The QUANTUM OF SOLACE That Might Have Been!

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  • @davidnorris3131
    @davidnorris3131 День тому +15

    The last film where his suits still fitted!

  • @D3lorean85
    @D3lorean85 День тому +14

    The opening sequence with the Aston is one of the best ever!

    • @twds01
      @twds01 20 годин тому

      True but I've owned a couple of Alfa 159's and they'd be left standing by an Aston!

    • @brianjetton3962
      @brianjetton3962 18 годин тому

      Great opening.

  • @ThePixelExpedition
    @ThePixelExpedition День тому +19

    Honestly - I love this movie.

  • @Daltonis007
    @Daltonis007 17 годин тому +4

    Great video, thanks! David Arnold’s score here is incredible - especially Tosca. I’m with you. It doesn’t deserve the hate it’s received. Every time the movie takes a breath (scenes with M and Mathis) it really resonates. And I love the villain’s plot, re water in Bolivia - it’s very Fleming like and localized. But the quick cut editing does really hurt it, although I appreciate the explanation. Six weeks of editing is insane.

  • @AnalyzeThisMisterBond
    @AnalyzeThisMisterBond День тому +9

    Some Kind of Hero is an incredible book, and the chapters on the Craig films in particular are so rich with detail.
    I really love some of the ideas that didn't make it to the screen.

  • @dennisjames6753
    @dennisjames6753 День тому +10

    Quantum might be my favorite Craig film now. I love that it's just tight and compact with a lot of energy. I loved it as much as CR back in 2008 and saw it multiple times on the big screen.

  • @GhostWolf141
    @GhostWolf141 День тому +37

    Don’t think Quantum is as bad as a lot of people make it.

    • @seanjoness9311
      @seanjoness9311 День тому +2

      It isn’t. I have issue with it but I’d never dismiss it and the film does get better every time I watch it

    • @stephenreed2093
      @stephenreed2093 День тому +5

      It’s a lot better if you watch it immediately after Casino Royale

    • @Aceimus1066
      @Aceimus1066 День тому +1

      A rough diamond

    • @robfong5298
      @robfong5298 День тому +5

      QoS is more rewatchable than Spectre IMO.

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ День тому +2

      Quantum of Solace murdered my entire family and sneezed in my mouth.

  • @wesjackson7437
    @wesjackson7437 16 годин тому +2

    This is a great video, David. Thank you for the great content.

  • @ChilianaJones
    @ChilianaJones 19 годин тому +2

    Damn fine suits and ties in that film. Love the brown Tom Ford suit with the (champagne) tie.

  • @Plally06
    @Plally06 20 годин тому +1

    This is great! Fantastic detail. So many what ifs and possibilities here. We did lose something but what we have is by no means bad. I hold this film dear to my heart.

  • @RyanHeafner
    @RyanHeafner 14 годин тому +1

    Quantum and Living Daylights are among my favorite Bond movies

  • @brianjetton3962
    @brianjetton3962 18 годин тому +1

    Best part of QoS is the scene from Strawberry Fields on the bed covered in oil (ala Goldfinger) to "I said get in." What puts it over the top for me is the music. It just drips with 007 cool.

  • @epptri
    @epptri День тому +7

    Amy Winehouse would have made for a great theme song.

    • @StupidFaceRob
      @StupidFaceRob 15 годин тому

      “No good about goodbye” by Shirley Bassey is the best Bond theme we never got. They even use the melody in the score.

  • @waltppk
    @waltppk День тому +3

    Marc's editor Matt was my roommate for a bit in the late 80's. At the time one of the other roommates in the house and I were going through a never ending VHS pause button deep dive with our worn out copy of Octopussy. Maybe some of it wore off on him? Little did we know he'd go on to a very big editing career.

    • @CGilsonIII
      @CGilsonIII 20 годин тому

      Awesome and wholesome.

  • @denniswhite1317
    @denniswhite1317 День тому +4

    QoS is probably the last James Bond movie I watch if I had to choose between all of them, but when I randomly catch it on tv and start watching, I like it. It’s weird.

