@@amp4105 I watched the whole thing and I don’t think he was heated at all 🤷♀️ I think his argument was very common sense and if anything he was the one being grilled.
@@amp4105 thank you, yeah the abortion convo will Always come off emotionally charged. It’s either “killing babies” vs “killing women”. Hard to find a middle ground. I tend to think killing babies is worse 😬
@@godpilled9077 your name is literally Godpilled dude..... of course you don't like the guy arguing atheism. I'd strongly bet on the fact that in reality your the one a little less than sharp lol.
@@testsubjectt001 like what? He said nothing and gives no reason to believe besides his vague notion it will improve your life. I'd suggest reading and working out instead, it should improve your life as much if not more
One intellectual trying to laymanize simple concepts to a couple contrarians that will believe anything they hear if it benefits them at all. I agree with most of what destiny says aside from the vaccine stuff. Everyone I know that has died from Covid was vaccinated. I don’t know anyone that died unvaccinated. All anecdotal accounts from people I know are the same as my own. If we’re going based on cdc numbers nobody got the flu for 2 years lol
@@alexw4225 99% of the people who die from covid or covid related problems are unvaccinated. The numbers do not lie, your anecdotes are either straight up lies, or you're dumber than you realize for thinking anecdotes are even remotely interesting.
My man Ruslan!!! Wow.. hey man, the fact that y’all can sit down and have a conversation is awesome. So many people that claim to be Christian just use faith to push their agenda and they misrepresent what many Christians actually believe. Ruslan is a real one man! Thanks guys
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Thanks for having Ruslan on. Good conversation. Shoutout Lush for being around 3 years sober btw. I grew up watching him on WRC, grindtime, kotd etc. happy to see him kick the habits.
If god can physically heal people, why did he never do something we could see? They claim god cures cancer as miracles, how come god has never reattached an arm? Or grew back a leg? Or healed a burn victim? We never see miracles about these things, just invisible stuff that could very easily be a coincidence. How many people die of cancer before one person survived?
The flow in this podcast is just smooth and easygoing. Everyone looked really comfortable talking about anything. Honestly, Adam + Destiny makes for a great combo. Adam doesn’t make it a chore to enter conversation topics or confront someone and destiny can just thrive in that type of environment since he isn’t having to manage/moderate a stream.
@@moneygrab610 right do crazy. Adam learned podcasting with like young cool and alot of the time vain/pompous rappers at first. Had to be careful not to hurt those guys feelings. But now with an episode like this people are open so no one has to worry about what they say passing eachother off, makes it just cruise and flow Hella nice. I also watch destiny so I would like it regardless What I mean is all these guy really understand what comes along with long form conversation/content. Feels like they all aren't worried, and are happy to be talking to eachother regardless if it pops off
@@AudChaldean Ruslan is nearly as lost as Destiny. If Destiny became convinced of the truth concerning God, there is a reasonable chance that he would do enough research and be honest enough to recognize that the traditional Catholic faith is the only true form of Christianity.
@@maxpowers4436 sorry I didn’t mean to diminish the man’s intelligence or cognitive ability I just mean his education has misinformed him on how to think and learn about things
@@maxpowers4436lol he seems slow? 🤣…I think he just has a believe system rooted in The lies spewed out by the government for hundreds of years…he just isn’t articulating it very well..I wouldn’t say he isn’t cognitively there lol…it’s like me calling any conspiracy theorist a putz
He’s ignorant at best and just not intelligent at worst. Was a pain to watch him speak on the vaccine stuff tbh. Some people just don’t deserve platforms, we really don’t need to hear them speak cause they have nothing of value to add. I say this with respect
never smoke and masturbate everyday. keep the mind and body sharp. also a person can lose the "paranoia" if you smoke everyday. its very important to at least FEEL that once a month imo. hm i wonder what destiny is like on meth. 1.5x speed on youtube?
@@isaiahben-yahweh3245 not really. At all: there’s really no headway to be made between someone metaphysically or spiritually inclined and someone who rejects those things. It comes down to a matter of opinion and perspective. You will never from an argument via logic that will win you an actual debate they say proves the existence of metaphysics or god. You can’t. That’s why it’s called faith.
@@iamhereblossom1588 Testimonies are accepted in a court of law. They are meaningful and have the power to change lives. One testimony can be the difference in living your life in freedom or doing 25 to life in prison.
