Tijaniyya & the Ziyara Bogal - A Modern Sufi Pilgrimage

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  • @musamusashi
    @musamusashi 3 роки тому +56

    I visited Senegal in 1992 when i had embraced Islam for only 1 year and i was invited there by a brother i've met in Italy where i was living then. It has been one of the greatest experiences in my life: incredible people, generous and hospitable, may Allah protect and guide them always. Nice reportage Filip, your channel always on point.

    • @scienceseekerresearcher6130
      @scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 роки тому +2

      but is it a faith going by the books ? I think they mixed with local tribal animism...

    • @musamusashi
      @musamusashi 2 роки тому +10

      @@scienceseekerresearcher6130 everywhere you go around the Muslim world, you will find different degrees of local cultural influences that have found their way through the practice of Islam and people may or may not follow those cultural traditions and may or may not know precisely where Islam ends and their culture begins. Senegal is, in this regard, no different from the Arabian peninsula, the Indian subcontinent, or any other part of the Muslim world.

    • @scienceseekerresearcher6130
      @scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 роки тому

      @@musamusashi understood

    • @Nomadicveggurl
      @Nomadicveggurl 2 роки тому +4

      @@musamusashi I love your response. I just said something similar when asked this question. Jerejef! I am happy you enjoyed your time in the land of terranga.

  • @diegot.guimaraesyaqubabdal4622
    @diegot.guimaraesyaqubabdal4622 2 роки тому +24

    Peace! Sidi Filip, thank you for that. Brazilian Tijāni here, murīd of Sh. Mahi Cisse (from Medina Baye (Kaolack), Senegal), fan of your amazing channel and I very appreciate all your work here... Very hard to stop watching, a real religion videopedia, mā shā'Allah! I love the most all your "video-articles" about Islam and its history and pre-history, as well as all monotheistic and hanifiyya related, what I research by myself and you are an amazing researcher and very reliable source.
    BarakAllahu fik wassalaam

  • @_isatoo
    @_isatoo 7 місяців тому +3

    You have been such a reliable source. I grew up in this culture and being heavily influenced by western education I never valued it and now that I’m older trying to find the path home, there isn’t much unbiased information. I’m eternally grateful for the powers that led you to create this page. You’ve helped me find my way back home

  • @learningisfun6588
    @learningisfun6588 5 років тому +41

    When my father named me Tijaniyya he knew what he was doing. Learning about my name is a very fascinating experience

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 років тому +9

      That's really cool, do you/your father have any further connection with the Tijaniyya? Happy I could be of service :)

    • @learningisfun6588
      @learningisfun6588 5 років тому +7

      No he doesn't but he studied religion and various cultures. He is a historian by training.

    • @ismaelbenhayoun2668
      @ismaelbenhayoun2668 4 роки тому +4

      @@LetsTalkReligion Thank you very much for your Video. You can have more info in Fes , Ain el Madhi , Kaolackand many other pleaces .. There are unic books you will find easily : Jawahir al Maani... at disposal for any need .BR

    • @HHH_3
      @HHH_3 2 роки тому

      Ahmad tijani was a psychopath, look up his history. Follow real islam by following the Quran and Sunnah.

    • @redouxne7392
      @redouxne7392 2 роки тому

      Nice name !

  • @alankent
    @alankent 3 роки тому +18

    Yes! All humans are humans. Humans should share. Humans should practice tolerance, acceptance, and kindness.
    I thoroughly enjoyed this video.

  • @YaBoiHakim
    @YaBoiHakim 4 роки тому +36

    Many thanks for all the effort you went through, this was amazingly in-depth and clear. I've always wanted to learn more about West African Sufi traditions, and sadly not enough literature is written on the topic.

    • @safi.uh_
      @safi.uh_ 3 роки тому +8

      dgfhghghgh i genuinely didn’t expect to see you in the comments of this video

    • @KANASU-BARZ
      @KANASU-BARZ 3 роки тому +3

      Hey Man! I can get definitely get you some books to read on west African Sufism!!! Hit me up anytime 😄

    • @LuizFernandoLFSG
      @LuizFernandoLFSG 2 роки тому +1

      @@safi.uh_ exactly my thought! hahah

    • @scienceseekerresearcher6130
      @scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 роки тому

      The literature is absent because those tribes haven't taken education seriously.

