Sven, A beautiful land across the ocean has been discovered, they call it Vinland! We should all move there. Oh no, remember Greenland? I'm not falling for that again.
LOL..! I read an article recently that Greenland actually was green during Viking times. IIRC this was figured out by archeology based on what they were eating. Early on they were eating sheep and goats, but as time progress the domestic animals were replaced by a mostly fish diet. This would fit perfectly with a cooling climate more like we see today. Wish I could find the article, I usually forget to bookmark sites that I need later. Any rate, the green part makes a lot of sense which helps explain why the Norse were able to last so long.
Dewey Dezimal Those germs would have decimated the Vikings even worse at that point. Had they not later intermarried with other Europeans, the pox would've wiped them out too when it reached Europe.
I like how you present first hand sources instead of just processing it like a wikipedia page like most history channels. It is a lot more authentic and gives the viewer judgement on the value/limitations of the source.
The colony in Greenland lasted for 400 years after the Hop colony in North America was abandoned. The Greenland Vikings knew about North America all that time but couldn't spare the resources to exploit inhabited territory. There is evidence that there were expeditions however. In about 1200 ad (If I remember correctly) records mention a fleet of warships led by a king heading west past Greenland. The thing is, what little we know of this period was handed down by word of mouth and finally recorded in Iceland decades later. This left huge gaps in the chronicle.
@@g-rexsaurus794 The Spaniards has better weapons and they didn't used man vs man combat techniques, those are different things, European were more advanced that the Aztecs, you cannot compare a tribe with an a massive Empire.
Tyler Solvestri Being the invading side with fewer people not knowing the land is the definition of a Viking, they won some and lost some. With the right circumstanses they could have won and with the wrong they would have been fucked. Thats the Viking Age in a nutshell.
North America has plenty of farmable land, air, liquid water, and other resources and you don't need a spacesuit to go out. It's nothing like the moon.
@@user-uy1rg8td1v Yeah, I'm just saying that back then, colonizing north america would have been like colonizing the moon. Settling is more difficult than exploring.
My mother is M'ikmaq, and while my maternal haplogroup traces from the Ice Age era land bridge, my paternal haplogroup is, well, Viking, haha. So, of course I enjoyed this video immensely!
@moptop guap I'm not about to get into an argument concerning my heritage with a dipshit on the Internet, so all I'll say is that my mother was born on Burnt Church reserve in N.B., Canada, and go on on my way.
@Thumpty Dumpty sounds like Sean's mom is who she says she is, and I would *love* to hear what conspiracy nonsense has you saying that the land bridge theory is racist and outdated lol
@Thumpty Dumpty Not only are you a belligerent dick, you are terrible at explaining yourself lol. Does anyone have any idea what this troll is talking about?
From the Icelandic Sagas: * The natives through way into a river the iron they did get from Vikings. * A lady who was with the Vikings in Vinland ended up going to Rome and becoming a Nun. What are the odds she told her story and it is in the Catholic archives? * Gravitas Extra Points: Two of the Sagas tell the story of a one legged Native killing a Viking Chieftain...and then outrunning the other Vikings and getting away. lol A look at an abandoned building and lot and how quickly it is overran by plants and essentially reclaimed by nature. No wonder very little remains of the Viking settlements after 1,000 years.
Who knows, since the Vikings supposed switched the names of Iceland and Greenland on their maps...maybe it was fake news. So I would completely dismiss this information if I were you.
@@JaEDLanc Have you read the thick 1000 pages Icelandic Sagas? Might do you some go to offset the narrative of Columbus "discovering" the Americas in 1492.
The Vikings should've tried to settle the Islands off the Coast on new Foundland like St.Pierre and Miquelon first. That way they would've had a tradeposte, a "homebase" off the coast. The Climate there is quiet similar to northern Britain so they would've had no problem building fishing towns there
Great video as usual - it was sill hard hundreds of years later when the English abandoned Roanoake in 1585 showing how hard this transatlantic colony thing is.
Haha I honestly just love the fact that my mother is Icelandic, and my father was born and raised in Newfoundland. I just got that PURE Viking blood flowing through my veins haha 😂
If those pirate rapists invaded your home today you have the right to shoot them Brian boru high king of Ireland destroyed the vikings in Ireland in the battle of clontarf 1014 ad
As someone that grew up on a Miramichi river I'll give you points for effort. It is pronounced "Meer-Ma-She" or "mare-ma-she". Also the locals say L'anse aux Meadows as "Lance ah Meadows"
When you're talking about a maybe 60-100 Norsemen, if none of them happened to be sick then you don't get any transmission of the disease. There many just not have been enough of them there for long enough for smallpox to spread to the Americas, or syphillis to spread back to Europe (syphillis likely originated in the Americas and caused a lot of deaths in Europe when it first arrived in the 15-16th centuries). After smallpox wiped out much of the population in South and Central America, Europeans brought African slaves to the Americas. The slaves brought malaria with them, introducing yet another deadly disease to the Americas. It was basically a three-way exchange of nasty killer diseases.
Smallpox wasnt widespread thoughout Europe until after the Crusades and the travel distance would have killed smallpox victims by the time they got there
Smallpox not only was not as far spread, but you also have to remember topography. Northern countries don't suffer most diseases due to manageable populations as well as the temperature and land topography. Most Diseases require warmer and humid locations to thrive.
One of history's great "what if" scenarios, you could argue that the scandinavians had done the hard part, building ocean going ships and navigating to the Americas, if only they realised what a place they had stumbled upon.
Eric the Red might have made a difference had a storm driven him to Viland instead of landing in Greenland the colony would have to be 1000 to 2000 people to succeed from the first.
Guys if the idea of Vikings meeting native americans fancy you make sure to see the movie Valhalla Rising, a wonderful (yet quite special) movie. VALHALLA RISING
I'm still upset that they didn't expand on the idea, especially one eyes death made no sense. I got completely lost after the one dude started mounting his mentally broken mate.
Another thing to consider is that the vikings of Iceland and Greenland at the time were probably not the fearsome behemoths most people believe them to be. Malnutrition and harsh living conditions literally shrunk and weakened them as is supported by archeological findings from Greenland. Given that and the natives home turf advantage and greater numbers it probably wasn't too hard for them to defeat the Vinland vikings.
You should have mentioned Thorfinnr Karlsefni from the Saga of Erik The Red. It is claimed that he tried to settle in Vinland and did stay for some time but was forced to leave because of the natives (Skraelings) repetitive attacks. Great video anyways, keep up the good content 👍🏻
In 1920 the Second largest Swedish city was Chicago (it had more Swedes living there than Gothenburg in sweden ), today the state of Wisconsin, Minnesota,North Dakota(2nd largest group after germans are the Norwegians) and Utah(lots of Mormons are Danish in ancestry) are dominated or are heavily influenced by Scandinavian culture. Also New Jersey was a Swedish Colony for a while . The Vikings hadn't colonised the Americas but there descendents surely did.
