Sitting here in 2023, Bron is the all-time leading scorer, 4 rings, 4 finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, and universally regarded as 1 of the 2 best players in the history of the game.
Ain’t that the truth. Stephen A in a throwaway statement says Kareem record is impossible to reach. Whole time the man they’re debating about would ultimately do it. Sports is sports. Don’t really need the takes from these guys on tv talking a bunch of drivel.
Universally? A lot of people have Kobe ahead of him, and many others still don’t have him in their top 5… I’m not saying LeBron is or isn’t l, but “universally” is a big stretch.
Objectively Lebron is a solidified top 5 player ever maybe not 1 or 2 in some people's opinion but he's top 5, saying Lebron isn't top 5 in 2023 is just delusional nonsense
@@zachsmart8569Bron would pass him first. Matter of fact if bron wasn’t injured and missed like 40-50 games during the first 3 yrs of the lakers early years he would’ve been passed kareem.
Larry the unshakeable, clutch, hard-nosed, intelligent, ultra-competitive, leader Bird. No melt downs no blame deflecting, no fear, all the intangibles.
lol typical casual that never bothered to know birds career and just blindly listens to what other casuals say. Bird had a PLETHORA of meltdowns and chokejobs. 1982 2nd round 1st seeded Celtics vs 3rd seeded 76ers. Bird loses to them averaging a horrible 18 pts on 41% fg and 20% 3fg. 1983 2nd round vs the Moncrief Bucks. SWEPT by the bucks averaging another pathetic 19 pts on 44% 1987 finals vs lakers : elimination game 6 : bird in the biggest game of the season puts up a terrible 16 pts on 37% fg and outplayed terribly by magic 1988 2nd round vs Pistons : Averaged a pedestrian 20 pts on a horrible 35% fg and 16 pts in the elimination game 6 1991 2nd round vs pistons : averaged 13 pts on 38% fg enuff said
@@AnthonyBdope-ez8bsyes he is pass first. Some may look at assist but passing doesn’t equate assists all the time so there isn’t a stat to show it. Just because he scores 27 doesn’t mean he doesn’t pass first. Bron passes leads to him scoring. He may pass to get himself a cut to the basket or to set himself up to score.
This was back in 2014. In 2014 Lebron was barely a top 10 player at best and only had 2 rings and like 9 all stars and was criticized for it since he was still in Miami when this was made. Now he’s probably the greatest ever tho
@@lxfluid3242 LMAO in 2014 Lebron was the best basketball player in the world, as Stephen A literally says in the video, and skip even agrees. Lebron was the best basketball player in the world from 2011 all the way to 2019. Only then you could say maybe KD.
Bird was a very good scorer, rebounder, and excellent passer - what SA Smith doesn't understand Bird impact the game with passing as much as with shooting. SAS speaks of Bird as if he never watched him. Bird made plays. One of the smartest players and most impactful. At his best he was certainly as good or better than Magic (VORP, Plus/Mins, OWS/DWS). Kareem "Larry Bird could do it all". I think that is way more valuable than SAS skewed take on Bird. The man either didnt watch 1980s and didnt understand what he saw. However, LeBron is one of 3 all time greats, probably #2 at worst but now more and more maybe #1. Bird wasn't so blessed physically - LeBron has the speed of Pippen, the size and power of Karl Malone, and can shoot the 3, more or less. Bird did make the 2nd All-D team, but LeBron is better on D due to his speed and power. Plus his longevity is unmatched!
In 2014 they were saying he’s the greatest small forward ever. 10 years later…2 more titles. 5 more finals appearances. 10 more all nba’s and Stephen a now says there’s no way Lebron could ever be better than jordan. 10 years in he was best small forward ever 10 more years of all nba play and he can’t be the goat. 10 MORE YEARS lol jordan only played 13 total all nba years lol Lebron had 9 at this point Has 10 more since and not the goat 😂 makes no damn sense
It's not a matter of how many years you play in the NBA. Jordan accomplished more than Lebron in less time and never had to jump from team to team or have half his roster traded at the deadline.
B4 mj won a championship in 1990 skip said he was the greatest player ever now with lebron 2 consecutive championships he cant even be the greatest small foward ever? Smh
5 years after Bron retires , he will start being called the GOAT a lot more.. The time the next generational talent that reaches him and Jordan’s level, it’ll be at least 30 years
Wemby is the next. Lebron beat 73-9 team who had the best shooters ever and lead both finals teams in points, assist. Steals, blocks, AND rebounds. Wemby is gonna be the best defensive player ever. Dpoy every season he’s healthy. Will beat Tim Duncan’s defense team record if healthy.
