscollection
    @cptoyscollection Рік тому +3

    The Vipers five pack has it's own shipping cost $10. Total shipping cost = 110.58. Un-fucking- beliavable...🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @LORDHAMMOFYT
    @LORDHAMMOFYT Рік тому

    1:16:57 perfect drop, LP 😂

  • @Strateggo
    @Strateggo Рік тому

    Seriously though, I live across the street from S7, and Vala is making a gr8 point. Dude, why tf would I pay $100 since I could pick it up from you guys free… 🤦

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Рік тому

    At 1:19 a guy says Hasblow only has $15 figures...??? Must be a Typo. I'm pretty sure those big figs are at least $25 at Wally world.

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 Рік тому

      You can find a remarkably broad selection of Hasbro’s figs, across all lines, at Ollie’s and Ross. All at or under $15. ;)

  • @Digger318
    @Digger318 Рік тому +1

    extra or no extra, they are beautiful in Thailand 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

  • @robertsinfiniterealms1308
    @robertsinfiniterealms1308 Рік тому +1

    If the price was comparable to the offering I’d be all over this. In fairness it’s got Fischer-price adventurer people level of detailing. There’s nothing wrong with that but the price should match. It doesn’t and that keeps me from even thinking about it.

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Рік тому

    Legal battle with a Church?... What about IHOP? Most think Pancakes, but I've been to the Int. House of Prayer in Kansas City.

  • @justinmohan7103
    @justinmohan7103 Рік тому +1

    There are lots of great indie O-Ring companies now, so there are lots more options besides Hasbro and there are new stories

  • @Strateggo
    @Strateggo Рік тому

    A few years ago, when big toys crowdfunds were a new thing, and collectors still had space, I’d have backed this in a heartbeat.
    With this said, $600 + tax, in 2023, after years of big toys crowdfunds, it’s borderline stupid. These companies have all tapped in the same wallets, there are probably 15/20,000 people in the entire world who have bought many of the big stuff like Galactus, the barge, MOTUs, sentinel etc and 90% of us just don’t have 5000 square feet mansions with a play room to display all of them at once, or even a couple.
    At some point, these guys need to be a little more clever about what they’re bringing to market. At this stage it’s just greed.

  • @DareDevilDave75
    @DareDevilDave75 Рік тому

    Why not give us the huge Terror Drome from the movie?!

  • @78pts.of.articulation
    @78pts.of.articulation Рік тому +2

    Replay crew! 4L haha

  • @NinjaKnight
    @NinjaKnight Рік тому

    Ah gutted it's kapow that are stocking Action Force and not Forbidden Planet. Kapow means EU customers will get hit by customs and I've had negative experiences with Kapow as well as others I know so I'll stick to ordering from Valaverse and BBTS instead of giving them the custom. Appreciate the effort.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому +1

      Sorry man, hopefully there will be more options in the future

    • @NinjaKnight
      @NinjaKnight Рік тому

      @@3POAPodcast hopefully so. I can just keep buying from Valaverse and BBTS so no biggie. It's awesome to hear Vala would be interested in the Lord Of The Rings licence that would be phenomenal.

  • @Strateggo
    @Strateggo Рік тому

    You guys talk about price, but collectors have a problem of space. We’ve bought a ton of these big toys. Why buying another one if it’s putting it in storage?!

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому

      We also talked about space.

    • @Strateggo
      @Strateggo Рік тому

      @@3POAPodcast yes you did, but I’m emphasizing it to say that, at this stage, after buying so many of these big price tags crowdfunded toys, we just don’t have any space any more. It doesn’t matter if it’s $50 or $500. That’s why I’m not even touching Giant Man, and it could be sold at $99 I still wouldn’t buy it because I don’t have space beyond Galactus, Sentinel, some of the big SW ships, TFs etc. I’m like Vala, my wife shouts in my ears to make space for a kids room rather than daddy’s toys… and with a $600+tax + buying extra figs to make the playset alive (so $750?), it’s just too many reasons this cobra thing isn’t going to be part of my collection.

  • @flameduelist81
    @flameduelist81 Рік тому

    An awesome idea, an awesome project but a very very unrealistic price.

  • @jonboldrey5339
    @jonboldrey5339 Рік тому

    In the hangover 2 that was a woman. They gave her a .....💪🇺🇸🍻🇦🇺😉

  • @briandain8432
    @briandain8432 Рік тому +1

    That Airship is weetardid. It's a tiny front control room and a hanger.... The Hasblow Kreo GIJOEs were ingenious!! If you want BIG VEHICLES & PLAYSETS go 2 inches, or at least the Mega-Con style 3 inche, you can do SO MUCH MORE with Tinier figures. Imagine if all Valaverse was available in a Minifig scale?

  • @k-dawgbroadcasting5444
    @k-dawgbroadcasting5444 Рік тому +1

    Did Bobby seriously think Utah was north of Cali?? And he's American? Damn, Oregon gets no love...

