Amen Thompson, Jalen Green and Rockets young core untouchable?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Adam Armbrecht is joined by Jackson Gatlin from Locked On Rockets for. a sobering perspective on Houston and their offseason. Yes, the Rockets want to improve their roster and Mikal Bridges is on the target board but Jackson paints a clear picture of a team that wants to improve, but is by no means desperate.
With a weak 2024 NBA Draft class, Houston does find themselves in a tight. spot, holding the third overall pick while preferring to land veteran talent. Even in the Nets for Phoenix pick-swap scenario, there is some indication 2025 would. be a sticking point.
Most of the chatter is coming out of Houston to this point, but it will be a fascinating lead up to the Draft, where once again Sean Marks will be in the drivers seat of the Brooklyn Nets future.
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Rockets own a bad teams future and would be foolish to give it back to them
And how long do you figure the Nets will be bad. Things can change very quickly.
@@afrolore7462 Nets don’t have lottery picks and they’re building around a role player who they loss 50 games with playing 82 games and they still haven’t seem to pick a direction so please tell me what is it you see that suggest that the Nets will be good anytime soon
Weren't the rockets a bad team the year before?
@@thebrogressiveagenda9936The Rockets have a lot of young talent and more importantly they have the Nets picks that are turning into top ten picks🤷🏿♂️there’s reason to be optimistic about their future…what is it exactly the Nets have?🤔
@@PrettyTone10377 lol, u totally lost the point by getting defensive. The point was that you can't predict the nets will be bad throughout the entirety of the time the rockets control their draft. Nets can be like the rockets next season and be a middling .500 team and the 2025 pick swap isn't as valuable.
Biting the bullet is the move right now. Do the Bridges, DFS and maybe the Philly 1st in 27 for Dillon Brooks, Jeff Green, Lonsdale if you need to and your pick control 25,26,27....Simmons goes off the books. Let Claxton walk....You'll have 3 first rounders in 25 and enough money to offer someone a max contract. And you can pair that with Clowney, Whitehead, Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas etc.
As Rockets Nation I approve of this trade
I don’t think y’all realize how valuable the 25/26/27 Nets picks are. Projected as INCREDIBLE drafts. Nets projected to be meh. Mikal not an all star and will want a big contract in 2 years.
Nets f’d up by not maximizing Mikal and trading him last offseason at max value.
Problem is….Nets aren’t going to tank with Houston having those picks. It makes no sense for them to do so. Better to get Bridges…maybe DFS and a future pick perhaps. Than to stand at and hope you can maybe work your way into the Play in.
Great show and Go Rockets!!
Appreciate you 🤙 Go Rockets(any game not playing the Nets)
Dudes...The Rockets core 6 is touchable, because they cannot resign them all. The Rockets will have to make a choice and the most obvious is between Green and Sengun. I hope they move Green and move Cam to SG fulltime, then draft Reed to backup PG & SG.
BTW, you say the Rockets are pushing a Nets trade is not necessarily a reality. Stone is not stupid.
For sure, but not at this moment. There is time to make those choices beyond this offseason.
We said Houston is pushing the narrative, 100% true as Nets have not made any calls, or vocalized any internet this offseason outside of wanting to move DFS for a pick. Houston is shopping right now, and working all the angles as they should.
@@LockedOnNets Of course, they have some time. They will make a decision on moving JG by the trade deadline or risk to lose him for nothing, unless they intend to resign him. JG's play will determine this. I don't see them moving Sengun. Here is a comment I wrote elsewhere as a Rockets' fan ...Would love your opinions on it:
Trading Brooks is not gonna happen. I don't even see that the Rockets have been serious about getting Bridges or any other vet to replace Brooks. I believe that most of this Bridges to Houston is just rumors and a lot of it is Nets fans looking for ways to get the Nets' picks back, because they now realize how bad the Harden trade was.
As for the Rockets, the only thing bad about Brooks is the length of his contract and that is not really a big problem. 3 more years, but it drops from 22.2m to 19.9m as the league cap goes up (another great move by Stone). On the other hand, Bridges' contract is also 3 more years, but it rises from 21.7m to 24.9m. That is 5 more million on the books in year 3 on a team that will be looking hard to save cap space anywhere, so they can keep as many of their young core 6 (7 if they draft at #3 and not trade JG) together for a long term run.
BTW, (for after next season) Stone had positioned several vet contracts that can come off the books and this is very telling of their intended direction: FVV 42.8m (optionable), Adams 12.6m, Landale 8m (optionable), Jeff Green 8.0m and Tate 7.5m. This totals to 78.9m that they can split between Sengun and JG or just resign Sengun, which will give them more options with vets for the following season(s) and for resigning Eason and Smith...then Amen and Cam...then the #3 pick (I hope Reed). I think JG is the first odd man out, then they will have to decide again on the young core (more than once). Bridges only makes this good problem worst.
