Tiny EV Vs. Big Hill Rematch! Will This Electric Tuk Tuk Make It Up A Colorado Mountain?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) We tested the $6,995 Echo 3 last year - a locally-built electric car that claims up to 55 miles on a single charge - by driving it up a mountain just outside Denver, and it didn't make the trip. Now, this $8,850 version packs a newer lithium-ion battery and more power, but will Nathan have any more luck up the same mountain? Let's find out!
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"Fat guy in a little coat" (if you get the reference) doesn't have anything on Nathan in a tiny EV! A fun, and informative, vid. Well done!
I like Nathan, but farley was the GOAT!
I can see these being a godsend to someone in a wheelchair. Already hand controls, easy ingress/egress, room for the chair in the back, and enough performance and capacity for a great urban runabout.
I could see these things selling in retirement communities
Just looked at that in UK it costs £7000 sterling, similar mobility scooter, only one seat, top speed 29mph, no a/c, range of 20 miles is £6999.
I'd definitely spend the extra £1 and have the space, range and comfort of tuktuk for going shops or visiting locally.
Thumbs up
Maybe on golf courses.
I imagine a lot of seniors who have joint issues wouldn't care for those motorcycle hand controls.
@@gyneve wouldn't suit some, but some of the mobility scooters come with choice of motorcycle controls, tiller or "D" bar controls depending upon user.
@@DavidJohnston58 All Mobility scooter comes with one seat that seat in the back isn't really a seat is use for carrying stuff they get this from china you can get them with AC/heater and the back up camera and radio they get them for next to nothing then reselling them as if its a car
Nice job...I still remember the one from last year.. can't believe it has been a year already... thanks Nathan ☺
0- 35 in 12 Seconds?? How do they keep tires on that thing? Total drifting machine.
And he said that the performance was “amazing”.
It has special rims to keep tires from falling off with all that power
For sure. Golf cart tires & wheels are not cheap! :)
@@richardchurch3146 ahahaha :)
Compared to a 49cc scooter which is how that thing is classified....well...actually the scooter is likely faster, but it doesn't have A/C and rain protection! I like it!
No matter the vehicle Nathan you never disappoint.. appreciate the hard work TFL 👍🏼
This could be a good option for food delivery services, although a few months back I saw them testing autonomous food delivery robot things in LA. So that may be futile
New movie for 2020 staring these vehicles “Gone in 60 hours”. It’s kind of a reboot.
Let’s LS swap it 😊
Too small. I'm thinking Hayabusa!
Or hayabusa
2jz
12 valve cummins hahahahaha
@@1guyin10 Same thing I'm thinkin'! They work great in a Smart For 2!...& in one of these it'd be pretty comparable but with the added fun of bein' able ta ride some wheelies too!😂
DO A TEST
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It would be great in suburban communities. Hell it would be nice on a golf course.
Still expensive at 9000$
On ali express they go for ~ 3000 usd with the lead acid battery.
It´s an electric tuktuk for the big cities... I liked.
Wondering when it will be featured doing the IKE Gauntlet pulling a fully loaded Radio Flyer red wagon?
For around-town commuting, this thing looks very promising. Especially now since it has a/c & heating. That's a big plus for those of us that live in the southern states where it gets very hot and muggy. I'm definitely very intrigued.
Provided you don't get snow ...
@@tomstdenis I wouldn't know. It typically doesn't snow in Florida. Lol
@@iceman45ification1 But it has :-)
@@tomstdenis yeah it did. Back in '77 in Miami. I was just 8 year old. Lol
Yeah yeah & it snows in Hollywood California too (but not typically).
I really need one of these! If I wasn't living in the Northeast, I would definitely invest in an Echo. You can't go wrong at less than 10K. I can see the golf cart market taking a hit. Country Clubs are going to increase Echo sales though the roof. Not to mention, the retirement communities are going to love these. What other vehicles can you buy for less that includes AC & Heat?
I love the parts with the owner talking about it. He really knows his product.