@@declannewton2556 not really lost. More like it was temporally occupied by the Brits during the 2nd anglo-dutch war and after the Dutch kicked the English arses it was 'traded' for Suriname and guess what , it was the better deal. The brits 'lost' new york in 1783, the dutch kept Suriname and it's wealth of resources till 1975.
The Isle of Bacus is now called l’île d'Orlean, it is in front of Quebec city, near a large Huron village at the time an anual meating place where 10,000 native gather to trade. They could grow weat in Greenland, twin harvest per year, due to the temperature at the time preceiding the little ice age. While they relied on trade from the old country, they didn't had any military support from any of them since Eric the Red, their leader, was a murdering criminal!
You failed to mention that the climate was much warmer at that time. Greenland was named that because it was a green land. As the climate changed Greenland was abandoned.
Imagine if the Ottomans got involved in Colonisation abroad!
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They did. Did you never hear of the Balkans, nor of the lands to the South? Lands now called Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Egypt? Until the Turks allied with the wrong side in WWI, they had a goodly empire. The case of Egypt is more complicated.
As someone with English, Native American, and Scandinavian blood, I am genuinely curious as to whether my Scandinavian heritage comes from their interbreeding with the English or the sailors that explored North America. Most likely the English ones, but you can never be truly sure.
It is my understanding they were processing bog iron at the site in Newfoundland which would explain why it wasn't a farming settlement. When Cartier arrived in the Bay de Chaleur he was met by speakers of an Iroquoian language not the Mi'maq (mee maug). The Miramici (meer a mishee) suffered a very severe wildfire during the 19th century so if there were a Norse settlement we are unlikely to find it. One of the factors nobody seems to mention is the heavy dependence on slavery in Norse culture. The inability to obtain slaves (neither the Beothuk nor the Mi'maq lived in permanent villages) was a real problem.
Some people say some of the east coast tribes like the Narragansett still bear genetic markers for Scandinavian DNA. I don't if it's true or not, but I always wondered if the Vikings brought any native americans back to Europe with them, because on my Irish side we have some traits that are somewhat native american, but no recent ancestry and no recorded ancestors. So I always wondered if the Norse brought some native blood with them back to Iceland and Ireland.
@@slipstreamxr3763 They have found Inuit DNA in Iceland. They are not sure whether this is from a pre-existing population or from Greenland. As for atypical traits amongst the Irish it's more likely from the pre-Indo-European Neolithic population that has left the highest DNA admixture in Ireland.
People from the Avalon, south coast, central and the west coast have different flavours to the accent and that’s why I believe it’s so hard for locals to agree on the pronunciations
Loved the video... but the Vinland flag? The part of North America the Vikings discovered didn't lie in the area of the 13 British Colonies that would later revolt. Newfoundland (Vinland), Labrador (Wunderstrand), and Baffin Island (Helluland) are all in present day Canada. Show me a Viking Bird of Prey in a blue background with the North Star in the upper left corner and you will have the flag right. The flag will then represent the period it refers to. Thanks Hilbert!
But you do realize that if the Vikings would have colonized that part of NA (now Canada) - and spread throughout - it would have completely changed the later dynamics of what became the US and what became Canada.
Just as everybody in the west wasn't a cowboy/gunfighter, all of the Norse weren't Viking warriors". Odds are the Norse who found Vinland weren't Vikings but just Norse farmers and fishermen.
At 4:29 Glad you pointed out that "arrowhead" was not the arrowhead found in a viking grave. That is a Folsom spear point which would push Indian -Viking contact to about 8.000 to 10.000 BCE.
What if one or both accounts were talking about a pseudo cereal like amaranth or quinoa and not actually wild wheat? Is wild wheat indigenous anywhere outside the fertile crescent?
Carb filled wheat like plants were cultivated all over earth. Wheat is genetically modified grasses. There are lots of grasses and lots of things you could emphasize to get the results you need in the environment.
What about communication of lack of communication? Shortly after Columbus voyage(s) several European countries were actively sending expeditions to the Americas, whereas after the Vikings voyages no other Europeans seemed to be aware of the discovery, did the Vikings keep it to themselves or is this an incorrect assumption? Perhaps it was due to the less developed state of European nation states at the time? Great channel, I always look forward to your videos!
Information spread very slowly back then most viking where illiterate and did not interact much with the christian people in the south because they would fight each other for religious reasons.
Yes, the expedition has been mentioned in later German sources. It is also possible Columbus himself may have been aware of it, as he used to be a navigator on a trading ship between Portugal and Norway.
they did establish a colony in greenland though...it just didnt last that long due to what seemed like a severe outbreak of some illness that killed everybody living there off in a few days
I do love a good history lesson. Although in my school my teacher told us that Mr Columbia didn't discover America. He said u can't discover something that already had people living here.
*wood age. Not stone age. The natives left the stone age approximately the same time europeans did. However the north American Natives did not develop the furnaces required to smelt Steel or iron, nor did they need to, with exceptionally hard almost iron like woods, and freely available elemental copper, and Iron ores where of low quality where they existed close to fuels (remember, no horses), it would have been pretty stupid to use a primitive forge or bloomery, an absolute waste of energy for the gains, so iron developed in central america, where the resources required to make iron made sense, and breeding, forest managment and and plant husbandry, made much much more sense, and they did so exceptionally well, to the point of literally turning entire forests into gardens!
@@endo_kun_da As a Finn I often mistekenly hear that as New Finland. I was actually kinda disappointed when I realized that it was actually written Newfoundland.
@@jokuvaan5175 Newfoundlander here, I just assumed we were always saying Newfoundland but the fast speaking local dialect makes it sound as though we are saying New Finland. Ie in my head I'm saying new found land bit it comes out sounding like newfin land.
The most probable reason The Scandinavians left America after 300 years there is the little ice age. The Mississippi culture and Greenland colony also disappered at that time.
Because even in 2019 some parts of Newfoundland (Vinland) are harsh af to live in. And Canadian First Nations are badass people And for future reference Newfoundland is pronounced like understand
Cool video. However Portugal discovered America in 1492 , they just didn’t tell anyone because they wanted it for themselves. They discovered it by mistake trying to go around Africa to India. So it went like this : Vikings, Portuguese , Columbus
This comment will probably be lost in all the others. But Hilbert, every time you play the Wilhelmus when there's anything to do with the Netherlands it makes me laugh so hard. The complete randomness of the Dutch anthem is a very nice trope. I never see it coming yet it's so obvious i'm going to get a Wilhelmus. Bravo to you.
natives werent living in the stone age. that is such a huge myth & actually there was over 5000 norsemen living in greenland before they were wiped out by the thule who later on become the inuit, one of the most peaceful native tribe in north america.
the Vikings that arrived with Leif had poor relations with the native. Europeans had been coming to the gulf of Maine to fish for cod for some time. They would come ashore, and the natives, who were numerous, would be happy to trade, but after a reasonable period, would make clear when it was time for them to leave. The Pilgrims were originally headed elsewhere than Plymouth. Perhaps they would have been told to leave, had not disease killed off most of the locals. So it was not superior technology that allowed Europeans to settle in North America. The Spanish were successful in central and south America more because the leveraged regional conflicts between natives, rather than technology.
