Great points. It would be interesting to see a video about some of the psychology behind some of what you're talking about here, like how each of us sort of feel like everything in life revolves around ourselves, which may minimize how deep most of us care about the bigger picture and what comes after. On the other hand, though, I think the world is slowly changing in the right direction, like how much more mindful we are beginning to be about PFAS in production, and how the public can demand companies to change.
Thank you for this insightful post! Actually, a very interesting recent study shows that human expansion since 12,000 years has been extremely beneficial to biodiversity… until 1800 A.D. It is the fossile fuels revolution that reversed radically this trend in less than 200 years. The conclusion of this study is that our best hope to mitigate and reverse the biodiversity collapse, is to apply modern technologies to old agricultural practices, and get out of fossile fuels. ua-cam.com/video/gVl_em25nDo/v-deo.htmlsi=Xz5-I5U5doK3QV7D
That is one of the most pointless, load of junk papers I have ever read. I do not have the time to point out all the mistakes. I doubt the humans will make it out of this century and that is without the risk of nuclear annihilation.
However, tomorrow is another day - filled with people doing the same as they did yesterday. It baffles me that people are fine watching such videos as this, listening/watching the news, discussing climate change (as I did with my next door neighbour yesterday. But whereas I am planting seedling trees in a nursery bed, coppicing older trees to grow back faster and better, laying a brash hedge for the purpose of supplying shelter for small animals/insects, stacking leaves for mulch and compost making, and planning the next set of cuttings - my neighbour does the same things she does every day, living a high consumer lifestyle. That's what worries me most - the concern is there, but the action isn't; and you really don't have to do that much to start helping the planet. Go No-Mow for starters - save yourself a boring job, watch the wild flowers and creatures move in, save money, and reduce pollution all at the same time. I've been No-Mow for 22 years. Lizards moved into my garden last year. A new type of solitary bee, 4 new wild flowers bloomed for the first time, and a new type of frog moved in this year, and it's been like this every year since I got shot of that noisy, smelly mower. It's that simple t.o make a difference, and little more effort to make a bigger difference. Most people simply don't want to change, wanting everyone else to do the effort for them - as society has become lazier, needier, finding more ways to make excuses for their inaction on multiple things.
Impact = Population * Affluence * Technology People tend to forget about the affluence part, or not appreciate its facets. But I don't think that climate activists - you flashed Thunberg as an example - are unaware of this fact. Or that people think saving the planet is "positive simply because it is easy". That seems detached from the actual discourse
Good point! The reason why I flashed climate activists because there is a market/trend on social media and people make entire careers out of activism without necessarily being genuine about it
@@travel9to5 I don't necessarily disagree with the broad point. My issue is that it's so broad and universally applicable to any social movement. To keep a line like that in the script, I think you'd need a) real examples of this behavior, b) a demonstration that its more severe than base-line and c) exploration on how these grifters are causing harm exactly. Otherwise it feels like an unproductive attempt to undermine the movement
Thanks for the valuable comment. I intended the video as a shorter piece to get the thought process rolling but a deeper dive towards those grifters would be a really good idea for a dedicated video! Thanks for the thoughts 💭
It's very wealthy western of you to assume it's about convinience. That could be true for you, could be true for many in the world, but let me tell you there are billions of ppl living much below a certain assumed convinience level, and the "funny" thing is that they are much more likely to suffer from the consequences of what the much more "ravenous" part of the world unleashed. Beside that, Im not big on blaming individuals, it's a systematic problem and should be changed top down as the most polluting 100 company does similar harm than the rest of the world combined. They have the power to steer the system toward sustainability, not you and me Here is an example: Working from home in home office actually a lot more enviromentally fiendly than commuting to the office everyday so you can sit in front of a computer you have at home or in your handbag anyway. Every metric support this policy, even productivity (which suppose to be important for the business) YET there is a push to shepherd everyone back to the office and back to the hours long fossil fueled commute, so they have to heat or AC the offices too. All because they like direct control over their workers, even though thta's not good for anyone, not even for their own bottom line. Is it more convinient ? Hell no. But it was top down decided, so its getting pushed through no matter what most ppl wants. I would rather say, sometimes sensible solutions would be just fine to mitigate enviromental damage, and it can be but, it's not necessarily about just convinience or feeling good.
You made very good points and I agree that governments and companies have to act but I don’t really see how you can blame such a complex topic on “being western” and you know nothing about my wealth. It affects us all equally so let’s work together and not draw artificial lines in the sand of being western/eastern/northern/whatever. Thanks for watching
*_Stop blaming individuals!_* We can't solve climate change without government action. Videos like this benefit the oil industry by portraying the problem to be individuals' choices, not government policy. Nothing is going to convince billions of people to change their lifestyle (not even this video). The change has to be collective. When you blame people's choices, you alleviate blame from the fossil fuel industry and take the pressure off politicians to end it. Furthermore, the amount of personal sacrifice required would be *_FAR_* less if the changes were made at the source. For example, the individual choice to live without single-use plastic is hugely inconvenient in a word where *_everything_* seems wrapped in plastic. *_BUT_* if single use plastic was banned, the producers would be forced to find alternatives. The sacrifice made by individuals would be minimal.
