I found it more profitable to only "snipe" the lone wolf players that prime their GBs heavily because they aren't using 1.9s for whatever reason... Most of them are glad for the "snipe" contribution, in which case it is a mutually beneficial arrangement....so I just scan the neighborhood for any such players whenever new neighbors are brought in, and then I send a friend invite. This way I end up "sniping" a good portion of my friend list because they want me to. It's a win win profitable situation.
Exactly. This is the way. If you haven't seen it, check out my video on this topic ua-cam.com/video/Zyk0mFOnbGg/v-deo.htmlsi=oxaZFKoJbfLGw71b Thanks for the comment!
Many guilds have strict rules concerning when and how FPs can be added to GBs…obviously outsiders cannot be held to those rules but then the definition of sniping can be different within that guild than it is outside.
Love it, a few videos in and you’re talking about the ethics of sniping! Such a unique channel and view of the game, really enjoy your videos. As for the topic, sniping 1 and 2 at the sweet spot for GBs (like 30s for Arc) for profit when someone clearly uses a 1.9 thread regularly (look at the previous few levels) is the unethical part for me. You have sufficient info here that it’s very likely to be unwelcome. That’s much different to helping self levellers. But agree that we control our response, no point getting upset, take steps to avoid it next time or msg the person. Like the way you added that perspective at the end.
Thank you for weighing in. I'm so glad that you have enjoyed the videos and it made me feel especially good that you used the word unique to describe the channel. You have a great attitude about playing the game. The game needs alot more players like you~!
Every time my neighbourhood changes I spend a decent amount of time checking out how much I can tax them. I rarely leave my GBs in a position to be sniped. I do however ask friends to outbid those who foolishly attempt to make a bad snipe, well they have to learn. If I’m going to delete a GB I will leave it open and when I’ve caught enough snipers I will delete it. Another lesson. Sniping is a fun feature of the game that would be very difficult to do if people knew what they were doing.
What's frustrating about regular sniping... I don't mind loosing a couple of hundreds of fps once in a while, neither do I think it's incredibly worthy for the sniping player, unless he has a huge arc... what's much worse is, that it makes it much more stressful to level your buildings, because you have to put in points again and put it in the 1,9x thread and then when you do the harvest the level is not even finished and you have to think where else to invest your harvest... sniping each other is just a lose-lose situation... what's cool ist sniping people who don't bother using a 1,9x leveling threat, because that's a win-win situation... and honestly, when I get sniped by someone with an 180 arc I think, "well at least it was profitable for him, his actions make sense, having extra work for a benefit of 500 fps, that's understandable", but getting sniped by players with a tiny ass arc and having all the extra work for him to gain ~50 fps... it's so pointless... why making the experience for all players so much more stressful without even having a real benefit? I hate this attitude fr... like when you have a neighbour who steals your deliveries once in a while... it's not about the financial loss, it's about having to reorganize my life because of that stupid a hole... those snipers are shitty people with disgusting personalities, those people make life more stressful for everybody around them for absolutely no reason, and in the end no one wins because no my deliveries are sent somewhere else, all that complications for nothing... no these thieves have no opportunity t steal from me, they won nothing, but I have extra complications with every. single. delivery. i get. and look, when a junkie tries to steal something from me that's understandable, he is desperate and has no other chance to get his supply and he can't handle his situation otherwise and I let it go.... but if anyone else does it, someone without a good reason... once I catched an asshole who tried to steal something out of my yard, I asked him why he did it, and he had absolutely no good reason... but I made him pay with his health, because I don't tolerate this shit, those people are responsible that the world is the mess that it is... and when I get the chance to make them pay for it I will always do it... I still remember the sound of his nose crack... music in my ears, fuck yeah ... there's no excuse for these peoples behavior, making the world a worse place for absolutely no reason, fucking disgusting... they would kill their old neighbors for a cold sandwich, if they knew they would get away with it (they would'nt and that's the only reason, why they don't pull it off), that's exactly the attitude... same type of people, that's a fact... these cowards just don't have the balls to do this shit in real life, but it's exactly the same attitude, so. fucking. disgusting.
