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  • What are Python's staticmethod and classmethod?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 138

  • @QuantumHistorian
    @QuantumHistorian 2 роки тому +121

    One thing that probably ought to have been mentioned alongside class methods are class variables. If you're only accessing class variables with a method, it's probably better to make it a class method. Makes it clear what you're doing and prevents accidentally overwriting class variables with method ones. But class variables aren't all that common to begin with, so this is kind of niche. Still, this is the only major use case outside of alternate constructors (and maybe singlets?) I can think of.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +34

      Yes thanks for pointing this out! In reality I pretty much never see this, but it's good to be prepared!

    • @Friedrich713
      @Friedrich713 2 роки тому +2

      @@mCoding The scenario where I often fall back to using class variables is when I want to bundle some functionality together, but actually never need an instance of the class. Alternatively one could create a module (this would be the functional programming approach), but if the bundle is rather small, it's just a bit less convenient when importing.

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron Рік тому

      I use class attributes all the time. Say, I have a constellation of 5 identical satellites, and my class holds their data. I'll handle the data in a base class, and each satellite gets a class color, or matplotlib position, so I can plot data clearly...for every orbit. There are other satellite dependencies that get handled a class attributes, like "bad channels", since thing break in space. Also: launch date, nominal equator crossing time, etc, etc....

  • @maxskoryk1466
    @maxskoryk1466 2 роки тому +19

    I've been working on a task that has to do with constructing a class instance with additional arguments and couldn't wrap my head around how to do that without breaking the existing API. This video couldn't have come more timely: now that I know that there's such thing as classmethod, I'll explore a bit more about that, and I think this will be handy in solving my problem. THANK YOU for the excellent content!

  • @re.liable
    @re.liable 2 роки тому +41

    I was just using staticmethods on my project the other day. I just like having the extra namespace for being more explicit 🙂 Cheers!

  • @ciscoortega9789
    @ciscoortega9789 2 роки тому +16

    What a coincidence, I just learned about staticmethod the other day! Great video, great explanations. Thanks very much.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +3

      Very welcome!

  • @Jakub1989YTb
    @Jakub1989YTb 2 роки тому +12

    Becoming a UA-cam Python legend, one video at a time.
    Great work. I'm, so glad I found your channel in it's "early" stage.
    I dig you'r thumbnails too. Simple, but class Y:.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +5

      Glad to have you aboard! I'm amazed you call it the early stage! I remember when I had 30 videos and only 29 subscribers, that was the early stage for me!!

  • @pavelkovalenko8845
    @pavelkovalenko8845 2 роки тому +4

    I have been doing python for years now for research projects and uni homeworks. Basically been using with it almost all the time that I worked. I never got to learn these concepts tho despite trying a couple of times - all of the tutorials are either too basic or too specific to follow. This channel really fills that gap with flying colors, and I cannot stress enough how great of a find it is for me. Thanks, keep and up the good work!

  • @lphillis1
    @lphillis1 2 роки тому +4

    These videos are amazing for intermediate level Python programmers and professional use. Keep making more!

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +2

      That's the goal! See you in the next one! (Or maybe in a previous one first?)

  • @orisphera
    @orisphera 2 роки тому +5

    For the matrices, I think it's better to do this:
    class Matrix:
    ...
    def can_multiply(self, other):
    ...
    and use a.can_multply(b). This way, you don't have to make a map from classes to functions or use things like type(a).__module__.can_multiply(a, b) to check if you can multiply two variables of unknown type.

    • @PeterZaitcev
      @PeterZaitcev Рік тому

      AND you still can call it Matrix.can_multiply(a, b)

  • @akshatsrivastava3379
    @akshatsrivastava3379 2 роки тому +4

    The black hole joke was funny

  • @alexd7466
    @alexd7466 2 роки тому +9

    A good thing to realize is that editors like Pycharm indicate there is something wrong with a method when the method does not use any instance or class variables, and showing the message "could be static". This causes a lot of confusion for beginning programmers who then change all methods to @staticmethods.

    • @HonsHon
      @HonsHon 2 роки тому

      Idk why but I actually like Visual Studio Code better for Python

  • @ADFsoft
    @ADFsoft 2 роки тому +12

    One reason to use static method is that they are inherited and can be re-defined in sub-classes.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 роки тому +3

      That’s true of all methods.
      Oh, you mean in place of top-level functions?

  • @mattlau04
    @mattlau04 2 роки тому +4

    Really helpful to learn what the use cases might be !

