I bought the 2017 ZL1 w/ the 10-speed (first model of this generation) new, when it came out. It also had the 50th Anniversary badging as well. Truly an awesome, spectacular all-around sports car. It was loaded with nearly every option. I have since sold it, but enjoyed every mile I drove it. What an amazing machine...
As someone who had an SS for a few years, I can't imagine trying to keep this car under control on public streets. The SS was actually fighting me to stay anywhere near the speed limits as it just wanted to GO. I know this model is on a whole 'nother level from that one. To really push this car, a private track needs to be in the equation somewhere.
Love my 20 ZL1, cross country trips, most of the big name drivers roads here in the US, plus a bunch of track time, handles everything no sweat and can really do everything. Almost traded for an M3CX but couldn’t bring myself to let it go, it’s just too much fun and sounds so good.
@@opred3394 yes if you can find one that’s been taken care of properly. I drive mine hard but I also spend the $$$ and take the time to make sure it’ll survive. In the Chevy family it’s better than the C7 used for used because you’re not constantly worried about overheating.
Curly/Kurly knocked his ZL1 Build out of the park. Yeah if you want a sunroof on the ZL1 1LE you can't get the Aero Kit, which should be an option. Come on Chevy. Some people like me have to have a Sunroof/open air experience with some sunlight rather than just a dark interior. Great Job😀👍👍👍
Why would you want to add weight to a 1LE? It's roughly 60 lbs less than the standard ZL1. That's the logic behind the no sunroof option for the ZL1 1LE....
@@Mac7504-OG it's would be just for fun and the looks not for the all out best track time regardless of the weight penalty. As I said it should be an option from Chevy for the people who want the convenience of a sunroof and the bad arse look of the 1LE Aero Package
@@ZL1Curly You're welcome. dude did you get the PDR? Also I was wondering are you going to upgrade the Alacantara above the Glovebox for Carbon Fiber. Again Great Job
The rear seats are not meant to actually be sat it.. they are only there for insurance purposes. If it's a four seater it gets better rates than a 2 seater so more people can afford to drive it and GM can sell more of them. They were never made to be useful for passenger purposes. If you want room for passengers buy a charger, or challenger.
This hasn't been true for 50 years or more. I'm not an actuary, you aren't either, but my understanding is that rates are based on zip code, age, and vehicle. Vehicle doesn't care if it's 2 or 4 doors, it cares how many crashes and payouts that particular vehicle has been involved with. The number of seats has zero actuarial value
As the guy above said, if this was ever true, it isn't anymore. A similarly priced or spec'd corvette will be the same price or cheaper to insure because of the older demographic that most often drives them, regardless of the number of seats.
Had a 15 ZL1 but traded it for an 18 ZL1. As in the video, what’s not to love. I don’t have kids so backseat access isn’t a concern. Visibility and trunk access are a fair complaint but……… It’s difficult to not get a 23 but with 7K miles I just can’t do it. Got a new 6.2 Silverado LTZ instead (for the wife).
Ive driven the dark 🐴 horse multiple times butter 🧈 smooth shifting from the tremec transmission 💯. For the sticker price. It wouldn't enter my mind having it in my name❗I have mixed feelings about the charger. Either way I wouldnt regret, having it. Except it being one of the top car's on the theft list❗The Camaro will be my choice. Of course with a manual❗❗
For my daily commuter, I’ll take my adaptive suspension and sunroof over the bumpy ride of the 1LE, no doubt the 1LE is a superior car, just didn’t make sense for me being my daily driver which I will almost never track. Also, the exterior Aero that I have doesn’t even equate to half the cost of the $7500 1LE Package!
Love your channel. But noticed that you now tend to look at the side camera while recording POV… not only that made your POV recording moving around too much but also the side camera seems to distract and take away your attention on the road for safety. Just a friendly opinion.
5:07 oh boy my grandpa has a 2012 base camero and that Is the cheapest interior I have ever seen. no leather or injection molding to be found just all hard plastic with cloth seats. they did slightly better in this car but for the price your paying for one of these that's still not a good interior
While I think we can all understand the black wing and the M5 competition are very fast, they are still family sedans versus somebody who wants to own a sports car
I'm 20, the only experience i have with fast cars is gran turismo lol, since i have never driven anything above 15k, i want to get myself a zl1, do y'all think is too much to start with, or i can pull it off if i take it easy at the beginning and learn with time
Man I love my 1990 Camaro 3rd Generation F body Rally Sport HP is just 175 after seein these and knowin how much HP it push I might have to get rid of ma modified 07 Monte Carlo SS but I wouldn’t get as much I would get for ma Camaro tho cuz that’s what everybody keep askin me yo bro how much are u sellin that lol
IMO, absolutely ZERO point in doing upshifts yourself if you are only looking for straightline speed. They will 100% be slower every single time versus the 10-speed doing it. The 10-speed basically does staged upshifts. If it knows your WOT and near redline it will pre-engaging the next gear allowing for shifts quicker than a PDK!