In addition, I believe that the Rockets will keep Brooks for all the right reasons, including vet leadership and having great chemistry with Stephen Adams (for next season). The combination of FVV, Brooks and Adams is a huge positive factor (especially when you have only one year with Adams and Brooks together) for a playoff run next season, for which Adams and Brooks have done together twice as a 2nd seed in Memphis. This you cannot get with Bridges replacing Brooks just for a marginable increase of talent at starting SF...don't forget they have excellent options at SF on the bench already.
All the moves that Stone has done are very calculated with the future in mind...this is oblivious and that is his MO, which he is not going to change. To me, Stone is the best (GOAT) GM that the Rockets have ever had and I have been a fan since 1972 when they came to Houston. I have seen all the rosters, coaches and GMs and right now is the best I have ever seen minus Rudy T and the two years they won with Hakeem. Plus, the Rockets have a great chance to surpass those years in winning...roster and coach...they already did on the GM.
@@NOJSIPcan rockets trade JG4 in Lakers or Miami. We want him to play in. Lakers or Miami. We are going to be excited if JG4 could play in Lakers Miami?
@@Lezahfire I think the Rockets will look for a minimum of 2 future 1st (+ maybe 2 future swaps) and a backup big man for JG. Him on the LAL would be exciting.
@@NOJSIP yeah. some Lakers fans of him will be Very Happy if this happen. ☺️☺️☺️.. why do you JG4 to get traded? If you are rockets fan? Is it beacuse of SENGUN? I want their duo actually. But I still want to see JG in Lakers or Miami.
Fire Sean marks
LOVE the pod
Appreciate you 🤙
Joe stai needs to hire a real gm, yall fumbled the jalen green plus picks trade and are heavily over valuing Mikal. With that said trade Mikal to Houston for #3 ,A young player and some picks back.
Agree Nets blew a chance to get Green pre-turnaround.
Also agree give me 3rd overall, more picks and player for Bridges, no brainer.
Stone isn’t buying it not now not ever!!!
Brooklyn said they weren’t interested in trading Bridges to the Rockets. They said *THEY WERE NOT TRADING* Bridges. You guys are imagining things. Brooklyn would be foolish to trade Bridges to the Rockets for suspect players with ball handling and shooting issues, and for a bag of magic bean picks.
Well, I’m the one hand we were discussing ALL of the sides of HOU/BKN.
And on the other, Nets are making a massive mistake not gaining pick control pack for a player that we like and respect, but will not change the franchise future in any significant way.
@@LockedOnNets
If a basketball team listens to the people in the peanut gallery…they will forever be losers. Brooklyn would be crazy to trade Bridges for Green & Amen.
The 2025 swap isn't just a mystery box scenario. The Thunder own a swap with the Rockets. If the Rockets relinquish that swap, they're going from a possible lotto pick to the late twenties. There's a very clear and specific downgrade to the move. So when that swap gets included in mock trades, seemingly as a thrown-in, that needs to be recognized and addressed. Hence, why it gets put in by national media types and rejected by Rockets fans.
I dont think either fanbase considers that 2025 swap as a throw-in, its a sticking point for both sides. A trade for the nets don't make sense without it.
@@marlinesutherland5358 I'm mostly referring to non-fans of either team making mocks. Yeah, Nets fans definitely want it
Oh I get the why if it, more just that it’s an interesting thought process of having a deep draft class pick be(in this scenario) the thing that prevents getting the player you want.
Awesome work @ locked on nets.... I'm Def in between what they should so. It's hard to watch the team as is because they aren't that good but also don't sell the house for pennies otherwise you are crippling the franchise. Just hope they make smart decisions at this point don't make me stop being a Nets fan lol.
as a rockets fan I dont understand why the nets arent extremely willing to buy their picks back even if its a little expensive, put your future in your hands, superstars arent going to the nets to play with bridges theyd rather just wait till hes signable and then just sign him when you sign stars
There is zero chance the rockets include any of the core 6 for Mikal at this point in time. They had there chance to have Jalen before his breakout performance, now they have to bite the bullet and be at the mercy of Houston owning there draft capital for the foreseeable future. We will see if the nets are willing to play ball because they absolutely should, rebuilding is the only sustainable way for Brooklyn to get out of the hole they put themselves into
I disagree with Jackson. Rockets are playing with house money we see teams time and time again flame out with rushed moves. Run the course with the young crew and just keep the Nets picks. Only time to move them is if they are a top 1-3 team in the west with a clear missing piece
Adam is the best. Joe Tsai is too stubborn to do the right thing . Shame. Rockets are going nowhere and would be wise to give up all their picks for a trustworthy veteran like bridges
Rockets going nowhere? So the team that increased there win total by over 20 games, drafted 2 promising rookies and is led by a core 6 of young talented players AND owns the draft capital of one of the worst run organizations in the league for almost the next half decade has no future? Interesting take
Fire marks his incompetence is disgusting they thought way to highly of mikal bridges the time to trade him was before last season his value was at a all time high l.
No need to do this
Just trade DFS for a pick or a point guard and we'll be in the playoffs
Name the PG
Fans deserve a GM up grade plz !!!
Go Rockets! Go Nets!