YOU SHOULD HAVE DRIVEN IT DOWN THE MOUNTAIN TO SEE IF THE BRAKES WORK AND THE HOW MUCH THE BATTERY REGENS
Yeah I was disappointed he didn't drive it down the hill.
@@scubatrucker6806 MAYBE NATHAN WAS AFRAID OF GOING OFF THE CLIFF
Nathan said elsewhere that there is no regen capability.
@@jamesbeaman6337 I'D STILL LIKE TO SEE HIM HIT 60 GOING DOWNHILL
Can you get one with a basket in front? Ill be taking this beauty to walmart!
The rear seat will hold plenty of groceries
"Last time I passed a cyclists, it was a major race." Lol.
I want to buy one just to put a crotch rocket engine on it 😂😂😂
Yeah go find some wrecked motorcycle and do it
9k
Rental car companies are willing to deal on all the airport dust collectors in 2020.
Or a REALLY NICE used motorcycle, ATV, UTV, ....
I wanna see that new 6.6 gas v8 in tuk tuk
Nathan in tiny cars makes me laugh
Still showing a full battery, sounds like a software issue. Would have liked to see the actually battery levels.
It showed voltage. 79 to 75 volts isn't much drop in capacity.
@@lilsammywasapunkrock Yeah, it didn't lose that much. maybe 1/3 to 1/2? If it's got Li Ion batteries then around 60v would be drained to a safe level. If it has Li iron phosphate cells then it would be "dead" at a lower voltage such as 55v. So there was plenty of range left. The last test with the old batteries was pretty much the worst possible scenario for Lead acid batteries, the faster you pull power from them the less capacity they can give you. Modern Li ion and Life batteries don't care how fast you drain them, you still get the same energy out that you put in them.... plus they hold at a minimum 2x more power than lead acid.
The discharge voltage curve on Li-ions are flat. You can not use a voltmeter..
They should have installed a shunt, so you could count how many Ah you have used.
Every battery management system I've ever seen for lithium battery uses voltage for a start and end scale.
For instance, my model airplanes charge lipos up to 4.2v per cell. Storage voltage is 3.7v per cell and low voltage cutoff is 3.3v per cell.
@@lilsammywasapunkrock yes, the top end the bottom of the voltage curve has a sharp change on lithium batteries, but not the middle.
A BMS that keeps note of the SOC needs occasional to see these voltage changes to recalibrate the SOC (as it can drift over time).
This is why in the user manual for my car instructs to drain the battery below 20% followed by a full charge every 3 months...
The price is great, but the top speed is really the only issue I have with it. I currently have a 11 year old Camry with 100k miles as a second vehicle. I dont drive it often (less than 1k miles per year), and I've been looking to get rid if it and replace it with a cheap EV I can use around town and tow with my truck (my other vehicle is a 21 year old tacoma modified for overlanding), but 35mph is just too slow as most roads around here are 45-55mph.
I also live in south Texas with 100+ summers, so battery cooling is also very important. I'm curious to see how the Echo 3 holds up in extremely hot climates.
Cool Tuk Tuk! I'd buy one. I wonder if there are attachments to turn it into a snowmobile.
Maybe you can modify it but there is an option for snow tires
doubt it would be too hard to have something made up.
Hope your recovery is going well. I would hate to meet the milk truck hauler or a semi and cow trailer on a tight corner, somehow I think they would take it as a challenge to squeeze you off the road. I could see this as a good choice for getting around a city especially when I was in college this would have been great to get around to get to work but how does it handle in the snow?
I mean, I get it. This definitely has a place in the world, but at that price point? You could get a disco 3 and still have money left over for insurance....or repairs. IMO that is way too much money for what you are getting when you consider the used car market. At first the cheap insurance had me interested but then you gotta shell out 9 grand for the good model. You can get a REALLY nice used car for that much money.
I would prefer buying a used Electric Smart Car.
I think the benefit of buying these is the savings on insurance. when compared with a car
I could see it more in areas with tiny streets like Philippines
3/4 of a smart car. :) Nathan, it is good to see you up and moving about doing vids.