By having the Corsa cold air intake. Makes a difference. This is the angriest 😠 I've heard from the ZL1 supercharger whine❗Which I don't like. I'm used to hearing the aggresive twin turbo sound from Camaro's of the past.
Miles, now you have to find a standard ZL1 (non-1LE) with a *manual* for a truly fair comparison. Now forgive me for saying this and with all due respect to Curly, but the fact that someone would actually consider a car like this Camaro ZL1 with an automatic is sacrilege IMHO. However, personal preference aside, I can and do understand why someone may choose the 10-speed auto over the 6-speed manual. To each their own. Whenever there is the option of a manual transmission in a muscle, sports, super or hypercar. Then the choice is (should be) obvious with very few exceptions to the rule. [Raises an eyebrow and glares intensely towards BMW M cars. If you know - you know.] As far as competitors. Well that is a bit of a dilemma. Are we basing it off of price, platform, category, drivetrain layout or perhaps the philosophy of use? There is a lot of overlap in that Venn diagram. Price is obvious with the contenders you have already mentioned. All of which are at or below the cost of a standard ZL1. However, the platform is interchangeable with the Cadillac CT4-V _and_ CT5-V Blackwing's. The 4VB is obviously the more affordable version with a V6. Whereas the 5VB is the _direct_ successor to the ZL1. Of course, both of those models are still available with a glorious manual transmission. Meanwhile, the drivetrain layout is similar to that of the Jaguar F-Type (you may remember me referring to it as the "Gentleman's GT" car) and the Mercedes AMG GT. Both of whom being a front engine RWD V8. Albeit, the cost of these two models is significantly higher than all of the aforementioned options. Categorically speaking, they are all similar to each other which is where you would factor-in the other parameters such as pricing and philosophy of use. You get my point. Nevertheless, I still thoroughly enjoyed this review, Miles! I hope to see a final review of the standard ZL1 with a six speed manual in the foreseeable future. As always... Stay classy my friend. [Side note - For those unfamiliar and to avoid any further confusion, all that Carbon Fiber trim throughout the interior is _not_ stock from the factory. Everything you see in Carbon Fiber is aftermarket. That should be a notable distinction.]
Ehhhhh, if you wan the 1LE look then get a 1LE. I get the idea of having the more daily drivable regular ZL1. But it's like taking a Z06 vette and trying to make it look like a ZR1. Just not the same.
I'm not a manual guy so im not gonna ask why he didnt get a manual. But i am gonna ask why he got the car without the package only to pay extra anyway to add it himself aftermarket? Makes no sense lol
For my daily commuter, I’ll take my adaptive suspension and sunroof over the bumpy ride of the 1LE, no doubt the 1LE is a superior car, just didn’t make sense for me being my daily driver which I will almost never track. Also, the exterior Aero that I have doesn’t even equate to half the cost of the $7500 1LE Package!
Probably didn’t save much money by the time he paid for the spoiler, splitter and dive planes. Can’t change the suspension, though. Of course, Chevy didn’t build many 1LE’s for 2023, and even fewer in 2024.
I bought the 2017 ZL1 w/ the 10-speed (first model of this generation) new, when it came out. It also had the 50th Anniversary badging as well. Truly an awesome, spectacular all-around sports car. It was loaded with nearly every option. I have since sold it, but enjoyed every mile I drove it. What an amazing machine...
I bet the handling blew your socks off. I’ve taken turns in mine at highway speeds and no tire squeal. The chassis and suspension are amazingly tuned
Зачем там 10 передач?) Бред!
Why did you sell it tho
prolly got tired of paying an extra car payment in gas. why i dropped my stingray@@wtbA29
@@tomcray7907🤦🏻♂️
Thank you again Miles for such a fun and unique opportunity. Glad you enjoyed the car!
Where did you get canards,rear spoiler, and carbon fiber interior pieces?
As someone who had an SS for a few years, I can't imagine trying to keep this car under control on public streets. The SS was actually fighting me to stay anywhere near the speed limits as it just wanted to GO. I know this model is on a whole 'nother level from that one. To really push this car, a private track needs to be in the equation somewhere.
