As others have touched on, more people than ever are able to compose and produce music at home in 2024. With EW being the leader in orchestral samples, more videos like this are really needed. I know a second MIDI programming video is coming, but I urge you to make more. Just for comparison, Getgood Drums has emerged as a very prominent drum kit sample library company, and they absolutely saturate UA-cam with instructional videos; it is clear that they want to teach their users to get the most out of their products. I think EW is behind the curve in this regard, and there are simply no other YT channels I've come across that really focus in on programming MIDI for EW libraries. This particular video, in my opinion, is by far the most helpful video on the internet for this purpose - please make more.
These videos are so important, and it seems like EW is the only channel putting them out. When you didn't "grow up" with MIDI, and are coming into it this late in the game, there are so many things that are left unsaid, that it's just assumed that everyone knows. It makes it hard to learn from the beginning. And even when you look for UA-cam channels that are geared toward teaching beginners music production, those channels don't focus on things like this. EW, please keep these videos coming. We are loving them!
These videos are so important because of the complexity of the EW Hollywood orchestra. Im getting more out of this than most tutorials on UA-cam. Thanks a million.
For those who want to come back to this later: 0:00 - East West Intro + Listening to the piece 0:59 - Video Intro with Host 1:44 - Legato and Sustains (using legato strings) 5:02 - When to use Sustains (using context to make a choice, e.g Brass) 7:02 - Notating the Brass Line 7:51 - Same ideas applied to woodwinds 9:20 - Working with legato delay (9:45 for manual workaround by dragging notes, 10:27 for using the negative delay inside of the DAW) 11:45 - Velocity and Dynamics 12:53 - Velocity Sensitive Patches (13:41 - Using vel to add colour and rhythmic definition, 15:28 - Percussion) 17:42 - Using CC1 and CC11 with velocity-sensitive patches 18:23 - Velocity with Brass 19:35 - CC1 and CC11
I swear, these videos are my favorite things on UA-cam. All your track breakdowns looks these and what you did with the fantasy videos are so helpful, I learn so much, and inspired me to buy hollywood orch, and fantasy orch. And loved it
Ryan, this is the best composition content on UA-cam, hands down. Nothing else comes close. Absolutely superb and relevant lessons that I am able to immediately apply to my composition work. Thanks so very much for all that you do; it does make a difference.
Christ almighty, these sound great. I’ve been on the market and been looking into Spitfire, OT, and all the usuals and then accident stumbled across this in my feed. Buying EW lol
" your CC1 & or CC11 " do needs to look like a roller-coster ... all is said ... i often forget this & also that, the light version of a lot of patches both controlling these CC's at once Great vid Mr Thomas. Thanks.
Despite being pretty fundamental I still gleened some important stuff here, particularly with respect to velocity dynamics. I realize I've probably been too heavy handed in general, but especially with percussion. Definitely going to try the philosophy of going light, then raising it up to the right temperature.
wow! I have so much to learn on how to use these wonderful instruments from East West? thank goodness I have a subscription as this is gonna take me a long time to get the full benefit of using these properly!
Thanks Ryan. Great tutorial! I just find the series numbering a bit confusing: EW Academy 3: Orchestration Part 1 makes you think there is a Part 2, and EW Academy 4: Orchestration Part 2 makes you think you missed Part 1 !!
Hey this is a really great explanation can we get the midi for this demo to try ? Because when we get the midi it will be more good for us to learn so if you guys can release the midi for this demo it will be so great !
This has been asked many times throughout the years and as far as I know they won't do it, as opposed to say VSL which offers full project files with almost every new release.
By the way, when you say "trigger sustain" at 6:33, how do you do that? I thought that was pre-selected from the browser, either a Long or a Legato patch! Perhaps I am a bit confused. Thanks.
Interesting way to deal with latency. My biggest problem in producing a song was the latency I got from the guitar solos or live performances, and moving the track to compensate is sometimes needed. Basically, it is an industry-wide problem, and I bet it gets worked out in time. For instance, I got a Code-50 Marshall Amp that plugs in via usb to the Daw, and my guitar solos are now as in tempo as possible, much better than the old usb interface.
I am fine tuning the timings with minor edits where it really needs to be better with Studio One. Or I set up a minus delay depending on the interface or the instrument on the track itself and now it is great then. But yeah it is still weird for me how in 2024 we have to make this many manual steps to ensure the least latency. (despite how many real time technologies we have with near 0 latencies)
For legato delay compensation: when moving midi notes, you said not to move the first note in the series because it would make it arrive too early. How do you avoid the same problem when using the negative track delay method?