    • @ammanite
      @ammanite 2 роки тому +2

      Salam Comrade, glad we share additional interests.
      I would recommend Rudolph Ware's excellent works on this topic, in addition to Shaykh Ahmadou Bamba: A Peacemaker for Our Time, A Spirit of Tolerance: The Inspiring Life of Tierno Bokar, and the prolific Tijani Shaykh Ibrahim Niasse's writings directly (which are in Arabic and also available in English and French).
      Finally, this channel just released a video on Bamba that I recommend.

  • @philipoulton7730
    @philipoulton7730 2 роки тому +3

    Your closing statement about the need to meet people to re-educate ourselves was heart-moving. Your experience in Bogal sounds beautiful. I have watched about a dozen of your videos now (mostly on Sufism) and they have all been helpful to me on the path I have recently chosen. Thank you. Cheers, Philip

  • @scotzer
    @scotzer Рік тому +1

    Philip, I am so heartened by you. You offer such intelligent and sensitive videos on religion, and I appreciate it very much. I met the Mouridiyya community here in New York several years ago, at a symposium on Sheikh Amadou Bamba, pretty much by accident, and found them so kind and welcoming. That I was a white man, and not a Muslim, didn't seem to matter at all to them. Their generosity was simply of an out of hand type, just the thing that they do, likely all the time.

  • @calmyourself1658
    @calmyourself1658 3 роки тому +6

    wow I was in Fez 2018 and joining the Tijani dzikir., met Senegalese.. cannt describe the happiness experienced

  • @OscarDiaz-mx8ik
    @OscarDiaz-mx8ik 2 місяці тому

    Been reading about Omar ibn Said and his knowledge of astrology and talisman making and how he was part of the Tijaniyya and so I was delighted that you had this video. Thanks!

  • @rokhayatijani
    @rokhayatijani Рік тому +1

    Thank you for All you do and have been doing! Being Tijāni from Senegal now living in the US i find that i learn even more from your content besides it being delightful so Thank You for that! May God bless you🌟

  • @SeekersofUnity
    @SeekersofUnity 3 роки тому +4

    How did i miss this? This is gold.

  • @imunknown4762
    @imunknown4762 Рік тому +3

    I’ve long lusted a piece like this where you would some kind of elaborate the Tajaniya Sufi order like you explained other Sufi orders in your previous videos. Honestly I must say I’m kinda disappointed after seeing this just now! You literally didn’t say anything about the order, it’s founder nor it’s noms and successors like Sheikh Ibrahim Nyass and so on. The main picture in this piece is only what you saw in Bogal but hasn’t actually covered “Tijaniya” as a whole. Tijaniya is actually considered the most dominant Sufi order in West Africa today having millions of practitioners in places like Nigeria and Ghana.
    Hoping to see a more detailed discussion soon. ❤
    I’m inspired by your efforts tho.

  • @TheShayneMay
    @TheShayneMay 4 роки тому +14

    I loved your final message here. Get to know people, and you will find that things are not always so different between us.

  • @typrovoost7640
    @typrovoost7640 2 роки тому +1

    I am in a weird place…and your words are meaningful and helpful to me. Viewing your videos right now is my pilgrimage and I am grateful. ….and I love the music….

  • @wojtekbudzowski3157
    @wojtekbudzowski3157 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you very much for this video, especially for this last few minutes where you share so openly your experience and opinion.

  • @ERSpro
    @ERSpro 6 років тому +11

    Asalaam alaikum! This is so beautiful masha Allah. I have been Muslim for 10 years al hamdulilah. But I just recently took the tariqa tijaniyya with sheik mahy over the phone here in Denver colorado. It is truly a beautiful path, and this documentary is so refreshing. Thank you brother, you have a Light about you, and I can see the spiritual benefit you gained from this experience. May Allah guide us all. Amin.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  6 років тому +5

      Wa'alaikum salam my friend! I'm very glad you liked it, and you are certainly right that I benefited in many ways from the experience. I'm happy you've found a spiritual path that gives you light, my experience with the Tijaniyya has been nothing but positive!