don't agree with the muslim bashing @destiny, try and do that and replace it with the " you know what" religion but you won't so you are not intellectually honest or morally for that matter, but good talk. I was surprised that the christian guy was more respectfull than you. BTW just because Hasan is muslim and you hate him doesn't mean that you take it out on muslims out of spite. Also, can you give some arguments for men who let their wifes fuck other dudes so that they can defend themselves to their homies? Lmao, you can't defend that shit if your life was on the line. love the content though
I don't mind Desitny, generally. But his white-knighting for the chemical-castration (Lupron) of children (or ANY medication, given too 100% healthy kids, to "cure" their non-conformity to sexual stereotypes) is insanity. Choosing to "transition" as a CONSENTING ADULT is one thing. But irreversably harming healthy children, incapable of consent, based SOLELY on "just a social construct", is worse abuse of children's rights/agency than FGM or Catholic Church. Anyone who swallows the "tOtAlLy hArMlEsS aNd rEvErSaBlE" meme is a gullible moron- There is NO (useful) DRUG that's "TOTALLY harmless and reversable". But, the drugs they say this about, it's ESPECIALLY obviously false; These "puberty-blockers" (primarily Lupron, and to lesser extent, Zoladex), were controversial for their well-documented ability to do SEVERE IRREVERSABLE HARM, years before they even started their off-purpose use, chemically-stunting the normal growth of 100% healthy children. Back when they were cancer drugs, for adults. Just google "Lupron"- Info isn't hard to find (altho there's a lot of biased, obvious propaganda, too. But there's still plenty of info, from when adults injured by Lupron tried to get the drug banned for it's side effects (reduced bone density, joint/spinal issues, as well as sterilization, etc), years BEFORE the "trans" stuff even started. The other guy was correct, that the EXACT drugs used to chemically-castrate a 200lb sex-offender (Lupron), is given to 60lb, 100% physically healthy 9 and 10yo's to "cure" girls from being Tomboys, or boys who act "girly". This is to start these pre--teens on the road to high doses of wrong-sex hormones, in their teens (so STILL before they can give legally valid consent to rent bicycle), commiting them to (1) taking these hormones for life. And (2) exposing them to severe risks, coz surprise surpise, female body wasn't designed for high doses of testosterone, and male body wasn't built for the high doses of estrogen (trans ppl need to take MUCH HIGHER dose of wrong-hormones, than naturrally occur in the sex they're trying to imitate. Because they're working AGAINST their own body's natural tendencies). Chemically-stunting the normal development of a physically healthy 9yo, is the worst kind of child-abuse. It violates the child's agency over their own body. It violates "first do harm". It violates the universal right to VALID, MEANINGFUL CONSENT, before you're chemically-sterilized... and all this, justified ONLY by "just a social construct", with literally zero empirical evidence... And trying to "cure" the fact the kid doesn't conform to sex stereotypes- The ACTUAL ideology being served here, is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the "fIgHtInG gEnDeR RoLeS" rctardation, that the idiots cheerleading the child-mutilation think it is. "Trans kids"= chemically-sterilizing healthy 9yo children. [thank you for coming to my "don't castrate children" TED-Talk. Welcome to 2023...]
@@_DerdniK_ I’m well aware and a huge fan of all of those guys (and more) thanks. Id also argue Ruslan is still very much CHH, maybe not CHH according to your definition
I’m currently studying intercultural communication and touch on the meta ethics of one another, and I love how destiny’s standpoint is a very fair perspective.
I would urge you two to find faith in yourself and your loved ones not in some wierd people from 2000 years ago. You dont need archaic religion for faith
Trell was in way over his head on this one… but I respect that after he asked a question he seemed to genuinely listen to Destiny’s response and didn’t just immediately get defensive for the most part
Yes... and it's a very important question to explore because far too many people trivialize leadership (gov't institutions) and have unrealistic expectations of things and people...imo...
idk about in over his head, a lot of destiny’s responses were a lot of words but just basically said I don’t agree with the topics that were brought up by him. I do respect Destiny for saying he has to do the research.
I think you’d have to be or have an ignorant reaction to be in over your head. I think he added the uncomfortable prospective from the inner cities end. I feel it was a we the people kind of conversation.
@@offthepullupPodcast I think one of his biggest points was just challenging why T Rell believes what he believe which I think is important for a lot of people to think about. I believe most people would probably agree that arguing from an emotional rather than evidence based position can sway you to ignore a lot of evidence to the contrary or cling to ideas, people, or misinformation that reinforces your beliefs.
Yo Ruslan too ! SICK ! He's actually an amazing representation of Christianity. Hard core and chill ...I follow him and love his content as a non denominational/ Hebrew roots stuff.. .
@@Sojourner777 uhh do you need me to distinguish the teachings of things of the spirit compared to worldly things of the flesh? Click bait titles, Obnoxious thumbnails ,, promoting the same ten second snippet of his new song twice a video for over a hundred videos , Promoting his patreon every episode Where he already makes more than 5 grand a month just from there. I mean , I can’t judge somebody who is still sipping from the bottle , But there are true believers out there who care nothing for this world and that’s the person truly walking after the spirit . Remember Paul writing the carnal church? That’s in the Bible of you didn’t know 💕🙏🏼💕
Unapologetically proclaiming the gospel, on a culturally relevant forum. To those who aren't Christians, hate on the man if you want. But this is what Christians should aspire to do and be.
Dope group. Loved that T-Rell was included in this one. It’s cool to see him join in on convos like this. I feel like he asked a lot of good questions that challenged the Otherside but also helped give the audience a better understanding of what destiny was talking about.
@@Doctorstrange14605 I’m not saying he made some profound insight or anything lmao. I’m just saying he asked a lot of questions about the topic that the black community and others need answering/explanation becuase the reality of the situation is, is that not everyone is extremely educated on the matter.
He didn’t ask any questions I need answering I just appreciated him asking questions that brought on good convo. Such as African American distrust and public distrust of the medical institutions and the root of these problems.
I like that no jumper was neutral. I really really really love that Adam gave Ruslan the opportunity to be in this podcast. This was really good to see.
I love it! This was so good! Looking forward to more of these! Stark contrast to the normal content here, good job Ruslan, I’ve seen a lot of you but never heard your testimony, love you more now
Thanks for having Ruslan. Love having him & Destiny together, great conversations. Only complaint is I wish he would’ve made it into the thumbnail… so 9/10 :)
He's dope. I've been watching him for a couple of years now and he really helped restore my faith and taught me how to live practically. He's not just fire brimstone going to hell kind of guy. He just really brings up good valid points and doesn't just throw stones. Check him out 🙏💪
His point is nothing new. It's just pointing at the Bible like it's fact. He is starting from certain things being facts that just are not 100% facts. The tomb was empty. Says who? We don't KNOW that.
