‘We are going to learn from Orania’: Gayton McKenzie visits the Afrikaans-only town in SA
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- PA leader Gayton McKenzie visited the Afrikaans town Orania in the Northern Cape in May 2023. Here are some highlights of his visit.
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As a black person I see nothing wrong with Orania. These are ordinary citizens who found a plot in a middle of a desert and built something without any tax money from the country. And yet we have the ANC who have been in control of the country for the past 30 years and they’ve never built anything.
They can’t even replace pit toilets with flushing toilets in schools. All the infrastructure they inherited from the Apartheid government is now collapsing (e.g the airports, cities, national roads, railways, universities, state owned enterprises and even borders….🤷🏿 black people must learn instead of hating and complaining.
true
Well said
You said as a black person you see nothing wrong? Than you are a fool.
Xhosa Orania now....lesson learnt
THE BEST RESPONSE TO A FOOL IS NO RESPONSE M
Bro left his car keys and bag , laptop every thing , that’s faith right there
That is how the whole South Africa should be. That is how it used to be 30 years ago.
That's how human beings should live.
@uromvictor back in the 80s and 90s my grandfather used to park his bakkie in town, and leave the keys inside. Today it gets stolen, even if you lock it and have an alarm system.
If they can do it then we all can do. Sustainable is key to Orania. A town off the grid Well done
It's an amazing town with a promising future but it's not yet off the grid at least in terms of electricity but I believe it will be soon.
@@itumelengmahaole5890 thanks for that. I think I need to go and visit.
Yes difference is Oranje cares about its people, whereas ANC is selling their people out to gangsters and globalist elites.
Thats how every citizen of RSA should live : Safe , Educated, Best Health Care , Fabulous Sanitary, Thriving Economy, Awesome Infrastructure.
Where's the democracy..😂
@@shakeelmohideen7172 South Africa has no democracy .
@@shakeelmohideen7172 does democracy mean everything must fail for all to be equal? If that is democracy, i do not want it. Respect and discipline is what is needed. With that most issues will be sorted out. People will talk, listen and find solutions.
I aggree.
True that.
He made a valid point in one of his previous videos, questioning why our government would travel to Asia and Dubai to learn from them when we have the opportunity to learn from Orania right in our own backyard.
why not visit apartheid museum, and learn about white supremacism.
What I mean is Orania got more Land than Nama Koi-San and others got no Land where is the Land as big as Orania Mckenzie can develop and put them?
No they dont want people
It's a small piece of land in the middle of nowhere so it didn't have much value then. It's about what a community can build from the little they have. The government owns many, many times more land. Why don't the Black Millionaires who have benefited multiple fold times from tenders (we won't talk about whether they were corrupt or not - that's a separate discussion) group tother and create their own version of a small town where other black people can come and subscribe to a certain lifestyle - like no stealing, working for a living and helping to build a place for their family and future generations..? There are so many black people who have the skills to do this. I'll tell you why.. Because once a black man becomes affluent.. He wants to live the very same lifestyle of the white man he claims to hate...and he doesn't care about his community, only about himself.
@@ruthndala5778The Zulu have a lot of ancestral land.
Guys, Orania is not a Town but a privately owned "plot" or piece of land. The people on that "plot" can do whatever they want hence the government can't intervene.
So when does a "privately owned plot" or piece of land become a town?
It's a town. Do more research.
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It is a municipality
You can't say it's a town when it's not a town... That's a claim.
take note. the place is clean. no LITTER
As a non white these guy are getting something right
YOU THINK???
learn from them plz bantuz
@B_DUBZ313
When last did you think?
😂 😂
Yes, zero foreigners, no drug & sex trafficking no criminal activities. Orania is free and safe, not like the citizens of S.A😂😂😂😂😂😂
Each town and city should start doing this that way it will push out the corruption.
shall they do this when ESKOM is down
White people are the only saints in the world. Lets keep it that way
Bantoe Orania
Well done for shaking things up...
You dont need to learn from Orania. We already know how to do this.The problem is the corrupt make it to difficult for us .
learn from orania
Not just corruption but the good honest people keeping quiet enables the corruption to continue.
Wonderful Wonderful Gaten Mckenzie
This is how it should be
This is when people have pride in community and thier culture and want the best for thier community with godliness in mind,
This is a FALLACY, A CULT FULL OF IMPERIALISTS
when a xenophobe visit white supremacist
... godliness in mind? You done lost your mind fool.
If Godliness means no stealing and working to provide a living for your self and your family, not drinking in public and creating a nuisance, then God isn't the problem, it's the other people's version of what they think their behaviour should be like. I'm not white and I don't see an issue of like minded people what to to something together to benefit each other.