  • @jamesbondguy6718
    @jamesbondguy6718 День тому +1

    I have always enjoyed Quantum of Solace. I remember leaving the theatre loving the film. I did not realize until the night I saw the movie, that Quantum was going to pick up right where Casino Royale left off. I was catching up on Casino Royale on TV where they were promoting Quantum in between commercials. I like how the film focuses on Bond's mission, (which could have been explained better) and the revenge for vesper is always there driving 007 in the movie and they save that story for last. For me, it was not a disappointment. I definitely liked it.

  • @thetalentof
    @thetalentof 22 години тому +1

    There's definitely a great Bond movie in there somewhere - if you got Stuart Baird who edited Casino Royale to go through all the original footage to pace out the action and make it more digestible (especially as the stunts are fantastic and deserve more screen-time between cuts), add more of the establishing shots, cutaways and inserts that were shot to help pad out scenes and set atmosphere, add the deleted scene that was shot of Mr White confronting Guy Haines towards the end before Craig apprehends Vesper's boyfriend (more Mr White in general = instant win) and put in Eva Almér's theme 'Forever I Am All Yours' that was ditched (I think it's aged much better than the one they used) then you would have a pretty solid Bond film that would make a lot of fans' top 10 lists!

  • @09juliancarr
    @09juliancarr 15 годин тому

    I’ve got to say that I had the pleasure of meeting both Daniel Craig and David Arnold at the QoS wrap party and they were both great and charming….

  • @inmediasres1177
    @inmediasres1177 20 годин тому +2

    Casino Royal is powerful and full of beauty ... Quantum of Solance is heartbreaking and full of pain ... booth movies together are a well balanced and awesome package.

  • @simonfirth2018
    @simonfirth2018 День тому

    A thoroughly fascinating video there sir. Beautifully delivered and lots and lots of information and thoughts, 99% of which was certainly new to me. As for what we have, I thoroughly love. Might even be my favourite Craig Bond.

  • @BritishCulture
    @BritishCulture 23 години тому +1

    Great video, and this is the film that made me a fan of the cinematic 007!

  • @gekko792003
    @gekko792003 21 годину тому +1

    Meaningfully underrated film

  • @capnjeremyjohn4231
    @capnjeremyjohn4231 21 годину тому +4

    I’m a little bit of a heretic. I like QOS better than Skyfall, which I believe only succeeds because of Javier Bardem.

  • @Phil-ci3bd
    @Phil-ci3bd День тому +3

    I think the gritty texture of the film - like grainy news footage - serves the plot exactly. Definitely underrated and a very pleasing film far away from the decay of Moonraker and View to a kill back in the day…

  • @Aceimus1066
    @Aceimus1066 День тому +1

    You won me over with it a few years ago. QoS has shot up in my rankings.

  • @flingymingy
    @flingymingy День тому +1

    Quantum is a fantastic movie, a great sequel. The only two negatives for me are the editing is a bit too “bourne” and doesn’t sit with the action long enough, and it doesn’t stand on its own very well without casino Royale. But it has an amazing Bond portrayal and character development, a surprisingly realistic story, a unique villain, and honestly Craig’s depiction is phenomenal here, particularly his relationship with Mathis.
    I love this movie, severely overhated especially when spectre and NTTD exist.

  • @slamtilt01
    @slamtilt01 7 годин тому

    Unfortunately in movie land things don’t always go as planned.
    Yes 6 weeks is not a lot of time to edit and possibly have to do reshoots for a Bond movie. I agree. Heck Bond movies are replete with similar issues with post production throughout their history. Forster knew the schedule was extremely tight when he took the job on. I think he pulled a lot of all-nighters editing on the fly and trusting his gut rather than measuring responses to daily’s.

  • @deansmith2440
    @deansmith2440 22 години тому +1

    I have always been a fan of QOS!

  • @freddierodriguez3036
    @freddierodriguez3036 День тому +4

    Great video David! Casino Royale is my favorite Bond movie and QOS is my second favorite. You can’t watch one without the other. Regardless of the turmoil behind the scenes it manages to close out the story from CR, its full of exciting action scenes, it features 2 stunningly beautiful Bond girls with one of them being ahead of the “woke” movement. Think about that for a sec, in 2008 a James Bond film featured a beautiful strong woman with a revenge agenda alongside Bond, even the movie poster features her alongside him. Lastly, the fashion designers hit it out the park from Haiti outfit to Harrington jacket. That said, I can happily watch Casino Royale then QOS and stop there over and over again. Nice shout out to Layer Cake, another great Craig movie. 🫶🏼

