I was thinking the same thing.The joint is blowing now money is coming now here goes the jealousy.”BE WARY OF FRIENDS,THEY SOON BECOME SOOILED AND TYRANNICAL!” …….48 laws of power.Damn
Yeah because he did have show on revolt with Remy Ma. The hate for Joe is real. He said that he didn’t get paid that much from revolt. DJ Ak said Joe got 5mil from Spotify. Follow the money
I knew Hoffa was gonna be on some different shit when the bus watch got swapped out for a Rolex a few months ago. He just ran into money and is showing his ass
@@Spacesprocketz agreed. This is one situation where it's too obvious wat happened. Character is everything. Nobody is perfect but when u got Hynaken and Esso, who have yrs in the game, speaking how they speaking u know they not lying bro. Also, before they got on the show the guest list was totally different. They improved that podcast.
@@ProdbyGrimeyred Exactly!! He on his high horse right now, I guess he figures whoever is putting the bag up will bring the guests. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
Esso didn’t say allegedly on Facebook though did he? Esso literally said the first time Math said he didn’t need him for an episode he decided to do his own thing and make his own moves.
When mal and rory gone sue and take back what was so-called stolen from them...ain't that usually what you supposed to do rather than complain and use the internet for sympathy...that's hoe shyt
He ain't lol and math doing the same thing that's why he ran to Joe and had him call him on air so he could avoid the fact he owes them money from the contracts they signed. But he don't wanna talk Abt that subject, he just calls em jealous pocket watchers. See when ppl avoid the point at hand and go to insults, they're guilty 99 percent of the time.
Joe did not steal from him. He just didn't give them more money when he got a bigger deal. Same thing Jay z did to Mal's older brother Biggs and Dame Dash. When the Roca fella deal was done, Jay-Z know he would never make the Forbes list if had slit the money 3 ways. Beyonce also fired her dad so she wouldn't have to pay him no more. This game is cut throat.
ima be honest i dont think them being there makes a difference i personally thought alot of the questions the dude with the braids would ask were super corny and lame and his energy really didnt fit with the show at all.....so in my eyes its not a loss
I think the overall world expensive for this year for all the fallouts is us as black men we gotta do better with having a business and how we handle our business and understanding that it ain't everybody's business I really hate to say it but I saw it coming but it looks like they got enough leeway to bounce back so that's good
No, what the real is that he saying, "You talk like you are the star, but all you do is this". I understand that people are upset, but even thought they are all yelling, "I'm a businessman", the truth is that even though you may own a busines, that doesn't mean that you are a businessman or business woman.
@@TaleHatez_Management This alone tells you that you are biased, and here's where the proof is in the pudding, each of them has a podcast now, so let's see who's the last man standing. because I don't see you addressing Math's point that they had already breached the contract and had started their own shows prior to the Revolt offer. Many times we get together to make moves, or we support someone else's move and never state clearly what is to happen in different scenarios. We expect for us to ride the wave and when we don't get what we asked for, or we misunderstand something, we don't use our heads and reach out for clarity, we , since the internet started, go out and slam one another, and then sparks start to fly. There have been a lot of networks that switched up it's casts when different deals are done, and no one says a word. The only difference here is that because everyone is trying to come up, we feel as if we are equal. Naturally, when things change, some people will be left behind and some will travel with you. Joe Budden's podcast survived and so will Math's.
@@9thDapp these industry niggas TAP DANCE ALL DAY LONG depending on WHO ASKING THEM to TAP DANCE FOR EM 💯💯 I don't care as much you do. ALL I SEE IS EGOS from ppl in these SPACES.
None of that negates your contract. That would have been the stats to bring up when your contract expired to renegotiate a better deal. Not snake your man’s cuz you feel like you deserve more right now.
The podcast had the connections because of them. You think ppl were coming to all to a washed battle rapper? The dynamic of the show is going to be completely off with them gone.
Ive never ever once watched the podcast due to these guys. Not once have i even cared for their opinion. Wild. Just got their names now that theyre relevant to the story.
You can't say your the reason why the subscribers numbers went up because you came aboard, MEO was a great show before you and it was growing because he was giving great interviews and he was bring on people that people wanted to see and listen to, so stop it with the whole when you got on the numbers sky rocketed. Stop it This is the exact reason why Black/Women have a hard time succeeding together. MEO will continue to succeed without them 2. #TEAMHOFFA4EVER.