😂so tru
So we all gonna ignore the bee chilling on his shoulder in the back seat?? hahaha🐝
That's his friend
Probably a Super Bee
Don’t even know what he’s complaining about 😑 he looks very fine in the backseat 🥲
It’s bumble bee 😏
Love my 20 ZL1, cross country trips, most of the big name drivers roads here in the US, plus a bunch of track time, handles everything no sweat and can really do everything. Almost traded for an M3CX but couldn’t bring myself to let it go, it’s just too much fun and sounds so good.
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Is it worth buying a used one?
@@opred3394 yes if you can find one that’s been taken care of properly. I drive mine hard but I also spend the $$$ and take the time to make sure it’ll survive. In the Chevy family it’s better than the C7 used for used because you’re not constantly worried about overheating.
@@Triptisim Alr ty
This is essentially what Chevy did with the Collectors Edition / Panther. ZL1 1LE appearance, but regular ZL1 mechanicals.
That supercharger 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Curly/Kurly knocked his ZL1 Build out of the park. Yeah if you want a sunroof on the ZL1 1LE you can't get the Aero Kit, which should be an option. Come on Chevy. Some people like me have to have a Sunroof/open air experience with some sunlight rather than just a dark interior. Great Job😀👍👍👍
I really appreciate this, thanks!!
Why would you want to add weight to a 1LE? It's roughly 60 lbs less than the standard ZL1. That's the logic behind the no sunroof option for the ZL1 1LE....
@@Mac7504-OG it's would be just for fun and the looks not for the all out best track time regardless of the weight penalty. As I said it should be an option from Chevy for the people who want the convenience of a sunroof and the bad arse look of the 1LE Aero Package
@@ZL1Curly You're welcome. dude did you get the PDR? Also I was wondering are you going to upgrade the Alacantara above the Glovebox for Carbon Fiber. Again Great Job
@@silversleeper484I did also get the PDR, I might consider the carbon fiber interior panel, but I’m also enjoying the alcantara!
The rear seats are not meant to actually be sat it.. they are only there for insurance purposes. If it's a four seater it gets better rates than a 2 seater so more people can afford to drive it and GM can sell more of them. They were never made to be useful for passenger purposes. If you want room for passengers buy a charger, or challenger.
This hasn't been true for 50 years or more. I'm not an actuary, you aren't either, but my understanding is that rates are based on zip code, age, and vehicle. Vehicle doesn't care if it's 2 or 4 doors, it cares how many crashes and payouts that particular vehicle has been involved with. The number of seats has zero actuarial value
Or better yet, a Blackwing.
As the guy above said, if this was ever true, it isn't anymore. A similarly priced or spec'd corvette will be the same price or cheaper to insure because of the older demographic that most often drives them, regardless of the number of seats.
Great video review and no distracting music. Excellent!
Camaro is one of the most beautiful cars in the world. ❤
Fr dude
I love this car
But my dream car is the audi r8 i love this car i love it so much bro
Oh wait i guess your a girl sorry i thought that you are a guy😅💔
I didn’t notice your profile photo at first
Had a 15 ZL1 but traded it for an 18 ZL1. As in the video, what’s not to love. I don’t have kids so backseat access isn’t a concern. Visibility and trunk access are a fair complaint but……… It’s difficult to not get a 23 but with 7K miles I just can’t do it. Got a new 6.2 Silverado LTZ instead (for the wife).
We all gonna ignore his smile? 😂 so crazy, good content!
Prefer standard Zl1 look unless you are tracking it.
I love miles’ laughs on accelerations 😂
I’ll have this car one day 🎉
I think your blackwing is mad at the beginning of the drive 😂😂
The wheels on this one with the look of the more track focused package mods look so much better 😍
I'm so tempted to trade in my stingray one of these beast
Can’t understand why you would want this Beauty to look like a 1LE. This car is WAY better all around!
Beauty Camaro my dream car
That blue clean 🙌
Ive driven the dark 🐴 horse multiple times butter 🧈 smooth shifting from the tremec transmission 💯. For the sticker price. It wouldn't enter my mind having it in my name❗I have mixed feelings about the charger. Either way I wouldnt regret, having it. Except it being one of the top car's on the theft list❗The Camaro will be my choice. Of course with a manual❗❗
gonna supercharge my 2023 3LT V6 RS, 10 Speed, with the NPP quad valve exhaust.
baby ZL1
love my shock zl1 a10. it has great refinement. car can be a nice rider to a monster with just a few adjustments.
if that CF OEM? i want to get that.
13:02 What is the fuel consumption per 100 with such driving?