    • @freddierodriguez3036
      @freddierodriguez3036 22 години тому

      One more thing, for having issues with writing there were a few very clever things in this movie that intertwined with CR. For example, in CR Bond joins Vesper in the shower as she deals with the trauma of death in contrast he joins Camille after she’s shot the General while the room up in flames. Vesper needed him while Camille stood on her own. Again, so much to love about this movie. 🫶🏼

  • @philhellmuth2771
    @philhellmuth2771 День тому +2

    In NTTD they wanted to finish all the loose ends of the Craig arc and here I am still wondering what‘s the deal with Guy Haines

    • @usernameinfo4therevenge
      @usernameinfo4therevenge 22 години тому +1

      A scene was shot but not used for QOS where Bond interrogates and kills both Guy Haines and Mr White, maybe that explained a bit more... sadly the actor passed away a few years ago.

  • @andylikesstuffchannel
    @andylikesstuffchannel 18 годин тому +1

    Personally i think he's more Bond in Quantum than in any of his films

  • @rickm8343
    @rickm8343 19 годин тому

    In a sense, we do get a sort of detective story with Bond following the trail of breadcrumbs, from the safe-house in Sienna, to Slate's hotel in Haiti, to Quantum's meeting in the Bregenz opera, etc., all the way to the Bolivian desert, it just isn't really acknowledged as such.
    As for the dodgy editing, I believe that was done intentionally, at least in part, to obscure the violence in order to avoid a higher rating, ... was it a 15-rating in the UK?
    Coincidentally, I just rewatched Quantum Of Solace on Wednesday night and, good news, it's still awesome. It ranks at number three Bond film for me, behind only CASINO ROYALE, and SKYFALL [ my all time favourite film ]

  • @agent00asmr
    @agent00asmr Годину тому

    I like the movie ok, but some of the editing makes it harder to watch, physically, not story wise, but actually physically harder, during the fast flashes of editing. The opera is a high point, and I agree about the bread crumbs, there is a great driving force to the story. If it was edited like a normal Bond film, it would have been so much better.

  • @tommy1138
    @tommy1138 22 години тому

    I've loved Quantum since I first saw it in the theater.
    Love the style, love the action and I really love the fact that Bond plays it like a vicious dog that's been unleashed.
    I HATE the editing. Just because you have 5 cameras covering the action scenes, doesn't mean the audience needs to SEE the coverage from all 5 cameras during every action scene.
    I still watch it quite often and I'm a fan that doesn't need to be sold on the charm and badassery of Quantum Of Solace.

  • @ChrisPatrick-n5f
    @ChrisPatrick-n5f 19 годин тому

    OK, as an ex-commercial indirect employ of the BA (not British Airways) QoS, hits the target, more than you may think. he script suffered.....but real life is an airplane ticket and hotel room...a timely escape.....you have to love Norway for this....Train to Oslo, work the underground then a vessel through the fjords and back again....job done.....

  • @cabbieoo7
    @cabbieoo7 19 годин тому +2

    I would take QOS over NTTD any day 😂

  • @TheBondReport
    @TheBondReport 22 години тому

    Having said this, and I think I know the answer based on your final point about changing the slide whistle. But if given the opportunity, would you prefer to see a “Special Edition” directors cut of QOS? Insert key scenes or moments back into the film that hit the cutting room floor, and bring the watch time up to around 2.5 hours?

  • @Максим-д2д9ъ
    @Максим-д2д9ъ 5 годин тому

    Best version of Bond period

  • @CSwalmiusDato
    @CSwalmiusDato 21 годину тому

    QOS has the same problem as DAF. The end of the previous film set a clear expectation for what should come next, instead the bulk of the movie is about something else that's much less interesting than the story we had expected. Still, the opening car chase is one of the best in the franchise.

  • @cameltrophy3
    @cameltrophy3 18 годин тому

    I love QOS. It has issues, but I love it.

  • @dtuk22
    @dtuk22 22 години тому +5

    The basis of the movie was/are sound. It's just Craig doesn't quite play it like Bond. This is my opinion he's portrait is almost just a generic spy character. I don't feel I'm watching Bond. I liken it to LTK... another out for revenge story , but in that movie I do feel Dalton IS Bond..... I'm watching James Bond.

