Rick Perry: The conservative case for psychedelic medicine
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The former Texas governor on helping veterans with PTSD, increasing legal immigration, and the illegal drug he'd most like to try
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In June, I traveled to Denver with Zach Weismueller to cover the Psychedelic Science 2023 conference, which was organized by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), a group that has been working to gain Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval of MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD and related ailments since the late 1980s. That approval is likely to come in the next year.
We produced a 30-minute documentary about what is rightly called today's "psychedelic renaissance," or a new flourishing of substances and subcultures that mostly went underground at the end of the 1960s but are now popping up everywhere: in medical research, therapeutic settings, the arts, the workplace, you name it. Watch the documentary here.
The most surprising speaker at the conference was Rick Perry, the former Texas governor and Trump administration energy secretary. What in tarnation was a conservative Republican doing on the stage, extolling the virtues of drugs long associated with hippies and '60s counterculture?
I sat down with Perry to learn why he believes psychedelics should be legal medicine for veterans and others suffering from PTSD, how to allow more immigrants to come to America lawfully, and why if he were ever to take a psychedelic drug it would be Ibogaine, a notoriously powerful substance made from the bark of an African tree.
Photo Credits: Riccardo Savi/Sipa USA/Newscom; Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/Newscom; Bob Daemmrich/ZUMAPRESS/Newscom; David Peinado/ZUMA Press/Newscom; Kgjerstad, CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons; Marco Schmidt, CC-BY-SA-2.5, via Wikimedia Commons
Music Credits: "The Ride" by Itamar Doari via Artlist
Politicians appear dramatically more reasonable and thoughtful when they retire.
Yeah, it’s almost like you have to leave your brain and/or soul at the front desk like a credit card or your driver’s license when you enter public office in this country.
You do not win democratic elections with nuance
They’re no longer beholden to special interests at that point
LOL so true.
US politics is like professional wrestling. When you're in DC, you got to keep up the kayfabe.
Having seen Rick Perry run against Ron Paul in 2012, and just...in general...this is a different Rick Perry. That takes a lot for me to say, but he seems so...calm and pensive. Still politicking with names and stuff but, that's a trait that gets you elected. I'm not sure I liked Nick putting him on the spot about having used psychedelics, because this is rather nascent...but if this Rick Perry hasn't done mushrooms I'm fucking Miles Davis, there's no goddamn way he changed this much. Or maybe there is, wtf do I know.
See if you can find the 60 minutes piece on veterans doing private security for the cannabis farms in Colorado right after it went legal in that state. I did not have to be a user in order to understand the positive impact it was having for these veterans who were basically protecting something they had a vested interest in its survival. This single story changed my opinion on nationwide cannabis legalization. I think my point is that you can recognize the impact, positive or negative of something without having actually experienced it. Then again, you are welcome to go try fentanyl, heroin, and tranq to ultimately experience what it is like to live homeless on the streets of any metropolitan city...or you can just see that that is the result and believe it to be true.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
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Got psychedelics
Loved this. I battle from depression, anxiety & C-PTSD, I’ve heard shrooms cured depression. Wish doctors were more open to natural medicines over big pharma but we know why
@@MarcoGuiterrez-bo7hg where to search is it IG?
One of my best experience in my life was doing lsd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and I got an A in the college class of comparative religion
Biases aside, Mr. Perry seems to be the type that speaks from his core and is intellectually humble enough to point you elsewhere for information when he thinks that source is better.
He still didn't discuss the issue of psychedelics flipping red states blue.
26 years in Texas and this is the first time I've seen this man as a fellow human being. I'll listen to what he has to say now.
If you think that a person isn't in charge of their consciousness, then you aren't a conservative.
Tell that to Laura Stack. A small snippet from her article about what legalizing pot did to Colorado. "My son, Johnny, was 14 at that time. Five years later, he died by suicide after becoming psychotic from ‘dabbing’ HiTHCpot (no other drugs in his system). Johnny had been diagnosed with “THC abuse - severe” by a psychiatric hospital." Speaking of which, does Colorado mean nothing to you?