We should colonize the USA and make it Vinland. Great stuff Hilbert. By the way are you gonna make a video about the Swedish vikings? I remember asking you this like a year ago but nothing happend.
@@creakychair9387 Iceland was settled by Norwegians. Leiv's father was a Norwegian, and their capitol Reykjavik was founded by Norwegians. By 1262 Iceland was offcially a part of Norway.
the Canadian flag is glorious, original and beautiful the way it is. Unlike most other countries who have boring flags with similar or repeating patterns and colour schemes. Maple Leaf for Life
The way you describe the Vikings in Vinland in this video, makes me think that you may be right about Vinland only being a place for resting and repairing ships. The Vikings wanted to go further south then Vinland. Question is if they ever did get to go south, or, if they fled back to Greenland after batteling the native americans.
yeah. and unicorns. or the Jedi. seriously, no1 should worship any god. but yeah, if worship were a must, anything would be more interesting than monotheism. it is f boring. I remember my history lessons from the good old days. first, we learnt about the gods of the pre-christian millenia. then we learnt about the new god who christians nowadays call god. at least, come up with a name! I found it a huge step back in creativity. the whole buhbl, on the other hand, would be 1st class script for a Hollywood movie
"native Americans" came from Asia. They're not native.. Furthermore, they are not one people. They were hundreds (if not thousands) of individual tribes (nations) that were continually waging war on each other over land, hunting and grazing "rights", as well as cultural differences..
@Hannah Guichard Oral traditions tend to die out as populations are displaced. This is why we don't have a great deal of native american history in general because once disease spread and wiped out great swaths of the local populations.... so does the history with it.
Emsnews Supkis Or Ivory became availible from other sources than walrus and the plague decreased number of people and economy so it was just not viable to stay.
So it’s kind of a stretch by I’m thinking about an alternate history series where Vinland was colonized and here’s my rationale. It’s around the year 100 AD, by in large Scandinavia has been almost completely christianized but there are still small groups of pagans (here called Ásatrúar) holding out. We know this because Olaf Tryggvason has several figured killed for refusing to convert and he died around this time, so it’s reasonable to assume there were still some but they basically had to hide their beliefs because they were terrified of persecution. So Leif goes on his first expedition and he brings back tales of this new world to the west. The word is that Leif wants to return but he’s looking for more people to join him. This word spreads to these small and terrified communities living in hiding and they decide it would be a great idea to leave Norway and join him on his next expedition. They manage to hide their beliefs from the other settlers but finally it’s decided that they’re going to leave because of drama involving Leif’s sister Freydis. One of these secret pagans stands up and basically says “Look, we would rather die than go back to Norway. So if you’re going to make us go, you might as well kill us here.” Leif thinks for a moment before decided he doesn’t want to deal with any more problems because this whole Vinland thing and so he agrees to let them stay so long as they swear before Odin and Christ that they will never sail east again. Of course, they agree to Leif’s terms. So now you have a group of 400 virtual outlaws who have to survive on their own. Somehow they manage to survive and form a foothold in the northern part of Newfoundland. They’re able to trade livestock for land and eventually expand into the rest of the island. They live in relative isolation after that for awhile until they believe their numbers are strong enough to take on the Mi’kmaq on the mainland.
@Johan Strydom Thanks Johan, I think it is a quite funny meme at 00:27, but I have noticed the same meme on a number of other UA-cam sites... it is good to see people remembering the Dutch...
We have a state named after Abel Tasman. Although I cannot understand why the Dutch did not further investigate "new Holland", Melbourne, my home city would be named after a Dutch person rather than the 2nd Viscount Melbourne...
Hilbert is Dutch/Frisian apparently. The founders of New Amsterdam were mostly Frisians btw. I wonder if there was any continuity between the Viking world, kinda including the Frisians, and later Dutch settlement in North America.
There is some evidence that would imply Columbus knew of the Vikings traveling across the Atlantic which is why he believed that he could get to India by going east.
Sander Skovly it’s been a long time sense I took a serious look into this, but according to, as I remember, the history of his life and places he had been it was possible he knew of the Vikings travels to Vineland. (Don’t know about the spelling sorry) he may have thought of this as just being a coast further north on the Asian continent and use that as his bases to theorize he could go west to get east.
betarage most people in Europe had no idea that there was two continents sitting out there dividing the Atlanta and Pacific Ocean. How ever once Columbus showed there was something or more to say someplace out there it wasn’t long before others from several countries set out to explore and claim the land for their home country.
i loved this video it was really cool! and it might be cool to cover more failed colonies like for example New sweeden (which hardly ever gets talked about) or the scots attempt at panama?
Great video I found it interesting mainly because it involves the area I live in! I think the berries mentioned growing on the shore and in salty water would be cranberries which are big fat red berries. Miramichi is pronounced meer-a-meh-shee. The word Mi'kmaq is pronounced mig-ma. Actually I'm going to send this video to a Mi'kmaq friend of mine I think he'll find it interesting for the history aspect of it especially 7:35. Edit: Cool or rad in Mi'kmaq is Nisk! So my friend may say nisk!
My guess is Vinland was only settled to be used as a repair base for return trips and/or future exploration missions, and wasn't settled to be a permanent place for more than a select few individuals. You pretty much summed up why I think it failed. As to why there's little evidence of trade, I suspect, like the Inuit in Greenland who the Vikings shared the land with, the Vikings likely thought the locals were inferior, so they didn't trade for anything that wasn't immediately beneficial, like food, stuff that'd be hard to prove had been acquired via trade. Also there is evidence, at the site, that the Vikings did travel inland somewhat, either to the extreme parts of Southern Ontario, or somewhere in the North Eastern US, due to the fact they found something to do with a tree species that doesn't grow that far north. My guess, at the very least, is they would have explored the St. Lawrence, and possibly the Great lakes region.
Vinland might have been around Cape Cod, because it's one of the few areas on the East coast were grapes do grow wild and in fact was one of the foods that the Wampanog brought the Pilgrim Sepratists many centuries later. The official historians will always tell you it was all in Newfoundland, but we all know the Smithsonian lies out it's ass.
Assimilation of 'Vikings' happened in England, Rus, Normandy, Poland, the exceptions were small island colonies like Orkney, the Faroe Islands, Hebrides and Iceland . Also it is worth consideringthe fate of Roanoke Colony in America. Another interesting video, thankyou.
I love this topic and have always wondered why they didn’t set up large colonies in the Americas. Great video Hilbert you have great videos to listen to while working.
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No gold to steal in what is now the Eastern US and Eastern Canada. Not enough manpower to fight off the Native Americans and Inuit.