Thanks for the comment and very good point! Companies and governments drive most of the impact. However keep in mind - I am a UA-camr and I can use my platform to raise awareness by speaking to individuals. Don’t get me wrong - I would love to pressure BP or Shell but their executives are not watching and neither gonna care :) keep going and spread the word
@@travel9to5Politicians aren't going to implement policy without public demanding it. You're reducing public demand for policy change by saying individual choices are meaningful.
@@travel9to5 No, the takeaway is to focus attention on something that's going to make a huge difference rather than distracting people's attention away from it.
Making this a human centered problem instead of a system centered one is quite reductionist, as if the only reason for problems with the planet is a innate human original sin/greed. It is not. There are plenty of examples of people, groups, governments and etc. living sustainably and healthily with their environment. It is bad systems that cause the problems, not some strange a vague illusion to "Human greed/psychology". That might be true for some small cases, but not when we are talking about large scale gas emissions or corrupt/bad corporate decision making, or corrupt/dysfunctional governments producing waste. You need only look at functional, non-corrupt, truly democratic and largely non-corporate states like Switzerland, the Nordics or just recently France to see how when we don't subscribe to the broken systems of dictatorship, first-past-the-post democracy, unrestricted privatization and give more power to the people, employees and workers in countries, you get sustainable, livable and wonderful outcomes, instead of when you give all the power to elites, corporate oligarchs, managers, priests and patriarchs.
Thanks for the comment - very good point, but IMO it’s not just about systems or people-it’s the interaction between them. Systems shape behavior, but people still have choices. Sustainable practices in some places show it’s possible, but broad change requires both system shifts and individual responsibility working together.
I think complacency of the masses gives these systems a huge enabling factor. These systems are literally built around the weaknesses in human psychology OP mentioned. I think blaming systems in themselves is just another way to push responsibility away. But maybe there really is no solution if the answer is a problem with human/mammal psychology en masse - you can't really give a whole species therapy.
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Great points. It would be interesting to see a video about some of the psychology behind some of what you're talking about here, like how each of us sort of feel like everything in life revolves around ourselves, which may minimize how deep most of us care about the bigger picture and what comes after.
On the other hand, though, I think the world is slowly changing in the right direction, like how much more mindful we are beginning to be about PFAS in production, and how the public can demand companies to change.
Great video, randomly saw it on UA-cam.
Cheers
Thank you for this insightful post! Actually, a very interesting recent study shows that human expansion since 12,000 years has been extremely beneficial to biodiversity… until 1800 A.D. It is the fossile fuels revolution that reversed radically this trend in less than 200 years. The conclusion of this study is that our best hope to mitigate and reverse the biodiversity collapse, is to apply modern technologies to old agricultural practices, and get out of fossile fuels.
ua-cam.com/video/gVl_em25nDo/v-deo.htmlsi=Xz5-I5U5doK3QV7D
That is one of the most pointless, load of junk papers I have ever read. I do not have the time to point out all the mistakes.
I doubt the humans will make it out of this century and that is without the risk of nuclear annihilation.
However, tomorrow is another day - filled with people doing the same as they did yesterday.
It baffles me that people are fine watching such videos as this, listening/watching the news, discussing climate change (as I did with my next door neighbour yesterday. But whereas I am planting seedling trees in a nursery bed, coppicing older trees to grow back faster and better, laying a brash hedge for the purpose of supplying shelter for small animals/insects, stacking leaves for mulch and compost making, and planning the next set of cuttings - my neighbour does the same things she does every day, living a high consumer lifestyle.
That's what worries me most - the concern is there, but the action isn't; and you really don't have to do that much to start helping the planet.
Go No-Mow for starters - save yourself a boring job, watch the wild flowers and creatures move in, save money, and reduce pollution all at the same time.
I've been No-Mow for 22 years. Lizards moved into my garden last year. A new type of solitary bee, 4 new wild flowers bloomed for the first time, and a new type of frog moved in this year, and it's been like this every year since I got shot of that noisy, smelly mower.
It's that simple t.o make a difference, and little more effort to make a bigger difference.
Most people simply don't want to change, wanting everyone else to do the effort for them - as society has become lazier, needier, finding more ways to make excuses for their inaction on multiple things.