What godliness in segregation? actually, these people are sick
DIE HELE LAND KAN SO LYK.
Dit het nooit....hoe wil jy dit nou regkry ??? Keep dreaming !!!
@@truth-Hurts375 Ons kan probeer want one is darem nie domkoppe nie
Nee, dit kan nie.
Wow ! It clean & wow !
It's all about having a healthy conscious mind. In other other words, don't work for your own gain but for the people. That's exactly what Oranje is doing. Everyone through out the world is searching for PEACE. The people of Oranje is happy. May the universe bless the entire world with Peace, cause that's all we need. ❤❤❤❤
2024 is South Africa's last chance.
The ANC must fokof
And put Vuilbekke like you in power??? What a fokop is that going to be ????
Its do or die for this country but i just know deep down there will still be a lot of dom donners voting ANC next year. May God have mercy on their souls because I won't.
Did you know, that you cannot live in Orania of you have a criminal record? They will simply not allow you
And if you are coloured person you are not allowed too.....That is being racist and such group needs to be punished by SA law
@@hiribumadabuma6871oh get the chip off your shoulder. People have gathered and lived with their own people for centuries. Nothing wrong with it. You are just upset that this place shows who is actually the problem in SA.
@@hiribumadabuma6871 freedom of association, private property 😉
@@hiribumadabuma6871 Maybe if you denounce graffiti, we can make a plan?
Yes please stay away if you colored. Whites only
I'm behind u my bro,cos we must understand that change is the only constant thing bound to happen in one's life.
I learnt a lot from this video. No rape , murder , theft , burning and looting. A very clean place. No corruption. A beautiful South Africa was handed over in 1994. Today its destroyed. Nothing is functioning. Very soon SA will be in total darkness.
Most importantly, ZERO FOREIGNERS 😂😂😂😂😂
I love everything about this city....keep on doing what u doing guys...
I want to go there. But I will puke if I see a statue of P.W Botha. Hated by many Afrikaans people like me.
It’s not a city it’s not a town is just land far off the grid it’s a very small place even a township is bigger than that nothing special
None of this would be allowed in the us or Europe beacuse lands cost millions to own in other countries
We can all learn from each other
What is also interesting is the land is like a barren land which they bought from the government. Orania don't have to bother spending money on prisons service, immigration, public welfare, etc. This is just teaching us that as man is created in the image of God, there is so much we can do if we keep the right focus. In life, sometimes you learn from your enemy. How wonderful it would be, if everybody in South Africa holds a job.
I wanna move to Orania😭
If you are black, sorry 🤣
@@WalterWhite-bc8ck orania is not about white or black. Its a place for people pf the same culture to live together. Afrikaans speaking christians of good standing and no criminal records.
@@mikespencer4922 there are plenty black folks who have those same values.... And with even much more determination to better their lives however... We all know sundown towns right
@@mikespencer4922AND you need a big bank balance. To invest in the place and development. They don't take working class and below Afrikaans people.😅
Their ownership to that piece of land is no different to the ownership of land by Ingonyama Trust.
Ingonyama Trust leases land etc and these guys are developing it for their own people
Is the "Ingonyama Trust" self-sustainable like Orania can I go there is it a town or city?
You can.. But just like a private gated estate, the right of admission is reserved.. And that's what it is... A private piece of land where none of South Africa's tax money is used for the upkeep of the place.
@@zeed5764 where is it, show me the road map to the town.
Thank you kind sir.😅
McKenzie killed me when .....that's a apartheid flag 😂😂😂
True, 😂😂I laughed so hard
He reminds me of Borat for some reason..
Baie skoon dorpie...
😂😂😂😂😂 testing the waters?
Yes 😂
I want to move to Orania!
Thomas Sowell and Mr McKenzie would be interesting. Even Mr Sowell and and Malema would be truly fantastic!
How dare you put these uneducated morons against Sowell. Sowell is an Economist, he deals in raw data and not rhetoric. You just pissed me off with this insult to Sowell.
Sowell would destroy malema😂😂😂
run by people who know what they are doing, the ANC hates Orania because they are such a good example of good management
I can bet you they don’t have load shedding?
Solar...
We need the government that will have blacks, whites, coloreds and indian in the police stations, any post in the parliament has to have for of those kids of people, not cele only in his position.
Speak to people with respect Gayton ,and they in turn well treat you with respect
imagine what these people could do with the billions stolen by the ANC.
