Maxus eT90 1000 km challenge
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Hey Bjørn! We need the Ford E-Transit 1000 k challenge, and you must drive 0.5 m behind the car in front of you all the way. That's the European contractor lifestyle, only cosplayers drive pick-ups.
Plus most Americans.. Although they have the F150 Lightning option.
Yes, do it! Might have to do a serious distance with that van in the next year myself, it is useful to know what it's capable of in advance.
Americans too, as others wrote, and Thais too - the amount of these huge contraptions here is baffling. Sometimes they're put to good use though, transporting a lot of bulky goods/people...
A lot of interesting stuff in this video: The electric motor is not only poorly protected from impacts, but it's also mounted on the axis. So, it will face a lot of vibration. Also, it increases the unsprung mass, really bad for comfort, even being a pick up. Not a good design option IMHO.
Very common construction. All LSEVs (low speed electric vehicles, like the Ligier Bjorn tested) are like this and by extension, also many small Chinese city cars like Wuling Hongguang Mini EV or Geely Panda Mini. The motor is bolted directly to the differential housing of the solid axle. There have been 1 or 2 examples of LSEVs with in-wheel axial flux motors, but that's more expensive. These solid e-axles are probably really, really cheap when bought in bulk. Most pickups also have solid axles, so it's quite understandable why the motor ended up where it is. It's the case for most of the Chinese pickup conversions (from an ICE model).
Most electric trucks have motors mounted that way including semi-trailers and container trucks
@@hi9580 I'm not an expert on light trucks, but other medium or heavy duty EV's have used better approaches. For instance: the Ford Transit electric has a motor on the rear axle position but mounted on the frame. Power reaches the wheels through CV shafts. Heavier trucks usually place the electric motor on the former combustion engine bay and use a shaft to deliver the power to the rear differential. This is quite weird from my perspective and not a good solution at all on comfort or durability terms.
Clearly SAIC have chosen to alter an ICE pickup to EV by changing the least number of parts to keep the price to a minimum. Dipping a toe in the EV water so to speak.
0:30 that is not a spoiler, is a protection for gravel.
That plastic piece is to protect the front of the hood paint from rocks chips. Offroad pickup, gravel and rocks.
Thank you for your effort in benchmarking EVs. You are the best source of information regarding these vehicles.
At least is the fastest pickup truck you tested...😂
Now you need to test a Lightning!
" is there a moose party over there?"
:-) :-)
They are giving them away here in the UK. £99 per month.
The Ford Transit has a similar exposed motor and electronics on the rear axle of their van.
You really do not know a wind deflector? They work similar to the ones at the side windows. In Thailand there are mounted on every second pick up truck...Thanks for your efforts. Love to watch your videos. Greeting from Uttaradit, Thailand.
Beetle! 25:55 Sleeper alert!
Really weird and dangerous issue with the transmission parking lock. Is it always in neutral or does it get into park when you take the key out of the ignition?
There's no Park gear. Only neutral and then a manual handbrake. Ridiculous on a 2023 EV...
@@basedw I agree. It's also quite dangerous. Now I understand Bjorn complaint
This is the most best road video. I line the country music and this huge uslike truck. And then, the food, with meat balls and mushpotados! How‘dy, I like that sh**********t. Northern truck videos for the win!
Neighbour got one as a test. Returned it after 3 days and got a Ford Ranger. Was not impressed with the Maxus
What a car. Is it a new Terminator? Nice one is that the seat can be tilted for sleeping;). On ~25 min point when looking at the motor is there a Obd port or what is those cables;)
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I love the soundtrack 😂
1.5mile/kWh - 100 mile range on the motorway in winter…. hmmm, I could live with that, just.
The GM 212kWh pack machines achieve similar consumption figures, from what I’ve seen, so I would imagine it’s mostly down to aero.
For [pickup trucks a tonneau cover is mandatory for any smart person.
That truck bed has a negative effect on fuel consumption dragging the car down.
It's estimated 10% increased efficiency with just covering up the truck bed.
The wind resistance in 120km/h (70mph) is WAY higher than in 90km/h (50mph) because wind resistance increases squared to speed. So not driving 120km/h all the time like in the video and bettering the aero capabilities of the truck, you can easily get more mileage per charge.