  • @RecursiveTriforce
    @RecursiveTriforce 2 роки тому +4

    It's just the arguments that change.
    normal: self, *args
    @classmethod: cls, *args
    @staticmethod: *args
    @property: self

  • @nigh_anxiety
    @nigh_anxiety 2 роки тому +4

    It wasn't mentioned, but I think another reason you might call a class method from an instance is if your instance was created from a factory based on an ABC or Protocol, so all of the classes have the same class method with potentially different content.
    Although in that case maybe its still better to have an instance method which wraps the class method.

  • @elefantsnablar
    @elefantsnablar 2 роки тому

    2:23 Been searching for a good explanation of why one typically uses classmethod instead of staticmethod for alternative constructors. This explained it perfectly. Thanks!

  • @reddragon3132
    @reddragon3132 2 роки тому +1

    A random use case for static methods I found was when parallelising code. If I call an instance method, the whole instance object would be passed to the child process - a massive overhead that caused pretty much negated the parallelisation gains. A static method allowed passing of only the required attributes to process

    • @aflous
      @aflous Місяць тому

      Static methods have no access to instance attributes, what are you talking about?

  • @anthonyrogers9849
    @anthonyrogers9849 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this. I have never used static methods myself and have sometimes wondered if I was missing an important use case. Guess not!

  • @ciberman
    @ciberman 2 роки тому

    I'm a C# developer learning python and I was very confused because there aren't any similar things like class methods in C# or any other mainstream OOP language (Ts, java, etc). So this video helped me a lot. Thank you!

  • @marcgentner1322
    @marcgentner1322 3 місяці тому

    love the full and simple explanaition. i use staticmethods when appling MVC structure to my api's
    from the user_model UserModel class i need only sertain methods from the UserModel class. so i can call whathever query method i need in my controllers.

  • @vikranttyagiRN
    @vikranttyagiRN 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Although I am gonna have to watch it a couple of times to let it all sink in.

  • @mauriciolomeli2940
    @mauriciolomeli2940 2 роки тому

    The ending brought so much nastalgia (e.g. binding). Thank you!

  • @sharkinahat
    @sharkinahat 2 роки тому +3

    Very nice video. I sometimes think staticmethod was added to please programmerd comming from Java.

  • @shashishekhar----
    @shashishekhar---- Рік тому

    Thank you for such a helpful video James! , much appreciated brother 👍🏼👏🏽

  • @Aang139
    @Aang139 2 роки тому

    My main use cases for static methods have been polymorphic work that doesn't need access to the cls or instance beyond variations in the type (rarest case), or serializer classes that use methods to (de)serialize a single field (i don't need the serializer class just the day passed in), or unit test classes

  • @khalilrouatbi6345
    @khalilrouatbi6345 2 роки тому

    clear and straight to the point!

  • @Eclipse_co5mic
    @Eclipse_co5mic Рік тому

    this was truly amazing. THANK YOU

  • @loucadufault6549
    @loucadufault6549 2 роки тому

    I got asked the difference between the two on an interview question last week!

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you

  • @ThijmenCodes
    @ThijmenCodes 2 роки тому +2

    Great info, thanks. I use static methods all the time, but I never knew that a class method was a thing!

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @ConsuelaPlaysRS
    @ConsuelaPlaysRS 2 роки тому

    I'd like to see a video about the 'global' and 'nonlocal' statements in python where you detail legitimate cases for when they can sensibly be used

  • @zakyvids6566
    @zakyvids6566 2 роки тому

    Hi James this is a very good channel
    I was wondering can you please make a 30 minute python crashcourse covering the basics of python
    I’m new to coding and wish to watch a short chars course from your channel as it’s very clear and concise simple to follow
    Please consider my request
    Thanks

    • @anthonyaouad4190
      @anthonyaouad4190 2 роки тому +1

      Hey, I suggest watching Corey Schafer he has some good tutorials for beginners. However they are longer than 30 mins!

  • @expirytrader5802
    @expirytrader5802 2 роки тому

    One of the best videos of your I really like it.

  • @kevinz1991
    @kevinz1991 2 роки тому

    Really great stuff thank you so much for making this

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 роки тому

    1:36 In certain countries, the weekend is Thursday and Friday.
    There is at least one country 🇲🇾, where certain states observe this rule, while others observe a Saturday/Sunday weekend.
    Now imagine the fun of different branches of some organization, operating in different states, trying to decide when you can make a call to another branch and expect somebody to answer ...

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому

      I think that writing a datetime library would probably be the hardest library to write that seems like it would be easy at first glance.

  • @its_code
    @its_code 2 роки тому +2

    WOW 😳 amazing information.
    Love 💕 from Pakistan

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @CaptainCsaba
    @CaptainCsaba 2 роки тому +3

    So when constructing a pandas DataFrame with the read_excel, read_csv or from_records etc, those are classmethods?