Impact = Population * Affluence * Technology
People tend to forget about the affluence part, or not appreciate its facets. But I don't think that climate activists - you flashed Thunberg as an example - are unaware of this fact. Or that people think saving the planet is "positive simply because it is easy". That seems detached from the actual discourse
Good point! The reason why I flashed climate activists because there is a market/trend on social media and people make entire careers out of activism without necessarily being genuine about it
@@travel9to5 I don't necessarily disagree with the broad point. My issue is that it's so broad and universally applicable to any social movement. To keep a line like that in the script, I think you'd need a) real examples of this behavior, b) a demonstration that its more severe than base-line and c) exploration on how these grifters are causing harm exactly. Otherwise it feels like an unproductive attempt to undermine the movement
@@travel9to5 Though I get it was a side comment only. I guess an appropriate example would've been enough
Thanks for the valuable comment. I intended the video as a shorter piece to get the thought process rolling but a deeper dive towards those grifters would be a really good idea for a dedicated video! Thanks for the thoughts 💭
I want to do something to help I want to speak out to the whole world we need to do something but we need people to help! This world is doomed
When do I see the planet explode? 👎
Hating on a climate awareness video 👎🏻
Less than what the title was doing. Don't be a fag.
I don't get what's so awesome about destroying the world
yea me neither. yet people are still complicit...
We make room for new forms of life. Humans have been there long enough.
It's very wealthy western of you to assume it's about convinience. That could be true for you, could be true for many in the world, but let me tell you there are billions of ppl living much below a certain assumed convinience level, and the "funny" thing is that they are much more likely to suffer from the consequences of what the much more "ravenous" part of the world unleashed.
Beside that, Im not big on blaming individuals, it's a systematic problem and should be changed top down as the most polluting 100 company does similar harm than the rest of the world combined. They have the power to steer the system toward sustainability, not you and me
Here is an example: Working from home in home office actually a lot more enviromentally fiendly than commuting to the office everyday so you can sit in front of a computer you have at home or in your handbag anyway. Every metric support this policy, even productivity (which suppose to be important for the business) YET there is a push to shepherd everyone back to the office and back to the hours long fossil fueled commute, so they have to heat or AC the offices too. All because they like direct control over their workers, even though thta's not good for anyone, not even for their own bottom line. Is it more convinient ? Hell no. But it was top down decided, so its getting pushed through no matter what most ppl wants.
I would rather say, sometimes sensible solutions would be just fine to mitigate enviromental damage, and it can be but, it's not necessarily about just convinience or feeling good.
You made very good points and I agree that governments and companies have to act but I don’t really see how you can blame such a complex topic on “being western” and you know nothing about my wealth. It affects us all equally so let’s work together and not draw artificial lines in the sand of being western/eastern/northern/whatever. Thanks for watching
So wheres your real scientific info oh you got none
Your point?
*_Stop blaming individuals!_* We can't solve climate change without government action. Videos like this benefit the oil industry by portraying the problem to be individuals' choices, not government policy.
Nothing is going to convince billions of people to change their lifestyle (not even this video). The change has to be collective. When you blame people's choices, you alleviate blame from the fossil fuel industry and take the pressure off politicians to end it.
Furthermore, the amount of personal sacrifice required would be *_FAR_* less if the changes were made at the source. For example, the individual choice to live without single-use plastic is hugely inconvenient in a word where *_everything_* seems wrapped in plastic. *_BUT_* if single use plastic was banned, the producers would be forced to find alternatives. The sacrifice made by individuals would be minimal.
Thanks for the comment and very good point! Companies and governments drive most of the impact. However keep in mind - I am a UA-camr and I can use my platform to raise awareness by speaking to individuals. Don’t get me wrong - I would love to pressure BP or Shell but their executives are not watching and neither gonna care :) keep going and spread the word
@@travel9to5Politicians aren't going to implement policy without public demanding it. You're reducing public demand for policy change by saying individual choices are meaningful.
@@travel9to5This video is making climate change *_worse_* not better.
sorry but that makes no sense. the takeaway is no to give up on it
@@travel9to5 No, the takeaway is to focus attention on something that's going to make a huge difference rather than distracting people's attention away from it.
Making this a human centered problem instead of a system centered one is quite reductionist, as if the only reason for problems with the planet is a innate human original sin/greed. It is not. There are plenty of examples of people, groups, governments and etc. living sustainably and healthily with their environment. It is bad systems that cause the problems, not some strange a vague illusion to "Human greed/psychology". That might be true for some small cases, but not when we are talking about large scale gas emissions or corrupt/bad corporate decision making, or corrupt/dysfunctional governments producing waste.
You need only look at functional, non-corrupt, truly democratic and largely non-corporate states like Switzerland, the Nordics or just recently France to see how when we don't subscribe to the broken systems of dictatorship, first-past-the-post democracy, unrestricted privatization and give more power to the people, employees and workers in countries, you get sustainable, livable and wonderful outcomes, instead of when you give all the power to elites, corporate oligarchs, managers, priests and patriarchs.
Thanks for the comment - very good point, but IMO it’s not just about systems or people-it’s the interaction between them. Systems shape behavior, but people still have choices. Sustainable practices in some places show it’s possible, but broad change requires both system shifts and individual responsibility working together.
I think complacency of the masses gives these systems a huge enabling factor. These systems are literally built around the weaknesses in human psychology OP mentioned. I think blaming systems in themselves is just another way to push responsibility away. But maybe there really is no solution if the answer is a problem with human/mammal psychology en masse - you can't really give a whole species therapy.