This is on ORR,s scheme . The defense is getting frustrated which is not good . Roquan and Kyle left before reporters came in . Unless they had an emergency . I don't know . We have the same players besides PQ and Geno . We do need to get an elite pass rusher to help this secondary out. SMH. Embarrassing. Receivers dropping passes , this is what they do when a defender is manning them up. Afraid of contact. Monken or Harbough got nervous when we couldn't run the ball , instead of continuing to try , they take Henry out the game. This is just what we do in the playoffs.
They don’t trust Orr anymore, they need to make changes or it’s going to come to a boiling point..well it kinda already has based on Marcus Williams not playing
I’m a browns fan..look this is suspicious shit we haven’t been able to block all year.weve been dropping balls all year.now all of a sudden Watson gets hurt and we’ve been asking stefanski to stop calling plays he was never good at calling plays even when he was with another team.now stefanski wants to change everything now he wants to win.suspicious
Coaching is killing the RAVENS team. RAVENS have almost the same defense players and they’re playing worse than last year. ZACK ORR failure is Harbaugh failure!!!. RAVENS need to hire an assistant DC that is experienced and much better than Zack Orr.
Did the Ravens jist choose to forget...Dean Pees calling card as DC was no sacks...and BS secondary play!? Now he is "advising" Zach Orr!?!? Ravens need to call Robert Salah and offer him DC...NOW....or overpay to get Rex Ryan. Ravens have plenty of talent...only added to a strong secondary for then to play this much worse compared to last season!?!? Makes no sense outside of absolute garbage scheming and overthinking. The only two coaches Bmore couldn't afford to lose this past offseason were Monken AND McDonald. McDonald should've been retained by overpaying him as DC and offering him HC after Harbaugh. Instead...next up...an average NFL LB that is coordinator just because he is passionate about football?? 😑🤦🏻♂️😑😎😑 Plus side here... This HAS TO...nudge the Ravens to make some personnel moves this upcoming week. Ravens must be aggressive at acquiring a pass rusher and/or CB. Marcus Williams has been absolutely HORRENDOUS this season! He is constantly out of position...and wtf happened to.him being a "ball hawk" and "play maker?" This game was set up as a trap game...and it went as such.
McDonald was not going to stay. Every coach's dream is to be Head Coach. Seattle was 9-8 last year so it was a perfect opportunity. Not a trash team like Carolina or the Jets.
@@davidmc8475 I understand that. Why wouldn't he stay when an organization of the stability and pedigree in Bmorr offers him more money to flourish as a standout DC...with thr guarantee he becomes next HC? He is really young still...and shouldn't be rushed to HC...they could've groomed him into the role by making his official AC as well at some point? I get taking a job when it is given to you...the Ravens should've seized a prime opportunity with a football mind that has a bright future and was clearly made to be around the Ravens.
Honestly, I'm not that mad at Zack Ohr. I'm mad that the Ravens put him in a position to fail. I've stood up for Harbs every year and I can't defend this. Yes Harbs may not call the defensive calls but it was his choice to hire Ohrr and he is the one who will stand up for him now. Tired of the excuses for letting struggling coordinators fail and then letting the team pay the price. Zack, you didn't deserve this but you shouldn't be given a pass simply because of Harb's pride and inability to take accountability for putting a green DC in a position to leverage a SB run. Someone has to go. Now
@@EdwardZupan I don't want Harbaugh gone per se. I want accountability. That is a loaded statement in and of itself too so I get the advice on being careful what you wish for. It just can't be "we did the right thing or will do the right thing" with hiring Orr and standing by him, a home-grown talent with big potential albeit VERY green. And we want to be an organization who owns what we do for good and bad. Owning it isn't marrying the bad decision of promoting a guy before he's ready. It's JH eating it at the podium and the press release saying he's resigned. The scheme is God awful. So many wide open gaps. Yes, I've seen missed assignments and I've seen drops on defense. This further makes my point, know when you've made a bad decision and make a change. That goes for Orr at DC, that goes for Eddie Jackson at S, and it goes for John when he fails to step up and make a HC call. I am not panicking, I've been wanting this scheme done with for weeks now. Let's take a hard look in the mirror after an embarrassing loss (no offense to you Brown's fan-dude)and make the tough decision. It'll hurt some feels but this is a business not a besties club. I wish Orr and Jackson the best, thank you for trying. We need to go in another direction
Sorry it's on both. Harbaugh for hiring Zach and Orr himself for accepting the job when he wasn't ready. Harbaugh should not have hired a coach who has never run the entire defense and called plays for a few years.