Schnell, kaputt, schmutz 😂
My guess was ten minutes out. 😢 13 with your corrections.
Hope they are listening to the feedback for version 2.0. It needs a Frunk, better protection for the motor & components underneath, V2L & faster charging.
Is that a prototype?
I want to see, how to enter a truck. Must be awesome. What about parking? Just park OUTDOORS! Yeah, that‘s fine. Size matters - and a lot of space and capacity!
But at least… It has the charge port on the left side, which is the right side, and not on the right side, which is the wrong side… 😅
Sat in one of these at Fully Charged North and thought it seemed like a pile of sh*t then. I'm not down on Chinese stuff but this thing really seems to live up to the stereotype.
When you have Maxus Mifa 9 ?
ABCD: Almost Be Can Do
That thing is operated like an EV conversion. Totally legal, but not very modern at all. Very lackluster design by SAIC.
There you go. A car from the land of fasades and deceites in its true form. How is that allowed in europe?
Electric pick-up at the price of internal combustion. I have low expectations but this is too shitty.
That is a really ugly car! Who builds these things?😁
SAIC
You are right; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxus_T90
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Where is your ... Cowboy Hat? 😂 💪🤦♂️
And boots. Square dance with Amily.
Big 12 V battery propably because of diesel engine in China.
And no shotgun in your trunk??
@@Sinkkonen-iw5svfor squirrels? 😂Guess they don't have squirrels in Norway 😅
It looks more like homemade EV conversion from cheapest T90 model. Fosil T90 has navigation, cruse control, is 4x4, even has bluetooth keys. Is it really SACI production. I think the car you just test muset have been by some garage startup in china having nothing Maxus :)
First 3:12 minutes I'm alredy giggling..
No cruise control? Did we just time-travel to 1986?
400Wh/km? Well that's just some fat E-tron numbers, eh?
WTH kind of music are you playing this time? Stereotypical Pick-up music? LOL!!! 😆
This episode is looking good so far
Even normal cruise control wasn't standard around 2000 at least.
@@marcel151 it was on each of my mercedeses at least...
@@dingdong2103 This is work equipment, not a luxury car. You don't measure what is standard by looking at the luxury segment, any reasonable person can understand this. CC was not standard on Hyundai in 2011 which is more representative of the general market than luxury car.
@@dingdong2103 I said standard...
At least it seems to have air conditioning... Cars sold in Europe in the actual 1980s almost never had AC. Sunny summer day car trips could be horrible back then. :)
Wow that undercarriage shot confirms it for me. Avoid this junk at all costs.
The perfect vehicle for construction, ultiliy and farm work. It can a carry a load. It doesn’t need all the electronic gubbins , satnav etc … a normal handbrake is fine.. it can I’ll a trailer and can go over roughy ground. This was built for a purpose. It was not built or sold to target those who buy these trucks to to use them as a normal car.
That car would have been good enough if they got the basics right in the chassis. The motor and control electronics SHOULD NOT be exposed like that. I don't think that would even pass my country's legistlation. Also the no park mode is a fatal flaw. I hope nobody buys these.
Compliance car anyone?
I couldn't find the Mythbusters episode you mentioned, but I seem to recall the exact opposite as you. The tailgate up creates a bubble of turbulent air in the bed, which air can then flow over, improving efficiency. The tailgate down has the opposite effect. Here's a young Jason explaining it: ua-cam.com/video/xocaC15WwA0/v-deo.html&ab_channel=EngineeringExplained
I don’t know about efficiency but it doesn’t seem legal to have it down like that.
There also doesn't seem to be a locking position for the tailgate in the down position, so anytime the car goes over a bump in the road the tailgate would slam down to the endpoint of its travel distance - very likely damaging it over time. So, not good! :P
Holy Emmanuel!!! That’s a Baby Jason.
Excellent music selection for the car :)
I would be interessted in the track list of the music used in this video.
i can see Bjorn wearing cowboy boots and a "fanny pack" whatever that is? :)
This is definitely a gas car platform converted to EV.
It certainly gives that vibe!
I'm looking forward to the F150 Lightning, it might do a bit better. It's coming to Norway, Ford announced it.