Damn, 😂😂😂 In 30 yrs ANC never opened 1 new University. Orania has a University and technical college and schools
BLACKS IN AMERICA. THIS IS THE SAME THING YOU ALL NEED TO DO. HAVE THEIR OWN CURRENCY. I LOVE THE CONCEPTS
Love when you said "This is not rocket science"
Is Orania a country within South Africa?
No.
@Nic Grobler But I hear that it has its own currency and its own bank. If that's true, how does it function within a country that already has a national currency ? I don't understand
According to Gayton so coloured voters must be careful of this man
@@paulnbarros1400 You may find some info regarding your questions on Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania
@@paulnbarros1400Orania has a bank. Depends on what you mean by it's own currency. Orania has the Ora that functions like a coupon that can be used only in the shops of Orania. The value of the Ora is the same as the rand. So 1 Ora equals to 1 rand. You can trade it back to rand anytime. ( As long it is still valid) It is more of a safety precaution. It is not meant to replace the rand. A new series comes out every three years.
The only thing most blacks ppl will be against this is the inability to develop they township into something like.Otherwise kudo to orania
You are building that community with the stolen money that your father's and grandfathers stole from Black people that you are naming here. Black people have done so much for this country, not everything is perfect we know that. You build block of houses now you think you can run this country with that racist mentality. Why is your racist DA failing to run the municipalities they have? If you don't stop with that mentality you have this country will not move forward because of people like you. Go stay in Orania and leave the black people you naming on this platform.
Touching on our original sin with that comment. It was never segregation, our crime was seperation. What followed was accusations and activisim which prompted further retaliation.
They don’t even “ try” though.
And this is a good example for any peoples ( if you want to mix, fine). The key is community and keep it small.
But wasn’t bhobutotswana almost similar, because it was known as a developed homeland back then with suncity and stuff.
Bophuthatswana
@@bongiwemapoma4630 thanks I was struggling with the spelling
It was something like that but different. They were still dependant on the central goverment but had their own armies, police hospitals and so on. They also had their own "governments" and TV station. BOP TV.
Bop even had a prince
Bophuthatswana was never a real country acknowledged internationally, it was a fantasy republic used to disenfranchise Black South Africans and make them citizens of a non-existant country. It's shocking to see the lack of education among our own people when it comes to apartheid era policies and frauds.
So what they learnt is...
The afrikaners do it better.
We need a Clean and Litter free Country like Orania...
There's leadership there unlike in our own government.
Touching on the busts of the old leaders seemed disrespectful.
Why can't each province be independent it will be so much better because each province will want to be better than the other my opinion
Place is very clean and selfish
The government should invite them to collaborate, in economics and development, even on land reforms if they assist the government I think SA could move forward.
That doesn't look like the "Oranje blanje blou" flag at all. What a great and sustainable little town. May they set an example for the rest of the country to see how good leadership affects what needs to be done to get things back to the way they were.
It's an Orange white and blue flag.
@@KorpusV6 I didn't see white in the middle. Only saw 🔵 and 🍊 🟧 📙 ✴️ 🟠 🔸️
This flag's colors situate in a horizontal "pattern", like the Italian flag. As where the old flag's "pattern" is vertical, similiar to the German flag. It also had the Union Jack on the left,Free state flag in the centre and SA Republic on the right ; as you probably already know this.
P.S. I just went to Google the Orania flag. It does have white in it(my apologies), but it's a person pulling up his sleeve. Nothing like the old one. Go google it.
If they moving differently and it it is working then it is worth finding out what they doing and learn from them.
People like Gayton Mckenzie are comparing apples to pears. An entire nation like South Africa, in comparison to Orania's small community? There's more accountability in small communities, for starters. But I will not hark for a place like this because IT IS CREATED IN THE NAME OF SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT.
Why clean & safe such a big surprise for africans?
This is my madeness
What's the name of their currency
I think its Orans
The Ora.
10 Ora😂😂
You look very pleased?? Why??
Why is he happy i don't understand,
Black people continue to vote for ANC 😂😂😂
Vote cANCer
A group of people who stepped in to take care of their people whom the BEE policy doesn't allow for. They are making a way for them to contribute and add value to their existence. Come on SA other countries have their residents separate their waste at their home. Tins, paper&cardboard, glass, plastic all separate.
It's important to remember that it's done on a small scale.
Because it is privately funded and surely they dont want to do it on a provincial scale. Much like Lichtenstein
SMWX "Orania’s dark history: the story of South Africa’s whites-only town" video on UA-cam is none-bias and speaks the truth about the architects of Oriana are the same architects of Apartheid. SMWX video is Worth watching
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Hulle kom met ‘n kak houding. Jy gaan nie na ‘n ou se huis en sê sy dinge sleg nie.
that person has no intention of studying orania, there is no point in it because it is difficult to integrate 2 cultures.