Facts exactly what happened he spoke out an got benched just like peters did to harbs on the sideline.. an I ain’t forget about ed reed calling harbs out years ago
No they didn’t, the Browns secondary matches up well against our receivers, and they are stout and disciplined upfront to stop the run. Anyone can throw on the ravens secondary, Jameis has an arm.
I blame this game on Munken and Harbaugh for allowing those foolishness…it took me back to the Chiefs game …I still can’t believe they took Lamar off the field twice to run trick plays …maybe the Ravens staff working with the Casino in Vegas!
You could tell on the first offensive drive that Monkton was off..... Lamar needs to "keep the pace" and tempo up in the game.... too many stalls and delays at the line.
It not Monken or Lamar the Browns still have an elite defense, with cornerbacks who can play tight man coverage, Ravens receivers mostly get open when Lamar runs around. These corners stick to receivers like glue.
@@williamalexander9485yup the browns have really good corners, very sticky in coverage. lol it’s gonna be the same way if we see the chiefs again in the playoffs because the play man more then anyone
@@treywilson6821 That’s why we need to get a number one wide receiver before the trade deadline. Zay Flowers is good between the 20s but he gets lost in red zone traffic inside opponent’s 20. Steve Spagnuolo always does a good job at designing a game plan against Lamar also.
Winston always has that gunslinger mentality . He generally gives you 1 int with every td thrown to a good defense , we only needed 1 of those, just 1 ?!.....
You can’t base the result of a game based on a single play. This team lacks a number one receiver and teams that can stop the run, and have good cover corners, who can make receivers uncomfortable can beat the Ravens. Lamar has to always run around to allow guys to get open, won’t work against the better teams
Everytime I say this I get called a fake fan and we don’t need receivers.I haven’t been proven wrong yet how everytime we face a good dline and solid cornerbacks we fold.11 carries for Henry idc keep running the ball we go pass heavy down a score reminded me of the afc championship game.All you need to beat the ravens is a game changer pass rusher and a good cornerback room and play man plus timely blitz.Thats the formula right there we not going anywhere near a superbowl.
@@guyfromnewark we didnt draft Brade and even Kane is 7th round pick not starter material, I do agree we give them a shot though, also we need pass rush and safety not o line or wr im not sure what you have watched to say we need to trade for o line or wr. the o line has been solid and the wr have 1 bad game now they suck i guess
@@PaulNies We need a new DC, DB and LB coach not more defensive players. These are the same guys from last season the only thing that changed was the coaches. But on offense we need a guy other than Zay to draw attention. Bate ain't it, Nelly isn't the most dependable and for whatever reason keeping both Likley and Andrews on the field at the same time is hard to do.
This is the worse Ravens defense I have ever seen… EVER!!! Fire or demote Orr, cut Jackson, restructure Williams’ contract and give him the veterans minimum (or get him out of here), sign an elite pass rusher or two, add another good corner, and Lamar needs an actual number 1 receiver with size.