@sirblackreeds - I can certainly see your point. But what you wrote is basied on emotion and bias. I feel so sorry that you lost your son. Suicide is such a difficult thing to deal with that most of us know nothing about. No system will ever be perfect. And some people will always get the short stick. But the simple fact is, your son's suicide was going to happen if pot were illegal in Colorado. He had a VERY addictive personality and he was going to smoke pot regardless. There is nothing the state could have done and there is nothing YOU could have done to stop it. You need to stop blaming others, including yourself for his death. I am also HIGHLY suspect of their diagnosis. Just because pot was the only drug in his system at the time of his death doesn't mean that is what precipitated it or that was the only drug he used. My brother has smoked weed all his life. Talking to him about it recently I learned that if he has too much, he gets very paranoid, to include heart palpitations. So he microdoses. He said it still relieves a tremendous amount of inflamation and pain in his body. I have taken large doses of ibuprofen for inflamation my entire life as that seems to work for me. And in March I quit taking hydrocodone I had been on for 12 years not because the pain was gone (other than inflamation) but because my pain was much worse. I knew that if I were to go up on the doses, I would suffer from horrible side effects. For example, the difference between pain relif and horrible, inceasent itching was less than 1 pill at the smallest dose. So I could not go up on the dose. I quit on my own but under my doctors care. When I explained what I wanted to do and why, I got no hesistation from her at all. And I go to the V.A. for just about everything. I truly hope your son is at peace now. I just hope that one day you will be able to live in peace as well.
@@SirBlackReeds She is a woman with issues, her offspring had issues and her ego wouldn't let her blame herself.
*Every conservative wants to meet GOD. This is a quick way to take a peak.*
"There should be something called the vegetable drug act, which simply states 'no plant is illegal.' Period, that's it!"
--Terence McKenna
It shouldn't have ever been illegal in the first place, but better than going in the opposite direction.
*Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's 90% of Republican kids I know where into at least 3 to 4 drugs both soft and hard.*
Can he run for the Rep nomination pls and thank you
I would prefer that he runs against John Cornyn in the Senate primary tbh. More effective that way
That would be an excellent choice actually!@@robertsmalls3513
Mr. Rick every dog has his day; you have a winner of a career promoting natures remedies for sick souls and spirits in conjunction with Faith to help heal our fellow men and women damaged for a variety of psychological/Physical traumas.
Will psychedelics help prevent the US military crossing US borders and causing real PTSD for innocent victims?
I may not agree with Everything Perry said while he was a politician but I rather have him as Governor of Texas over Abbott
great video. appreciated hearing Perry speak at the Conference. these medicines can and do help vets! and I support that immigration stance. appreciate Perry's level-headedness here.
OMG, I am so ecstatic to Perry be on the side of this subject. Perry 2028. Where do I donate?
Am I going to do research and find out he is getting paid by some lobbyists?
Oo
Speak up Rick FFS, you are on mick!
The conservative case for psychedelics: freedom.
The progressive case for psychedelics: freedom.
The libertarian case for psychedelics: freedom.
ALL THE RIGHTS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE!
Glad to see them taking up a good cause, but I can't help but think that if psychedelics didn't help tHe tRoOpS that no conservative would give a shit about it.
This is good place for money to go to! 😅
Rick Perry passes the vibe check ✅
On this subject, he seems thoughtful and practical. My intuition is that ibogaine might have have already been in the picture. If a trip to Mexico to legally use a substance that is already known to be safe and effective, was the only thing standing in the way of getting the treatment, I'm not sure why he would wait till age 80+ to use it.
i'm not with the people above, there's research being done in a stuff better than ibg in brazil, can't name it, but starts with calix and the other part is the 4 start letters from the white flour compound.
I think scientist should be allowed to research whatever substance they want. Maybe there would have to be a special government lab that should be the only place in the country that's allowed to produce the drugs for the research studies. But other than that, I say let the IRBs, (institutional review boards,) at the universities and hospitals handle it, as far as the safety and ethics are concerned. They already do all kinds of other human research that doesn't involve drugs, but nonetheless could still be dangerous or unethical if it wasn't done right. But they've made a lot of reforms and they're doing fine. The Milgrim experiment days are over.
I would't trust them with anything after this:
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It felt wierd watching this after i knew he was on the side of drugs when hes never done any
I heard ibogane gives horrid headaches but it does sound interesting.
I mean… this interview was pretty trippy 😂😂😂
Nice