Its a fascinating Niche the low powered scooter market, thats as nice a machine as you can get thats equivelant to a 49cc scooter. 9000$ but probably will last forever and cost virtually nothing to insure
egister\drive. The tow behind concept is very interesting, I like the guy too, pretty cool. Next year 70hp and 140v system with triple the capacity and we're talkin!
Sorry, but it's not a fair test if you don't put the air-conditioning on when you otherwise would.
I didn't use AC last time. What's the problem?
Nothing to do with last time; with any other car you would not have done that.
Kevin Barry We did our best to repeat the same damn conditions.
I'd like to see this go round the top gear test track. See if stiggy can get a bit of extra performance out of it! Heh
"35 mph in 12 seconds... Amazing preformance"
It's a LSV...
Now they're only 20 years behind pen-ùltium battery tech..
What are they classified in Michigan? How many colors do they come in?? Are they very expensive to buy/recharge??
Half of a Smart car.....
Seats 3...
This sort of vehicle has captured my interest for quite some time. But at the same time it has always made me wonder if it's even legal drive here on actual roads in the states. Wouldn't it need like a license plate and go through inspection to get a safety inspection sticker? And also, what kind of auto shop would you turn to if something needs to be repaired? I want one, but these questions deter me from actually importing one.
Also you might get 30% of the charge back heading down the hill with regen.
Ship it to MOPAR they’ll Hell Cat that thing,,,,imagined Danger Zone Theme playing, Nathan in a helmet with Maverick on it, sidewinder fired and a Tesla explodes.
Ike Gauntlet time! Count the brake applications of other drivers! 😂
Looks like a decently reasonable person mover for warmer climates. Those tires though are like half the size of even my Bolt EV tires and through snow I can't imagine how they would handle....
looks cool but i prefer the reverse trike configuration a fat single tire in the rear looks cooler.i wonder if the renault twizzy will get to the usa?
Up here in Canada they call them mobily scooters
Now let's see if it can handle a Massachusetts winter
Do you need to register or is it legal to ride it
Whaaat? Almost $9000? That's crazy expensive! Those things cost below $3,500 here in Asia, and it's considered expensive. You can get a decent sedan for that price.
You can buy used sports cars for $9000. The West always surprises me. No wonder rich Asians migrate there. I'm always culture shocked by these videos that's why I'm so hooked!
BROOO NEW VID LETS GO
$5.50 for a 3 year tag.... *gazes wistfully.*
I'm still paying over $400 a year to register my 2018 car in Colorado, and $73 a year for my 2007.
Where can I get one of these, how much are these and do you need a special license for it??
Problem with three wheelers have is tendency to roll and fall on its side if you go into a curve too fast.
it can be easy to recovered by one adult because it's light weight but, it's embarrassing.
But for short drive, like going to a grocery store and back, nothing else beats it.
Reliant robin on lithium. Does it tip??
I'd rather walk .
Judging by the waistlines... Not many people do in the USA and certainly not in cali 😉 here the car is king and always will be!
Californians are in the top 5 fittest states. (Probably so they look good on the beach.)
I'd swap it for my bike any day.
Cool I'd rather not, especially when it's raining.
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I’ve been looking at these recently here(Indonesia) they’ve been around for quite some time now imported from China. I still have no idea how it would register here. 😅 then again my translation skills to navigate the government websites isn’t really that good either
Cool I have one but I'm not sure about how the fob key works. This morning my alarm was going on it for ages before it stopped but I don't know how I stopped it. Do you know how the fob key works?
please can you tel me were the fuse box is my one has lost power it's only done 50 miles and its ded and it won't even except a charger
Remember when they banded three wheelers.. This one is next
Ok I was thinking of a food delivery vehicle but yeah this would be fantastic for RVing! The thing is charging but most big RVers go to powered sites anyways. Yeah if your RVing this would be a fantastic grocery and site site seer from the RV park.
Great video. Love the car also
So in winter in Denver???
Followed by the Model X (not following the X)!
Also, does this EV regen when going downhill?
"Also, does this EV regen when going downhill?"
Good question! I was going to ask that myself. Regenerative braking is one of the big advantages of electric vehicles.