I haven't sniped for awhile but found it a useful tool as I was building my world(s)...a really good way to get extra BPs and FPs. If someone leaves their GB open to sniping...that's on them. I never worry on the few occasions that I have been sniped...it's only a game and you're not actually losing anything real.
I think it's funny that people consider it unethical, the "sniper" is contributing to your great building, the only thing they are "stealing" is your ability to have artificially favorable contributions through a 1.9 or higher thread.
I love sniping . I have a level 180 arc and it feeds my other gbs and a good healthy fp bank for the guild. Just about 5k in fps a day from hunting . Changed the game really . I’m a long time player. Since 2013
Congrats on the level 180 Arc - that is incredibly impressive. I really appreciate having someone who has played for 11 years watching my videos. Thank you!
I use the fps to push my cf to higher levels. Since I am in SAT and those great buildings require more goods the higher I level the cf the more goods it gives me on recurring quests. I get 51 a flip now. Between SAT and cf that’s where my fps go.
As someone who just played this game on and off, it's really great to find someone to explain the more advanced mechanics. The friends video was great and this one is too!
for me for it to be "sniping" a GB it has to be : a .a GB that has spots open but 1 or more spots are not taken yet ,and someone who has not been approved by the owner, takes a spot below the ratio the owner want the spots to be taken at costing the owner Fps, as if it was taken at the ratio they wanted, the would saved more FPs isntead it becomes a FP loss sometimes for both owner and sometimes other players (if they got overtaken). b. the "sniping"player benefits from the action as they are making more FPs than they invested based on their Arc, it can be little or alot based on other factors (type of GB, level, age of GB higher age cost more Fps so more profit potential if sniped). Profit alone, do not equal "sniping", both a loss (below expected ratio) for the owner and profit (above their Arc bonus)for the donor wich is unapproved by the owner is needed.
I absolutely agree with your assessment that "Profit alone, do not equal sniping". I mean, a profitable drop on a GB could be mutually beneficial and then everyone is happy! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I think the main ethical question regarding sniping is actually when you snipe a spot in a GB that has clearly been leveling with a swap thread. The annoying thing about that is that you're not actually hurting the person you're doing this to, you're hurting the other participants of the swap. Imagine if you post a GB in a swap, and then after that you post it in a 1.9, to have people add specific numbers of fp to secure spots. That would obviously be hugely unethical: the very concept of a swap thread presupposes that as the GB owner you would not sollicit any other fp contributions than the swaps, to ensure that people have a chance of extra reward for their swap. Sniping rarely, if ever, harms the snipee, rather it can harm the guild members of the snipee.
Great comment - thanks for sharing. Interesting perspective, although I have always viewed swap threads as not really having any sort of obligation tied to it, other than adding the correct swap amount. In other words, since it does not guarantee a position the way a 1.9X does, then it's really just quite random where people end up when it flips. Overall, I would not recommend swap threads for this reason, as you are leaving it to chance what kind of return you get on your investment. I think what you are talking about depends on the specific expectations that a guild might have for a swap thread, if the swap is primarily for use by the guild. Different might guilds have different expectations. Appreciate you watching the video and sharing your thoughts,
@@BardoFarkins oh I agree that swaps are a worse system than 1.9. However, the outcome isn't exactly random (in fact, it almost might be better if it *were* random), there are ways in which it can be predictable, and also, if you snipe or if the GB owner puts the building in a 1.9 afterwards, it's definitely not random, you know that spots that "belonged" to swap contributors would be taken up for sure!
My definition of sniping has two components: 1. Investing forgepoints in a LB without the consent of the owner. 2. With the main intanton to receive more FP than invested.