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +6

      Actually pandas makes them all freestanding functions. I guess they expect that you don't ever inherit from a DataFrame.

  • @MultiCraftTube
    @MultiCraftTube 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy learning new stuff in Python on this channel, but I wonder how usefull all of this is. Are there any enterprises operating on Python? :D

  • @MrSteini124
    @MrSteini124 2 роки тому

    Great as always, thanks

  • @makhdv
    @makhdv 2 роки тому

    would be nice to mention on typing more. Using mypy can_multiply(a: Matrix, b: Matrix) would have a nice context, imho.
    And is it always factory class methods, returning instance of class to keep inheritance, should become Generic[T] where T Calendar subclass, like ‘def from_json(cls, …) -> ???:’ ?

  • @robertbrummayer4908
    @robertbrummayer4908 2 роки тому

    Excellent video

  • @random_color_lemon
    @random_color_lemon Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @hanyanglee9018
    @hanyanglee9018 2 роки тому

    Since python is not static typed, a C.method() is not better than method(). But in static typed lang, such as c++, C.method() is much easier to remember and write, all you need to do is to remember C.me*, write C. and wait for the compiler and find the function start with me. In python, this trick is not stable even if you work with pycharm.

  • @not_vinkami
    @not_vinkami 2 роки тому +5

    1:33 "assuming of course we're ignoring people that live close to black holes."
    Physicists love this assumption

  • @norude
    @norude 2 роки тому

    2:23 ... and that exactly what happens with any immutable class, that has something like __add__, because you can not make method both *class* and *instance*
    Also you can not inherit from int for same reasons

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron Рік тому

    definitely use class methods as constructor helpers: do not do work in dunder init! It should just initialize instance attributes.

  • @danielderwertvolle6354
    @danielderwertvolle6354 2 роки тому

    0:57 "But sometimes when you write a method you don't really care about the specific instance of a class or maybe you don't have a specific instance yet. That's a good signal that what you are doing is..." applying OOP when you really shouldn't.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +1

      Sometimes, maybe! But let's not confuse using classes with using OOP.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 роки тому

      2:16 Should answer your argument.

  • @nurkleblurker2482
    @nurkleblurker2482 2 роки тому

    But wouldn't the class always be the same because the method is defined in a class? If cls is identical to type(self) then how is a class method useful?

  • @vekyll
    @vekyll 2 роки тому

    5:50 The fact that you aren't aware of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Static methods do have their valid usage, and although rare, it does occur and I've needed it one or two times in my programming career. It happens when you have e.g. a subclass B of class A, and it overrides the method m which doesn't depend on the specific instance--but of course it does depend on the class itself. For example, if you had IslamicCalendar, it would of course redefine what is_weekend means, but it would still be a static method.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому +1

      Hi no need for the offensive tone on this channel. Your example is not one I would recommend using a staticmethod for.

    • @vekyll
      @vekyll 2 роки тому

      @@mCoding "When you do use them, the justification for doing so is shaky at best" - do you consider that to be offensive tone?
      Again, telling me you don't like what I told you doesn't solve anything. What _would_ you recommend?

  • @th_sajal
    @th_sajal 2 роки тому

    Could you comment on what's the size of a class, like an empty class or the one containing some class variables. How does these differ, kind of memory allocation that happens during compilation?

  • @joseville
    @joseville 2 роки тому

    3:43 any thoughts on
    type(self).classattr
    vs
    self.__class__.classattr
    ?

  • @oddzhang
    @oddzhang 2 роки тому

    5:40 what is "context" exact meaning in Python with the static method

    • @terencetsang9518
      @terencetsang9518 2 роки тому +1

      He just meant the location the function is defined and its surroundings - nothing to do with the Python concept of context (manager).
      On its own the name `can_multiply()` may mean anything, but defining it as either a static method in some `Matrix` class, or a function in some `matrix` module, makes it clear that the function is meant to be used with matrices.

    • @oddzhang
      @oddzhang 2 роки тому

      @@terencetsang9518 Thanks, I supposed to get it.

  • @aadithyavarma
    @aadithyavarma 2 роки тому

    Amazing video! But why is Sunday given as "U" in your is_weekend() method?

    • @homelikebrick42
      @homelikebrick42 2 роки тому

      because then there would be 2 "S" days?

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 2 роки тому

      @@homelikebrick42 Thursday is also often an R when using single letter abbreviations of weekdays.