@@moneymoney3235 I feel you … but Grant Hill was the next Jordan as well (could argue he was Bron before Bron) … and so was Stackhouse , Vince Carter, Michael Finley … I hope Wemby is elite , but I doubt he gonna be on that level
Not sure you can call a Ring chaser the greatest at anything but chasing rings. Great but not the greatest. I'd take Bird much better under pressure and much higher BB IQ.
Sitting here 2024 No LeBron is not by far the best SF that ever grace NBA Hardwood floors yall better start putting respect on Legends here the Top 10 Greatesss SF that NBA has forgotten because today Era its Stats. 1. Scottie Pippen 2. John Havlicek 3. Satch Sanders 4. Jim Loscutoff 5. Don Nelson 6. Jim Pollard 7. LeBron James 8. Klay Thompson 9. Andra Iguodala 10. Larry Bird
Tell me when Larry is the NBA’s all-time leading scorer and has over 10,000 career assists and over 10,000 rebounds. Cause I know lebron is about to be there 🤷🏾♂️
Longevity Numbers...Prime to Prime Bird was Simply Better Than Lebron...Better in Playoffs...Better in Finals...Clutch Gene...Bird was The Better Player
People are really trying to make the most known flopper in the world into the GOAT, a guy who cannot shot a Free Throw, a guy that dunking has the same 2p% as Bird shooting, a guy with one of the worse clutch % in the league, world famous as a flopper and a whinner, change teams , stat chaser.... and I can go on. Is plain shameful that a generation want to consider this type of player in the GOAT list. Is a shame for an entire generation.
@@lxfluid3242 Greatest forward ever yes, I'd still say he's second all time in the goat debate. Overall though, Lebron is closer to first than he is to third place.
@@ezirulez4eva175 Bird played against 4 players in the all time top 10 and 6 players in the all time top 25. Bird played against 3 dynasties (The 76ers, Lakers and Pistons) Contrast that with Jordan. Jordan, in his championship winning years played against only 2 players in the all time top 25 and had one of the top 25 all time players on his own team (Scottie pippen). He beat only one dynasty, the Pistons when the Pistons were old. LeBron played against even weaker competition.
He is one of the best blockers in history, in his days in Miami he could defend from 1-5, from 2008 to 2013-14 he was the most complete defender in the league. Only he is not a 1vs1 player like mike, kobe, kd, etc, he is one more player of reading the plays.
He was robbed of a defensive player of the year in 2013 when they gave it to Marc Gasol. You don’t got to be a Lebron Stan to understand the man was literally able to do it all at his absolute peak.
Sitting here in 2023, Bron is the all-time leading scorer, 4 rings, 4 finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, and universally regarded as 1 of the 2 best players in the history of the game.
Amazing right?
Ain’t that the truth. Stephen A in a throwaway statement says Kareem record is impossible to reach. Whole time the man they’re debating about would ultimately do it. Sports is sports. Don’t really need the takes from these guys on tv talking a bunch of drivel.
Universally? A lot of people have Kobe ahead of him, and many others still don’t have him in their top 5… I’m not saying LeBron is or isn’t l, but “universally” is a big stretch.
Objectively Lebron is a solidified top 5 player ever maybe not 1 or 2 in some people's opinion but he's top 5, saying Lebron isn't top 5 in 2023 is just delusional nonsense
Nope he's #3 or #4
It’s funny he thought KD would pass Kareem all without mentioning Bron and low and behold Lebron is about to pass Kareem wow
He prob would of if not for the injuries
@@zachsmart8569Bron would pass him first. Matter of fact if bron wasn’t injured and missed like 40-50 games during the first 3 yrs of the lakers early years he would’ve been passed kareem.
Larry the unshakeable, clutch, hard-nosed, intelligent, ultra-competitive, leader Bird. No melt downs no blame deflecting, no fear, all the intangibles.
Bird had back to back 8 point playoff games lmaoooo he’s straight ass
lol typical casual that never bothered to know birds career and just blindly listens to what other casuals say. Bird had a PLETHORA of meltdowns and chokejobs.
1982 2nd round 1st seeded Celtics vs 3rd seeded 76ers. Bird loses to them averaging a horrible 18 pts on 41% fg and 20% 3fg.