My two worlds colliding; hip hop/No Jumper and politics/Destiny, this shit is the best. I’ve been watching both for 3-4 years separately, for them to be collaborating on the regular like this is god tier 🙏🔥
Destiny brings up a very good perspective. The system isn't broken. It works very well right now, but just succumbs to apathy and individualistic despair very easily because of it. We do not have collective unity and you only really feel like part of a group in very small portions of your life like your friend group, school, and maybe your job. You do not think about your fellow neighbor and what may be best for them because we're focused on what we can do for ourselves. There are pros and cons to individualistic thinking and this is one of the cons. A lot of places like Seattle and LA are very blue, yet have very red policies when it comes to issues that a lot of young people advocate for. Cleaner air, helping the homeless, and better transit. Yet they don't realize because of their defeatist mentality about the system, they play themselves. They want to tear it all down rather than participate and fight for your ideas within the system.
I'm native, live in Michigan from a reservation that operates a casino and nobody allowed us to open it, we did it ourselves and when the feds came to shut us down, we'd open right back up. They signed a treaty (contract) hundreds years ago saying that we could do with our land what we wanted and then tried breaking it. You really gotta take what's yours in America
Michigander represent. Which casino? I've only ever been to Fire Keepers, which was a pretty great time. God damned uncle Sam, always going back on his word.
Yo, Destiny posted a little teaser from this podcast on his channel and it pulled me over here to watch this. I watched the other one as well when it came out, but I've seen other things over the years now from No Jumper that finally got me to subscribe. The stuff with Aba & Preach, ect. Just wanted to give an explanation of how all of that worked for you, as I understand the tension of letting creators rip parts of podcasts for their own videos. The worry is that it might not draw people to the home channel to watch the entire thing, but it definitely did for me and has every time. I might not have watched it, if it hadn't been on his channel either, as there are things he's done I've only found out about afterwards through comments, ect. Hopefully this helps in some way.
Thanks Adam22 for having Ruslan on! I hope this gave more opportunities for you to see if this Christianity thing is actually real! Also great conversation loved everyone being authentically themselves and being comfortable with each other
For the time Trell was on, he did an awesome job of asking questions that concerned him and engaged well with responses that came his way. Nobody is good at changing opinions on the fly, so its really cool watching someone that doesn't get super defensive to strong pushback. He was able to advocate well for his own positions / advance his own opinions in a logical way; from there he played the interviewer role that allowed the guest to speak to the counter perspective well. An hour an a half in and everything has been great.
tbh i don't like Trell's interactions. He went from asking decent questions to kinda being headass and making questions that most people already have a hard time answering honestly a personal thing, making it more difficult to talk and answer.
I love destiny. I really do. But Ruslan had the more compelling argument. Especially that abortion argument. I lean toward Ruslan’s side. I wish Destiny could have address the biological life argument.
Yes. He should've pressed Ruslan when he said condoms are fine, abortion is bad and BC pills are blurry. I think Destiny fumbled and I've seen him do better. Though the "logic" vs "religious belief" argument is a hard one because it seems to boil down to the ever complex human morals. It become moot fast.
@@mharris4264 condoms are fine because you’re not ending a human life with unique DNA with infinite potential. You’re not creating a human life in the first place. Abortion and condoms are not the same.
@@caribanna1865 quite honestly that’s the only compelling argument for pro-lifers. I have not heard a satisfactory response to it. I don’t see how you can make an argument to say it’s a biological life but not a person without appealing to a metaphysical or religious reason.
Around 38 minutes, notice T Rell said that he personally was questioning the idea that you could feasibly transport that many slaves at the time, but then when Destiny pushed him on it, he just heard it from some guy on Joe Rogan. That perfectly demonstrates the thing Destiny was saying earlier that people don't seek truth, they seek things that make them comfortable.
Thank you for having me on 🙏
Thanks for sharing the gospel
Beautiful seeds sown in the mind n hearts of unbelievers
God bless
You were amazing up until abortion, i think you should try a little more to not have an emotional reaction to prochoice arguments :) still good tho
Thanks brother. You killed it💪🙏✝️
@@amp4105 I watched the whole thing and I don’t think he was heated at all 🤷♀️ I think his argument was very common sense and if anything he was the one being grilled.
@@amp4105 thank you, yeah the abortion convo will Always come off emotionally charged. It’s either “killing babies” vs “killing women”. Hard to find a middle ground. I tend to think killing babies is worse 😬
Dude, Destiny getting fucking blazed second hand off of Adams smoke and sitting there like he's traveling the universe is the funniest shit ever
Dude was lit
at what timestamp does that begin? :D
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He’s so gone lol and of course they are talking about religion 😂
@@JP-Sphere poo
Destiny should be a regular guest he kills it
He sounds dumb
@@godpilled9077 your name is literally Godpilled dude..... of course you don't like the guy arguing atheism. I'd strongly bet on the fact that in reality your the one a little less than sharp lol.
@@durntburnt I was an atheist before so I know how dumb their arguments are.
@@godpilled9077 wrong you became dumb and you are no longer an atheist now.
@@godpilled9077 I was a believer in God before so I know how dumb their arguments are.
Props and respect to Adam 22 for having Ruslan on.
Same. They had beef a few years ago. Glad to see they’ve squashed that
@@wheeler116 as a destiny viewer, that guy actually had some valid input compared to A LOT of other people in religious debate.