  • @trag1czny
    @trag1czny 2 роки тому +5

    discord gang 🤙🤙

    • @Sonyim414
      @Sonyim414 2 роки тому +2

      More like opened my UA-cam now gang

    • @p_square
      @p_square 2 роки тому

      🤝

  • @joeyv8197
    @joeyv8197 7 місяців тому

    Im in the middle of a python course and have been watching plenty of videos and a show about programming, how long did anyone else take to catch on?

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  7 місяців тому +1

      Keep at it! It can take years to see the importance of some of my videos, don't let them drag you down. Just keep coding and build stuff that interests you. The stuff that matters will become apparent through experience over time.

    • @joeyv8197
      @joeyv8197 7 місяців тому

      @@mCoding I'm def not expecting to get a job anytime soon but I have learned a lot and only a 3rd of the way through the course!

  • @MithicSpirit
    @MithicSpirit 2 роки тому +2

    Discord gang

  • @aonodensetsu
    @aonodensetsu 2 роки тому +2

    static methods are great, you can import the class and then know that Matrix.can_multiply is a function from the matrix file, instead of importing * and having a random can_multiply function in your namespace

    • @vekyll
      @vekyll 2 роки тому

      Static methods really are great, but 1) you're mixing classes and files, this is not Java where they are the same, 2) can_multiply is in fact an ordinary method, since a (and also b) is a Matrix. So yes, it is a good example of a method, but not of a static method.

  • @masheroz
    @masheroz 2 роки тому

    Would class methods cease to be a thing if there were the possibility of multiple constructors?

    • @alexd7466
      @alexd7466 2 роки тому

      creating alternative constructors is precisely why classmethods exists.

    • @masheroz
      @masheroz 2 роки тому

      @@alexd7466 then why not just have multiple constructors?

    • @alexd7466
      @alexd7466 2 роки тому +1

      @@masheroz We have 3 ways to create alternative constructors already, and you still need more?

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
    @lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 роки тому

    3:09 This can only work in a language where classes are first-class objects!

  • @kyle-silver
    @kyle-silver 2 роки тому +1

    Sometimes I use static methods for “private” class methods. If there’s some function specific to the class that happens to be static but I don’t want to expose as part of the public api, I think it’s a good way to signal “this functionality shouldn’t be used elsewhere”

    • @aadithyavarma
      @aadithyavarma 2 роки тому +1

      In python, one way to hint that a method is "private" is by using a single underscore.
      def _private_foo(self):
      pass
      The notion is that, this method should not be used outside the class it is defined.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 2 роки тому

      I think get what you're saying, but I don't think "private" is the correct term. And by public API, I assume you mean the module API? Static methods still exist in the class' public API. Like, if it was a module function, it implies that it can be used in any case where it applies, but if it is static, it implies that it should only be used with that class?

    • @aadithyavarma
      @aadithyavarma 2 роки тому

      @@atrus3823 When you make a method, a staticmethod, it means that the method will not be using any other variables or methods of the class it is in, but still makes sense to be inside the class due to the staticmethod doing something related to what the class is supposed to do.
      You can call the staticmethod with the class or the object of the class, outside the class and it still is valid and makes sense.
      If you want to make the method seem "private" meaning it does not make sense to use it outside the class, then adding a single "_" at the beginning of the method is the pythonic way to do it.
      In short, static and private are two independent features imo.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 2 роки тому

      @@aadithyavarma Why are replying this to me? Did you mean to reply to the original post?

    • @bartomiej368
      @bartomiej368 2 роки тому

      @@aadithyavarma i think he meant that (what i also do) that there are "helper" methods that are both private and static, when you need apply set of instructions on data, like formating, but don't want to write it several times.

  • @atrus3823
    @atrus3823 Рік тому

    I got a notification of a reply to a comment of mine, but now it seems to be gone. Was it deleted? If so, why?

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  Рік тому

      Wasn't me, probably yt auto spam filter.

    • @atrus3823
      @atrus3823 Рік тому

      @@mCoding oh well! Stuff happens 🤷

  • @zbaktube
    @zbaktube Рік тому

    at line 12, why Sunday is encoded as 'U'?

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  Рік тому

      Because sunday and saturday both start with S, it is common to represent sunday with U.

    • @zbaktube
      @zbaktube Рік тому

      ​@@mCoding I see, and 'T' 's are OK as they are not next to each other, aren't they?

    • @zbaktube
      @zbaktube Рік тому

      ​@@mCoding By the way, thanks, I did not know that

  • @itsmanikandanraju
    @itsmanikandanraju 2 роки тому

    Hi James, Good day to you.. I have been following your channel for quite some time. It was very helpful to understand unfamiliar python concepts. Could you pls make a video on UDP/TCP packets logging and manipulation with python. Love from India

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  2 роки тому

      Suggestion noted! Though if i were to cover tcp or udp it would probably be a C or C++ video as python would struggle with such primitives.