With all the money the owner has spent on adding 1LE mods, should have just gotten that 1LE to start with.
For my daily commuter, I’ll take my adaptive suspension and sunroof over the bumpy ride of the 1LE, no doubt the 1LE is a superior car, just didn’t make sense for me being my daily driver which I will almost never track. Also, the exterior Aero that I have doesn’t even equate to half the cost of the $7500 1LE Package!
@@ZL1Curly gotcha, that makes sense. I didn't realize the 1LE had fixed dampers as well. Not many people daily their ZL1 I'd wager, I commend you 🙌
@@ZL1CurlyI have the 1LEnow but I had a “standard” Zl1 if you can even call it that. I totally love what you did. The mag ride is just lovable
@@ZL1Curlywhere and how did you install the parts?
@@thuggerjackson5986wing was pretty easy, took care of that with a buddy, 1LE front end had professionally installed by AutoAddictUSA.
How does the c7 z07 I own have room for 4 golf bags and this isn’t wide enough to handle one without the seats laid down? I own a 2018 z07 corvette.
Love your channel. But noticed that you now tend to look at the side camera while recording POV… not only that made your POV recording moving around too much but also the side camera seems to distract and take away your attention on the road for safety. Just a friendly opinion.
This is my dream vehicle but I want the manual transmission version.
FIRSTTTTT! WE LOVE THIS BEAUT!
love your videos but pls make a video about the new sonata
Thinking about selling my 2020 ZLE for the M4 . The ride quality in the 1LE is tough to deal with
We're riding with ya.
5:07 oh boy my grandpa has a 2012 base camero and that Is the cheapest interior I have ever seen. no leather or injection molding to be found just all hard plastic with cloth seats. they did slightly better in this car but for the price your paying for one of these that's still not a good interior
Terrible by GM
How else you expect to get nuts performance for so cheap
Lovely car but why didn't this man invest in headers and a tune instead of making it look like a higher trim?
Doesn’t need to be faster haha, love the way the car looks but 650HP is plenty for me for now 😊
fn giggle machine. love em.
While I think we can all understand the black wing and the M5 competition are very fast, they are still family sedans versus somebody who wants to own a sports car
You should try the Cadillac XT4 2023 You’ll love it !
So this or CT5 Blackwing? similar engine similar size and weight. one has better visibility and a real trunk and one sounds and maybe handle better.
I'm 20, the only experience i have with fast cars is gran turismo lol, since i have never driven anything above 15k, i want to get myself a zl1, do y'all think is too much to start with, or i can pull it off if i take it easy at the beginning and learn with time
So nice GM still makes them today!
Nope. The final Chevy Camaro unit rolled off the assembly line on December 14 th, 2023
Can't be... @@whereisthedollar
He's right, unfortunately they have discontinued the camaro. The last models that came off any assembly line was the garage 56 zl1
Definetely ZL1
the car i used to want
City 13 and hwy 21 For city little waste gas so well. I like to be V6 Better very well. City 18 and hwy 28 !! ❤Camaro lovely
The camaro I want the zl1
amazing video
Man I love my 1990 Camaro 3rd Generation F body Rally Sport HP is just 175 after seein these and knowin how much HP it push I might have to get rid of ma modified 07 Monte Carlo SS but I wouldn’t get as much I would get for ma Camaro tho cuz that’s what everybody keep askin me yo bro how much are u sellin that lol
My dream car. But they don't sell this in my country 😢
where are you?
@@almond5892 India
IMO, absolutely ZERO point in doing upshifts yourself if you are only looking for straightline speed. They will 100% be slower every single time versus the 10-speed doing it. The 10-speed basically does staged upshifts. If it knows your WOT and near redline it will pre-engaging the next gear allowing for shifts quicker than a PDK!
I would choose borla exhaust
Sticker on the speedometer??????
Amazing review, thank you.
That’s exactly like my dad’s!!! 🤣
LOVE THE CAR BUT THE STEERING WHEEL MADE ME GO ANOTHER DIRECTION AND GET A M4, WHY WOULD THEY NOT GIVE A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR MATERIAL
10 передач для 60 миль в час, не слишком ли много?)
I like the non 1le better.
Why does ford an Chevy use a 10 spd an dodge don’t ? An would it help them if they did
Ford and chevy both worked in developing that transmission.
By having the Corsa cold air intake. Makes a difference. This is the angriest 😠 I've heard from the ZL1 supercharger whine❗Which I don't like. I'm used to hearing the aggresive twin turbo sound from Camaro's of the past.
What Camaro came with Twin Turbos?