Trump did a lot
Shame he didn’t couldn’t remember his name though
@@testsubjectt001 like what? He said nothing and gives no reason to believe besides his vague notion it will improve your life. I'd suggest reading and working out instead, it should improve your life as much if not more
Destiny need to show up once a month.
No CAP
great high IQ conversation, so much better change of pace for content
Melkers
Destiny is my favorite fake liberal - can’t wait to be on the pod soon boys
For real
These deep intellectual convos are a good change of pace from the regular stuff🤣🤣
The intellectual stuff was just 1 way from destiny (a womans name)
Lmao 😂
One intellectual trying to laymanize simple concepts to a couple contrarians that will believe anything they hear if it benefits them at all. I agree with most of what destiny says aside from the vaccine stuff. Everyone I know that has died from Covid was vaccinated. I don’t know anyone that died unvaccinated. All anecdotal accounts from people I know are the same as my own. If we’re going based on cdc numbers nobody got the flu for 2 years lol
@@alexw4225 99% of the people who die from covid or covid related problems are unvaccinated. The numbers do not lie, your anecdotes are either straight up lies, or you're dumber than you realize for thinking anecdotes are even remotely interesting.
A. A joke
B. You have Asperger’s
My man Ruslan!!! Wow.. hey man, the fact that y’all can sit down and have a conversation is awesome. So many people that claim to be Christian just use faith to push their agenda and they misrepresent what many Christians actually believe. Ruslan is a real one man! Thanks guys
What a sad story, gets molested but still goes back to the church. Hopefully he finds his way out of his hateful beliefs
@@ATSaaleIt’s almost like the beliefs don’t condone molestation. Condemn the individuals that did that crime lol
And super dishonest as well, all religions claim miracles, including Muslims. He knows that's true, just won't admit it because it kills his point
More dishonesty, Dawkins said the appearance of fine-tuning exists, but it's only that, an appearance. Jesus these apologists are so dishonest
And more stupidity, he conflates agnosticism and atheism. Atheism and agnosticism answer two different questions.
As a community we definitely need to applaud Ruslan for representing the kingdom with no compromise on No Jumper 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@The_Real_RJ Do you really believe he is out of his mind or do you just don’t agree with his beliefs?
@@The_Real_RJ Do you really believe he is out of his mind or do you just don’t agree with his beliefs?
@@bychristiandiaz I gotta be completely honest and take this L, I thought the black dude who left halfway through was the one named Ruslan 😂
@@The_Real_RJ 🤣
@@The_Real_RJ hahaha
This is one of the most brain refreshing episodes on No Jumper. Proud of Adam for opening the door for bigger conversations
Destiny is a fraud
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This is a cesspool for breeding genetics to pass down aspergers
"Brain refreshing" ok ceo of nasa
No Jumper Podcast is getting even better inviting interesting well spoken guests!👏I was not expecting Ruslan in this podcast. Respect
Thanks for having Ruslan on. Good conversation. Shoutout Lush for being around 3 years sober btw. I grew up watching him on WRC, grindtime, kotd etc. happy to see him kick the habits.
ruslan is wishy washy .
SO weird to see these worlds mix. Lush one, Ruslan, and Destiny...can't even comprehend it. Have been loving watching KOTD and Grind Time lately.
very strange collision of worlds right here
@@AGirlNamedVan bruh how
If god can physically heal people, why did he never do something we could see? They claim god cures cancer as miracles, how come god has never reattached an arm? Or grew back a leg? Or healed a burn victim? We never see miracles about these things, just invisible stuff that could very easily be a coincidence. How many people die of cancer before one person survived?
This has been the best podcast Adams had in a long time
He truthfully has been on a roll the quality level is at a all time high
The flow in this podcast is just smooth and easygoing. Everyone looked really comfortable talking about anything. Honestly, Adam + Destiny makes for a great combo. Adam doesn’t make it a chore to enter conversation topics or confront someone and destiny can just thrive in that type of environment since he isn’t having to manage/moderate a stream.
It is really bizarre we find the best environment for conversation on No Jumper of all places.
@@moneygrab610 right do crazy. Adam learned podcasting with like young cool and alot of the time vain/pompous rappers at first. Had to be careful not to hurt those guys feelings. But now with an episode like this people are open so no one has to worry about what they say passing eachother off, makes it just cruise and flow Hella nice. I also watch destiny so I would like it regardless
What I mean is all these guy really understand what comes along with long form conversation/content. Feels like they all aren't worried, and are happy to be talking to eachother regardless if it pops off
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Ruslan and destiny being understandable to each other is such a breath of fresh air.
ruslan was being such a debate bro. I ended up skipping all of it
Only one has hope ✝️
@@thenucas stay ignorant
@@AudChaldean Ruslan is nearly as lost as Destiny. If Destiny became convinced of the truth concerning God, there is a reasonable chance that he would do enough research and be honest enough to recognize that the traditional Catholic faith is the only true form of Christianity.
@@j.knight9335 you are a bad representation of my religion
T Rell is perfect example of what’s wrong with the education system in the United States
Let you tell it
Legit. He seems slow and not all there.
@@maxpowers4436 sorry I didn’t mean to diminish the man’s intelligence or cognitive ability I just mean his education has misinformed him on how to think and learn about things
@@maxpowers4436lol he seems slow? 🤣…I think he just has a believe system rooted in The lies spewed out by the government for hundreds of years…he just isn’t articulating it very well..I wouldn’t say he isn’t cognitively there lol…it’s like me calling any conspiracy theorist a putz
He’s ignorant at best and just not intelligent at worst. Was a pain to watch him speak on the vaccine stuff tbh. Some people just don’t deserve platforms, we really don’t need to hear them speak cause they have nothing of value to add. I say this with respect
Much respect to Adam for having Ruslan on to represent the Christian community 🙏
lol ruslan mr 1 foot in the world wishy washy...hardly a representative.