If this pickup can’t really accelerate up an incline with no payload how is it going to cope when carrying 2,500kg?
Perfect for the American market lol. Just gotta drive it for show
Japanese and Chinese mid-sized trucks aren't about acceleration or speed. With enough cooling, torque and traction you will eventually get up any hill.
A very low bar to set.
I'm not impressed at all with the Maxus, it seems to be nothing more than a compliance car. It under-equipped, and over-priced.
To me this looks like a compliance car/truck. Not worth it.
The spoiler on the hood protects the bonnet from stone chips and the ones on the windows makes it possess to have the windows slightly open without wind noise and prevents rain and snow from getting inside the car
Lets make an EV with a front that catches more wind then a sailing boat.
Man is this truck ugly!
We have these in New Zealand, both ICE and EV. The motor is on the rear axle if you have a look underneath.
One day you will lose the motor on a pothole.
Gavin reviewed the eT60 over on the Ecotricity channel. He's not as nerdy as Bjorn, but it's entertaining nonetheless: ua-cam.com/video/slUYqajg0_g/v-deo.html
@@NotAnonymousNo80014 This is Norway though... You won't find a pothole on their roads big enough to kill this car's motor. ;)
You'd have to run into a sudden rock slide or something for that to happen.
That country music had me LOLing!
400 watts is ok. Even 500 is worse, it is fine. Too much complaining on consumption. On the other hand, with dieseling causes 900 watts (co2), it is much more efficient. I like that! And plz, it is a working horse!
400V x 200A = 80.000W When i see it from the side, i dont wonder that it is such a gasguzzler, obviously they have the BMW-disease.
The most useless Pickup
Great selection of country music. :D
2023 has nothing usefull xD no lane assist, navigation or cruise controll???? wtfff
The biggest problem is the basic concept of this type of road monstrosity.
A lot of my neighbours actully need pickups for work, they are farmers, builders and landscapers. I don't need the capacity so I tow a trailer when I do. Yes driving one when you don't need it is a problem, nit the truck itself
Generally if you don't live in US or AU only people who need a pickup would drive one.
@@idrisddraig2 your neighbours are the proper users of a pickup truck
But in recent decades it ended up as a luxury item, people bragging with trucks they use instead of a small hatchback, because they don't use the truck as a truck, just as a showoff, compensating for something else maybe.
Buying the performance versions of pickup trucks, even though they just go to the mall and back on paved roads, and never setting foot on proper offroad
@@roberts.wilson1848 in France any vehicle like a pickup has an improper use use (malus) tax of €10K added at purchase, if you can't prove otherwise. Also anything over 3.5T Gross Vehicle weight is a comercial vehicle and needs apropriate licence, tachograph (driver log recorder) and 90kph speed limiter. So we don't get any of the larger pickups (anything bigger than an F150) because they can't just have them as a toy!
The front spoiler is to protect the hood and windscreen from rocks and tirespikes
I like this truck. Amps and Volts?! What the .. That thing is more than that sh*t. It‘s a working horse for small businesses. I like that! Even it‘s thirsty, it‘s absolutely and very efficient!
To bad the electronics , battery and charging sucks , cause it's freaking gorgius., get it upto standards and I'd buy that thing.
and I'm waiting for my Skoda Enyaq. 80X (82kw) , you may have to give the Enyaq another go. charging and efficiency has been revamped with software upgrades. It used to be 125kw max, after update 3.0 and 3.2 it's up to 175 kw max charing speed
It's their first go at it, with time (if they sell) they'll refine and improve.
dacia spring 1000 km should come now😇
Why is the charge light on the instrument panel showing charge from right as opposed to charge from from left as seems to be the case?
FrankenTruck
The bug deflector and wind deflector remind me of cars/trucks of the 80’s. The truck seems to be the same vintage, except for the drive.
This truck looks like it was converted to electric
its probably because it is a conversion. a really shit one.