The comments in here are concerning...depressing yoooo
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Die verskil is elke sent gaan vir projeks daar in Orania tenderpreneurs steel die geld
wonder what happened that caused them to fly the flag at half-staff.
The town was in mourn. Someone died.
You can't get that massive land which is in Africa in Netherlands go and check
and your point is?
Question, Why do Afrikaans people speak to Coloured people in English even though they know well we understand Afrikaans?
I don't know what you're trying to stir, but in Cape Town, PE, and even Jhb I see white and coloured people speaking Afrikaans all the time.
He looks so happy yhooo! I'm sure he's the first non white man to be in Orania.
Nope, Morningshot has been there as well, to name a few.
You should know Nelson Mandela and Jacob Zume visited Orania already
No learning no Growth
You cant come to an occupied land and claim you discovered the land... The statue is a colonial History. Us Africans never worshipped any being but believe on a supernatural create. We named mountain rocks and more. We will oneday claim that land same as Rassia and Ukraine,China and Taiwan not sure please correct me.
It's not whites only it's Afrikaans white only get it right with understanding plz me as a English white man I'm not aloud to live there
I like there I d
I mean do you see how apartheid there's no ciggrettes or alcohol places or even a drug place so has usual I have the right solution even the town there no drugs or taverns or ciggrettes their were talking of the ex presidents which ruled and how none of the above existed in those days I was also part of it like my grandparents or parents knew what was a club or a drug
Hearing him insult their flag by calling it an 'apartheid' flag shows how ignorant and dishonest this GAYton is.
The color is the same, but Orania has a man rolling up his sleeve on the flag. NB!!!! NOT many S.A citizens go there, so we think it's the old past, but Orania is very modern and advanced. There a UA-camr that did a very good vid and interview of the place.
Iam your follower but one thing u are making as mistake to racialise south africans
Its not race. Its culture. There no whites of any other culture thre either.its Afrikaans christians. It seems this triggers your oown racism though.
when is Gayton visiting African refugees who are homeless.
He is for SOUTH AFRICANS. Go ask that question to your own leaders, what does Gayton have anything to do with African refugees?
@@zipporahyourexplorer4891 Orania are not from Africa, They were from Dutch
@@jameskillu9171 So when are the homeless african refugees going to do what these dutch people do? oh wait, they going to blame the dutch people. and these people are afican, south african
@@jameskillu9171 you always have your 2 cent B S to pump
Killu, Folks from Orange aren't from Africa, but at least they aren't a nuisance to anybody. These Afrikaners are working very hard to take care of their own
Share with their fellow Afrikaners in their space and not crying for what they've not worked for. So, what are African leaders do for their own? IGBOS from Nigeria were left in Sudan! Let's hope they've been fetched by now by their country. So, don't come here and pour water on People who work hard and caring for their own because of your jealousy. Nx
You are instigating Gayton. You called them rasist but yet you want to learn from them.
Gayton is a thief, he is planning what to loot or black mail them for, may be land
And you think they are not racist??? Ha facking ha !!! Carl Boshoff s mother was the sister of Hendrik Verwoerd...why the hell did they put up a statue of Verwoerd...why did his wife lived there untill she died??? You lost your mind.
Please it is not instigating it's admirations we also would like to know how they operate
even enemies can teach you a valuable lesson
Very interesting.
Know they are white, when they start by saying as a non white or as a black person 😂😂
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. He is the new Mangosuthu Buthelezi. There is nothing to learn from this racist enclave. Imagine still flying the apartheid flag. This will NOT stand. Not in this new African generation.
that aint the apartheid flag
What is the ideology of these people.Brothers you should know and not be deceived
He’s a criminal. Full stop.
n u r a saint
So you not a sinner
Look like the apartheid vlag!😂😂😂😂😂 Jy kom seker van gister gebore.
... One day we will take over our forefathers land 🤞🤞🤞
On that "one day" ,be prepared for your children to be raised by someone else...
and do what with it...make it look like Zim...
Homosapiens originated in Africa around 200 000 years ago. Therefore all our forefathers come from Africa and Africa belongs to everyone on this earth. So stand in line pal.
Aaagh shame !😭😭
Stay in your townships. Leave Orania alone.