Do you know games are actually fixed. The NFL is classified as “ Sports Entertainment.” The WWE is also classified as Sports Entertainment. Not difficult to connect the dots.
lol why would they fix it they make so much money . If one person leaked that it was fixed there goes their multibillion dollar business . Stop being a clown
@@EdwardZupanthe nfl started off racist aka no colored players at all.until one day they decided why don’t we make money off these ninjas.THATS why a lot of players say going through the combine and draft is like slavery because they did the same stuff.You have to no in the mind of a racist person they want control and rigging games and all of a sudden letting betting be legal this is there control.They know who’s gonna win and there making triple the money.ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
@@EdwardZupan Well Edward, ( no offense intended) there are people like yourself that believe some games are not fixed. Never heard of NBA refs fixing games? Ever hear of World Series being fixed ( google it) and then check UA-cam search “ nfl fixed” and watch for yourself.
RO an PQ played 99 percent of the snaps last year soo what’s really the problem is it Orr or Simpson or the scheme my point is John harbaugh has another blown lead in the 4th quarter again
Man I’m madder then glen damn that John harbaugh talking stupid post game like he don’t give a damn.. I’m tired of it I’m tired of EDC drafting hurt players ? I’m tired of Steve biscotti an owner who doesn’t give a damn as well he never steps in !!! Weak minded
I mean...in all seriousness...Trenton Simpson is jist fine replacing Queen...nothing lost there...secondary added depth...only player on defense that stings is Clowney...but even putting him back on the roster will not be much different...the SCHEME is flawed to put the entire secondary into BS situations. One word when watching Ravens Defense this season.... GROSS! 🤢
Man hell naw Trent Simpson ain’t PQ especially in coverage go watch the film 🎥 Ro an PQ had that connection I don’t see it with Simpson hell half the time I don’t even hear his name being called! For making a play.. he’s just out there
also Ravens receivers struggle to get open off of their routes. It takes Lamar running around for them to get open. They ran into an elite secondary that plays tight man
I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THE VIDEO AND NOT ONCE YET HAVE I HEARD YOU GUYS BLAME LAMAR HE PLAYED TERRIBLE AS WELL HE HAD TWO WIDE OPEN TOUCHDOWNS ONE WITH ZAY AND ONE WITH LIKELY DOWN THE MIDDLE ... HOW IS IT HARBAUGH'S FAULT THAT HIS PLAYERS PLAYED TERRIBLY HIS QUARTERBACK HAS RECEIVERS DEFENSIVE BACKS AND DEFENSIVE LINE
This is on ORR,s scheme . The defense is getting frustrated which is not good . Roquan and Kyle left before reporters came in . Unless they had an emergency . I don't know . We have the same players besides PQ and Geno . We do need to get an elite pass rusher to help this secondary out. SMH. Embarrassing. Receivers dropping passes , this is what they do when a defender is manning them up. Afraid of contact. Monken or Harbough got nervous when we couldn't run the ball , instead of continuing to try , they take Henry out the game. This is just what we do in the playoffs.
They don’t trust Orr anymore, they need to make changes or it’s going to come to a boiling point..well it kinda already has based on Marcus Williams not playing
Never seen Glenn lose it. LOL. Some of the play calling and drop passes/INTs were unbelievable
The only team that can beat the ravens, is the ravens
Nonsense
Fire Zach Orr, cut Eddie Jackson, and sign an edge.
I’m a browns fan..look this is suspicious shit we haven’t been able to block all year.weve been dropping balls all year.now all of a sudden Watson gets hurt and we’ve been asking stefanski to stop calling plays he was never good at calling plays even when he was with another team.now stefanski wants to change everything now he wants to win.suspicious
They still owe Watson 146
Biggest mistake Biscotti ever made was to allow Mike Mac outta the building! He shoulda fired Harbs and made Mac the HC
I swear Glen rants are freaking epic,and in some strange way they make me feel better 😂
We should call REX RYAN!!!
Coaching is killing the RAVENS team. RAVENS have almost the same defense players and they’re playing worse than last year. ZACK ORR failure is Harbaugh failure!!!. RAVENS need to hire an assistant DC that is experienced and much better than Zack Orr.