This is just a random question that i meam to ask support or what not..but will there ever be a revised Word Builder one day? I woild think with thr advent of AI tech making some killer aounding realistic voices that are articulate, I hope to see these improvements in anotherwise Suite of the most beautiful sounding soundware on the market
So many little details the manual doesn't talk about and nobody else talks about in any other video. I've been using sus and legato as literal how you would think. Any new bow is sustain and legato would connect the notes. So 1e&a.... As, do re mi fa, would be programmed sus, leg, leg, leg, never overlapping any notes. But see, these are the little details that nobody talks about nobody explains how to actually program all these midi instruments to achieve the sound they're supposed to. Even reading the manual this is what I came up because overlapping never seemed to make a difference in sound. I've been looking for this kind of information for over a year now.
There are a number of videos about negative track delay available (for example - ua-cam.com/video/XCIKw0eBnCk/v-deo.html ) which does need to get done on a per-articulation basis, though we recommend for the most realism to play in parts like a real instrumental performance rather than having fully quantized parts.
I just bought the composer cloud and installed Hollywood Strings 2 and Hollywood Solo Violin. Is there a reason why those libraries are so low in volume? Is this normal?
Both of those libraries rely on Midi CC data to set the dynamics - I'd check to make sure you don't have CC1/Modulation or CC11/Expression low in your Midi Controller sends
What DAW are you using? do you get the same low output when clicking in the Opus keyboard with your mouse, or specifically from the midi data/setup in the project? Does the standalone do the same?
As others have touched on, more people than ever are able to compose and produce music at home in 2024. With EW being the leader in orchestral samples, more videos like this are really needed. I know a second MIDI programming video is coming, but I urge you to make more. Just for comparison, Getgood Drums has emerged as a very prominent drum kit sample library company, and they absolutely saturate UA-cam with instructional videos; it is clear that they want to teach their users to get the most out of their products. I think EW is behind the curve in this regard, and there are simply no other YT channels I've come across that really focus in on programming MIDI for EW libraries. This particular video, in my opinion, is by far the most helpful video on the internet for this purpose - please make more.
Excellent video!
These videos are so important, and it seems like EW is the only channel putting them out. When you didn't "grow up" with MIDI, and are coming into it this late in the game, there are so many things that are left unsaid, that it's just assumed that everyone knows. It makes it hard to learn from the beginning. And even when you look for UA-cam channels that are geared toward teaching beginners music production, those channels don't focus on things like this. EW, please keep these videos coming. We are loving them!
These videos are so important because of the complexity of the EW Hollywood orchestra. Im getting more out of this than most tutorials on UA-cam. Thanks a million.
For those who want to come back to this later:
0:00 - East West Intro + Listening to the piece
0:59 - Video Intro with Host
1:44 - Legato and Sustains (using legato strings)
5:02 - When to use Sustains (using context to make a choice, e.g Brass)
7:02 - Notating the Brass Line
7:51 - Same ideas applied to woodwinds
9:20 - Working with legato delay (9:45 for manual workaround by dragging notes, 10:27 for using the negative delay inside of the DAW)
11:45 - Velocity and Dynamics
12:53 - Velocity Sensitive Patches (13:41 - Using vel to add colour and rhythmic definition, 15:28 - Percussion)
17:42 - Using CC1 and CC11 with velocity-sensitive patches
18:23 - Velocity with Brass
19:35 - CC1 and CC11
I swear, these videos are my favorite things on UA-cam. All your track breakdowns looks these and what you did with the fantasy videos are so helpful, I learn so much, and inspired me to buy hollywood orch, and fantasy orch. And loved it
Ryan, this is the best composition content on UA-cam, hands down. Nothing else comes close. Absolutely superb and relevant lessons that I am able to immediately apply to my composition work. Thanks so very much for all that you do; it does make a difference.
Excellent Content Ryan. Thank you so much East West for providing these super helpful tips.
So helpful. Thank you.
These tutorials are Fantastically useful and informative.
Another entertaining and informative video from EW and Ryan.
Christ almighty, these sound great. I’ve been on the market and been looking into Spitfire, OT, and all the usuals and then accident stumbled across this in my feed. Buying EW lol
" your CC1 & or CC11 " do needs to look like a roller-coster ... all is said ... i often forget this & also that, the light version of a lot of patches both controlling these CC's at once Great vid Mr Thomas. Thanks.
Despite being pretty fundamental I still gleened some important stuff here, particularly with respect to velocity dynamics. I realize I've probably been too heavy handed in general, but especially with percussion. Definitely going to try the philosophy of going light, then raising it up to the right temperature.
Thank you so much for these! They're fantastic.
Fantastic walkthrough!
Fantastic video Ryan!
Superb, thnx for all the effort and knowledge when making these videos. Helps a lot 🎉🎉
Excellent and very helpful work!!
Thank you for the superb learning, love it. Cheers!
wow! I have so much to learn on how to use these wonderful instruments from East West? thank goodness I have a subscription as this is gonna take me a long time to get the full benefit of using these properly!
Thanks Ryan. Great tutorial!
I just find the series numbering a bit confusing:
EW Academy 3: Orchestration Part 1 makes you think there is a Part 2, and EW Academy 4: Orchestration Part 2 makes you think you missed Part 1 !!