  • @annihilated99
    @annihilated99 4 роки тому +16

    Asalaamualaykum bro. Love your content, may god shower you with he’s blessings inshallah. I would like to bring to your attention that as a tijaani myself I was quite disappointed that shaykh Ibrahim niasse was not mentioned in this beautiful video nor shaykh mahy nor shaykh Hassan cisse. These saints played vital roles in the tijaaniya tariqah especially shaykh Ibrahim niasse not only shaykh Abdurahman Barry. Keep up the great work bro.

    • @maina_1116
      @maina_1116 3 роки тому +7

      Sheikh Ibraheem Nyasse is the most important figure and the most famous tijjaniya fugure after Sheikh Tijjani himself, he's not just known in senegal but around Africa especially Nigeria for example his photos are the most printed and the most popular scholar in the country. I am shocked not even his mention in this documentary.

    • @annihilated99
      @annihilated99 3 роки тому

      @@maina_1116 exactly!!!

    • @minafinch6111
      @minafinch6111 Рік тому +1

      True talk brother, can’t continue the video again

    • @dj_zeeez
      @dj_zeeez 11 місяців тому +2

      I was suprised also bro. Not even a mention of Sheikh Ibrahim Inyass in this Tijaniyya topic!

    • @hdiallo2008
      @hdiallo2008 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dj_zeeez Well, I am a murid of Cheikh Ibrahim Niasse RTA myself and my view is that we should praise Filip for his efforts. Baye Niasse is my Cheikh but we should recognize that he is not the only Cheikh in the Tidjanya order not to mention the other sufi orders. So, we should be more tolerant.

  • @Bosniak803
    @Bosniak803 Рік тому +2

    Amazing ... I love Sufies ... Greetings from Bosnia

  • @hdiallo2008
    @hdiallo2008 7 місяців тому

    Filip, you made my day, thank you for this beautiful documentary.

  • @goodwifelucy5602
    @goodwifelucy5602 2 роки тому +2

    Ameen to all that you said, I just wish that it was to a very much bigger audience. Can't you get yourself on Swedish radio or television? The world needs your voice to reach the people who wouldn't be watching this. Thank you for all the beautiful work you do ❤️

  • @tahirkamrankhan
    @tahirkamrankhan 2 роки тому +2

    Watched this episode after Bamba , enjoyed thoroughly- so informative

  • @RainingFlow19
    @RainingFlow19 3 роки тому +3

    Very insightful my friend thank you. I am a muslim as well but I never could understand how sufi sect work as how they elevate someone to that status after the prophet but your insight into their lives is quite an eye opener. So many cultures in this world

    • @huzaifahali412
      @huzaifahali412 3 роки тому

      Ha ha ha.
      Because Suffism has nothing to do with Islam. Suffism is against the Quraanic teachings, agaist Sunnah against the truthful path of the Companions of Prophet sallaahu alaihi wasallam. Suffism is deviant. Stay away!

    • @Shukr66
      @Shukr66 2 роки тому +2

      @@huzaifahali412 ASTAGHFIRULLAH!... A OU ZHU BILAHI MIN ASH SHAITAN IR RAJIM!

    • @hxyzazolchak
      @hxyzazolchak 2 роки тому +2

      @@huzaifahali412 please don't be extreme. This rhetoric is very divisive. I agree that there are some definitely misguidance in the practice of some sufis but NOT all their practices are deviant

  • @yahya2925
    @yahya2925 Рік тому +1

    Texan here! I took tariqa tijaniyyah from Shaykh Simone Dario Nardella last year as my Murabbi and Shaykh Wuld Khairy (H.A) is mawlana Shaykh alhamdulillah. Truly, Prophet Muhammad, The Sayyid of all existence (SAW) is our Shaykh. Its nice to see this video

    • @Knowble7
      @Knowble7 9 місяців тому

      You were initiated in Texas?!