@@DomoGenisis976 Camaro's, did 🚫 come with Turbos. I said I like the aggressive sound.
@@CreasyEQ No factory Camaro came with twin turbos.
@@DomoGenisis976 I didn't say they did
Youre an id1ot, Camaros have never had twin turbos nor did they ever sound like turbos.
Miles, now you have to find a standard ZL1 (non-1LE) with a *manual* for a truly fair comparison.
Now forgive me for saying this and with all due respect to Curly, but the fact that someone would actually consider a car like this Camaro ZL1 with an automatic is sacrilege IMHO. However, personal preference aside, I can and do understand why someone may choose the 10-speed auto over the 6-speed manual. To each their own.
Whenever there is the option of a manual transmission in a muscle, sports, super or hypercar. Then the choice is (should be) obvious with very few exceptions to the rule. [Raises an eyebrow and glares intensely towards BMW M cars. If you know - you know.]
As far as competitors. Well that is a bit of a dilemma. Are we basing it off of price, platform, category, drivetrain layout or perhaps the philosophy of use? There is a lot of overlap in that Venn diagram.
Price is obvious with the contenders you have already mentioned. All of which are at or below the cost of a standard ZL1.
However, the platform is interchangeable with the Cadillac CT4-V _and_ CT5-V Blackwing's. The 4VB is obviously the more affordable version with a V6. Whereas the 5VB is the _direct_ successor to the ZL1. Of course, both of those models are still available with a glorious manual transmission.
Meanwhile, the drivetrain layout is similar to that of the Jaguar F-Type (you may remember me referring to it as the "Gentleman's GT" car) and the Mercedes AMG GT. Both of whom being a front engine RWD V8. Albeit, the cost of these two models is significantly higher than all of the aforementioned options.
Categorically speaking, they are all similar to each other which is where you would factor-in the other parameters such as pricing and philosophy of use. You get my point.
Nevertheless, I still thoroughly enjoyed this review, Miles! I hope to see a final review of the standard ZL1 with a six speed manual in the foreseeable future.
As always...
Stay classy my friend.
[Side note - For those unfamiliar and to avoid any further confusion, all that Carbon Fiber trim throughout the interior is _not_ stock from the factory. Everything you see in Carbon Fiber is aftermarket. That should be a notable distinction.]
Regardless of fun factor, in pure performance, an automatic will always be superior to the manual.
Shove your corsa exhaust pal
He should have just got the 1LE
Second I Want One !!!
Ehhhhh, if you wan the 1LE look then get a 1LE. I get the idea of having the more daily drivable regular ZL1. But it's like taking a Z06 vette and trying to make it look like a ZR1. Just not the same.
Def not like making the Z06 look like a ZR1 lol, two totallyyyy different powertrains.
CAMARO ❤❤🤍🤍💙💙
I'm not a manual guy so im not gonna ask why he didnt get a manual. But i am gonna ask why he got the car without the package only to pay extra anyway to add it himself aftermarket? Makes no sense lol
For my daily commuter, I’ll take my adaptive suspension and sunroof over the bumpy ride of the 1LE, no doubt the 1LE is a superior car, just didn’t make sense for me being my daily driver which I will almost never track. Also, the exterior Aero that I have doesn’t even equate to half the cost of the $7500 1LE Package!
@@ZL1Curly makes sense now.
@@ZL1Curlydo you have any exhaust modifications done?
Soon 🤌
Leave the brakes silver. Red would be fugly
Probably didn’t save much money by the time he paid for the spoiler, splitter and dive planes. Can’t change the suspension, though.
Of course, Chevy didn’t build many 1LE’s for 2023, and even fewer in 2024.
Paid about a bit less than half of the $8,000 1LE Package!
3.5 is the 0 to 60 time not 3.8
Is that true that they want to stop producing camro's?
Yes, it’s true. They’re done producing camaros😂
That’s the worst 2023 interior out there. Its laid out like a 2011 model.
But a 2011 doesn’t have ambient lighting and cooler seats
Dodge
pls make a night video on this
Like number 352 love ur work ❤
Es faster como la ram trx or
You see I'm the crazy dumb idiot that wants a convertible. Head space? Who cares when I'm driving top is DOWN. Don't like it, walk.
❤❤❤❤спасибо
Salam alaikum dear friend 🙏 MashAllah great 👍👍 my dear friend 🙏❤️🌺🙏🤲 from Pakistan 🇵🇰
The fake carbon fiber and the cheap plastic makes it look so bad and cheap😮
Third Baby
You want an award?
Is it full exhaust ? Or axle back ?