My FL is 95% with selflevellers. As soon as I see them dropping points on their gbs, I lock a position and take profit. I avoid sniping GBs when they are at their sweet spots unless the owner has dropped points. When I receive message to top up my contribution to 1.9 level, I do it and delete the person from FL. Usually those that overprime their buildings get mad about sniping. Honestly, they are the Karens of FOE. If you are so worried about getting a certain amount of FP, prime your GBs correctly. As I don't want to waste my time on replying someone mentally underdeveloped, I just continue my day like nothing has happened. I'm totally ok if I get sniped. It's my responsibility to make sure I secure positions to receive 1.9x contributions. Though, I've been sniped less than dozen of times. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it.
You know what really gets my goat... is when they refuse to level that GB because you're on it! I've had playes hold my FP's hostage or month's... I've watched them start leveling other GB's out of spite! I hate to say it, but since we're being truthful... I wait until I can flip their GB, and I flip it!... because this is just a game, and no one should be blowing fuses over it.... Respectfully...
@@theknubianknight Yeah, that really sucks....especially when you put hundreds on it! Or they simply stop playing and you are stuck and just OUT those fps. This is why I only drop fps on players that WANT me to do it and are active players. Otherwise they might get pissed and refuse to level it! - Which mainly will hurt them in the long run. Great comment - thanks!
@@BardoFarkins Nonsense. If you snipe someone using a 1.9 thread, it's your decision, and your fault for a dickish move, not theirs. "If you don't want to get shot and robbed, then wear a bulletproof vest! It's pretty simple really!" How can you guys blame someone else for getting shot when it's YOU pulling the trigger??? You're fooling yourselves to justify selfish-AF behaviour.
@@johnyoung2705 thanks for your comment. exactly. those people would kill their neighbor for a cold sandwich, if they knew they would get away with it. (fortunately they dont, so they dont have the balls to pull this shit off in real life) fucking a holes creating lose-lose situations for everybody, making the world a worse place for everybody for absolutely no good reason.
Thanks for another interesting and original video. I am close to some thought as shared here. For me an essential thing is that the game remains a good entertainment with positive emotions. Therefore I avoid severe conflicts about such a silly thing as virtual „forge point”: if a snipped one shows one’s anger, I settle it down with adding the fp to the 1.9 balance without deliberating much. If no reactions to my snipe - I feel good enough, because I do not feel responsible for teaching anyone how to optimise the game - it is also one’s choice not to even write a short message to me, asking for adding missing FP. I know it does not solve the „ethic issue”, because there are certainly snipped ones who are timid to interact with the sniper, yet taking it with a pain etc. - but here it comes what you say at the end of the video: it is just the game, with its competitive part. It is not a savoir-vivre competition. A separate interesting issue is, however, how we react to being snipped😉 I am never happy when it comes, of course, but I learnt how to take my responsibility and accept. Also, it happened to me to write a short message to a sniper (a polite one, with some sense of humour) - and the reaction was usually positive. Cannot wait for the next video🤩👍
Great comment! I love your attitude about the game. I'm like you....if I ever snipe someone who is on a 1.9 thread and I did not realize it, and they bring it to my attention, I always offer to make up the difference maybe add a bit for for the headache. Thank you for joining the conversation and I appreciate your perspective and your support.
Thanks for watching! Follow this link for a video that is more along the lines of a how-to for sniping: ua-cam.com/video/xER7MHKOs1c/v-deo.htmlsi=pejkFCXX8X2a3aAV In this video I summarize FoE Info and demonstrate how it has a really great tool that can be used to invest in other's GB's for significant forge point returns. Cheers!