You support organized Christianity? 🤮🤮
@@AGirlNamedVan How is he wushu washy ? How did he fail in articulating the gospel?
Seems like you’re just moral grandstanding
@@AGirlNamedVan damn.
@@jakeschwartz2514 😂
God Adam thank you so much for throwing a baked Destiny into a religion debate please have him on once a month
He was wrong in his take on the Fine Tuning argument.
I wouldn't believe he got high off the second hand but it was so obvious the way his demeanor changed that he was definitely feeling it LMAO
@@thesquad7715 His cadence fully fucking changed its like someone hit him with a 0.25 sec slow buff lol
@@thesquad7715 He later said that he got a bit faded off the 2nd hand smoke
I don't always watch this podcast but I enjoyed this conversation
I only watch destiny for his elite fashion sense and his based food and media takes
Take my ironic like king 👑
Dude loves his plastic cups and paddle pop sticks
true bro said indian food was S tier nd won me over
You forgot his amazing body transformation over the gym arc.
(Lenny voice): "Kill meeeee..."
Thanks for having @Ruslan on. I like how y’all had a respectful convo. @Ruslan love you bro. Thank you for representing God in the way you did.
Incredible conversations. Could listen for hours. 🏆
The best way to beat Destiny in a debate is to have Adam get him high from second hand smoke.
never smoke and masturbate everyday. keep the mind and body sharp. also a person can lose the "paranoia" if you smoke everyday. its very important to at least FEEL that once a month imo. hm i wonder what destiny is like on meth. 1.5x speed on youtube?
He's easy to beat in a metaphysical way, he's only a political debator, not an actual full-fledged debator
@@isaiahben-yahweh3245 not really. At all: there’s really no headway to be made between someone metaphysically or spiritually inclined and someone who rejects those things. It comes down to a matter of opinion and perspective. You will never from an argument via logic that will win you an actual debate they say proves the existence of metaphysics or god. You can’t. That’s why it’s called faith.
@@debtrotter9693 Thats cynical presupposition invalidated by the fact that many spiritual people have changed their views many times in history
@@aSSGoblin1488 Don’t Do It Everyday? *No,* do not do it at all🤨
Dude I was massively impressed with the back and forth between Ruslan and Destiny. Loved the discourse. Let’s go RuslanKD!
Ruslan?
@@jordanlujan2179 the Christian guy
Nah man, destiny was intentionally being a cynic and denying everything Ruslan was saying, he wasn't actually being skeptical
@@isaiahben-yahweh3245Heres a simple one. Who cares about testimony? There's testimony to all kinds of BS. All his references were "testimony".
@@iamhereblossom1588 Testimonies are accepted in a court of law. They are meaningful and have the power to change lives. One testimony can be the difference in living your life in freedom or doing 25 to life in prison.
I love when Destiny just starts antagonizing, funny af.
Glad to see Destiny back! Everyone was really cool on this podcast.
Same. The show needed at least one woman to balance all that testosterone and they pulled it off cleverly
don't agree with the muslim bashing @destiny, try and do that and replace it with the " you know what" religion but you won't so you are not intellectually honest or morally for that matter, but good talk. I was surprised that the christian guy was more respectfull than you. BTW just because Hasan is muslim and you hate him doesn't mean that you take it out on muslims out of spite. Also, can you give some arguments for men who let their wifes fuck other dudes so that they can defend themselves to their homies? Lmao, you can't defend that shit if your life was on the line. love the content though
Cool people are best friends with white supremacists
We need more of these convos! Extremely satisfied with No Jumper.
🎯correct... the NJ ecosphere is diversifying our pallettes 🧠...
Destiny is very good at communicating political ideas to normies.
You mean morons
*autists
Amen. Everyone was super intelligent and charismatic. Destiny made the most compelling logical arguments, but as far as oration, top notch crew here.
@@phillipdrummond Not his black streamer take though, huge L on that
I don't mind Desitny, generally. But his white-knighting for the chemical-castration (Lupron) of children (or ANY medication, given too 100% healthy kids, to "cure" their non-conformity to sexual stereotypes) is insanity. Choosing to "transition" as a CONSENTING ADULT is one thing. But irreversably harming healthy children, incapable of consent, based SOLELY on "just a social construct", is worse abuse of children's rights/agency than FGM or Catholic Church.
Anyone who swallows the "tOtAlLy hArMlEsS aNd rEvErSaBlE" meme is a gullible moron- There is NO (useful) DRUG that's "TOTALLY harmless and reversable". But, the drugs they say this about, it's ESPECIALLY obviously false; These "puberty-blockers" (primarily Lupron, and to lesser extent, Zoladex), were controversial for their well-documented ability to do SEVERE IRREVERSABLE HARM, years before they even started their off-purpose use, chemically-stunting the normal growth of 100% healthy children. Back when they were cancer drugs, for adults.
Just google "Lupron"- Info isn't hard to find (altho there's a lot of biased, obvious propaganda, too. But there's still plenty of info, from when adults injured by Lupron tried to get the drug banned for it's side effects (reduced bone density, joint/spinal issues, as well as sterilization, etc), years BEFORE the "trans" stuff even started.