    • @yahya2925
      @yahya2925 9 місяців тому

      @@Knowble7 Alhamdulillah yes, over the internet

    • @hdiallo2008
      @hdiallo2008 7 місяців тому

      @@yahya2925 Wonderful. Is that really possible ? I thought you needed physical contact. Nevertheless, congratulations

    • @yahya2925
      @yahya2925 7 місяців тому +1

      @@hdiallo2008 Absolutely possible over the phone/video call

    • @yahya2925
      @yahya2925 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Knowble7 Yup. Over the phone I was initiated by my shaykh Simone Dario Nardella a Muqaddam of Shaykh Ould Khayri (H.A)

  • @ashimov1970
    @ashimov1970 3 роки тому +2

    What an amazing, beautiful full of light people and place. Love it. Allahu Akbar

  • @marasine6600
    @marasine6600 4 роки тому +7

    Please, please...could you give me a link where I can find the music from the minute 29 of your video ?This music makes me fall to my knees and transports my spirit back in Turkey where I lived 6 month, I was greeted with kindness everywhere, I could read, meditate on the roof of the house, share meals, attend funeral evenings. I miss them so much !

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +7

      Your words warm my heart, as I actually made that music myself :)
      I have released it under the name Zini. Here is a link to Spotify: open.spotify.com/track/6QnuBUANLRXq0u0BCF59VK?si=aTlJ_Ce9QkKxEOIFddU8gQ

    • @aamirhita8262
      @aamirhita8262 4 роки тому +1

      Could you please also share your artist name and complete song name, because I'm using a mobile phone and can't exactly open the link due to some app glitch. Also, you've done a really great work through all your videos. I m commenting on your videos for first time, so...

  • @datodrali3998
    @datodrali3998 4 роки тому +2

    Alhamdulillah...very2 informative. The true lived-meaning of Islam.

  • @dawnredman3645
    @dawnredman3645 Рік тому

    Beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @nanabai329
    @nanabai329 3 роки тому +1

    I remember when I was a young girl in my village back in Mali, I was invited by a friend to a tijani zikir/ Quran reading as I went to madrassa and it was at night in this one home compound where they have a large fire as a light source and everyone sits around it and read Quran and say duas. I went a couple of times. I knew they where tijani, but I did not not it was a Sufi order or so widespread in Senegal.

  • @faisaliddrisu6636
    @faisaliddrisu6636 3 роки тому +6

    I think if you're to about tijaniyya in west Africa you must talk about sheikh Ibrahim of Senegal

    • @im_aleey
      @im_aleey 3 роки тому +1

      Surprised he didn't.

  • @faaradar
    @faaradar Рік тому +1

    Thank You.

  • @1Truth
    @1Truth 5 років тому +11

    You should go to kaolacak Senegal for the documentary look it up

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 років тому +6

      Thanks for the tip! Would love to go sometime.

    • @kossiboytyzzy4985
      @kossiboytyzzy4985 3 роки тому +1

      Sénégal Kaolack médina Baye

    • @Meandeath
      @Meandeath 2 роки тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion i invite you for sure during the annual Gamou "celebration of the birth of the Prophet Mouhammad Pbuh "

    • @flag_bearertruth6257
      @flag_bearertruth6257 Місяць тому

      You should go to bursa(turkey) or iran , the sufi zikr experience would be very different & life changing

  • @magpie1999aus
    @magpie1999aus 3 роки тому +1

    10:20, that was very beautiful. Excellent capture.

  • @ajaydalaya2195
    @ajaydalaya2195 3 роки тому +2

    Senegal is one of my favorite destinations to visit.