I acquire 5000 - 6000 FPs a day from collections and more when fighting or doing GE, so they have to go somewhere and I don't always have a GB ready to level, so I snipe my neighborhood only, never my friends list. If you leave open a GB with a 50+ FP profit, you should expect to get sniped. I hate people who only play offense, but never defense and get mad when someone scores on them. I learned the hard way. I have been sniped several times and had people cheating me on swap threads. No more. I defend my GBs and my city as well. I have over 75,000 FPs sitting on GBs and some have been there for years and I will never get them back. I used to use swap threads and thought a 1 FP investment on GBs may luck into a payout, so I have 1 FP on hundreds of GBs from years ago that are just dead to me. There are several ways to secure your GBs from sniping and if you don't use them, you cannot blame anyone for getting sniped except yourself. Also, a 1.9 thread is just that, a 1.9 thread. If I put 1.9 on that is all I need to do. I do NOT need to put more on because I have a higher ARC. I can if I want, but I do NOT have to. If you are in a 1.9 MINIMUM thread, then maybe, but NOT on a straight 1.9 thread. I was thrown out of a 1.9 thread for only contributing 1.9 when I had a level 82 ARC. People look for ways to be offended in the real world and that is bad enough, but in a GAME?!? Get real. If I follow the rules and you get offended, that is on YOU not me.
En général , je ne snipe pas, mais il m'arrive de le faire "contre mon gré". C'est à dire qu'il m'arrive d'avoir des pf à distribuer à ceux qui m'aide (poli/motiver). Je regarde s'ils ont des places de disponible sur leur GM et parfois ils ont trop posé de PF et ce qui reste à poser est parfois bien inférieur à la valeur réelle des places. Dans ce cas, même en posant le maximum (tout en laissant suffisamment de PF disponible pour les places inférieures), j'y gagne énormément. D'autre fois c'est moi qui me fait sniper et j'ai horreur de ça car bien souvent ça ne vient pas d'un petit joueur qui essaye de gratter quelques PF deci delà, mais de gros joueurs ayant de très grosses arches qui peuvent largement se permettre de poser au taux 1.90 ou 1.93. Et du coup, c'est à moi de rajouter des pf. Bien entendu je ne snipe pas mes amis, seulement mon voisinage et seulement "contre mon gré", sinon je pose toujours à 1.90 ou plus selon le joueur. Je n'ai pas la mentalité d'un rat, mais plutôt d'une bonne fée.
Sniping is when you take a position in such a way that another player is pushed down to a place they then have overpaid for. I.e. it's not something you do to the owner of the GB. The owner may even be quite happy with your contribution, but the pushed-down player will not be. But if they underpaid for the position that you took, it's their own fault.
I only 'snipe' (though I don't consider it sniping at all) self-levelers and people who use swap threads. I consider sniping on GBs whose owners use 1.9 threads unethical, so I don't do it, unless I'm getting revenge on someone who has done that to me first. Also, I ALWAYS secure the spots before asking for them when leveling up my GBs. I wish everyone in my guild was like that, but unfortunately, many aren't
If I see a nice profit opportunity, I scroll back through their previous levels. If it looks like they are filling close to 1.9, i'll back off, but if there are vacant FP spots going unclaimed, i'm all over it. Also, for self-levelers getting hit by well known snipers, sometimes a courtesy note to building owner offering significantly more than what they were sniped for(but still profitable for you) can be a win/win/win. Helps you, helps building owner, agitating a cheapo sniper. My message will be along the lines of "offering### fp for top spot when you get to ### FP.
I often do as you have said. Take a look a the last few levels to see if they are a player that does 1.9's. If not, and if they are active (which, you can see here foe.scoredb.io/US11/Players ) then go for the snipe. If they contact you and are pissed, you can always add enough to make it 1.9 or whatever they expect. Thanks for weighing in with a great comment.
what do u do with FP when u are stuck on your next advance.....all your Great Buildings are full and you cant collect a whole city worth of stuff cos your full of FP????? asking for a friend.....I just put them on friends GB,,,,,didnt know I was doing anything wrong.
There are a few options. But in my opinion the best option is to be on a 1.9 thread when you can quickly dump large amounts of FP on a friends GB and then it will quickly convert into your forge point bank when the building levels. Or, of course, if you have a high level Arc you can just go sniping. It's always important to have some quick options available at all times to dump your FPs, especially after collecting your city or after a successful GbG session.