No country recognises Orania as an independent and sovereign nation including south Africa. So this nonses of Afrikaanas saying they independent in our country is rubbish no1 is independent here on our ancestral land.
lol
Yawn
This is the type of comment we get when people are too lazy to pull up the sleeves and work for the greater good. When you sit outside your house and blame everyone because you live in poverty and expect handouts from your government. Take some pride and roll up the sleeves and start the same project in your area. The change should start with YOU. They did it with "stockvel". They've learned from YOU how to generate money to get where they are today.
He is a sell out
Niyawazi ama sellout... We are depressed because of the current government kodwa anikhulumi fokol ngaloko🙄
@@mrtranslator1328 Haaa indaba le mina ngikhuluma indaba ye Africa yonke baibona kanjani I hope isiZulu sami ngiyazama hahaha. La e Europe umuhlaba uyakokelua uya renta uthenge umuzi uyakoka. Maunga khaki uhamba e Court.
@@mrtranslator1328 ngiyafunda esiZulu sorry ne broken Zulu
Anc are the real sellouts
You don't know what you talking about.Orania is there because of the ANC not Gayton.ANC gave or sell that land to the Afrikaners, they did not stole or grab.Whatever question you have about Orania
Gayton is it the RSA that u want for south Africans with apartheid regime flags and racist colonize mentality
Did you even listen what he said? they DON'T fly apartheid flag, they have theiir own flag.
It's not an apartheid flag.
Would you prefer all of us to suffer in a township and get robbed of our belongings 😂
Because they enough money
A black man will always think that money will solve his problems. That's how the rest of the African countries are bought off and rebel groups started.
We will come there n do what they did t our ancestors
Go back to apartheid. You narrow minded. You don't want change
Stop dreaming it will never happen you can go and try your luck and see what is going to happen
Lol OK w will c
Who's we ? You and who ? It just shows how small minded you are and don't appreciate the good that people do for themselves. Grow up !
Typical darkie not wanting to see progress yabanye abantu. Sihlulekile jealous down
We learn nothing from them nothing special there it's just a of land
Fix your own country first. Those people are serious about life. Check , they named that Area Orania but your black government failed to name our country AZANIA. South Africa is a little location on the map of the African continent. It's South Africa and Central African Republic. What a shame
By that comment, I can see why we are fu#@ed
Since black government took SA this country filth and crime and government corruption is the order of the day.we never had loadshedding and everystreet there Are Paras drug addicts today.SA is totally fucked.
U are still playing games in Africa,oneday u I'll pay
unfortunately too many racists live here
Our SA government is weak. How do you allow such community???
It's good and thriving community. Jews have their own community. Zulus have their own community. What's the problem numb nuts
Nothing wrong with this community... blacks we have failed shem over and over again. Zero leadership, let ppl choose how they wanna live. Plus they work hard for what they want! We dont learn, all we know is to complain and do Nothing
Just like how you allow AA, BEE and cadre employment.
Do some homework - this was a small piece of land in the middle of nowhere that they bought long ago. It's a private piece of land just like how a gated estate works except they expanded over time.
Don't break down what other people have because you don't know how to create your own. I salute them for creating a healthy environment for their children. I'm not white, nor do I have a desire to go live there, but you have to give credit where it's due. Do you know they don't employ any black people to do any of their work..? This shows that they are a self sustaining community.
@@zeed5764I thought mostly AA had this mindset.
But I guess it truly IS in the DNA.
@@Kate-it7cnIt's just like the book Animal Farm.. they have been sold the lie that they do not have stuff because others have it, whilst the few comrades leading, enjoy lives of luxury. The government keeps their own people poor to control them. It's communism in action, except the masses do not comprehend it.
Why no Mandela picture why why
Mckenzie ek het nou wel DA gestem. maar hou van wat jy doen. hou so aan en jy sal baie stemme werf. miskien word die arm chair experts wakker en leer by jou hoe dit gedoen moet word
P a thanks for visiting them
Can black people go and live there will they be wormly welcomed and also can black children also go to school there im just asking not racially
No they can't because they're not culturally Afrikaans or subscribe to Afrikaans beliefs and traditions. You could group up a whole lot of Zulu or Xhosa people for example, who and build your own little town and start inviting other people with similar beliefs to come live there. Finance is not a problem - there are millions of Black millionaires nowadays. I'm sure the government will even just give you a piece of land as part of redistribution.
The point is an Afrikaans language and cultural reserve, so no. Its not that they're racist, its just to preserve our minority culture.
Gayton mackenzie is weak we cannot rely on you
I love him...weak based on what? You could learn from everyone making progress whether you like them or not!
Why are you so angry?
Gayton 4 President