  • @jayhatfield8177
    @jayhatfield8177 День тому

    I've gained an appreciation for The Quantum of Solace.

  • @secretsymphony
    @secretsymphony День тому +4

    I never hated it. Actually, I might prefer it to Spectre and No Time To Die. I can't get past the stepbrother and Bond's demise in those later movies...

  • @cjk5115
    @cjk5115 12 годин тому

    This wasn't a bad movie per se, but the villain was forgettable and the ending was pretty directionless due largely to the writer's strike. The opening sequence with the chase in the tunnel in the side of the mountain is still one of the best ever, though.

  • @christopherreynolds9577
    @christopherreynolds9577 21 годину тому

    Keys!

  • @brucecrawford_17
    @brucecrawford_17 9 годин тому

    IMO, Quantum of Solace is The Last Jedi to Casino Royale. Meaning, it had different ideas than what was left at the end of the first film, like randomly letting go of Mr. White as a character in the story until Spectre. Casino Royale was all about Bond becoming Bond, as we know, but Quantum of Solace was like, “No, wait a minute, he’s not Bond yet.” TBH, I just like the ending when Bond confronts Vesper’s past "lover." That said, I’m glad that there’s Bond fans of Quantum of Solace. It was just a major disappointment for me.

  • @roulernbleu4532
    @roulernbleu4532 День тому

    Always liked QoS. I like even the song, most people dislike it. I think it's different, not typical Bond song, but they don't have to be all similar.

  • @johnsimmons831
    @johnsimmons831 21 годину тому

    Granting myself God-like powers over time and space just for a minute...I would have Yusef as a shadowy character whose career develops in contrast to Bond's. Around the third or fourth film, he would have developed into a more modern version of Bloefeld.

  • @arricammarques1955
    @arricammarques1955 22 години тому

    A great story and actors with proper direction make a movie.

  • @mrhollywoodpresents
    @mrhollywoodpresents День тому

    Craig looked his best and was his most "Bondian" in this film

  • @usernameinfo4therevenge
    @usernameinfo4therevenge День тому +1

    For a long time I wanted a decent editor to do a re-edit and give it some breathing space, but I doubt it would be worth the effort, I don't think there is a great film buried in there. I would like to see the original ending that was filmed, of Bond killing Mr White that was a Gunbarrel ending similar to the start of CR.

    • @rmartins1984
      @rmartins1984 День тому

      The problem is the script. Craig said he and Forster were writing dialogue on the go.

    • @rmartins1984
      @rmartins1984 День тому

      They say a movie is made three times, script, filming and editing. I think there a better film than what we got.

  • @alterdres
    @alterdres 17 годин тому

    When i heard people complane about Joker 2 iam curious or it wil be new QOS.
    There can have deside to release in 2009, but mabey stil hope to release Bond 23 in 2010.

  • @lordbyron9950
    @lordbyron9950 8 годин тому +1

    Why didnt they just get Campbell back

  • @SharkWhosFondOfBond
    @SharkWhosFondOfBond 19 годин тому

    This Bond film's never been lower than 20th place in my ranking!

  • @chobson8602
    @chobson8602 День тому +1

    go to bat for QOS requires manliness!

  • @billiondollarman3847
    @billiondollarman3847 День тому +1

    Pity it could not continue the great first five minutes. After that it fell apart.🎬🎞📽

  • @th7297
    @th7297 День тому

    Even the Bond girls are depressed. I like Craig as an actor, brilliant. The Craig Bond films are decent films from a cinematic standpoint. But as the main goal of this era is to cause major depression, I opt for other films for now.

  • @daviddatz5689
    @daviddatz5689 День тому +4

    Ranks #2 for me! Fight me!

  • @davidgraham5148
    @davidgraham5148 22 години тому

    Quantum to me is waayyy better than anything that came after it.

  • @yestoadventure007
    @yestoadventure007 День тому

    I always loved QoS! Preaching to the choir. All totally on point David. May I add another element, QoS to me is also a type of French New Wave Bond film. As a film student I was always enamored of the Nouvelle Vague. These films were not so concerned with story or plot but rather they created interesting real world characters and followed them in different situations, observing their reactions to gain a deeper understanding of their psychology and inner world. Mood and character were focus rather than story or plot. In this way QoS is following the in the vain of the Nouvelle Vague, making it a more complex textured film. Not what Bond fans are used for sure to but why not have one film that is more about Bond's inner world instead a surface plot driven story? Quantum of Solace is fine just as is.