Whatever you do with your FPs (short of just not playing or staying just completely to yourself) you piss somebody off. People cannot give a consistent definition of “sniping” and since some of the definitions are mutually contradictory- thus you can’t do anything with your FPs without pissing somebody off. And it seems that 1.9 guilds attract angry people (there’s plenty of polite and helpful people in 1.9 guilds as well - but you never see folks outside of 1.9 guilds getting irrationally mad and being unable/unwilling to talk it out).
Thanks for weighing in and sharing these thoughts. In my next video I will talk about how I carefully craft my friends list so that I hardly ever piss anyone off with how I drop FP's on their buildings. If you have a friends list full of self levelers and swappers, then they welcome anything you ever put on there..well, except for leveling it when they are planning to "double-dip" their collection. My guild experience might be different than yours. We have about 80 members of everyday active players and we utilize various 1.9X threads quickly, efficiently and very generously - as folks often put way more that what is required just to be extra helpful in building each other up. So between having a great guild and an active friends list of self levelers, I manage to very rarely piss anyone off! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your perspective - good luck!
i am a self levveller and do indeed BEG people to put FPs on my GBs...i cant be bothered with all this 1.9 thread shit or whatever its called...far too complicated for me)
Don't gripe about getting Free Fps . Here's a clue for everyone to remember. Those who do the best possible work get the best possible rewards. Ask before placing Fps on anyone's Gbs. Stop complaining , and enjoy the time we get to spend with each other.
I'm new to game and I didn't know what the rules/ courtesy. I had 100 forge points to use so I thought I'd be nice and give all my friends 1 point each on there gb. Is this sniping? I relies later that this is a good way to get blueprints/medals so i still do it. I got only 2 people saying 'you didn't ask for my permission'. I'm thinking whats the big deal?
IMO? There are just some folks out there who can't even enjoy a game - that includes the feature of allowing anyone to contribute FPs to anyone else - without getting even more angry. Lighten up, cranky people - it's a GAME.
This is really a game of war... The building effects are their for mom and pop, therefore, no one should be geeting angry,... and low and behold, they are holding your forge points hostage
It's a Chrome extension I use called FoE Info. Here is a link: chromewebstore.google.com/detail/foe-info/clifeblhbipgjjlngahknaagkkikfhmo It works well for me and seems to be safe. Thanks for watching!
Started playing back when colonial age was the top, took a break and came back after some years. Hated sniping when people were doing it to me, then loved it when I was able to do it myself even on really high level GBs when their owners would put too many of their own FPs or someone adding points to their GB was off in their math. But now, when I have a really healthy amount of FPs save up for any rainy day? Just do it to people who'd be willing to write me up a rude message because I attacked them and plundered some money or tools. Other than that? From a certain point, most people just get too lazy to snipe as you're drowning in FPs and at the same time leveling higher levels of GBs takes a while anyway. At least that's the case for my world and the snipers are well known and people lock their GBs whenever they have said snipers in their neighbourhoods. Great vid! 👍
If a GB position is NOT LOCKED then it is available to be taken if you do not have an agreement with the GB owner or the guild. So with this in mind there is no such thing as sniping but it used by players to try to control what other players do in the game which is kind of narcissistic. To many players do not add enough FP to there GB so contributors can lock the position at least at 1.9. We all need to play according to the game's mechanics. I add the 1.9 FPs so my GB positions can be taken locked before I post them so contributors feel secure and will continue to donate over and over. I also find my buildings get leveled every day or 2 at the most. I use the seed formular of: Total FP to level the GB minus (P1 basic reward X 1.9 X2) = the seed FB amount you need to add to Gb so 1.9 contributions to P1 and P2 will be locked. And after P1 and P2 are taken the owner needs to add more FPs to match the 1.9 rewards. ( Total Leveling FP amount minus (2 X the total 1.9 reward of that position)). EASY PEASY
Yep, that is when it can really suck! I suggest making sure that you are "priming" for each position on a 1.9 before posting. It takes extra time, but it drastically reduces sniping situations/opportunities. Thanks for watching and sharing!