I always wondered if the Vikings wandered further south to more warmer and fertile farmable lands, would the Vikings have realised what they discovered, and would that have changed history?
i know this comment is a year old, but we really only know about the vinland sagas because a few people decided to document it. the norwegian nobility had little to no interest in funding such an expensive endeavour, even if fertile lands were found. i suspect it likely would have jumpstarted european colonization though as such a discovery would definately spread across europe, rather than the vinland sagas barely surviving through the times and being nearly forgotten like they were in reality. i doubt norway would even have the funds or manpower to colonize the really fertile lands of america and canada as it would have increased travel by 1 or 2 thousand km, and the natives would have certainly fought back.
Greenland fascinates me too! There was a touring museum exhibit that came to Denver years ago called "Vikings, The North Atlantic Saga". The companion book is fabulous and it has a wonderful section on Greenland. Years later I read Jean Smiley's book "The Greenlanders" and at the end she talks about the people who were real and the evidence for parts of her story. I turned to the exhibit book, and there it was. Now I really want to go there someday. I would also like to go to Iceland, having read all the sagas but also because I am a geology geek along with being a history geek and Iceland is the ultimate for land creation and glaciers.
It was we Norwegians who settled Iceland and Greenland, founding the first Ielandic city and current capitol of Reykjavik. Both Eirkr Raudi and Leifr Eiriksson were Norwegians.
I don't discredit what you're saying but it only takes common sense to tell that the people that built the tallest pyramid in the world weren't as primitive as you make out, in fact they may have been behind in some ways but most definitely further ahead spiritually
Of course there is some evidence that the voyages to Vinland and beyond never stopped, that the Sinclair Clan from Scotland (originally Norse) continued to make crossings into the 14th century, especially for timber, furs and ivory. However, when the plague hit Europe, the demand for these things plummeted, as did the manpower required for such journeys and it took a couple of centuries for Europe's demand level to rise again. By then, as you mentioned, the technological advantage had expanded massively from the Middle Ages...
Because the Native Americans( Skraelings as the vikings called them) were VERY territorial and fought with them regularly. Truces were sometimes struck where the vikings and natives would trade but vikings were forbidden
Sven, A beautiful land across the ocean has been discovered, they call it Vinland! We should all move there.
Oh no, remember Greenland? I'm not falling for that again.
LOL..! I read an article recently that Greenland actually was green during Viking times. IIRC this was figured out by archeology based on what they were eating. Early on they were eating sheep and goats, but as time progress the domestic animals were replaced by a mostly fish diet. This would fit perfectly with a cooling climate more like we see today.
Wish I could find the article, I usually forget to bookmark sites that I need later. Any rate, the green part makes a lot of sense which helps explain why the Norse were able to last so long.
Great joke, but "Sveinn" is actually a viking name, not "Sven"
Oh, come now, Iceland turned out green. How bad can Vinland really be?
As an Icelander I laughed too much at that joke especially considering that
we've been telling that joke since we got here really.
@@LuvBorderCollies It was greenER than in the present time, but certainly still not green.
Thanks for the shoutout Hilbert! ⚔️
Youre great too
Why only have one reply? This is so sad
Imagine: If one of them coughed we may have the Norse States of America.
Dewey Dezimal Those germs would have decimated the Vikings even worse at that point. Had they not later intermarried with other Europeans, the pox would've wiped them out too when it reached Europe.
@@MogofWar I know.
Yeah lol, but more like Norse Canada
Fair enough!
Okay, this is epic
I like how you present first hand sources instead of just processing it like a wikipedia page like most history channels. It is a lot more authentic and gives the viewer judgement on the value/limitations of the source.
Hilbert the Vikings did colonized the Americas haven’t you heard of Minnesota?
I can confirm this! Im Swedish and live in Minnesota.
Is there a lot of Scandinavian folk living there?
@@adlalamb6229 There was a good bit of inmigration there from Scandinavia in the 19th century.
Adam Lamond yes. Swedish, Norwegian, and Finnish
They never went to Minnesota, it's a hoax
In Civ VI terms:
Norway decided to settle a city in the Medieval Era that was so far away that not even it's own traders could reach it.
The colony in Greenland lasted for 400 years after the Hop colony in North America was abandoned. The Greenland Vikings knew about North America all that time but couldn't spare the resources to exploit inhabited territory. There is evidence that there were expeditions however. In about 1200 ad (If I remember correctly) records mention a fleet of warships led by a king heading west past Greenland. The thing is, what little we know of this period was handed down by word of mouth and finally recorded in Iceland decades later. This left huge gaps in the chronicle.
. . . because booty was to the east.
The Swedes knew there were thicc dirhams in the East
@@historywithhilbert146 Abbasid's voluminous silver was always tempting.
Curious as to your thoughts about Barry Feld's "America BC."
leslie sylvan
Lol vikings in search of man booty
History With Hilbert “thicc”? Not subbed, learn to not spell using ignorant practices.
Imagine vikings meeting the aztecs! E P I C
Aztecs would have won since the Vikings are the invaders and they are less people and didn't know the land...
@@TylerSolvestriLiterally all of those arguments apply for the Spanish and those won overwhelmingly.
@@g-rexsaurus794 The Spaniards has better weapons and they didn't used man vs man combat techniques, those are different things, European were more advanced that the Aztecs, you cannot compare a tribe with an a massive Empire.
I would shid and fard
Tyler Solvestri
Being the invading side with fewer people not knowing the land is the definition of a Viking, they won some and lost some. With the right circumstanses they could have won and with the wrong they would have been fucked. Thats the Viking Age in a nutshell.
Why do you use an American inspired flag for Vinland when Vinland was in Canada?
MrMaxBoivin I mean that’s a good point - I’ll have a crack at making a Canadian-inspired Vinland flag
MrMaxBoivin Canada doesn’t exist
Hilbert feeds my US entitlement with impunity
MrMaxBoivin Canada is simply Little America
If vinland ever was a country they would probably have a generic cross flag like iceland
"Why not colonize the moon? We went there before."
"If you have a trillion dollars, be my guest."
Haven't you heard of Artemis? They're going back.
United States of the Moon :P
North America has plenty of farmable land, air, liquid water, and other resources and you don't need a spacesuit to go out. It's nothing like the moon.
@@user-uy1rg8td1v Yeah, I'm just saying that back then, colonizing north america would have been like colonizing the moon. Settling is more difficult than exploring.
@ That's why you get to decide whether or not you live on the moon. "Why would I raise a family on the moon? Well, the air is cheap. xD"
My mother is M'ikmaq, and while my maternal haplogroup traces from the Ice Age era land bridge, my paternal haplogroup is, well, Viking, haha. So, of course I enjoyed this video immensely!
@moptop guap I'm not about to get into an argument concerning my heritage with a dipshit on the Internet, so all I'll say is that my mother was born on Burnt Church reserve in N.B., Canada, and go on on my way.