  • @theguyonthecouch42024
    @theguyonthecouch42024 Рік тому

    How did toys became Wallstreet 🙃💰💸 why can't collectors get those campaign$. At this point it only caters to those big baller$.

    • @ChapMeifan
      @ChapMeifan Рік тому +1

      That's the demographic they want to cater to. This isn't for kids or collectors with regular incomes. Super 7 wants to be the go-to guy for expensive stuff you never thought you would get. Problem is, the big ballers are not as plentiful as they want and they are pricing us regular collectors and toy fans out of their product. I'm in Canada and a basic Reaction figure costs me about $30 with around $17 shipping. As much as I like Jughead and Dee Snyder, I'm not insane enough to spend that kind of cash.

    • @Strateggo
      @Strateggo Рік тому

      You’re wrong. You’re assuming S7 has done some market research, the way Hasbro or Mattel do it. These guys can’t afford market research, they don’t know how to do it, and it wouldn’t be worth it anyhow given how niche those toys are.
      At this stage, greed, hubris, reality distortion from living in the Bay Area are why the price point is so high and why the product is even made. They took the previous numbers from the Cat Lair campaign, and added in some of the numbers for the Joe’s campaigns on Hasbro. The end. If you think their toys are crap, then believe you me their market research is inexistent.

    • @ChapMeifan
      @ChapMeifan Рік тому

      That's actually a really good point. I assume Super 7 does market research but if they don't that explains a lot.@@Strateggo

  • @hammertronactionfigures2426
    @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +3

    American factories have a two year lead time to learn how to make articulated figures?
    They are wasting time. They should be learning how to make action figures now so they can be ready to pick up any slack.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому +2

      Even if they did that the figures they make would be unaffordable for most. No one wants to pay $90for a basic Classified figure.

    • @hammertronactionfigures2426
      @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +2

      @@3POAPodcast Yes, there are larger issues that need to be addressed.
      Nonetheless, American manufacturers in the USA really should be working to make sure they are prepared for changes.

    • @kiltedcripple
      @kiltedcripple Рік тому

      ​@@hammertronactionfigures2426dude, there's no margin in toys. The biggest toy makers in the world don't make money on toys, they make money licensing those IPs to more lucrative mediums. And they're already using cheap Chinese labor.
      If/ when the Chinese move on from being the manufacturer of choice for plastic goods, maybe, wherever those manufacturing plants end up becomes the new hub for articulated action figures, but most likely, the hobby dies. There is no scenario in which a US for-profit company takes over making toys. You have a better chance of Beta max coming back after the collapse of streaming.

    • @hammertronactionfigures2426
      @hammertronactionfigures2426 Рік тому +1

      @@kiltedcripple What?
      No money in toys?
      What are you talking about?
      Why do you think Disney bought Marvel and Lucasfuilm?
      Disney wanted to make money from the toys.
      If, for whatever reason, USA companies are not able to use factories over seas then they need to be ready to switch manufacturing back to the USA.
      There are many factors that need to be addressed to bring an end to the absurdly high costs of doing things in the USA.

    • @kiltedcripple
      @kiltedcripple Рік тому

      @@hammertronactionfigures2426 you've misquoted me. I didn't say no money, I said no margin. And look at Mattel and Hasbro's earnings statements, sales are down, prices are up, profits being recorded on brands are largely the product of licensing. Seriously, Magic the Gathering and D&D are the only reason Hasbro is profitable, every other sector, including boys toys, is losing money. That's why D&D got a quarter of a billion dollar movie and you were asked to over pay for a helicopter.
      Ever wonder why the toy aisle keeps shrinking? Especially action figures? There's no margin there, too much product goes to clearance. Stroll through the electronic section, see if the TV selection has gotten smaller. There's double the square footage given to video games, and no one buys discs anymore.
      Seriously, go listen to any of the podcasts or live streams by guys who work or worked in the business, those stupid shampoo bottle figures with 3 poa make most of the money made in boys action figures, and they're still barely exceeding the cost to produce and distribute.
      Seriously dude, do you think Mattel or Hasbro would resort to crowd funding, where they enjoy 100% of the revenue, if they thought they could move units in a Walmart? They're lucky to get 12,000 people to buy a Sentinel, if they sold that in Walmart, that's 3 for every Walmart in the US, they aren't confident that they could sell 3 Sentinels in every Walmart for a profit.
      There's no profit margin in action figures, not for the scale of big box retail at least. And the community gets smaller every year, so it will continue to dry up.

  • @el_covfefe
    @el_covfefe Рік тому

    My issue is Super7 hasn't earned this level trust

  • @justinmohan7103
    @justinmohan7103 Рік тому

    I think its cool, it didn't have to be that big and the price should be less. I think 24" would have been better. Disco is not dead, either lol.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu-disco#:~:text=Nu%2Ddisco%20is%20a%2021st,mild%20resurgence%20in%20the%202010s.

    • @3POAPodcast
      @3POAPodcast  Рік тому

      I don’t care if disco is dead or not, the title of the show is a call back to a line of dialogue from cobra commander.