Robert Saleh is available.
He's actually already with the Packers now... sucks but oh well. @@davidmc8475
@@davidmc8475Was available. he's he helping another team I forgot which.
@@davidmc8475biscotti needs to hire Rex Ryan right now.
The ravens are better off going on the road in the playoffs.
Why not more short passes to Justice Hill?
Did the Ravens jist choose to forget...Dean Pees calling card as DC was no sacks...and BS secondary play!? Now he is "advising" Zach Orr!?!? Ravens need to call Robert Salah and offer him DC...NOW....or overpay to get Rex Ryan. Ravens have plenty of talent...only added to a strong secondary for then to play this much worse compared to last season!?!? Makes no sense outside of absolute garbage scheming and overthinking. The only two coaches Bmore couldn't afford to lose this past offseason were Monken AND McDonald. McDonald should've been retained by overpaying him as DC and offering him HC after Harbaugh. Instead...next up...an average NFL LB that is coordinator just because he is passionate about football?? 😑🤦🏻♂️😑😎😑
Plus side here...
This HAS TO...nudge the Ravens to make some personnel moves this upcoming week. Ravens must be aggressive at acquiring a pass rusher and/or CB. Marcus Williams has been absolutely HORRENDOUS this season! He is constantly out of position...and wtf happened to.him being a "ball hawk" and "play maker?"
This game was set up as a trap game...and it went as such.
@@christophershook3900 I think Sala took a job in Green Bay 😭
McDonald was not going to stay. Every coach's dream is to be Head Coach. Seattle was 9-8 last year so it was a perfect opportunity. Not a trash team like Carolina or the Jets.
@@davidmc8475 I understand that. Why wouldn't he stay when an organization of the stability and pedigree in Bmorr offers him more money to flourish as a standout DC...with thr guarantee he becomes next HC? He is really young still...and shouldn't be rushed to HC...they could've groomed him into the role by making his official AC as well at some point? I get taking a job when it is given to you...the Ravens should've seized a prime opportunity with a football mind that has a bright future and was clearly made to be around the Ravens.
The defense is terrible. They have given up 26 td so far.
I'm sooooo pissed like Who was this team? We need to get it together because the schedule gets HARDER 😮
Honestly, I'm not that mad at Zack Ohr. I'm mad that the Ravens put him in a position to fail. I've stood up for Harbs every year and I can't defend this. Yes Harbs may not call the defensive calls but it was his choice to hire Ohrr and he is the one who will stand up for him now. Tired of the excuses for letting struggling coordinators fail and then letting the team pay the price.
Zack, you didn't deserve this but you shouldn't be given a pass simply because of Harb's pride and inability to take accountability for putting a green DC in a position to leverage a SB run.
Someone has to go. Now
Browns fan here I can’t wait to see the day you fire harbaugh . I’ll have a big party . Be careful what you wish for
@@EdwardZupan I don't want Harbaugh gone per se. I want accountability. That is a loaded statement in and of itself too so I get the advice on being careful what you wish for.
It just can't be "we did the right thing or will do the right thing" with hiring Orr and standing by him, a home-grown talent with big potential albeit VERY green. And we want to be an organization who owns what we do for good and bad. Owning it isn't marrying the bad decision of promoting a guy before he's ready. It's JH eating it at the podium and the press release saying he's resigned.
The scheme is God awful. So many wide open gaps. Yes, I've seen missed assignments and I've seen drops on defense.
This further makes my point, know when you've made a bad decision and make a change. That goes for Orr at DC, that goes for Eddie Jackson at S, and it goes for John when he fails to step up and make a HC call.
I am not panicking, I've been wanting this scheme done with for weeks now. Let's take a hard look in the mirror after an embarrassing loss (no offense to you Brown's fan-dude)and make the tough decision. It'll hurt some feels but this is a business not a besties club. I wish Orr and Jackson the best, thank you for trying. We need to go in another direction
Sorry it's on both. Harbaugh for hiring Zach and Orr himself for accepting the job when he wasn't ready.