The other guy was correct, that the EXACT drugs used to chemically-castrate a 200lb sex-offender (Lupron), is given to 60lb, 100% physically healthy 9 and 10yo's to "cure" girls from being Tomboys, or boys who act "girly". This is to start these pre--teens on the road to high doses of wrong-sex hormones, in their teens (so STILL before they can give legally valid consent to rent bicycle), commiting them to (1) taking these hormones for life. And (2) exposing them to severe risks, coz surprise surpise, female body wasn't designed for high doses of testosterone, and male body wasn't built for the high doses of estrogen (trans ppl need to take MUCH HIGHER dose of wrong-hormones, than naturrally occur in the sex they're trying to imitate. Because they're working AGAINST their own body's natural tendencies).
Chemically-stunting the normal development of a physically healthy 9yo, is the worst kind of child-abuse.
It violates the child's agency over their own body. It violates "first do harm". It violates the universal right to VALID, MEANINGFUL CONSENT, before you're chemically-sterilized... and all this, justified ONLY by "just a social construct", with literally zero empirical evidence... And trying to "cure" the fact the kid doesn't conform to sex stereotypes- The ACTUAL ideology being served here, is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the "fIgHtInG gEnDeR RoLeS" rctardation, that the idiots cheerleading the child-mutilation think it is.
"Trans kids"= chemically-sterilizing healthy 9yo children.
[thank you for coming to my "don't castrate children" TED-Talk. Welcome to 2023...]
Good job Ruslan. Jesus loves you all and put your trust in him
Crazy when the battle rap (Lush) and faith (Ruslan) worlds collide. Loved the contributions from everyone. S/O to Adam, Destiny, Lush One and Ruslan
Faith and battle rap colliding? Check out Loso, A-ward, or Th3 Saga… guys that are also in the same CHH space that Ruslan used to be in.
@@_DerdniK_ I’m well aware and a huge fan of all of those guys (and more) thanks. Id also argue Ruslan is still very much CHH, maybe not CHH according to your definition
I’m currently studying intercultural communication and touch on the meta ethics of one another, and I love how destiny’s standpoint is a very fair perspective.
you're crazy beautiful, thats all have a nice day and keeep studying this topic, its mind blowing :)
@@DavidTextle bruh 🤣
Nobody likes a cuck gotta man up bro. Watch Patrice oneal how to be a man
@@SavingSoulsMinistries you know what's worse than being a cuck? Being a meat watcher. Look out for yourself weirdo
@@waynewayne8419 fr
Ruslan was a great representative for the gospel on this one - awesome to see conversations like this being embraced!
Facts . Ruslan killed it . He did a excellent job as an Ambassador for Christ
Lush One and Destiny on the same podcast. My worlds are colliding in the weirdest way, and I love it.
Duuuuude I feel you so much! I'm a huge grind time fan, well old school grind time back when Sahtyre and Dumbfoundead were around.
Soo proud of Ruslan for holding it down here. Definitely super exceeded my expectations of what i thought might happen. Good job brother.
knaye is so hypocritical, and if kanye was a Muslim all Muslims would get ripped for being an anti semitic community
I went from No Jumper's Kelpy's Pimp Fight to No Jumper's Collegiate Panel on Reparations and Race Relations Post Civil War
We need a variety 😅 Benjamin Franklin pimp fights and debates on abortion/religion/slavery/race
Love this, watched a few of ruslans videos but I really respect him after this. I’m trying to find my faith and he was valuable
I agree I’m on the fence about what I believe but it’s nice to hear a reasonable take of religion from someone who can actually argue
I would urge you two to find faith in yourself and your loved ones not in some wierd people from 2000 years ago. You dont need archaic religion for faith
Praying that you find truth and that you're doing well 🙏🏽
@TheDonUrbas Christianity is more than just faith, it's the truth.
God Bless You and Amen!!!!
@@eliasgarcia6576 biggest fraud and lies in history to control the masses
Ruslan did his thing. Did not mince his words. All for the kingdom. 💯💯💯
Trell was in way over his head on this one… but I respect that after he asked a question he seemed to genuinely listen to Destiny’s response and didn’t just immediately get defensive for the most part
Yes... and it's a very important question to explore because far too many people trivialize leadership (gov't institutions) and have unrealistic expectations of things and people...imo...
idk about in over his head, a lot of destiny’s responses were a lot of words but just basically said I don’t agree with the topics that were brought up by him. I do respect Destiny for saying he has to do the research.
I think you’d have to be or have an ignorant reaction to be in over your head. I think he added the uncomfortable prospective from the inner cities end. I feel it was a we the people kind of conversation.
Just about everyone at No Jumper is in over their heads on any topic outside of LA gang culture and Shade room drama.
@@offthepullupPodcast I think one of his biggest points was just challenging why T Rell believes what he believe which I think is important for a lot of people to think about. I believe most people would probably agree that arguing from an emotional rather than evidence based position can sway you to ignore a lot of evidence to the contrary or cling to ideas, people, or misinformation that reinforces your beliefs.
Yo Ruslan too ! SICK ! He's actually an amazing representation of Christianity. Hard core and chill ...I follow him and love his content as a non denominational/ Hebrew roots stuff.. .
He's very worldly and makes all his money appealing to half and half Christians who still want to be in the world. But he did pretty good here
@@SavingSoulsMinistries in what way lmfao
@@SavingSoulsMinistries example?
@@Sojourner777 uhh do you need me to distinguish the teachings of things of the spirit compared to worldly things of the flesh? Click bait titles, Obnoxious thumbnails ,, promoting the same ten second snippet of his new song twice a video for over a hundred videos , Promoting his patreon every episode Where he already makes more than 5 grand a month just from there. I mean , I can’t judge somebody who is still sipping from the bottle , But there are true believers out there who care nothing for this world and that’s the person truly walking after the spirit . Remember Paul writing the carnal church? That’s in the Bible of you didn’t know 💕🙏🏼💕
Thanks Adam for having Ruslan on the show . Great discussion.