Super Thanks a lot You explain it at the good rythm !! One more please
Hey this is a really great explanation can we get the midi for this demo to try ? Because when we get the midi it will be more good for us to learn so if you guys can release the midi for this demo it will be so great !
Because this demonstrates MIDI programming so if we can visiually see on our daw with the midi that will be so great !
This has been asked many times throughout the years and as far as I know they won't do it, as opposed to say VSL which offers full project files with almost every new release.
Totally agree! There’s more going in some where. I made a small chord progression using with 4 x pizz strings and I can barely hear it, if at all….
Awesome! I can’t wait to try Fantasy Orch. I’d love to see a mixing tutorial - I assume that’s coming?
Thank You So Much Sirjee 😊
Thank you!
Let's go!
Wonderful presentation - crystal clear! Thank you. Do you give private or group classes?
By the way, when you say "trigger sustain" at 6:33, how do you do that? I thought that was pre-selected from the browser, either a Long or a Legato patch! Perhaps I am a bit confused. Thanks.
Excellent!
Question: I use the Nektar LX88+ as well. How have you set it up? Which control program? Is there a mapping for EAST-WEST instruments in it?
Thank's Ryan for all this very useful advice to properly integrate the use of East West sounds...😀
incredible!😄
Essential if you're going to get the most out of Opus.
Great tutorial👍🏼🫡
Great. Thank you
THank you
Hi Ryan! Can you please do a tutorial of "pre-mixing" East-West template? Thanks
Interesting way to deal with latency. My biggest problem in producing a song was the latency I got from the guitar solos or live performances, and moving the track to compensate is sometimes needed. Basically, it is an industry-wide problem, and I bet it gets worked out in time.
For instance, I got a Code-50 Marshall Amp that plugs in via usb to the Daw, and my guitar solos are now as in tempo as possible, much better than the old usb interface.
I am fine tuning the timings with minor edits where it really needs to be better with Studio One. Or I set up a minus delay depending on the interface or the instrument on the track itself and now it is great then. But yeah it is still weird for me how in 2024 we have to make this many manual steps to ensure the least latency. (despite how many real time technologies we have with near 0 latencies)
Really enjoyed this. Who composes and orchestrates these tunes please?
Ryan Thomas does, the host of this video.
For legato delay compensation: when moving midi notes, you said not to move the first note in the series because it would make it arrive too early. How do you avoid the same problem when using the negative track delay method?
It would be nice if you could download the midi files of the music. It would be helpful if you could hear track by track how it all works.
This is just a random question that i meam to ask support or what not..but will there ever be a revised Word Builder one day? I woild think with thr advent of AI tech making some killer aounding realistic voices that are articulate, I hope to see these improvements in anotherwise Suite of the most beautiful sounding soundware on the market
Can someone tell me how I adapt the piano roll to my 49 key keyboard?
When will the products from the EastWest series be compatible with the Mac OS Sonoma system?
We're Sonoma compatible
How do you write melodies and create actual song structure? I'm new to music composition 😢
What Mac is Ryan using? Also what interface is he using?
Hi Ryan. What midi controller do you use?
He's using the Nektar Impact LX88+. I bought the 61+ a few weeks ago, and I like it.
So many little details the manual doesn't talk about and nobody else talks about in any other video. I've been using sus and legato as literal how you would think. Any new bow is sustain and legato would connect the notes. So 1e&a.... As, do re mi fa, would be programmed sus, leg, leg, leg, never overlapping any notes.
But see, these are the little details that nobody talks about nobody explains how to actually program all these midi instruments to achieve the sound they're supposed to. Even reading the manual this is what I came up because overlapping never seemed to make a difference in sound.
I've been looking for this kind of information for over a year now.
Do I have to assign cc11 to expression tho or is it already mapped?
CC11 is expression/it's already mapped.
Hey quick question on 10:40
How do I go about determining the right amount of negative delay? I imagine for each instrument it may vary?
There are a number of videos about negative track delay available (for example - ua-cam.com/video/XCIKw0eBnCk/v-deo.html ) which does need to get done on a per-articulation basis, though we recommend for the most realism to play in parts like a real instrumental performance rather than having fully quantized parts.
No se traduce al Español?
I just bought the composer cloud and installed Hollywood Strings 2 and Hollywood Solo Violin. Is there a reason why those libraries are so low in volume? Is this normal?
Both of those libraries rely on Midi CC data to set the dynamics - I'd check to make sure you don't have CC1/Modulation or CC11/Expression low in your Midi Controller sends
@@EWQLTutorials Nope, I did obviously check that out.
What DAW are you using? do you get the same low output when clicking in the Opus keyboard with your mouse, or specifically from the midi data/setup in the project? Does the standalone do the same?
Ryan makes our brain fry! Just when you think he's a good songwriter, Ryan shows you that you're not! Congratulations, these tutorials help a lot!
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