I wouldn't be shocked if revolt told esso that lie about the deal to break them up Ppl know what their doing by putting money in front of black ppl and its sad instead of sitting down like men and seeing were all parties went wrong but I guess nobody knows how to really COMMUNICATE
I disagree G, just gotta tell people exactly what it is & what’s going on, some will leave , some will stay but some shows the niche is conversation with & debates with others, that’s what makes it stand out
@@urbanpoliticianstv4115 I feel you...and I wanna agree with you too. But too many times, and no matter what is agreed upon prior to "blowing up"...some co-hosts seem to want to want more credit/acknowledgement ($$) seeing it all too often recently. But I definitely get your point bro!💯💪🏾 #StayOnYaPivot
This is CraZy But if you were paying attention you can notice Math started getting a little shaky (corporate/business) wit his takes on the pod a couple months back.
@@urbanpoliticianstv4115 But it saves the bullshit . Lol. People can be shady when that bag comes. Start minimizing key people who helped build the podcast from the ground. It’s the same movie just different characters. From Gillie and Wallo to JBP to now this they have the same thing in common. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@viper6782 in all seriousness esso simply ain't necessary for the show. Dude sounded kinda zesty sometimes. I would swap bigga for hynaken tho at this point. Bigga REALLY handled that Tek and steele interview poorly.
@@michaelgomez2522 I don't disagree with you at all, Biggs was bassin up for no reason, finger pointing 🤦🏽, I would make that trade also, Esso annoyed me everytime he opened his mouth. " yea my aunt lived 20 block away from there" yo Esso who cares, SHUT THE FUCK UP
Spit game to your gal not really cause she already love me. She always hugs me. We never hang out at the same place you scrubs be. Handsome smile on my face. Everyone knows Bill Cosby's. Hahajaja
Esso can be a problem, but he added vital content to the show. I think Joe Budden added his special brand of poison to the sitchiation, kinda got in Math's head, and here we are.
It's Math podcast meaning he's the boss whatever he decides to give you it's up to you take it or move on the Boss doesn't have to tell you anything on there business
black men have a hard time doing business together, and with keeping our business disputes behind closed door. 🤦🏾♂️
Case in point… all the cool blk r&b groups
So you think white ppl and other races don’t have business issues it’s not just black ppl
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You never know who you’re really dealing with until money is involved
It’s always us that break up when money comes into play
dog gone shame
I was thinking the same thing.The joint is blowing now money is coming now here goes the jealousy.”BE WARY OF FRIENDS,THEY SOON BECOME SOOILED AND TYRANNICAL!” …….48 laws of power.Damn
SPOILED
Pardon typo
NIGGAS... smdh
Hilarious how Joe laughed at this 😂 it really hit home for him. Then Joe tells on himself saying “Revolt paid him”😂😂😂😂
You caught that too lolol
Yeah because he did have show on revolt with Remy Ma. The hate for Joe is real. He said that he didn’t get paid that much from revolt. DJ Ak said Joe got 5mil from Spotify. Follow the money
Y'all reachin...he had a show on revolt called "State of the culture "... if you don't like Joe just say that
@@8macvar I thought he meant Revolt was paying him for the JBP🤷🏽♀️
The pod was never on revolt buddy, unlike Rory an Mal joe was always doing other shows that brought him the bag.
The 2 he got rit of was a major pieces on that podcast ..hope it works out with out them
na they was talking crazy aint no coming back from that...if they didn't go public, maybe they could work it out
Yep I like dem 2 on the pod, it's not gonna be the same. Some shady shit went on but I guess we will never learn smh
@@axman3128 the chemistry is crazy
Damn I lowkey like they podcast together
We was on it fasho, that Tony yayo I was stuck on lately
Prayers to all parties involved
I knew Hoffa was gonna be on some different shit when the bus watch got swapped out for a Rolex a few months ago. He just ran into money and is showing his ass
Facts
@@ProdbyGrimeyred it’s sad, then ppl wonder why we can’t never get ahead together as a unit.
@@Spacesprocketz agreed. This is one situation where it's too obvious wat happened. Character is everything. Nobody is perfect but when u got Hynaken and Esso, who have yrs in the game, speaking how they speaking u know they not lying bro. Also, before they got on the show the guest list was totally different. They improved that podcast.