  • @richardweddle3408
    @richardweddle3408 21 годину тому

    I liked the monochromatic color pallette. Blacks and whites in the production design and wardrobe. Even the oil on Gemma Atterton is black. Careful attention was given to the visual aesthetic. That's the only thing I liked about the film. If James Bond is broken he's not Bond, he's something else. If what you say about his character is true, it may be interesting as drama, but it's not Bond. I'm not a slide-whistle guy, but I don't think Quantum of Solace can be salvaged without a page-one rewrite and a different actor. And NO Judi Dench. She's enough to make anyone sick.

  • @Visqo1
    @Visqo1 День тому +1

    I still can't go past the many things on this movie that I don't like.

  • @timelordvictorious
    @timelordvictorious 22 години тому

    Feel I need to watch Quantum of solace again. Was not much impressed with it when I first watched it

  • @sigurd2873
    @sigurd2873 День тому

    I call the last 5 the 'Freudian Bonds' -s-.

  • @ThePixelExpedition
    @ThePixelExpedition День тому

    It's sad they felt they need to rush to make QoS when now, in hindsight, we are waiting years and years between films. Still have a love for it though, for all the same reasons as you. Great video, David!

  • @wesjackson7437
    @wesjackson7437 16 годин тому

    It’s disadvantaged by following one of the greatest Bond films for sure. But I also don’t like the treatment of Mathis in the movie. Mathis was one of my favorite characters in Casino Royale and he was literally thrown in a trash heap in Quantum.

  • @robertroberto2487
    @robertroberto2487 День тому

    The Film Went Through Writers Strike, Production Costs Problems.

  • @aurellio33
    @aurellio33 20 годин тому

    I've always liked thay film it's just no bull**** I like the way he moves and the speed of it less exposition, full on👍

  • @jonathancohen7788
    @jonathancohen7788 10 годин тому

    Jack Black and Alicia White?? Ooops.

  • @theodoreadrahtas7208
    @theodoreadrahtas7208 17 годин тому +1

    I think it is a film of 7/10 it is not of course Casino royale (2006) or skyfall (2012) but is by far better from spectre and woke no time to die (2021). The biggest problem of quantum is the unfinished screenplay but I think my personal problem with that movie is the director. When you have a movie like Casino royale who reinvent the bond franchise and you know that Martin Campbell didn’t return for the second in a row movie because he did the same thing with T.N.D (1997) when he turned down the offer. You have already big action directors names that can combine good practical-realistic action with drama as a candidates. My favourite choice to direct quantum is Tony Scott and MGM they have it on a shortlist but unfortunately the choose a director without action background and they have directed small dramas like mark forster. A director like Tony Scott would see what happend in Casino royale from action standpoint and transfer the same sense of action in quantum with of course the same second unit director. It is a crime as a decision to not take again Alex Witt (second unit director) in quantum and unfortunately the choose Dan Bradley who is master in fast-editing and make action scenes have the feeling of a Bourne movie.

  • @reecetejani9796
    @reecetejani9796 День тому

    Did you just say “Jack Black and Alicia White”? I think you mean Jack White and Alicia Keys

    • @CSwalmiusDato
      @CSwalmiusDato 21 годину тому

      It's a bit of a grey area. 😆

  • @justinsanchez8918
    @justinsanchez8918 День тому +1

    Strawberry Fields is the hottest bond girl

  • @RickBerman-iv2il
    @RickBerman-iv2il День тому +1

    So, the writers strike was a bad faith excuse - a script was completed. There was a decision to not use it and press ahead with something else. Which was madness.

  • @tbip2001
    @tbip2001 День тому

    Quantum had some really good bits. The opening chase is brilliant. It suffers from the time it was made with tech/product placement. Would like to see a new edit withall that took out.
    Terrible villian and henchman too. Like the complete opposite of CR’s

  • @JohnDoe-tm9wz
    @JohnDoe-tm9wz 23 години тому

    It's a good movie that could have been much better.