Harbaugh should not have hired a coach who has never run the entire defense and called plays for a few years.
Marcus Williams didn’t play probably because he said something to harbs
Facts exactly what happened he spoke out an got benched just like peters did to harbs on the sideline.. an I ain’t forget about ed reed calling harbs out years ago
I believe they took the browns for granted and thought they wasn’t coming to play being 1-6 “ they didn’t come ready to play
No they didn’t, the Browns secondary matches up well against our receivers, and they are stout and disciplined upfront to stop the run. Anyone can throw on the ravens secondary, Jameis has an arm.
This defense can't take anybody for granted .
I blame this game on Munken and Harbaugh for allowing those foolishness…it took me back to the Chiefs game …I still can’t believe they took Lamar off the field twice to run trick plays …maybe the Ravens staff working with the Casino in Vegas!
LMAO..... always coaches or refs!!! Wonder what Mahomes would do?
😂😂😂 LMAO....always the coaches or refs!!! Wonder what Mahomes would do? Cry ravens cry!!!
@@cliffwan4470a troll account?
You could tell on the first offensive drive that Monkton was off..... Lamar needs to "keep the pace" and tempo up in the game.... too many stalls and delays at the line.
It not Monken or Lamar the Browns still have an elite defense, with cornerbacks who can play tight man coverage, Ravens receivers mostly get open when Lamar runs around. These corners stick to receivers like glue.
@@williamalexander9485yup the browns have really good corners, very sticky in coverage. lol it’s gonna be the same way if we see the chiefs again in the playoffs because the play man more then anyone
@@treywilson6821 That’s why we need to get a number one wide receiver before the trade deadline. Zay Flowers is good between the 20s but he gets lost in red zone traffic inside opponent’s 20. Steve Spagnuolo always does a good job at designing a game plan against Lamar also.
Winston always has that gunslinger mentality . He generally gives you 1 int with every td thrown to a good defense , we only needed 1 of those, just 1 ?!.....
You can’t base the result of a game based on a single play. This team lacks a number one receiver and teams that can stop the run, and have good cover corners, who can make receivers uncomfortable can beat the Ravens. Lamar has to always run around to allow guys to get open, won’t work against the better teams
Everytime I say this I get called a fake fan and we don’t need receivers.I haven’t been proven wrong yet how everytime we face a good dline and solid cornerbacks we fold.11 carries for Henry idc keep running the ball we go pass heavy down a score reminded me of the afc championship game.All you need to beat the ravens is a game changer pass rusher and a good cornerback room and play man plus timely blitz.Thats the formula right there we not going anywhere near a superbowl.
Worst defense since 96
Cleveland should running Winston outta town right now 4-5 dropped picks instead he's a hero insane
We need to get a safety in a trade ASAP
We drafted two safeties Brade and Kane use them. We need a o-line or WR help w
@@guyfromnewark we didnt draft Brade and even Kane is 7th round pick not starter material, I do agree we give them a shot though, also we need pass rush and safety not o line or wr im not sure what you have watched to say we need to trade for o line or wr. the o line has been solid and the wr have 1 bad game now they suck i guess
@@PaulNies We need a new DC, DB and LB coach not more defensive players. These are the same guys from last season the only thing that changed was the coaches. But on offense we need a guy other than Zay to draw attention. Bate ain't it, Nelly isn't the most dependable and for whatever reason keeping both Likley and Andrews on the field at the same time is hard to do.
This is the worst defense I've ever seen in Baltimore 🤬😥
Once harbaugh used that catch phrase after the bucs win i knew we were cooked
Ty from NO and Maxx from LV now!! And get Calvin Ridley !