@@ProdbyGrimeyred Exactly!! He on his high horse right now, I guess he figures whoever is putting the bag up will bring the guests. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
@@Spacesprocketz it's already looking bad. D.Rose interview is 🗑️🚮🚮🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🚮🚮
Swear this shit only happens in the rap realm
“I am athlete” (sports) had this happen too tho
Nah we are just more messy. Humans are dramatic
What? This happens everywhere in business!
This literally happens everywhere, we just hear about it in our circles a lot because that just so happens to be what we're tuned into.
@@jamessummers5936 exactly
Money, Egos and Plotting
Esso didn’t say allegedly on Facebook though did he? Esso literally said the first time Math said he didn’t need him for an episode he decided to do his own thing and make his own moves.
This is exactly what Kevin Hart was talking about on the pivot podcast
That makes 5 people Math has fell out with since his podcast started especially MizFit who was with Math from the streets and NYB
What exactly happened to Misfit?
Probably the best hiphop mainstream podcast ruined. What a shame. This will never be the same.
We gotta do better on how we handle our business. We do a lot of private conversations in public and that’s not the wave 🌊
*SO WHEN IS JOE GONNA PAY RORY & MAL WHAT HE STOLE FROM THEM...😒*
Whenever Mal gives back the detergent
@@ZYaKnoe249 😂😂
When mal and rory gone sue and take back what was so-called stolen from them...ain't that usually what you supposed to do rather than complain and use the internet for sympathy...that's hoe shyt
He ain't lol and math doing the same thing that's why he ran to Joe and had him call him on air so he could avoid the fact he owes them money from the contracts they signed.
But he don't wanna talk Abt that subject, he just calls em jealous pocket watchers.
See when ppl avoid the point at hand and go to insults, they're guilty 99 percent of the time.
Joe did not steal from him. He just didn't give them more money when he got a bigger deal. Same thing Jay z did to Mal's older brother Biggs and Dame Dash. When the Roca fella deal was done, Jay-Z know he would never make the Forbes list if had slit the money 3 ways. Beyonce also fired her dad so she wouldn't have to pay him no more. This game is cut throat.
Shit space ghost is gone too? Bruh these up top dudes stay fucking up the bag. This why the south say winning
Boom..I've noticed that about east coast... never united
😂 I knew they was splitting up when math upgraded from those big face ugly watches to rolex 😅😅
If those dudes think they brought so many viewers to Math Hoffa podcast why don’t just go start their own show
Dudes be to lazy
They did though
They DID! And that's part of Math's gripe, justified or not.
I kno this was going to happen when money came it to. Play Math Hoffa been changing anyway on the Podcast he been acting funny
Exactly.. all them messy questions he been askin..he all cheeky with a person like Adam 22 says alot
Build this shit by yourself.. The more people involved, the more problems
ima be honest i dont think them being there makes a difference i personally thought alot of the questions the dude with the braids would ask were super corny and lame and his energy really didnt fit with the show at all.....so in my eyes its not a loss
U blind bro
@@ProdbyGrimeyred guess you are too
I agree
He is the one who brought people to the show
Money always breaks things up.
I think the overall world expensive for this year for all the fallouts is us as black men we gotta do better with having a business and how we handle our business and understanding that it ain't everybody's business I really hate to say it but I saw it coming but it looks like they got enough leeway to bounce back so that's good
COMMUNICATION IS KEY ALWAYS😎
FAKZ. 💯
It’s not. Especially when greed and deception plays a part.
Hynaken and esso were just weekly guest on there. It's really Math's show
Math telling Sp8ce all he does is edit videos was insane as if that’s something easy and didn’t deserve paying lmfaooo
That ALONE TELLS YOU "MATH AINT VALUE THEY CONTRIBUTIONS" EGO MOVE 💯💯💯
No, what the real is that he saying, "You talk like you are the star, but all you do is this". I understand that people are upset, but even thought they are all yelling, "I'm a businessman", the truth is that even though you may own a busines, that doesn't mean that you are a businessman or business woman.