@Thumpty Dumpty sounds like Sean's mom is who she says she is, and I would *love* to hear what conspiracy nonsense has you saying that the land bridge theory is racist and outdated lol
@Thumpty Dumpty thanks for the critique of me, but which archeological evidence are you talking about?
@Thumpty Dumpty Not only are you a belligerent dick, you are terrible at explaining yourself lol. Does anyone have any idea what this troll is talking about?
Ill send out a rescue helicopter to find the person who asked
From the Icelandic Sagas:
* The natives through way into a river the iron they did get from Vikings.
* A lady who was with the Vikings in Vinland ended up going to Rome and becoming a Nun. What are the odds she told her story and it is in the Catholic archives?
* Gravitas Extra Points: Two of the Sagas tell the story of a one legged Native killing a Viking Chieftain...and then outrunning the other Vikings and getting away. lol
A look at an abandoned building and lot and how quickly it is overran by plants and essentially reclaimed by nature. No wonder very little remains of the Viking settlements after 1,000 years.
fake news
Who knows, since the Vikings supposed switched the names of Iceland and Greenland on their maps...maybe it was fake news. So I would completely dismiss this information if I were you.
@@JaEDLanc Have you read the thick 1000 pages Icelandic Sagas? Might do you some go to offset the narrative of Columbus "discovering" the Americas in 1492.
The Vikings should've tried to settle the Islands off the Coast on new Foundland like St.Pierre and Miquelon first. That way they would've had a tradeposte, a "homebase" off the coast. The Climate there is quiet similar to northern Britain so they would've had no problem building fishing towns there
Great video as usual - it was sill hard hundreds of years later when the English abandoned Roanoake in 1585 showing how hard this transatlantic colony thing is.
Haha I honestly just love the fact that my mother is Icelandic, and my father was born and raised in Newfoundland.
I just got that PURE Viking blood flowing through my veins haha 😂
If those pirate rapists invaded your home today you have the right to shoot them Brian boru high king of Ireland destroyed the vikings in Ireland in the battle of clontarf 1014 ad
@@Buildbeautiful well the only right is the right of conquest so stop crying.
There is no such thing as Viking blood. Viking is an occupation, not an ethnicity.
As someone that grew up on a Miramichi river I'll give you points for effort. It is pronounced "Meer-Ma-She" or "mare-ma-she". Also the locals say L'anse aux Meadows as "Lance ah Meadows"
Bigger question why didn’t the natives get smallpox?
When you're talking about a maybe 60-100 Norsemen, if none of them happened to be sick then you don't get any transmission of the disease. There many just not have been enough of them there for long enough for smallpox to spread to the Americas, or syphillis to spread back to Europe (syphillis likely originated in the Americas and caused a lot of deaths in Europe when it first arrived in the 15-16th centuries). After smallpox wiped out much of the population in South and Central America, Europeans brought African slaves to the Americas. The slaves brought malaria with them, introducing yet another deadly disease to the Americas. It was basically a three-way exchange of nasty killer diseases.
The smallpox didn't reach Europe until a few centuries later.
Smallpox wasnt widespread thoughout Europe until after the Crusades and the travel distance would have killed smallpox victims by the time they got there
Smallpox not only was not as far spread, but you also have to remember topography. Northern countries don't suffer most diseases due to manageable populations as well as the temperature and land topography. Most Diseases require warmer and humid locations to thrive.
wasn’t as dense urban settlements back home (and in canada) so it was harder for it to begin in the first place
One of history's great "what if" scenarios, you could argue that the scandinavians had done the hard part, building ocean going ships and navigating to the Americas, if only they realised what a place they had stumbled upon.
my point also, it was not that they could not stayed, but it was that they did not wanted to stay
@Abraham Shekelbergstien I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say here? I think you're missing a word after "become"? Am I correct?
@@SeaShrimp The vikings were thieves and raiders. Ironically, African kingdoms were a lot better off financially than they were at the time.
Naw...the vikings would have used the Irish, lol.
@@SeaShrimp Africa at that time was more advanced than today. At least as societies and cultures
Eric the Red might have made a difference had a storm driven him to Viland instead of landing in Greenland the colony would have to be 1000 to 2000 people to succeed from the first.
*Erik or Eirik or Eirikur, not "Eric".
@@Onnarashi If you want to play that game, it would be Eiríkr Þorvaldsson or Eiríkr hinn rauði, as they didn't write modern icelandic in those days.
History time is one of my faves along with you hilbert and kings and generals.
"Oof" as a unit of measure, nice. I'm adding it to the Imperial standard since we like weird units.
Guys if the idea of Vikings meeting native americans fancy you make sure to see the movie Valhalla Rising, a wonderful (yet quite special) movie.
VALHALLA RISING
I'm still upset that they didn't expand on the idea, especially one eyes death made no sense. I got completely lost after the one dude started mounting his mentally broken mate.
Another thing to consider is that the vikings of Iceland and Greenland at the time were probably not the fearsome behemoths most people believe them to be. Malnutrition and harsh living conditions literally shrunk and weakened them as is supported by archeological findings from Greenland. Given that and the natives home turf advantage and greater numbers it probably wasn't too hard for them to defeat the Vinland vikings.
Apparently the viking setlers didn't only have to fight natives, but also fought between themselves, quite gruesomly, if the stories are correct.
You should have mentioned Thorfinnr Karlsefni from the Saga of Erik The Red. It is claimed that he tried to settle in Vinland and did stay for some time but was forced to leave because of the natives (Skraelings) repetitive attacks.
Great video anyways, keep up the good content 👍🏻
It's more likely that they would have created a Viking Canada, not a Viking United States so your thumbnail is wrong
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Oh yes master, tell us the truth@NPC #40249
@NPC #40249 they think we think the US is the world because we got everything the World has lol
@@micahistory the truth is that people just go by stereotypes without leaving there moms basement to see if its true
They probably would've colonised the costal areas all the way down to Georgia.
What a difference a few post bubonic germs and a couple of fire arms would have made.
I hit the dab for this great video mate never stop making this great stuff!
Thank you I really appreciate it!
Modern times, man. Dabbing, vape cartridges, edibles...
@Boco Corwin Smoking marijuana basically
In 1920 the Second largest Swedish city was Chicago (it had more Swedes living there than Gothenburg in sweden ), today the state of Wisconsin, Minnesota,North Dakota(2nd largest group after germans are the Norwegians) and Utah(lots of Mormons are Danish in ancestry) are dominated or are heavily influenced by Scandinavian culture. Also New Jersey was a Swedish Colony for a while . The Vikings hadn't colonised the Americas but there descendents surely did.
Shout out from Canada, Saskatchewan, British Columbia and Alberta, have a Shit ton of Norse descendants, I’m one of them!
I stopped watching porn for this, yet came anyway thanks to the glorious Dutch anthem. I thank you
Holländish
Long Live Turkey!