  • @Meandeath
    @Meandeath 2 роки тому +1

    03:09 mns they are singing the names of those muslim spiritual leaders of senegal as Mame Maodo Malick (rta) tivaouane Cheikh Ibrahima Niass (rta) kaolack and so on for their love to the Prophet Mouhamad pbuh and their work for Islam.
    Welcome to Sénégal🇸🇳 west Africa🙏

  • @grilledpikachu
    @grilledpikachu 6 місяців тому

    Very nice video!! Loved it

  • @isthme8103
    @isthme8103 Рік тому +1

    Please do a video on صاحب الفيضة التجانية Sheikh Ibrahim Niass رضي الله عنه

  • @Maka0492
    @Maka0492 2 роки тому

    Mashallah,it’s so beautiful.

  • @psyfie
    @psyfie 2 роки тому

    My bro, you do an amazing job and i love your videos... please note the t in marabout is not pronounced àlà french phonetics.. it is like maraboo.. love, peace, & afiya

  • @umaryusufhaske-ur7sk
    @umaryusufhaske-ur7sk Рік тому

    I love this video ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @maina_1116
    @maina_1116 3 роки тому +4

    How do you talk about Tijjaniya and senegal but no mention of cheick Ibrahim Nyasse Barhama? Is there some conspiracy that I don't know?

  • @ghandifatuh2614
    @ghandifatuh2614 Рік тому +3

    An important personality is missing in this video ... this is serious!
    Tijjaniya and no mention of Sheikh Ibrahim Nyass of Kaolakh - Senegal ??? 🤔
    The awaited grand spiritual khaliph of Sheikh Ahmed Tijjani who took Tijjaniya to every doorstep in Africa and every corner of the globe at large

    • @imunknown4762
      @imunknown4762 Рік тому

      Exactly what I was just commenting about! This video is literally just what he saw and not an explanatory piece about TIJANIYA.

  • @bryanf9763
    @bryanf9763 2 роки тому

    Beautiful!!

  • @burgerboyolar500
    @burgerboyolar500 2 роки тому

    Mashaaallah Documentary line up.
    The title of your video should rather be Ziyara Bogal. Tabarakallah Bless the Shiekh up there.
    The seas of gnostics and Tijaani sufism outpouring are in Madinabaye ,Kaolak Senegal.

  • @elicope55
    @elicope55 3 роки тому

    Mashallah

  • @eg3549
    @eg3549 2 роки тому

    I love it 🙏

  • @johncarayol8577
    @johncarayol8577 3 роки тому

    really happy with your youtube channel. You are doing a wonderful Job. How can i get in touch with you?

  • @lavidadeariadne
    @lavidadeariadne 4 роки тому +1

    I from atlanta but my mom’s from that area glad you had fun

  • @bashirshah5347
    @bashirshah5347 2 роки тому

    Awesome Bro 😘

  • @maina_1116
    @maina_1116 3 роки тому

    From 30:00 😍

  • @jasemalhammadi4228
    @jasemalhammadi4228 2 роки тому

    when i saw the great pyramid of Khufu and how people blindly dedicated their entire lives to venerate a human being surrounded by priests that will legitimize his sainthood. i can believe any other stories

  • @D_Spicity
    @D_Spicity Рік тому

    👍👍

  • @AdenSouthYemen
    @AdenSouthYemen 2 роки тому

    TJ!!

  • @Broadway10past10
    @Broadway10past10 2 роки тому

    🤗🙏

  • @boon1204
    @boon1204 3 роки тому

    nice

  • @jamesstevenson7725
    @jamesstevenson7725 3 роки тому

    I used to be a practicing Sufi or murdeed. Have you ever studied Hazrat Inayat Khan's version of Sufism?

  • @irinav.1797
    @irinav.1797 Рік тому +1

    Smoking is not allowed in Tidjaniya, I'm curious that you are mentioning alcohol - it's haram in Islam in general.

  • @OrtegaSeason
    @OrtegaSeason 4 роки тому +3

    Would you say mixed gender zikr is common in this order? Do they use musical instruments from what you’ve seen? Thanks

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +1

      Yes mixed gener dhikr/zikr is pretty common from my experience. But they rarely (if ever) use any musical instruments at all.