@@TaleHatez_Management This alone tells you that you are biased, and here's where the proof is in the pudding, each of them has a podcast now, so let's see who's the last man standing. because I don't see you addressing Math's point that they had already breached the contract and had started their own shows prior to the Revolt offer. Many times we get together to make moves, or we support someone else's move and never state clearly what is to happen in different scenarios. We expect for us to ride the wave and when we don't get what we asked for, or we misunderstand something, we don't use our heads and reach out for clarity, we , since the internet started, go out and slam one another, and then sparks start to fly. There have been a lot of networks that switched up it's casts when different deals are done, and no one says a word. The only difference here is that because everyone is trying to come up, we feel as if we are equal. Naturally, when things change, some people will be left behind and some will travel with you. Joe Budden's podcast survived and so will Math's.
@@9thDapp these industry niggas TAP DANCE ALL DAY LONG depending on WHO ASKING THEM to TAP DANCE FOR EM 💯💯 I don't care as much you do. ALL I SEE IS EGOS from ppl in these SPACES.
Respectfully This is what happens when old niggas don’t own!!
cant we all just get alonnnggg 😭
None of that negates your contract. That would have been the stats to bring up when your contract expired to renegotiate a better deal. Not snake your man’s cuz you feel like you deserve more right now.
Great content as usual Big Ant ❤️
💯💯💪🏾
math let joe get in his ear...probably said this yo show and got the bigger name
Yall just dumb if yall really think that🤦🏾♂️
Folk was talking reckless when Royce the 5’9 came up there.
If he breached the contract 50 million times, why didn't leave then? Why did it take the 50th million time?
Glad you're still pushing fam.
Stay Blessed bro God Blessed u n your family n ur channel 🙏🏾
💯💯
My passwords? Alien Tongue and Holy Water.
People never know when they Tito. We don’t know those guys outside of New York without Math.
The industry knows them and thats all that matters. They are ones that got the celebs on the podcast. We see the difference now without them. YAWN!
I knew them before math
@@teattime facts
The podcast had the connections because of them. You think ppl were coming to all to a washed battle rapper? The dynamic of the show is going to be completely off with them gone.
@@teattime it all depends on the guest. They didn’t make it better or worse in my opinion.
Ive never ever once watched the podcast due to these guys. Not once have i even cared for their opinion. Wild. Just got their names now that theyre relevant to the story.
ngl, im starting to realize why Jay-z juked a bunch of these niggaz in the past... there's a pattern
I watch for Math, Mecca, and Bigga, Heniken was aight, but I never liked Esso, he stayed interrupting dudes.
You sound like Doc Rivers
Damn, this is sad. I LOVED the show.
Mecca and math is the show... they gonna be alright
NY niggas say the location and the address 😆 We was at Leo's on 118fth and 7fth
😂😂😂
That's how the city is organized
I guess they don’t know the saying “ if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. “
Well those are my passwords. Not earthers.
The show was popping waaaayyyyy before them though🤷🏻♂️
Shit have nothing to do with being black men. It’s just business & character in general.
The whole industry pocket watch which is what I thought us as a culture despised.
Damn how much money do it take to rent a barber shop get some cameras and put it on UA-cam
Man that bag is just like alcohol, it changes people when it hits.
It was inevitable. Crabs will be crabs.
Aye UPT let me work for you for 3 months and start negotiating business deals behind your back on your behalf 😂😂😂😂
Damn it's all fucked now.. That podcast was great.😔
I Follow Joe's Podcast, What's Wild Hoffa Sounds Just Like Joe, When He Was Having Is Issue😬
Exactly like Joe!
You can't say your the reason why the subscribers numbers went up because you came aboard, MEO was a great show before you and it was growing because he was giving great interviews and he was bring on people that people wanted to see and listen to, so stop it with the whole when you got on the numbers sky rocketed. Stop it This is the exact reason why Black/Women have a hard time succeeding together. MEO will continue to succeed without them 2. #TEAMHOFFA4EVER.
I wouldn't be shocked if revolt told esso that lie about the deal to break them up Ppl know what their doing by putting money in front of black ppl and its sad instead of sitting down like men and seeing were all parties went wrong but I guess nobody knows how to really COMMUNICATE
ALL THIS MEANS IS...BIG ANT, "STAY DOLO...DONT HAVE ANY CO-HOSTS!""