  • @EarlRoark
    @EarlRoark День тому

    I enjoyed Quantum of Solace!!!

  • @seanjoness9311
    @seanjoness9311 День тому +1

    I can totally see people enjoying this film, but I can’t stand it from a filmmaking standpoint.
    That being said, it’s my favourite Daniel Craig portrayal of Bond and the style is arguably the best in the franchise

  • @paulj5336
    @paulj5336 35 хвилин тому

    I like this movie. Way better than Spectre and No Time. The only thing I don't like is the ugly as hell song.

  • @sigurd2873
    @sigurd2873 День тому

    Direct sequel.

  • @TheRealBGregz
    @TheRealBGregz 8 годин тому

    “Jack Black and Alicia White”?! 😂
    It’s Jack White and Alicia Keys…

  • @roberrzadkowski2789
    @roberrzadkowski2789 День тому +2

    What went wrong with James Bond's Quantum of Solace?
    "Love is like a lost fart. If you have to force it, it’s probably shit.”

  • @kverkagambo
    @kverkagambo День тому +1

    Swellum.
    Of Bolace.

  • @rovercoupe7104
    @rovercoupe7104 День тому

    I liked it. M

  • @DUNGEONCRAFT1
    @DUNGEONCRAFT1 18 годин тому

    While QOS is not great, at least they didn't do anything crazy--like, say...I dunno...KILL James Bond while he's crying and holding a dolly named "Dou Dou."

  • @rmartins1984
    @rmartins1984 День тому +1

    The most depressing Bond film.

    • @th7297
      @th7297 День тому +1

      Main difference between the Craig era and the other movies: all Craig Bond films make me sad. No fun. That being said, I’ve just been watching all except NTTD in a row and they are really good films with Craig being a brilliant actor. But depression is not my main goal at the moment, so I am still a Connery/Moore guy.

    • @rmartins1984
      @rmartins1984 День тому +1

      @@th7297 I think after the five Craig films, most people want a return to more fun.

  • @splootan
    @splootan 19 годин тому +2

    Oh jeez this guy makes Bond sooo cringy

  • @kkrsnn5632
    @kkrsnn5632 4 години тому +1

    QoS. One of the worst 007 films.

  • @lennydaiglejr3094
    @lennydaiglejr3094 День тому +1

    It’s really grown on me; my most recent viewing was really enjoyable.
    That said, it’s got the worst sunglasses in the entire franchise, way too small for Craig’s face . There, I said it, lol

    • @freddierodriguez3036
      @freddierodriguez3036 День тому +1

      To each their own but I like the single bridge on these sunglasses as opposed to double like so many other aviators. I own a pair so I am biased. 😂 Cheers!

    • @lennydaiglejr3094
      @lennydaiglejr3094 День тому

      @@freddierodriguez3036 Absolutely, we all have our own preferences; in general I’ve never been fond of aviators. I think my main issue with the ones worn in Quantum is that they are way too small for his face .

    • @freddierodriguez3036
      @freddierodriguez3036 День тому +1

      @@lennydaiglejr3094 They do look more like goggles on him than sunglasses. But so do Carreras he wears in NTTD flying the little plane thing towards last scene. 😆

  • @Llamadosalvaje
    @Llamadosalvaje День тому

    COOL MOVIE FILMED IN CHILE 🇨🇱

    • @jaysterling26
      @jaysterling26 День тому

      I was in Peru & heard they were filming there. I don't know if this was wishful thinking, Inca whispers or it just fell apart ( Peruvisn bureaucracy couldn't get its papers in order?).
      I'm with Brosnan- too much 'M' everywhere since TWINE.

  • @Acarsfault
    @Acarsfault День тому +1

    A movie without a story

  • @Spinnaker10
    @Spinnaker10 17 годин тому

    Jack Black, David?!?! Oy vey!

  • @johnpaulnoone3071
    @johnpaulnoone3071 15 годин тому

    Weakest villain since Jonathan Pryce imo.

  • @inmediasres1177
    @inmediasres1177 20 годин тому +1

    15:48!!!

  • @tbip2001
    @tbip2001 День тому

    Quantum had some really good bits. The opening chase is brilliant. It suffers from the time it was made with tech/product placement. Would like to see a new edit withall that took out.
    Terrible villian and henchman too. Like the complete opposite of CR’s