  • @bernardmcavoy1864
    @bernardmcavoy1864 Рік тому

    Why the American accent, Filip?

  • @dreamermagister8561
    @dreamermagister8561 Рік тому

    I wonder if mevlana and other sufi leaders have had a similar following? We know some of them were famous but were they famous among the people or the educated elite?

    • @muhammedalikilic5460
      @muhammedalikilic5460 Місяць тому +1

      They have. The mevlevi order, situated in Turkey, is an order that follows Mevlana mostly. There are some good clips of them on YT, the only thing is that most of there current practices are cultural/tourist attraction due to the ban on tariqas in Turkey in 1923/25.

  • @beefandpotatoes6525
    @beefandpotatoes6525 3 роки тому +1

    8 hours work 8 hours personal issues such as eating sleeping etc. what about the other 8 hours? Here comes the role of communal living created by religion. Who cares what they believe what is important is the end result of communal living. The loneliness of industrial life and individualism is an unsolvable problem of the industrial life.

  • @PpAirO5
    @PpAirO5 11 місяців тому +1

    Islamophobia is NOT a thing.
    Have you ever seen that massive amount of video, discussion, debates and information on Islam online ?
    More and more people try to escape Islam, as they get to know what Islam really is about.
    Islam is pretty much any bad thing you can think of. If you don't believe me, look into the sources.

  • @Turkistonkanal
    @Turkistonkanal Рік тому +1

    Correction:
    It's there is no God but Allah!

  • @p.h.freitas6727
    @p.h.freitas6727 3 роки тому +1

    Man they treated you so wonderfuly because you were the 1 foreign there. But if 2 million people from other countries migrated there, their behavior would be different.

    • @p.h.freitas6727
      @p.h.freitas6727 3 роки тому +1

      Humanity is the same all around. Everybody loves different people as long as it's just a few. But every single nation hates mass migration.

    • @muhammadamiin1969
      @muhammadamiin1969 2 роки тому +2

      Its not about the number of foreigners it's about their culture, hospitality how they treat guests and strangers a like. Because if you ibserve closely or visit middle Eastern or African countries you'll notice they treat strangers like guests and that is powerfull it is the determining factor in their behaviour.

    • @ammanite
      @ammanite 2 роки тому

      Not true. Numerous countries in Africa and the Middle East have hundreds of thousands to millions of refugees and they're not mistreated either-and that is despite the fact that these countries are already poor and struggling. You Europeans are uniquely xenophobic in the world.

  • @scienceseekerresearcher6130
    @scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 роки тому +1

    Is the tijjaniyah sufi master considered super natural or prophetic?

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 4 роки тому

    Smoking should be banned everywhere......
    Just saying.

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 4 роки тому +2

    My informants...you make it seem like you were spying or something....

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  4 роки тому +3

      Hehe, that's what the people we spend time with and interview are called when we do field research!

    • @kuroazrem5376
      @kuroazrem5376 4 роки тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion Filip 007 I guess, lol

  • @staciwashington3212
    @staciwashington3212 Рік тому

    Foreboding....

  • @lboysaidy2219
    @lboysaidy2219 3 роки тому +1

    Suffi Tarriqa have many followers in senegal but Gambia is a Sunni country

  • @SalmanKhan-rz3mc
    @SalmanKhan-rz3mc Рік тому +1

    Show this to the Taliban/ISIS, especially the part where the woman wearing pink dress is hugging the guy and kinda of singing Lailahailalah.

  • @ezyfnef
    @ezyfnef 3 роки тому +6

    Growing up in Gambia, you'd think these people are authentic in their practice of Islam. You live you learn and you're rectified. Sufism is a real problem unfortunately in West Africa. The prophet SAW wouldn't approve of you all idolizing your Sheikhs. Hanging up his photographs and all sorts of nonsense. The singing of God's name is unnecessary. Not too different from the dancing and twirling Sufis of Turkey. May Allah guide us all. Some of this is done out of pure ignorance.