1983 2nd round vs the Moncrief Bucks. SWEPT by the bucks averaging another pathetic 19 pts on 44%
1987 finals vs lakers : elimination game 6 : bird in the biggest game of the season puts up a terrible 16 pts on 37% fg and outplayed terribly by magic
1988 2nd round vs Pistons : Averaged a pedestrian 20 pts on a horrible 35% fg and 16 pts in the elimination game 6
1991 2nd round vs pistons : averaged 13 pts on 38% fg enuff said
Meanwhile Lebron exceeded every expectation. All time scorer and he’s a pass first player. Incredible.
Lebrons not a pass first player he's a great all around player his best ability is his scoring
Played 21 ofc
@@AnthonyBdope-ez8bsyes he is pass first. Some may look at assist but passing doesn’t equate assists all the time so there isn’t a stat to show it. Just because he scores 27 doesn’t mean he doesn’t pass first. Bron passes leads to him scoring. He may pass to get himself a cut to the basket or to set himself up to score.
This isn’t a debate. LeBron is the greatest forget small forward, he’s the greatest forward ever and it’s not close.
This was back in 2014. In 2014 Lebron was barely a top 10 player at best and only had 2 rings and like 9 all stars and was criticized for it since he was still in Miami when this was made. Now he’s probably the greatest ever tho
@@lxfluid3242 LMAO in 2014 Lebron was the best basketball player in the world, as Stephen A literally says in the video, and skip even agrees. Lebron was the best basketball player in the world from 2011 all the way to 2019. Only then you could say maybe KD.
@@ofwhatusewastherule8889dude 🤦🏻♂️
The guy above obviously meant top 10 all time not just in the league at that time.
@@ofwhatusewastherule8889 curry was better in 2016 but you right until 2020 when Gianni’s took over and it’s been his league ever since
Lebron or pops mensah bonsu ? Whos better ?
Lebron is better then Larry bird at every minute of every game. All 48 and OT if necessary
You are so ignorant
Birds Era Was Much Too Physical For Fragile Minded Lebron...Bird Did a Lot More Things Better Than Lebron
@@jackwoods9604 you cant name more then 30 players who played in that era.
@@jackwoods9604Respect to Bird but he was 220lbs.
7:10 we’ll ig that didn’t age well
Bird was a very good scorer, rebounder, and excellent passer - what SA Smith doesn't understand Bird impact the game with passing as much as with shooting. SAS speaks of Bird as if he never watched him. Bird made plays. One of the smartest players and most impactful. At his best he was certainly as good or better than Magic (VORP, Plus/Mins, OWS/DWS).
Kareem "Larry Bird could do it all". I think that is way more valuable than SAS skewed take on Bird. The man either didnt watch 1980s and didnt understand what he saw.
However, LeBron is one of 3 all time greats, probably #2 at worst but now more and more maybe #1. Bird wasn't so blessed physically - LeBron has the speed of Pippen, the size and power of Karl Malone, and can shoot the 3, more or less. Bird did make the 2nd All-D team, but LeBron is better on D due to his speed and power. Plus his longevity is unmatched!
Back then, he said he hadn't had np wit duncan being on the bench. Nowadays, he says he does
In 2014 they were saying he’s the greatest small forward ever. 10 years later…2 more titles. 5 more finals appearances. 10 more all nba’s and Stephen a now says there’s no way Lebron could ever be better than jordan.
10 years in he was best small forward ever
10 more years of all nba play and he can’t be the goat. 10 MORE YEARS lol jordan only played 13 total all nba years lol Lebron had 9 at this point
Has 10 more since and not the goat 😂 makes no damn sense
It's not a matter of how many years you play in the NBA. Jordan accomplished more than Lebron in less time and never had to jump from team to team or have half his roster traded at the deadline.
B4 mj won a championship in 1990 skip said he was the greatest player ever now with lebron 2 consecutive championships he cant even be the greatest small foward ever? Smh
5 years after Bron retires , he will start being called the GOAT a lot more.. The time the next generational talent that reaches him and Jordan’s level, it’ll be at least 30 years
Wemby is the next. Lebron beat 73-9 team who had the best shooters ever and lead both finals teams in points, assist. Steals, blocks, AND rebounds. Wemby is gonna be the best defensive player ever. Dpoy every season he’s healthy. Will beat Tim Duncan’s defense team record if healthy.
@@moneymoney3235 I feel you … but Grant Hill was the next Jordan as well (could argue he was Bron before Bron) … and so was Stackhouse , Vince Carter, Michael Finley … I hope Wemby is elite , but I doubt he gonna be on that level
On one first take steve said bird wA better now he flipped. Thiscrap is soap opera at its best
Bron was still playing so he had time to pass him
Steven A: 7:14
Goat King James: Hold my drink.