What a stupid and overrated joke
@@katrinajarrett4206 Fuck Turgay
No matter how much you bang your wooden cleets, the Dutch still lost New Amsterdam
@@declannewton2556 not really lost. More like it was temporally occupied by the Brits during the 2nd anglo-dutch war and after the Dutch kicked the English arses it was 'traded' for Suriname and guess what , it was the better deal. The brits 'lost' new york in 1783, the dutch kept Suriname and it's wealth of resources till 1975.
The Isle of Bacus is now called l’île d'Orlean, it is in front of Quebec city, near a large Huron village at the time an anual meating place where 10,000 native gather to trade. They could grow weat in Greenland, twin harvest per year, due to the temperature at the time preceiding the little ice age. While they relied on trade from the old country, they didn't had any military support from any of them since Eric the Red, their leader, was a murdering criminal!
This is a fantastic video. Just discovered your channel. Subbed. Thank you.
You failed to mention that the climate was much warmer at that time. Greenland was named that because it was a green land. As the climate changed Greenland was abandoned.
Imagine if the Ottomans got involved in Colonisation abroad!
They did. Did you never hear of the Balkans, nor of the lands to the South? Lands now called Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Egypt? Until the Turks allied with the wrong side in WWI, they had a goodly empire. The case of Egypt is more complicated.
Because there were no 7-Eleven’s. You know, when you’ve had a hard days battle, you got to have a Slurpee!
Fun fact:
As a norwegian I can tell you that «Vinland» in norwegian means «Wineland».
As someone with English, Native American, and Scandinavian blood, I am genuinely curious as to whether my Scandinavian heritage comes from their interbreeding with the English or the sailors that explored North America. Most likely the English ones, but you can never be truly sure.
It is my understanding they were processing bog iron at the site in Newfoundland which would explain why it wasn't a farming settlement.
When Cartier arrived in the Bay de Chaleur he was met by speakers of an Iroquoian language not the Mi'maq (mee maug). The Miramici (meer a mishee) suffered a very severe wildfire during the 19th century so if there were a Norse settlement we are unlikely to find it.
One of the factors nobody seems to mention is the heavy dependence on slavery in Norse culture. The inability to obtain slaves (neither the Beothuk nor the Mi'maq lived in permanent villages) was a real problem.
Some people say some of the east coast tribes like the Narragansett still bear genetic markers for Scandinavian DNA. I don't if it's true or not, but I always wondered if the Vikings brought any native americans back to Europe with them, because on my Irish side we have some traits that are somewhat native american, but no recent ancestry and no recorded ancestors. So I always wondered if the Norse brought some native blood with them back to Iceland and Ireland.
@@slipstreamxr3763 They have found Inuit DNA in Iceland. They are not sure whether this is from a pre-existing population or from Greenland. As for atypical traits amongst the Irish it's more likely from the pre-Indo-European Neolithic population that has left the highest DNA admixture in Ireland.
Newfoundland is pronounced something like "New Fun Land", at least by the modern locals of the area.
I think it’s more like Noof-un-lund but I’m no expert. I just remembered every syllable is different from what it looks like
@@saoirsedeltufo7436 Newfoundland rhymes with understand. Understand Newfoundland.
People from the Avalon, south coast, central and the west coast have different flavours to the accent and that’s why I believe it’s so hard for locals to agree on the pronunciations
Loved the video... but the Vinland flag? The part of North America the Vikings discovered didn't lie in the area of the 13 British Colonies that would later revolt. Newfoundland (Vinland), Labrador (Wunderstrand), and Baffin Island (Helluland) are all in present day Canada. Show me a Viking Bird of Prey in a blue background with the North Star in the upper left corner and you will have the flag right. The flag will then represent the period it refers to. Thanks Hilbert!
But you do realize that if the Vikings would have colonized that part of NA (now Canada) - and spread throughout - it would have completely changed the later dynamics of what became the US and what became Canada.
Just as everybody in the west wasn't a cowboy/gunfighter, all of the Norse weren't Viking warriors". Odds are the Norse who found Vinland weren't Vikings but just Norse farmers and fishermen.
That was good bro!
Thank you!
At 4:29 Glad you pointed out that "arrowhead" was not the arrowhead found in a viking grave. That is a Folsom spear point which would push Indian -Viking contact to about 8.000 to 10.000 BCE.
What if one or both accounts were talking about a pseudo cereal like amaranth or quinoa and not actually wild wheat? Is wild wheat indigenous anywhere outside the fertile crescent?
Carb filled wheat like plants were cultivated all over earth. Wheat is genetically modified grasses. There are lots of grasses and lots of things you could emphasize to get the results you need in the environment.
What about communication of lack of communication? Shortly after Columbus voyage(s) several European countries were actively sending expeditions to the Americas, whereas after the Vikings voyages no other Europeans seemed to be aware of the discovery, did the Vikings keep it to themselves or is this an incorrect assumption? Perhaps it was due to the less developed state of European nation states at the time?
Great channel, I always look forward to your videos!
Information spread very slowly back then most viking where illiterate and did not interact much with the christian people in the south because they would fight each other for religious reasons.
Yes, the expedition has been mentioned in later German sources. It is also possible Columbus himself may have been aware of it, as he used to be a navigator on a trading ship between Portugal and Norway.
"From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18 karat run of bad luck. The truth is, the game was rigged from the start"
they did establish a colony in greenland though...it just didnt last that long due to what seemed like a severe outbreak of some illness that killed everybody living there off in a few days
Because the vikings arrived too early and didn’t get to reap the benefit of colonising a land depopulated by 2/3rds by plague.
Nah m8 more like 9/10ths
Makes sense
i dont get why your putting the viking symbol on the American flag when they landed in Canada
I do love a good history lesson. Although in my school my teacher told us that Mr Columbia didn't discover America. He said u can't discover something that already had people living here.
*wood age. Not stone age. The natives left the stone age approximately the same time europeans did. However the north American Natives did not develop the furnaces required to smelt Steel or iron, nor did they need to, with exceptionally hard almost iron like woods, and freely available elemental copper, and Iron ores where of low quality where they existed close to fuels (remember, no horses), it would have been pretty stupid to use a primitive forge or bloomery, an absolute waste of energy for the gains, so iron developed in central america, where the resources required to make iron made sense, and breeding, forest managment and and plant husbandry, made much much more sense, and they did so exceptionally well, to the point of literally turning entire forests into gardens!
Actually, the Vikings travelled to Canada, so that would be a Canadian flag.
When are you flappy headed Canadians going to realize that everything really IS about us in the states...
It's okay Canada is really part of the USA
You’re like that kid at the sleepover after midnight is like “it’s tomorrow now”
And they would have spread south along the east coast and west along the St. Lawrence River and Great Lakes.
Actually, "Vikings" aren't a people so you mean Norwegian Norsemen.
They played the Dutch national anthem on Danish state radio yesterday.
Weird hearing it pronounced correctly. In eastern Canada we pronounce Newfoundland 'Newfundlund'.