@@BardoFarkins yes it takes time, so everybody takes extra time even tho noone wants to do that, and in the end noone can snipe... if everybody would stop that bs everyone would have a better experience in the game... but there are too many assholes out there... that's why the world is such a terrible mess, some people have such a shitty personality, they would kill their neighbors for a cold sandwitch if they knew they would get away with it (fortunately they don't) those peole which is the same kind of people as snipers they are the worst not even people they are just filth... fucking disgusting
The simple definition of theft is: “Taking something without consent or permission”. Unless one sends a PM to the GB owner asking if they can donate to their GB. Then they stole (Sniped) it. As they did so without consent or permission.
To dishonestly appropriate the property of another with the intention to permanently deprive. You have to prove all elements in law. There are no laws concerning this game, it’s a feature of the game.
First off, thanks for checking out the video! I'm not sure though, that you can call sniping theft. The forge points that the sniper ends up with were never the property of anyone. I think it's fair to pose the question of ethics when it come to sniping - that can be debated, I believe. But to call it theft I don't believe is quite accurate, because the items "Stolen" were never the property of the GB owner. It's a great debate, though!
Sniping is just another strategy and depending on how far you take it the more unetically but also the more profitable it gets … Everybody just has to choose their own point where to stop …
I have played the game for ten years now and have been sniped and have sniped others. The only times I ever really got irked by someone sniping was like for instance lets say I see a person in my neighborhood leveling a building and for maybe weeks I would level it up slowly with what fps I earned daily and think ok surely I'll end up with a top 3 because no other soul has even touched the building and then you wake up one morning to find people out of nowhere just descended upon the building with thousands of fps and now you are like 4th or 5th place so the effort you put into it feels so worthless to you because maybe you donated 1500 fps and you end up winning 25 fps and getting 6 or 7 bps. Most of those emotions for me was when I was a low level player just starting out and trying to become one of the big shots in the guild or the neighborhood who could play the game however they wanted. I just accepted at the beginning that I wouldn't ever finish 1st or 2nd on any high level gbs and focused on 3rd and 4th or 1st and 2nd on mid level gbs I could afford to be aggressive with so I gained decent rewards gained fps and bps until I achieved a nest egg that could compete with just about anyone in my neighborhood or guild that I wanted to. Now I play the game the way I want to so for the most part I swap with a few close friends to level up buildings I desire to enrich my city whether that be with more fps in my nest egg or more bps to continue increasing the levels to my important gbs. Its nice to have reached a point in the game that I can let my mood direct how I will play any given day.
If you don't secure your GB positions and there is an advantage to me - then I will snipe. If your low era and/or low on the leader board I don't snipe.
@@BardoFarkins My ark is currently only at level 131 and I've been playing very little for the last three years. I usually only play for a month and then take a break for 6-9 months. My tactics are based on sniping as many FP as possible as quickly as possible. As it takes a while to level up the buildings, this fits in with the breaks. I have 16k in the graveyard, which are buildings that will probably never be leveled again. Otherwise I have made a profit of around 360k. Since I take such long breaks and I was a Pay2Win player back then, the game offers me 10000 diamonds at some point when I play again. That's why I currently have 22000 diamonds and in december when I take another break maybe 32,000 :)
@@BardoFarkins in Addition ; When I snipe, I am even more precise. I don't have a fixed clan, so I can jump around. I also use the leaderboard. There you can sort what you want to search for and send requests directly to these people. :)
In essence ethics has nothing to do with it. It is simple, each player is responsible for their GB and no one should complain if they get get any open GBs sniped if they have not done all that they can do to protect their gb and secured their positions. And as many others have said, if I get sniped....I do not fault the sniper but rather myself for not making sure all the positions are secure.
Everyone will always be in favor of sniping but i still disagree with it and personally will never do it. Most responses are akin to "well they failed to properly prime buildings so I'm justified". It's the same logic as "well he left his bike on his front lawn so it's totally fine for me to steal it.