He was talking about Durant there
Bird over bron is a joke in the clutch...same for kd
Fans are delusional when it comes to the nba……
Not sure you can call a Ring chaser the greatest at anything but chasing rings. Great but not the greatest. I'd take Bird much better under pressure and much higher BB IQ.
Objectively not true
@Toasted' Nugget_' dudes a D1 delusional hater
Lmfaoooooooo
Delusional
u've lost ur mind
Why build a franchise around lebron when it’s proven bird will stay
Of course completely disagree with SAS. Bird helped his team win games without scoring. Never quit. So, with and without the ball…Bird.
Yes
Sitting here 2024 No LeBron is not by far the best SF that ever grace NBA Hardwood floors yall better start putting respect on Legends here the Top 10 Greatesss SF that NBA has forgotten because today Era its Stats.
1. Scottie Pippen
2. John Havlicek
3. Satch Sanders
4. Jim Loscutoff
5. Don Nelson
6. Jim Pollard
7. LeBron James
8. Klay Thompson
9. Andra Iguodala
10. Larry Bird
Tell me when Larry is the NBA’s all-time leading scorer and has over 10,000 career assists and over 10,000 rebounds. Cause I know lebron is about to be there 🤷🏾♂️
Longevity Numbers...Prime to Prime Bird was Simply Better Than Lebron...Better in Playoffs...Better in Finals...Clutch Gene...Bird was The Better Player
@@jackwoods9604 nonsense....prime to prime Lebron went 9 straight finals.
@@ha4b635 he went to finals coz the east was weak
@@therealdakshina1051 9 straight times?? Knock it off.
@@ha4b635 what good team in the east did he actually beat?
People are really trying to make the most known flopper in the world into the GOAT, a guy who cannot shot a Free Throw, a guy that dunking has the same 2p% as Bird shooting, a guy with one of the worse clutch % in the league, world famous as a flopper and a whinner, change teams , stat chaser.... and I can go on.
Is plain shameful that a generation want to consider this type of player in the GOAT list.
Is a shame for an entire generation.
Ur gonna die one day, and the next generations are gonna forget about you, and will only think of Jordan as the mascot for sneakers
Someone seems hurt
@Toasted' Nugget_' THANK U BRO. casuals jus say anything even when its not tru. these sheep jus fall for myths💀🤡
looks like we've found another retard
No , Larry Bird was levels above
Lol do you need to think about that.
This was 2014. Lebron was bottom of the top 10 at very best in 2014. Now he’s not only the greatest forward ever but probably the greatest ever
@@lxfluid3242 Greatest forward ever yes, I'd still say he's second all time in the goat debate. Overall though, Lebron is closer to first than he is to third place.
Wrong Stephen A, the dude bout to get catch and pass Kareem
Larry bird averaged 16 ppg in a finals W…so yes he would
Bird played in a much tougher era than LeChoke did. End of Story.
You do realize that in 7 of lebrons finals had 3 ,4 hall of famers on the warriors and the Spurs
U mean much tougher east
@@ezirulez4eva175 Bird played against 4 players in the all time top 10 and 6 players in the all time top 25. Bird played against 3 dynasties (The 76ers, Lakers and Pistons)
Contrast that with Jordan. Jordan, in his championship winning years played against only 2 players in the all time top 25 and had one of the top 25 all time players on his own team (Scottie pippen). He beat only one dynasty, the Pistons when the Pistons were old.
LeBron played against even weaker competition.
@@HarmanHundal01 weaker competition Steph curry is now a top ten player and Kevin Durant joined that team for 3 years
@@HarmanHundal01 players today are better than what they where in the 80s, thats just a fact. players are more athletic and more skilled period.
Bird is better
No lebron is not the greatest. Larry Bird NO.1
Donnie Pate sure 🙄🙄🙄
Boomer
@@birdyspeakz3546 At the time Bird still was… in 2022, LeBron is the best SF ever… but Jordan is still the Goat
fuck no
Larry Goat
Lebron was very overrated defensively
No he was not kid
@@suhailalmlahi7096 yes he was goofy, he could never guard 1-5
He is one of the best blockers in history, in his days in Miami he could defend from 1-5, from 2008 to 2013-14 he was the most complete defender in the league. Only he is not a 1vs1 player like mike, kobe, kd, etc, he is one more player of reading the plays.
@@Abel-yo9mf he could of from 2010-2015 when he was a his defensive peak.
He was robbed of a defensive player of the year in 2013 when they gave it to Marc Gasol. You don’t got to be a Lebron Stan to understand the man was literally able to do it all at his absolute peak.