  • @friedkeenan
    @friedkeenan 2 роки тому

    For implementing classmrthod, you can also just call the constructor of types.MethodType which I find to be cleaner and more readable than calling `__get__` on the underlying function

  • @therandomsomeone.
    @therandomsomeone. 2 роки тому

    this channel has only one purpose
    it is to make overviews of python decorators

  • @tytywuu
    @tytywuu 2 роки тому

    assume that they do not live near black holes.
    very important assumption indeed

  • @sdprogrammers
    @sdprogrammers 2 роки тому

    Static variable

  • @pavelx6411
    @pavelx6411 2 роки тому

    Discord!!!!

  • @cristobaljvp
    @cristobaljvp 2 роки тому

    Lately I've been reading big libraries and classmethods are used a lot. I actually haven't need them until now, but I hope I can get the opportunity to use them.
    Good video as always. Thanks for the content!

  • @26-dimesional_Cube
    @26-dimesional_Cube 2 роки тому

    A hacker give this code to you
    def password(str_input, str_key): -> int
    Password_num = 0
    str_key_len=len(str_key)
    str_input_len=len(str_input)
    for i in range(str_input_len):
    Password_num += str_key.index(str_input[i])*str_key_len**(str_input_len-i-1)
    return Password_num
    This function can take a string and output the password needed to protect the string
    Puzzle: Make a inverted function where argument are password and str_key
    Input:
    Line 1: password
    Line 2: str_key
    Output: A string
    Constrains: str_key cannot have duplicate letter and must have at least character within the str_input

  • @codingcrashkurse6429
    @codingcrashkurse6429 2 роки тому

    I always learned: If you think about using a static method, you probably don´t want that method in your class. Can anyone proofe me wrong here?

    • @sadhlife
      @sadhlife 2 роки тому +2

      He explained it in the video with the "is_weekend" function.
      Staticmethods can be useful to provide context to the programmer that the function belongs to a class. Even if it doesn't need to be in it.

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian 2 роки тому +9

      I just like having things in a namespace. I also use it if the function is exclusively called by methods of a particular class. It's then a sign that says "You're not going to need this elsewhere, don't worry about it". Because when I read a module, I tend to read more carefully the standalone functions as things that I might want to call from outside the module. Burying something as an static method avoids that, and can mean that a method is defined close to where it's called, which further improves readability.
      But yes, it's a minor stylistic thing, and it can "softlock" future widening of scope.

  • @benvan3721
    @benvan3721 3 місяці тому

    thanks. but not right for a beginner learner. It's like reading a file

  • @SachinShukla230187
    @SachinShukla230187 7 місяців тому

    Confusing......

  • @markcuello5
    @markcuello5 2 роки тому

    HELP

  • @jonobrien8848
    @jonobrien8848 Рік тому

    static methods should just not be in the class since they don't use self.

  • @oamioxmocliox8082
    @oamioxmocliox8082 2 роки тому

    ;)

  • @adityahpatel
    @adityahpatel 5 місяців тому

    this is not a good example to illustrate of. Confuses more than simplifies

  • @obed818
    @obed818 2 роки тому

    Dont you want learn french language my friend ?

  • @Nieosoba
    @Nieosoba Рік тому

    eee sorry but not very good explanation, but thanks anyway

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  Рік тому

      Hello fellow person with an m avatar 👀. Perhaps you would enjoy my video on descriptors instead?

  • @IndellableHatesHandles
    @IndellableHatesHandles 2 роки тому +1

    Jeez, Python is becoming a patchwork. I find Java annotation-like syntax like this to be ugly. It doesn't fit Python at all.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 2 роки тому

      Decorators are not “annotations”. They are actual function calls.

  • @dDANiLiCHh
    @dDANiLiCHh Рік тому

    boring.

    • @mCoding
      @mCoding  Рік тому

      lol i don't disagree

  • @squeezyfranky620
    @squeezyfranky620 2 роки тому

    Why are you using pseudocode for teaching?
    In my opinion this video needs executing and real code. it's not that hard. For me as a beginner it took а few hours to uderstand what's realy going on with my own code.
    Please, add some more executing. It will make content so much easier to understand

  • @dhuhacorp9372
    @dhuhacorp9372 Рік тому

    Your explanation is jumping everywhere and make me confuse

  • @ahasibrifat7568
    @ahasibrifat7568 2 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @markcuello5
    @markcuello5 2 роки тому

    HELP