Yeah, 'NEW-fn-land'
The newfies will soon be coming round the corner with pitchforks looking for an apology: watch?v=ZsRAjbKNspU
Newfinlaaan
@@endo_kun_da As a Finn I often mistekenly hear that as New Finland. I was actually kinda disappointed when I realized that it was actually written Newfoundland.
@@jokuvaan5175 Newfoundlander here, I just assumed we were always saying
Newfoundland but the fast speaking local dialect makes it sound as though we are saying New Finland. Ie in my head I'm saying new found land bit it comes out sounding like newfin land.
The most probable reason The Scandinavians left America after 300 years there is the little ice age. The Mississippi culture and Greenland colony also disappered at that time.
Because even in 2019 some parts of Newfoundland (Vinland) are harsh af to live in. And Canadian First Nations are badass people
And for future reference Newfoundland is pronounced like understand
Also for future reference, Mirimachi is pronounced [ˈmɛɚˌməˌʃi], or Mi r' m' chie, with the stress on the first and last syllables.
New Fond Land?
Cool video. However Portugal discovered America in 1492 , they just didn’t tell anyone because they wanted it for themselves. They discovered it by mistake trying to go around Africa to India. So it went like this : Vikings, Portuguese , Columbus
Can we get an F for Leif Erickson day not being a national holiday.
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EzECr1s 3O5 thank you!
This comment will probably be lost in all the others. But Hilbert, every time you play the Wilhelmus when there's anything to do with the Netherlands it makes me laugh so hard. The complete randomness of the Dutch anthem is a very nice trope. I never see it coming yet it's so obvious i'm going to get a Wilhelmus. Bravo to you.
I got here because "Fire of learning" posted a link.
Edit: As a Scandinavian, nice video
Same
Hilbert is insane, he managed to Put the Dutch in a Video about the Norwegian Vikings. Props for that
They couldn't get passed US customs as one of them was caught with a sharp thing, easy really!
natives werent living in the stone age. that is such a huge myth & actually there was over 5000 norsemen living in greenland before they were wiped out by the thule who later on become the inuit, one of the most peaceful native tribe in north america.
My skraeling ancestors sent my viking ancestors packing!
the Vikings that arrived with Leif had poor relations with the native. Europeans had been coming to the gulf of Maine to fish for cod for some time. They would come ashore, and the natives, who were numerous, would be happy to trade, but after a reasonable period, would make clear when it was time for them to leave. The Pilgrims were originally headed elsewhere than Plymouth. Perhaps they would have been told to leave, had not disease killed off most of the locals. So it was not superior technology that allowed Europeans to settle in North America. The Spanish were successful in central and south America more because the leveraged regional conflicts between natives, rather than technology.
7:33 Friendly tip: it’s pronounced Mikm - awe.
Keep on adding memes to your videos. I'm a big fan of it.
We should colonize the USA and make it Vinland. Great stuff Hilbert. By the way are you gonna make a video about the Swedish vikings? I remember asking you this like a year ago but nothing happend.
Who are "we"? Are you Norwegian? If not,then pipe down about "we".
@@Onnarashi Dude calm down i'm only joking. Also wasen't Leif from Iceland? should we not talk about how the Icelanders should colonize USA.
@@creakychair9387 Iceland was settled by Norwegians. Leiv's father was a Norwegian, and their capitol Reykjavik was founded by Norwegians. By 1262 Iceland was offcially a part of Norway.
@@Onnarashi Aye but i don't think that meant much to them or Leif. I don't even know it being Norwegian meant much to them at all.
They tried but didn't have the numbers or technology to maintain their conquered lands.
More like. Why doesnt the Canadian flag look like that instead of what it is
the Canadian flag is glorious, original and beautiful the way it is. Unlike most other countries who have boring flags with similar or repeating patterns and colour schemes. Maple Leaf for Life
@@stephfahey1101 looked better when it was the Red Ensign. Now it's just lame with 2 boring colors with a leaf that has no real significance
The way you describe the Vikings in Vinland in this video, makes me think that you may be right about Vinland only being a place for resting and repairing ships. The Vikings wanted to go further south then Vinland. Question is if they ever did get to go south, or, if they fled back to Greenland after batteling the native americans.
There are no "Native Americans" in Canada! There are Native CANADIANS! That's who the Vikings met!
@@jimm6095 Except they were all native to North America. Hence, native Americans.
More people should worship the old gods
yeah. and unicorns. or the Jedi. seriously, no1 should worship any god. but yeah, if worship were a must, anything would be more interesting than monotheism. it is f boring. I remember my history lessons from the good old days. first, we learnt about the gods of the pre-christian millenia. then we learnt about the new god who christians nowadays call god. at least, come up with a name! I found it a huge step back in creativity. the whole buhbl, on the other hand, would be 1st class script for a Hollywood movie
"native Americans" came from Asia. They're not native..
Furthermore, they are not one people. They were hundreds (if not thousands) of individual tribes (nations) that were continually waging war on each other over land, hunting and grazing "rights", as well as cultural differences..
You're not understanding my point.
They were still there before anyone else.
Don't forget the other genocide in Europe the Holodomor. Ukrainian holocaust. None of that had to do with Native Americans.
... I'm interested to know the native peoples perspevtive on the viking attempts... i wonder if stories of them were spread/lasted to modern day.
@Hannah Guichard Oral traditions tend to die out as populations are displaced. This is why we don't have a great deal of native american history in general because once disease spread and wiped out great swaths of the local populations.... so does the history with it.
@@jungoogie did they not have written history?
@@townbythetown Sadly a great deal of it was oral history and that's why we don't have much to go off of for native american history.
@@jungoogie oh i know it was mostly oral, thats why i was wondering. But yeah i guess that makes sense. Kinda sucks though
The Little Ice Age stopped the Norse. They totally died off in Greenland and nearly lost Iceland and suffered terribly in Scandinavia.
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Or Ivory became availible from other sources than walrus and the plague decreased number of people and economy so it was just not viable to stay.
Why hasn't history with Hilbert joined the Armchair Historians discord server
So it’s kind of a stretch by I’m thinking about an alternate history series where Vinland was colonized and here’s my rationale. It’s around the year 100 AD, by in large Scandinavia has been almost completely christianized but there are still small groups of pagans (here called Ásatrúar) holding out. We know this because Olaf Tryggvason has several figured killed for refusing to convert and he died around this time, so it’s reasonable to assume there were still some but they basically had to hide their beliefs because they were terrified of persecution. So Leif goes on his first expedition and he brings back tales of this new world to the west. The word is that Leif wants to return but he’s looking for more people to join him. This word spreads to these small and terrified communities living in hiding and they decide it would be a great idea to leave Norway and join him on his next expedition. They manage to hide their beliefs from the other settlers but finally it’s decided that they’re going to leave because of drama involving Leif’s sister Freydis. One of these secret pagans stands up and basically says “Look, we would rather die than go back to Norway. So if you’re going to make us go, you might as well kill us here.” Leif thinks for a moment before decided he doesn’t want to deal with any more problems because this whole Vinland thing and so he agrees to let them stay so long as they swear before Odin and Christ that they will never sail east again. Of course, they agree to Leif’s terms.