I would love to see you go on Ruslan show sometime
🔥🔥🔥 Ruslan you held your own and represented well. Much respect grace and peace.
Unapologetically proclaiming the gospel, on a culturally relevant forum. To those who aren't Christians, hate on the man if you want. But this is what Christians should aspire to do and be.
Thanks for having Ruslan the Christian community appreciates it 🙏🏼
fuck yall
Dope group. Loved that T-Rell was included in this one. It’s cool to see him join in on convos like this. I feel like he asked a lot of good questions that challenged the Otherside but also helped give the audience a better understanding of what destiny was talking about.
Really? I thought he seemed fucking brutally stupid, legit some of the worst explanation and reasonings for beliefs I’ve ever heard
@@Doctorstrange14605 I’m not saying he made some profound insight or anything lmao. I’m just saying he asked a lot of questions about the topic that the black community and others need answering/explanation becuase the reality of the situation is, is that not everyone is extremely educated on the matter.
He didn’t ask any questions I need answering I just appreciated him asking questions that brought on good convo. Such as African American distrust and public distrust of the medical institutions and the root of these problems.
There’s the pitch Destiny comes in once or twice a month. To mediate, enlighten/teach the topics that have that group chat hot😂
forreal
Yo came here for Ruslan…much love for havin the homie on!
I like that no jumper was neutral. I really really really love that Adam gave Ruslan the opportunity to be in this podcast. This was really good to see.
Wow thank you for having Ruslan on 👍🏼 GOOD conversation
Ruslan was a reasonable religious person. Good to hear his prespective
This should be all of us but some people don't read or study or anything...
“Reasonable” = cucked to secularism and refuses to stand up for or impose morality.
@@matthewpriest5329 all the study in the world is useless when he won’t even say thats its wrong for Adam to fuck other women in front of his girl.
@@jeremysellors9405 what are you talking about? Did you even watch it. He called it out and Adam even asked him again to here him say it again.
@@matthewpriest5329 timestamp? I only heard pretty tepid criticism of pornography.
This conversation is awesome, love how both sides can agree to disagree
Ruslan was amazing in this.
I love it! This was so good! Looking forward to more of these! Stark contrast to the normal content here, good job Ruslan, I’ve seen a lot of you but never heard your testimony, love you more now
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you really just said testimony
T tell had me dead 💀
When he said yeah, I definitely got that off Joe Rogan. He is real that’s why he is so easy and fun to listen to.
Destiny’s reach is crazy, guys legit been everywhere these last few months.
Thanks for having Ruslan. Love having him & Destiny together, great conversations. Only complaint is I wish he would’ve made it into the thumbnail… so 9/10 :)
Hmm this Ruslan guy really made some good points and gave me a lot to think about…Great episode!
He's dope. I've been watching him for a couple of years now and he really helped restore my faith and taught me how to live practically. He's not just fire brimstone going to hell kind of guy. He just really brings up good valid points and doesn't just throw stones. Check him out 🙏💪
His point is nothing new. It's just pointing at the Bible like it's fact. He is starting from certain things being facts that just are not 100% facts. The tomb was empty. Says who? We don't KNOW that.
@@armedjoy3045 hmm just cuz you don’t know, don’t mean other people don’t know. And I’m not saying this as a Christian lol.
My boy Ruslan!!
This is the first time where I didn’t skip not one minute. Excellent show fasho fasho 💯
Adam has shown so much growth, awareness, and consciousness. He is having deeper conversations.
Dude big respect for having Ruslan on the pod!
Dope that you had Ruslan on, we need to see more of him!
Best no jumper pod to date. Insightful and thought provoking. Good job guys
Np
Wow Ruslan did his thing and held his own! Great conversation!
Absolutely infuriating listening to this clown and I have no idea how you got that from watching this video
Good stream but let's not forget that Destiny is still a girl's name
And let’s other men fuck his wife
Classic 😂
He was raised by his daddy and momma.
Truuuu
Not in the nerd world...
My two worlds colliding; hip hop/No Jumper and politics/Destiny, this shit is the best. I’ve been watching both for 3-4 years separately, for them to be collaborating on the regular like this is god tier 🙏🔥
GODtier bro 🔥🔥
For real
Sammeeeee!
Only one God tho
Yoo I'm still weirded out seeing Lush One and Destiny in the same room having a conversation. God tier
Thanks for putting me on to this guy, didn´t know him before
big ups to this man
Maybe the best 3 hours I spent on UA-cam
Foreals same here 🫡
Awesome Ruslan Got on the pod 🙏
Great sound quality on this one no super loud yelling or laughing I appreciate the entertainment.
Destiny brings up a very good perspective. The system isn't broken. It works very well right now, but just succumbs to apathy and individualistic despair very easily because of it. We do not have collective unity and you only really feel like part of a group in very small portions of your life like your friend group, school, and maybe your job. You do not think about your fellow neighbor and what may be best for them because we're focused on what we can do for ourselves. There are pros and cons to individualistic thinking and this is one of the cons. A lot of places like Seattle and LA are very blue, yet have very red policies when it comes to issues that a lot of young people advocate for. Cleaner air, helping the homeless, and better transit. Yet they don't realize because of their defeatist mentality about the system, they play themselves. They want to tear it all down rather than participate and fight for your ideas within the system.