He haw partner! 🤠
You really need to cover that bed... most pickups in europe are sold with bed covers... this one isnt but im already used to chinese cars coming half assembled... you could probably already find a shield for that engine as well
When is the 50kWh 100kW platform van test? :)
W h a t you had too stop 2 times in a 340km trip! ! !?? I LOVE TO SEE THE PULL THRU CHARGERS AT IONITY. ALL CHARGERS N E E D TO BE THIS WAY. TESLA TAKE NOTE, STOP WITH THE BACK IN CHARGERS AND MAKE THEM ALL PULL THRU. This is very Important especially now with pickups hitting the market and people TOWING TRAILERS. There is a reason all ice fuel stations are made PULL thru rather than back in, electric chargers need to be that way as well, plus the fact that the pump can be accessed from either side. The lack of power in this pickup is ridiculous and dangerous and power efficiency makes no sense. Obviously this is an ICE truck converted to electric, and not very well. Lack of a frunk and such a small bed in the back means this is not any better than a hatch back for most people . CHEERS AND SAFE TRAVELS Steve h.
That thing doesn't have an aero shield underneath the car. No wonder it slurps electricity... That and the no frunk, low charging speed, poor performance, parking brake that can be disengaged while charging etc smells el cheapo chinese engineering bigtime. That grounding braid also looks hella dodgy! With it waving about in the breeze and the car going over bumps etc - how long until it develops metal fatigue? Especially as it's probably made out of aluminium...
Chinese vehicle makers CAN do things properly for sure, if they just want to. Depressing that whoever made this thing don't seem to be trying very hard with this model...
Btw, those Norwegian EV charging stations with rows and rows of stalls... Bigtime jealousy! lol
Get prepared, this winter will be very snowy and icy.
20:36 that is much needed drifting haha
Country and Western in Norway, Only Bjorn 🤠
what's the point? 1000 kg towing capacity is nothing. for a pickup truck.... 🥵🥵
I remember looking forward to this car... too bad it turned out to be one of the worst attempts at an EV
Lightning please! also test with trailer.
Front shield is bug/stone deflector - usually to prevent damage to bonnet paint - taller ones will minimise windscreen damage. The door "wind deflectors" are great for being able to drive with a window open. They remove the pressure hammering .. I fit on all my cars as I like to enjoy the countryside rather than be sealed off from the world
I’ve had a couple of cars with that and they all had pressure hammering. I always thought they were so you could crack the windows even in the rain.
I've heard other reviewers call them rain guards. On google, they show up as 'wind and rain guards'
Wow. That's worse than the Endurance. By the way:
20:30 that was suspicious.
Kids making donuts with their cars, happens on almost every empty parking lot outside business hours :)
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I think the front spoiler is for deflecting child splatter away from your windshield, when you accidentally drive through a kindergartnen 😈
28:40 Meanwhile #EQV with a time of 11:55 is in the table 😉However, it is possible that in actual summer temperatures it may be even faster.
Maybe an OTA software update will resolve the charging issue 😂🤣
chiiiiii na
Interesting if putting some load to see the range
5:42 400 V * 200 A = 80 kW.
But the pack voltage is only around 375 V. And since this is LFP then there's very little variatnion in voltage.
I would love to see Rivian
Maxus eT go home.
No mechanical park break is illegal I would think. 🇨🇦
*brake
The parking brake thing is not that concerning imo.
The same problem is present with ICE cars at the gas station too but we managed to live with it for decades. It is still safer as an ICE car if you can't put it in Drive while charging. (can you? xD)
ICE cars have a gear that can act as a break. That's what this truck lacks. The 2nd line of defense.
*brake
It's crazy that a 600 mile drive in an EV has to be classed as a challenge. Whereas I can just jump into my diesel car and drive 600 miles and not think twice about any challenge.😂
Whose looking forward to comparing Cybertruck 1000km challenge?! 😀
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"Not the best." 12:16
But is it the worst?
No park in the gearbox; dog slow charging; poorly mounted motor; unnecessarily huge ICE 12v battery and radiator; no cruise control; awful stereo; limited vehicle to load; no frunk; struggling over 100kph up even a gentle hill and not loaded...
It might suit a contractor who needs to carry stuff around to site and wants to have "100% Electric" written on the side. For anyone else, don't touch it with a barge pole!
The no park issue might actually make it illegal to sell in some countries.
Wind deflectors*
Can't wait for Cybertruck 1000km challenge (eventually). 📐
it will do much better than anything else. The front shape and then the rear bed cover
A little less like an aerodynamic brick which the conventional pickup trucks are