That certainly is an understandable analogy! Again, my thing is that it comes down to whether the action is welcome or not. To me, it's not sniping if the receiving party wants you to do it. With your example, if someone puts their bike out by the road and tells people in the neighborhood to take it if they want it, and then someone takes it, then everyone is happy. I appreciate you watching the videos and weighing in with a great analogy.
@@BardoFarkins if someone wants you to do it, it shouldn't be considered sniping. you are just helping them level their building at that point. I just heavily disagree with the toxic attitude of "you get what you deserve for being stupid" that a lot of people take towards sniping. if people would just say hey, I'm just playing the game within the rules and what benefits me most, that I can agree with. great video though. Looking forward to more content.
Totally get it....and I certainly tend to agree with you. At the same time, I do think folks should remember that there is alot they can do to prevent it. It stinks that people have to lock their bikes up, for sure! @@angelfury8182
Sniping is one of the oldest parts of the game. In fact it's almost encouraged right from the first stages of the game in Bronze/Iron Age. You (should) very quickly figure out at the start of the game that the way to build your FP bank is to take spots on other people's GBs where you make back more than you invest, so you can then either invest the profit into your own GBs or reinvest the profit into other GBs to make more profit - basic capitalism. Back in Iron Age, this isn't seen as "sniping" - it's positive investment and accepted practice. The issue comes with the concept of 1.9. Many people in the game see the 1.9 rate as the accepted, even mandated, way of investing in GBs, regardless of whether they use this method or not themselves. This leads to how I would define sniping (or at least my own in game actions) - "Sniping is the process of investing in GBs to generate a return bigger than the investment". That's it, no ethics, no maliciousness, just simply profiteering. In that regard, I kind of agree with one of the comments in the video that 1.9 threads are a form of regulated sniping - you've got an Arc above 80, you invest at 1.9, you make profit. But this is the way of the game, it's essentially a game of capitalism where you need to generate currency from somewhere to keep your own city moving forwards. High level Arcs investing in other GBs, generating profit, is what real world banks do to generate profit after all. Going back to my own activities, my usual Monday morning fortnightly activity following hood change (like today) is to go through my hood and snipe whomever I can. If I can see someone is a 1.9 based player I'll take a precursory look, but generally move on through the hood. If positions on a player's GB are available to be taken and are unsecured to 1.9 amounts, they're fair game for my investment. If a player wants 1.9 investment, they need to secure that GB so the positions aren't profitable at less than 1.9 investment. If the player messages me and asks me to top up to 1.9, then I will. If they don't ask, they don't get, so I take whatever profit my investment is entitled to, without any further thoughts. Only on a couple of occasions have I received an abusive message (most recently three weeks ago) following my "sniping" investment. I simply ignored the message and proceeded to snipe them further throughout the fortnight. Had they been courteous and asked me to top up, I would have done and subsequently left them alone. Sniping, ultimately, is the fault of the GB owner, not the investor.
Incidentally, I found a start up FoE UA-cam channel last week, where they discuss sniping, and in nowhere near the level of detail or with the reason you have here. They've got a very young city and in their attempt to block a sniper on their level 2 LoA, who sniped them for the princely sum of 2FPs (an investment of 8FPs on a 10FP payout), they simply deleted the LoA as a way to "teach the sniper a lesson"! I laughed whilst watching it. They completely ignored the fact that this process cost them the best part of 100FPs in order to get the LoA to near the end of level 2, and a full set of prints to build the thing in the first place. I did comment on the video along these lines, but they've not bothered to reply to me. Their loss I guess.
Also, your intro is a lot better where you do a bit of talking before launching into your theme tune. Much better than just going straight into the music unannounced
Thanks for sharing your commentary. I really like how you simplified it. Well stated! Oh, and I especially appreciate the feedback about the Into. I am trying to shorten it and get right into things as quickly as possible. Thanks for the support!
I just subscribed 71st liked 1.4K views posted 3 weeks ago I am a guild hopper sniping is not needed because so many GB's are so far out of wack it is the owners respondablity not to be sniped
Thanks for the sub...Sometimes I think it would be interesting to take a hiatus from my guild just to hop around a bit and get to know more players that way - and learn about other methods and techniques for doing things. Thanks for being a returning viewer and subscriber. I appreciate you!