Thanks for having Ruslan on! Loved the convo. It would be great if you had him back on the show.
I'm native, live in Michigan from a reservation that operates a casino and nobody allowed us to open it, we did it ourselves and when the feds came to shut us down, we'd open right back up. They signed a treaty (contract) hundreds years ago saying that we could do with our land what we wanted and then tried breaking it. You really gotta take what's yours in America
Michigander represent. Which casino? I've only ever been to Fire Keepers, which was a pretty great time. God damned uncle Sam, always going back on his word.
Yo, Destiny posted a little teaser from this podcast on his channel and it pulled me over here to watch this. I watched the other one as well when it came out, but I've seen other things over the years now from No Jumper that finally got me to subscribe. The stuff with Aba & Preach, ect. Just wanted to give an explanation of how all of that worked for you, as I understand the tension of letting creators rip parts of podcasts for their own videos. The worry is that it might not draw people to the home channel to watch the entire thing, but it definitely did for me and has every time. I might not have watched it, if it hadn't been on his channel either, as there are things he's done I've only found out about afterwards through comments, ect. Hopefully this helps in some way.
As a long time battle rap fan turned Destiny fan it's surreal to see Lush and Destiny on a stream together. Props to both and props to Adam
Facts! Lush and Destiny in the same is fucking crazy to me haha
All the guests were really good this episode
Awesome episode with respectful debates, gotta have more like these.
Ruslan showed too much respect, kind of cucked meek christianity
Let’s gooo Ruslan 🔥🔥🔥 Proud of you 👏🏼 God bless 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I don't bless you, btw.
@@ATSaale 🤣 it’s alright, I’ll survive. May God bless you too! Peace 😇🙏🏻❤️
@@ATSaale must suck being that miserable, bozo! anime loving internet dork lmfao hahahahaha
I got new respect for Ruslan with this interview
Thanks Adam22 for having Ruslan on! I hope this gave more opportunities for you to see if this Christianity thing is actually real! Also great conversation loved everyone being authentically themselves and being comfortable with each other
For the time Trell was on, he did an awesome job of asking questions that concerned him and engaged well with responses that came his way. Nobody is good at changing opinions on the fly, so its really cool watching someone that doesn't get super defensive to strong pushback. He was able to advocate well for his own positions / advance his own opinions in a logical way; from there he played the interviewer role that allowed the guest to speak to the counter perspective well. An hour an a half in and everything has been great.
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@@GiovannaMMIVjust say you don’t like anything that doesn’t float your boat
@@Boosted_aj i didnt even type that it was my sleeve that did lol
I had no issues with the Russan dude but I wish trell stayed for all of it
tbh i don't like Trell's interactions. He went from asking decent questions to kinda being headass and making questions that most people already have a hard time answering honestly a personal thing, making it more difficult to talk and answer.
This was incredible. More real conversations like this.
He needs to have more Christian people on his podcast. Love the convo
Ruslan killed it!
Super dope to see Ruslan on No Jumper, really enjoyed the conversation.
I love destiny. I really do. But Ruslan had the more compelling argument. Especially that abortion argument. I lean toward Ruslan’s side. I wish Destiny could have address the biological life argument.
Yes. He should've pressed Ruslan when he said condoms are fine, abortion is bad and BC pills are blurry. I think Destiny fumbled and I've seen him do better. Though the "logic" vs "religious belief" argument is a hard one because it seems to boil down to the ever complex human morals. It become moot fast.
@@mharris4264 condoms are fine because you’re not ending a human life with unique DNA with infinite potential. You’re not creating a human life in the first place. Abortion and condoms are not the same.
@@caribanna1865 quite honestly that’s the only compelling argument for pro-lifers. I have not heard a satisfactory response to it. I don’t see how you can make an argument to say it’s a biological life but not a person without appealing to a metaphysical or religious reason.
Destiny needs to be on every month Fr Fr
Some of the most stimulating conversations I've ever heard. Awesome that you put them on the channel.
Destiny seems super baked the moment Ruslan joins the conversation 😂
Ruslan gave that Destiny dude the business!!
Neither gave anyone the business
Nobody gave anyone “the business.” If I had to bet you’re saying that because you agree with Ruslan’s point of view.
@@ChipCheerio well, obviously
Destiny is insufferable props to Ruslan for putting up with that egotistical man
As someone who has listened to both Adam22 and Destiny for at least 3 years, it’s really cool they’re starting to collaborate
Ruslan shines light on a huge misconception about global population at 2:26:56
Around 38 minutes, notice T Rell said that he personally was questioning the idea that you could feasibly transport that many slaves at the time, but then when Destiny pushed him on it, he just heard it from some guy on Joe Rogan. That perfectly demonstrates the thing Destiny was saying earlier that people don't seek truth, they seek things that make them comfortable.
I didn't know about ruslan before this interview but he is very well spoken
The fact that y’all could have a cordial convo with Ruslan 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Being able to do this is far too rare. Good stuff y’all
I don't agree with everything Destiny says, but I really respect his mental process. The way he talks sparks me into really thinking about topics.
Much respect to @Ruslan for keeping it 💯 and standing on the Word of God. This is witnessing! 🙌🏾
Have Ruslan on more often, he has good perspectives
i appreciate the convo with the christian precisely because he is a believer and christians need to hear the arguments
Ruslán on the pod 🔥
Lmfao I lost it when Destiny said😂
Destiny- “Miracles were a lot more common before the IPhone came out”
Probably best podcast greatful he’s representing the Christian community! And sharing his faith with these men! Keep planting seeds