    • @musamusashi
      @musamusashi 3 роки тому +6

      If we were to judge Muslims by their character and conduct, we would see that those brothers and sisters are much closer to the true spirit of Islam, something that salafi, wahabi or those other sects that criticize sufism never are, harsh and intollerant as they are.

    • @ezyfnef
      @ezyfnef 3 роки тому

      @@musamusashi It really has nothing to do with the character of people. You don't judge a religion by the people that practice it. Human beings are fallible. You just have to follow the directives of the scripture. If we judge sufism according to the teachings of the prophet SAW, it's nothing more than an invention. These Sufi's love their saints more than they do the prophet of Allah. Some worship these saints. They're totally lost.

    • @musamusashi
      @musamusashi 3 роки тому

      @@ezyfnef it has ALL to do with character and behaviour. What prophet Muhammad (as) said when asked who is the best among our umma? Those who treat their family, neighbours and people better ;)

    • @ezyfnef
      @ezyfnef 3 роки тому

      @@musamusashi So because isis is going off cutting people's heads on TV and they claim to be Muslim, do that make you one of them?

    • @musamusashi
      @musamusashi 3 роки тому

      I personally not follow sufism or any other ism nor do i consider myself anything but Muslim: i just observe the divisions and sectarianism and feel sad... but Allah is well higher than anything they attribute to him, including man made religions that try to suffocate the natural, logical and Divine way.
      Fi amani Allah, ma salama.

  • @huzaifahali412
    @huzaifahali412 3 роки тому +3

    Grave worship, music, asking shaikh for barkah, innovation, anti-Islamic beliefs these are some deviant aspects if Suffism. Its not Islam. Please remember.

    • @FindRelapsE
      @FindRelapsE 3 роки тому +8

      Leave the wahabism at home

    • @hxyzazolchak
      @hxyzazolchak 2 роки тому

      @@FindRelapsE bro not all of sufism is bad but you can't deny that some of these people's practice is not fully Islamic. Just look at the way the men and women were seating together. The prophet would not have done that. Men and women pray in different spaces for a reason

  • @kharchoufmounir1673
    @kharchoufmounir1673 4 роки тому +1

    I don't want to offend anyone, but as a Muslim I think that the best one to follow is Mohamed PBAH and the sufism wasn't one of his ways, because one of the bases of islam is al iitidal (the equilibre) in every aspect of life, so I don't see from where the sofi practice get there legitimacy.
    Yes the love and support is good but any hadith sahih that proves the practice they do is linked to what the quran and the prophet has done in his life?

    • @calisthenicsduaffaa3939
      @calisthenicsduaffaa3939 3 роки тому +2

      And the Prophet tells us to follow the highly knowledgeable after him and these Shaikhs are examples of such people so we have nothing to do than to follow them. And you should know that what they do mainly is make us constantly remember Allah and His messenger.

    • @calisthenicsduaffaa3939
      @calisthenicsduaffaa3939 3 роки тому +4

      And again,you don’t need a Hadith to make you love the Prophet no matter the way you do it but it should not be shirk

    • @shafiqsha9875
      @shafiqsha9875 3 роки тому +5

      Sufism is Islam as long you don't do shirik.

    • @ammanite
      @ammanite 2 роки тому

      Sufism is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic spirituality (Ihsan/tazkiya), just like fiqh is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic law (Islam) and aqida is the name of the discipline that focuses on Islamic theology (Iman). None of those 3 terms or the many schools of thought that developed around them existed in the time of the Prophet, but as we know from the hadith of Jibreel all 3 are required. And the Qur'an instructs us to "ask the people of dhikr if you do not know," in the case of spirituality "dhikr" in this verse is both the literal and metaphorical meaning (people of knowledge / scholars). They are the ones who focused on that and preserved it in a continous chain (sanad) from the time of the Prophet PBUH until today. Of course I mean legitimate Sufis/Sufi shaykhs not misguided fakers.

    • @kharchoufmounir1673
      @kharchoufmounir1673 2 роки тому

      I will let this video her to clear any misunderstanding:
      ua-cam.com/video/wxdaM4OpgDo/v-deo.html