This is the worse Ravens defense I have ever seen… EVER!!! Fire or demote Orr, cut Jackson, restructure Williams’ contract and give him the veterans minimum (or get him out of here), sign an elite pass rusher or two, add another good corner, and Lamar needs an actual number 1 receiver with size.
Do you know games are actually fixed. The NFL is classified as “ Sports Entertainment.” The WWE is also classified as Sports Entertainment. Not difficult to connect the dots.
lol why would they fix it they make so much money . If one person leaked that it was fixed there goes their multibillion dollar business . Stop being a clown
@@EdwardZupanthe nfl started off racist aka no colored players at all.until one day they decided why don’t we make money off these ninjas.THATS why a lot of players say going through the combine and draft is like slavery because they did the same stuff.You have to no in the mind of a racist person they want control and rigging games and all of a sudden letting betting be legal this is there control.They know who’s gonna win and there making triple the money.ITS ALL ABOUT CONTROL.
@@EdwardZupan Well Edward, ( no offense intended) there are people like yourself that believe some games are not fixed. Never heard of NBA refs fixing games? Ever hear of World Series being fixed ( google it) and then check UA-cam search “ nfl fixed” and watch for yourself.
I agreed on everything glen said Eddie Jackson a mop
Coaching problem period !
RO an PQ played 99 percent of the snaps last year soo what’s really the problem is it Orr or Simpson or the scheme my point is John harbaugh has another blown lead in the 4th quarter again
Glenn…….My 🐐🐐🐐🐐✊🏾✊🏾
Great analysis, ravens coaching is cheeks.
They will not win vs KC
Every time they lose they think it’s an accident. Styles make fights
I'm with you , my brother. Pathetic.
We all keep saying that Justin Tucker needs to play better, but obviously our special teams coach is trash just like the rest of the coaching staff
What happened to play like a raven!
Is Patrick Queen even good?
Edc needs to make a move to quiet the noise .. that def is putrid and I never trusted bateman ever..
A jugs machine on the plane😂 that's bad
Sorry but the ravens losing to Jamis, Is not good.
Justin got that money 💴 an has been a non factor yoo robbing us blind
Let pees take over.im fine with that.. get this defense to middle of the pack and we're unstoppable
The sun was in bates eyes
Man I’m madder then glen damn that John harbaugh talking stupid post game like he don’t give a damn.. I’m tired of it I’m tired of EDC drafting hurt players ? I’m tired of Steve biscotti an owner who doesn’t give a damn as well he never steps in !!! Weak minded
The dog needs more camera time
Another missed FG.
I mean...in all seriousness...Trenton Simpson is jist fine replacing Queen...nothing lost there...secondary added depth...only player on defense that stings is Clowney...but even putting him back on the roster will not be much different...the SCHEME is flawed to put the entire secondary into BS situations.
One word when watching Ravens Defense this season....
GROSS!
🤢
Man hell naw Trent Simpson ain’t PQ especially in coverage go watch the film 🎥 Ro an PQ had that connection I don’t see it with Simpson hell half the time I don’t even hear his name being called! For making a play.. he’s just out there
CHOKIN ONCE AGAIN
Calm down
No run Defense in Clev
😂😂
Yeah track Henry’s last few times he’s faced the browns . Tell me his stats and get back to me
This sceme dictates 4 m2m corners that cqn press
also Ravens receivers struggle to get open off of their routes. It takes Lamar running around for them to get open. They ran into an elite secondary that plays tight man
I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THE VIDEO AND NOT ONCE YET HAVE I HEARD YOU GUYS BLAME LAMAR HE PLAYED TERRIBLE AS WELL HE HAD TWO WIDE OPEN TOUCHDOWNS ONE WITH ZAY AND ONE WITH LIKELY DOWN THE MIDDLE ... HOW IS IT HARBAUGH'S FAULT THAT HIS PLAYERS PLAYED TERRIBLY HIS QUARTERBACK HAS RECEIVERS DEFENSIVE BACKS AND DEFENSIVE LINE