I disagree G, just gotta tell people exactly what it is & what’s going on, some will leave , some will stay but some shows the niche is conversation with & debates with others, that’s what makes it stand out
@@urbanpoliticianstv4115 I feel you...and I wanna agree with you too. But too many times, and no matter what is agreed upon prior to "blowing up"...some co-hosts seem to want to want more credit/acknowledgement ($$) seeing it all too often recently. But I definitely get your point bro!💯💪🏾 #StayOnYaPivot
I’m not saying WHO’S lying but clearly, someone’s a filthy goddamn liar and it really makes me sick 🤦🏾♂️
This is CraZy
But if you were paying attention you can notice Math started getting a little shaky (corporate/business) wit his takes on the pod a couple months back.
Damnnnnnn 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Every podcast should be one person podcast cause folks can’t handle success at all.
Vampires!!!
It don’t hit the same sometimes, having a debate, giving receiving feed back brings another dynamic to the show
@@urbanpoliticianstv4115 But it saves the bullshit . Lol. People can be shady when that bag comes. Start minimizing key people who helped build the podcast from the ground. It’s the same movie just different characters.
From Gillie and Wallo to JBP to now this they have the same thing in common. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@paultaylor3841 Facts.
I'm I know I'm meant for Rihanna. We're aliens.
This is literally dejavu...JB podcast all over again!
Why is it sooo hard for hip hop to do proper business? This is starting to be a weird theme.
I don’t think I can watch Math again
Great content Bigant you doing ya thang homie
This is what Kevin Hart talking about
Damn, you stay on point don’t you… was wondering if u we’re gonna touch this one
A lot of love and respect from Los Angeles Big Ant. Keep doing ya thing. Fa sh*t sho…
Like how you did this one. New sub!
It never fails🤦🏿
Something not adding up bc this the second time math did this within a year
Bickering
“Bench players talking like starters i hate it”
I don't trust guys that have braids that are over 24yrs old!
😂😂😂
@@michaelgomez2522 I'm just saying Bruh, braids, jacked up teeth. Who is taking him seriously ?
@@viper6782 in all seriousness esso simply ain't necessary for the show. Dude sounded kinda zesty sometimes. I would swap bigga for hynaken tho at this point. Bigga REALLY handled that Tek and steele interview poorly.
@@michaelgomez2522 I don't disagree with you at all, Biggs was bassin up for no reason, finger pointing 🤦🏽, I would make that trade also, Esso annoyed me everytime he opened his mouth. " yea my aunt lived 20 block away from there" yo Esso who cares, SHUT THE FUCK UP
That freestyle was so hot. It was hotdog or is it hot dogs? Hahajaja that's funny? About as funny as funny money if one has ever seen any.
Damn I just got hip to their podcast a few months ago smh
i need that hat and hoody esso got on
Math did right getting them clowns out his new deal! Salute to Math! HOFFA GANG!
Really naw
@@Harlem1mentality Yes Really Goofy
😂😂😂 work for yourself or a real company. Not your homies.
Spit game to your gal not really cause she already love me. She always hugs me. We never hang out at the same place you scrubs be. Handsome smile on my face. Everyone knows Bill Cosby's. Hahajaja
I been watching since Msfit and knowledge
Wait Math Hoffa podcast broke up!? When!?!?!
Smh I knew it was only a matter of time before it got messy
Devils Lie. Lies lead too Hell. Blackman have not learned that yet.....
Respect to Shapoo but dude that interview was too much yep yep.
Shammy!!
You heard it from me first give me my drop lol
Money always breaks up the groups
Why joe always on the side of the podcasters who screw others over?
It's hard for me to trust a black man with no facial hair. Sorry but that's just my thing.
Rory & Mal 😂
Esso can be a problem, but he added vital content to the show. I think Joe Budden added his special brand of poison to the sitchiation, kinda got in Math's head, and here we are.
If I ever start a podcast I will start it with my Goldfish named Charlie and we gonna interview guests only.
You look Dominican bra
It's Math podcast meaning he's the boss whatever he decides to give you it's up to you take it or move on the Boss doesn't have to tell you anything on there business
Once you get past 100k all you have to fo I be consistent he would've gre regardless
Stop all this is “us” talk. Business partners break up all the time no matter what race.
this is a new york trend. From Jay z down the leaders leave they crew.
Hoffa looked Grimey ..the whole thing .. NY dudes especially want to move like them white businessmen. I never liked Hoff energy he just seemed Grimey