So now you have a group of 400 virtual outlaws who have to survive on their own. Somehow they manage to survive and form a foothold in the northern part of Newfoundland. They’re able to trade livestock for land and eventually expand into the rest of the island. They live in relative isolation after that for awhile until they believe their numbers are strong enough to take on the Mi’kmaq on the mainland.
who came here after watching vinland saga
Saw a few of them climb the walls of the Capitol on January 6, 2021...
What is this meme going on about the Dutch??? Classic!
@Johan Strydom Thanks Johan, I think it is a quite funny meme at 00:27, but I have noticed the same meme on a number of other UA-cam sites... it is good to see people remembering the Dutch...
We have a state named after Abel Tasman. Although I cannot understand why the Dutch did not further investigate "new Holland", Melbourne, my home city would be named after a Dutch person rather than the 2nd Viscount Melbourne...
Hilbert is Dutch/Frisian apparently. The founders of New Amsterdam were mostly Frisians btw. I wonder if there was any continuity between the Viking world, kinda including the Frisians, and later Dutch settlement in North America.
There is some evidence that would imply Columbus knew of the Vikings traveling across the Atlantic which is why he believed that he could get to India by going east.
Sander Skovly it’s been a long time sense I took a serious look into this, but according to, as I remember, the history of his life and places he had been it was possible he knew of the Vikings travels to Vineland. (Don’t know about the spelling sorry) he may have thought of this as just being a coast further north on the Asian continent and use that as his bases to theorize he could go west to get east.
If he did know about it he probably thought that vinland would be small and not 2 huge continents
betarage most people in Europe had no idea that there was two continents sitting out there dividing the Atlanta and Pacific Ocean. How ever once Columbus showed there was something or more to say someplace out there it wasn’t long before others from several countries set out to explore and claim the land for their home country.
i loved this video it was really cool! and it might be cool to cover more failed colonies like for example New sweeden (which hardly ever gets talked about) or the scots attempt at panama?
Great video I found it interesting mainly because it involves the area I live in! I think the berries mentioned growing on the shore and in salty water would be cranberries which are big fat red berries. Miramichi is pronounced meer-a-meh-shee. The word Mi'kmaq is pronounced mig-ma. Actually I'm going to send this video to a Mi'kmaq friend of mine I think he'll find it interesting for the history aspect of it especially 7:35. Edit: Cool or rad in Mi'kmaq is Nisk! So my friend may say nisk!
Why didn't they just use machine guns?
Very, very informative and thought provoking. Thanks so much!
My guess is Vinland was only settled to be used as a repair base for return trips and/or future exploration missions, and wasn't settled to be a permanent place for more than a select few individuals. You pretty much summed up why I think it failed. As to why there's little evidence of trade, I suspect, like the Inuit in Greenland who the Vikings shared the land with, the Vikings likely thought the locals were inferior, so they didn't trade for anything that wasn't immediately beneficial, like food, stuff that'd be hard to prove had been acquired via trade. Also there is evidence, at the site, that the Vikings did travel inland somewhat, either to the extreme parts of Southern Ontario, or somewhere in the North Eastern US, due to the fact they found something to do with a tree species that doesn't grow that far north. My guess, at the very least, is they would have explored the St. Lawrence, and possibly the Great lakes region.
Great video. I never knew about the other report on grapes and wheat. And thanks for heads up on History time channel.
Vinland might have been around Cape Cod, because it's one of the few areas on the East coast were grapes do grow wild and in fact was one of the foods that the Wampanog brought the Pilgrim Sepratists many centuries later. The official historians will always tell you it was all in Newfoundland, but we all know the Smithsonian lies out it's ass.
Assimilation of 'Vikings' happened in England, Rus, Normandy, Poland, the exceptions were small island colonies like Orkney, the Faroe Islands, Hebrides and Iceland . Also it is worth consideringthe fate of Roanoke Colony in America. Another interesting video, thankyou.
I thought it was still conjectured that Roanoke was NOT a Viking settlement...
Wonder what would have happened if they settled further south
Did not know about the channel history time.. and now I do.. heart for you.
Never get bored of these
I love this topic and have always wondered why they didn’t set up large colonies in the Americas.
Great video Hilbert you have great videos to listen to while working.
No gold to steal in what is now the Eastern US and Eastern Canada. Not enough manpower to fight off the Native Americans and Inuit.
I always wondered if the Vikings wandered further south to more warmer and fertile farmable lands, would the Vikings have realised what they discovered, and would that have changed history?
i know this comment is a year old, but we really only know about the vinland sagas because a few people decided to document it. the norwegian nobility had little to no interest in funding such an expensive endeavour, even if fertile lands were found. i suspect it likely would have jumpstarted european colonization though as such a discovery would definately spread across europe, rather than the vinland sagas barely surviving through the times and being nearly forgotten like they were in reality.
i doubt norway would even have the funds or manpower to colonize the really fertile lands of america and canada as it would have increased travel by 1 or 2 thousand km, and the natives would have certainly fought back.
@@thecakecakecake8198 Even if they did theyd only hold it long enough for the more powerful nations to seize them.
Very good work
Greenland fascinates me too! There was a touring museum exhibit that came to Denver years ago called "Vikings, The North Atlantic Saga". The companion book is fabulous and it has a wonderful section on Greenland. Years later I read Jean Smiley's book "The Greenlanders" and at the end she talks about the people who were real and the evidence for parts of her story. I turned to the exhibit book, and there it was. Now I really want to go there someday. I would also like to go to Iceland, having read all the sagas but also because I am a geology geek along with being a history geek and Iceland is the ultimate for land creation and glaciers.
It was we Norwegians who settled Iceland and Greenland, founding the first Ielandic city and current capitol of Reykjavik. Both Eirkr Raudi and Leifr Eiriksson were Norwegians.
@@Onnarashi Yes, I know. I am part Norwegian myself.
You should totally do a video on the cossacks. They have peaked my interest for quite some time.
piqued* your interest. It's weird, I know, but that's the actual spelling of the word for that phrase.
I don't discredit what you're saying but it only takes common sense to tell that the people that built the tallest pyramid in the world weren't as primitive as you make out, in fact they may have been behind in some ways but most definitely further ahead spiritually
Of course there is some evidence that the voyages to Vinland and beyond never stopped, that the Sinclair Clan from Scotland (originally Norse) continued to make crossings into the 14th century, especially for timber, furs and ivory. However, when the plague hit Europe, the demand for these things plummeted, as did the manpower required for such journeys and it took a couple of centuries for Europe's demand level to rise again. By then, as you mentioned, the technological advantage had expanded massively from the Middle Ages...
Because the Native Americans( Skraelings as the vikings called them) were VERY territorial and fought with them regularly. Truces were sometimes struck where the vikings and natives would trade but vikings were forbidden