Can we get a practical assessment of performance and comfort and handling with 2 regular size and weight passengers
That’s a luxury DUI mobile.
I mean, you guys do so much EV analysis at this point, you may as well be called that already. You're the only place where I have gotten good EV towing data, limited as it is.
I've actually been bugging Rivan pretty consistently trying to get them to give you something for Testing, but so far nothing.
More of these types of videos please!
what type of insurance do you need?
Where can I get one of these in Wisconsin
Electric has so many negatives to good ol gasoline!!!
I want to like it but the laws of physics informs me that having the 2 wheels at the back give it less stability around corners and much less breaking power because about %70 of your breaking force happens at the front but here you only have 1 wheel...Why not have the 2 wheels at the front?
No different than how 3 wheel scooters & motorcycles are designed. They don’t have a difficult time braking
On the other hand, 2 wherls in the front & 1 in the back would improve aerodynamics. It would be shaped closer to the ideal teardrop shape.
@@electrictroy2010 No difference? Not sure how you go about forming such flat out wrong opinions, two wheels at the front has more braking power than 1 and it takes more force to make them tip around corners. Its not up for debate, physics won the argument a long time ago.
Het Nathan! What’s up with the foot? You’ve had those bionic exoskeleton/ cast for a few years now? Hope everything gets better.
$9,000 ! OMG Tuk Tuk USA wanted $25,000 and I don't think they had a heater or a/c
How many prizes? And ditels infometion
If it just looked a little bit more "sporty", like the Carver One, this would be a great toy to mess around town in.
Do this have already in the Philippines?
...and I thought your electric Smart was small enough haha
From behind it looks like one car on top of another 🤣
Its a good idea and I like it as a toy but would you feel safe in it? My town is a beach town so it is filled with soccer mom SUVs and big trucks. For me driving that around every day would be a bit scare when you go from being one of the biggest vehicles on the road to the smallest.
Do you have EV showroom in India as it will have lot of demand in India
EVERY ONE OFFERS THE BEST , BUT NO ONE ARRIVES TO THE MARKET , AND PRICES ARE VERY DIFFERENT ( IS FROM 2000 US TO 9000 DIFFERENCE ) .
Can I put a hemi in it?
Hey there Nathan, you pronounce Tuk-tuk as "TOOK-TOOK".. 😉😉😉
When Nathan pronounces a word differently, the world takes notice and changes their ways accordingly! Why doesn't everyone know this?!
i was just telling him the proper thou..
I get we have a long way to go and 50 miles isn’t bad. But I’d rather not have to wait 4 hours to use something. I guess electric is better and cleaner if it will be used indoors. How does the price compare to a similar gas powered contraption?
The 2021 ball tuck
Can u get a trailer for this one for exstra batteries?
Can you bring over to lireland 2 tricycles in green
The roof needs a solar panel to trickle charge the battery.
I wonder if one could run the AC when you are forced to park in the sun?
Is there any dealerships near New Mexico I'm down here in Gallup New Mexico
Man that thing looks and probably rolls so easily, you would have to go so slow around corners.
It should be a four wheeler, but you can thank government regulations for that. They'll let you kill yourself on a 200mph motorcycle even without a helmet in some states if you want, but if you want to put four wheels on it, it has to go through millions of dollars of crash testing since now its more stable. Its idiotic, and they should at least make an exception clause for vehicles that weigh under 2K lbs.
What’s to keep this from being a modern day Robin Reliant like on a past Top Gear episode? 😒
At least the heavy battery can be mounted low?
Put better battery with much higher discharge and capacity and 20 kw motor controller and then this will fly :D Also 11 kw three phase charging would be good for long trips so you can charge when you go to eat at long trips.
Problem , the lithium batteries cannot take the cold .
2 tricycles in red 😊
Put a hellcat engine in it
I need 2. Do you ship to south Africa?
This will be popular in India. Bring it here.👍
You go up steep grades to get to high altitudes. So EVs ARE affected by altitude! 😅😂😅
I hate it when they call it TUK TUK. It is auto rickshaw people.
"The performance is amazing" kek
2 green tricycles 2 batterys 2 pulgs 3 pin