From a Rockets fan perspective: I don't see any way to actually add Mikal Bridges to the starting lineup/rotation WITHOUT moving Dillon Brooks. They basically fulfill the exact same role and position Houston would want from them. Bridges is just a better player with a significantly smaller technical foul risk. I say that as someone who loves Dillon Brooks and everything he did for us last season. He was actually really good in the locker room and had zero off the court issues. To me, at least 3, maybe 4, of the young players are tradeable but the Dillon Brooks rotation situation has to be cleared up first before a Bridges trade can happen. Then you have consider that we aren't down on any of the young players and we think they can either be almost as good/better than Mikal Bridges, or that they fill an extremely important role for the team long term. The easiest way to explain it for me is, They are tradeable, but I'm more than willing to keep them. So it'd have to be a pretty big deal to include them in a trade and while I do like Mikal Bridges as a player, he's not a big enough deal to move those young guys, especially while they still have Dillon Brooks playing the exact same spot in the starting lineup and rotation that we'd want Bridges to do.
And for the guys in the livechat who were worried about Houston's Salary outlook going forward. You really don't have to. FVV's on a team option next season and Dillons contract actually shrinks each season. Jalen Green will get a Max, even if some fans like me would be very upset by it. Sengun will probably get a max too. Jabari Smith Jr. however won't be offered a max unless he explodes. He'll still be offered a good contract though, and Tari Eason will be offered a good but reasonable contract, but if he decides to leave in RFA, they'll grudgingly let him go. As of right now, with no changes, The Rockets really don't have to worry about salary until it's time for Cam Whitmore and Amen Thompson's extension talks to start. In fact the only thing that kind of throws a wrench in the salary would be the 12million+ the #3 pick this year automatically gets. Which is one of the biggest reasons Houston even wants to trade the pick.
Again, I'm just trying to provide you with the mindset of a Rockets fan in regards to a Mikal Bridges trade. I don't think Mikal Bridges is a shit player like some fans who are pissed off about the trade suggestions are, and I would be happy to have him on the team. But this is the outlook I have based on where the Rockets currently are and it makes no sense to trade for Bridges if it destabilizes the team in doing so.
DITTO
I also just want to be clear, I'm not saying Brooks has to be in the deal with the Nets for Bridges, just that the Rockets would have to have another deal lined up for Brooks in the works before they would pull the trigger on a Bridges trade.
Number three pick gets 8 mil, not 12 mil, in their first season
@@haroldhughes3881 Well in that case sportrac was wrong because that's where I got that number.
@@KyouOneZilla sportac must have adjusted recently, it currently has it a $10.1 million
At this point no I would not deal Mikal to the rockets it wouldn't be worth the value now at this point. Should of taken it when we were hearing rumors of 3-4 picks being offered for him. Now at this point we just accept what we have either sign clax back or let him walk. I hope maybe some way we can get the next 3 years back of our picks from HOU by trading mikal there but I doubt it. Houston has no reason to be helping us... I'mma just pray that overlord sean marks doesn't do more damage...
this podcast lacks the charisma jackson gatlin brings to the locked on rockets podcast
Yeah, Jackson really mailed it in on this one.
It’s just the microphone quality difference - that’s all
Locked on Nets guy is cool too
Opps NO big star player traded to the Rockets.
Opps traded the Nets picks for the Suns picks.
Opps NO trading down in the draft
Oppps they took Reed at #3
Houston are not going to set themselves back for bridges
Houston would be stupid to give up the 25 swap. 1) they swap with OKC without the Brooklyn swap 2) bridges isn’t a huge enough upgrade from Dillon brooks
Bridges averaged 20, 5, and 4 on a down year while brooks averaged 13, 3, and 2. Yes, bridges is a huge upgrade.
@@thebrogressiveagenda9936 how about defensively?
@@thebrogressiveagenda9936 Bridges had a 24% usage rate and Brooks had a 17% usage rate. Bridges is a better offensive player for sure, and is the main reason the Rockets would want him over Brooks. But Bridges usage would decrease in Houston and hopefully his efficiency would go up to counteract that.
For @pattrickmerete. Bridges is pretty good defensively and would fit just fine under Ime Udoka. Brooks started out the season very good defensively but dropped off a bit midway after his short injury stint. Neither team really loses much defensively in swap between the 2. Houstons team defense is just better than Brooklyns but that's more of a coaching issue than a player talent issue imo.
@@thebrogressiveagenda9936 Mikal is a number 1 option on BK. He would be a 3rd option at best in Houston. He is an upgrade offensively but not by much and arguably a worse defender than brooks. Why would houston give up unprotected picks for that?
@kingmoz you are assuming the brooklyn picks are going to continuously be lottery picks. So let's say you don't do the trade, then brooklyn uses the phoenix picks to get donovan mitchell. Now the nets are a playoff team again, and the brooklyn picks aren't as valuable. Don't forget the 2025 pick is a swap, and 2024 is widely considered a weak draft.
Get Real...The Nets picks have more value to the Rockets than the Nets or any other team.
Stone is not going to trade away a top lottery pick or any possible top lottery picks especially for Mikal Bridges. All this talk is just that...TALK.