I think you should give it a try you would be suprized on how many people put up unfair trades how many guilds dont have 1.9 threads and how many people self point where sometimes 100's of FP are left on the table once you have FoETools no one should have a GB that is snipable its just a matter of math there is a chance at being sniped before it gets taken in the 1.9 thread but usally delt with quicky and life goes on you gave an excellant videoi have been playing for 7 years and this is my 4th time starting from Bronze Age@@BardoFarkins
I'm really glad you liked the video, especially since you have been playing for so long and you know what your talking about! I'm sure stating a new city gives us a new perspective, especially if we have been playing a long time.
Sniping to me is minimum fp investment for maximum reward, it is bad play to put too many fps on any of their GB's. *If you went into a store and see something at a discount, would you pay the full price*
The magic that is leaving a conversation that an angry gb owner started because they cannot be bothered to learn something as basic as 1.9 lmao. Like if you don't want to learn how to avoid getting sniped then expect get rekt kid lol
Right...I mean, people need to understand that there are things they can do to avoid being sniped! It's not like there is nothing they can do about it. Thanks for the comment.
Sniping is stealing of fps from unsuspecting players who just want to advance their gb without getting sniped. Sniping is loop hole players use to take advantage of lower ranked players. I think sniping should be banned from the game it an unfair tactic... First time viewer love the channel keep up the good work. I have future era city and long time fan of the foe gaming platform
I'm glad that you are digging the channel! I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. As a fellow Future Era dweller - good luck and let's enjoy those Hovers!
If you didn't lock it, you didn't want it. Secure your gbs and they are impossible to snipe. Basically, it's your fault. Sounds harsh, but it's the truth.
Haha - it's been a couple of decades since I played Roller Coaster Tycoon and I can't really remember the mechanics. What do you mean? Thanks for watching!
dont be upset if u are taken advantage off due to your own ignorance - its se easy to avoid getting sniped, u can avoid it for years, simply keep the GB locked only unlock next level when u load it and only out in enough for P1 then u add more and do the others when they are safe, ideally you want to do all spots at the same time as snipers wont have time to steal any spot and also it benefits the donors as they get their investment back and can spend it again to make more blueprints and FPs etc. having someone dumpinG Fps that u benfit from on your Gbs is usually welcomed so no sniping. Do not whine if you dont want peopel dump FP son your GB at all dont unlock new levels! its not rocket science, just follow this advice and sniping wont be an issue and u can send a finger to the snipers. i want to be clear if any spot isnt lockable at the ratio you post that Gb (undeprimed) you that is the GB owners fault and they have to pay up if they lose FPs. Get your numbers right and sniping is a non issue. i want to say there is ONE exception : within a guild you can not take a spot someone already called, as it can cause someoen to lose a ton of Fps and you could get kicked, out of the guild..do NEVER EVER SNIPE a guildmate especially if the GB spot is already taken. taking a spot and not calling it is NOT sniping its THEFT and you will be punished.
Self-levelers are the best Friends to have.
It's great to have actual friends, game-mentors, other people you enjoy, also...but YES! Self-levelers make awesome friends :)
I found it more profitable to only "snipe" the lone wolf players that prime their GBs heavily because they aren't using 1.9s for whatever reason... Most of them are glad for the "snipe" contribution, in which case it is a mutually beneficial arrangement....so I just scan the neighborhood for any such players whenever new neighbors are brought in, and then I send a friend invite. This way I end up "sniping" a good portion of my friend list because they want me to. It's a win win profitable situation.
Exactly. This is the way. If you haven't seen it, check out my video on this topic ua-cam.com/video/Zyk0mFOnbGg/v-deo.htmlsi=oxaZFKoJbfLGw71b
Thanks for the comment!
Amen.
My bottom line is: If you are mad I put FP on your building, come put some on mine!! That will teach me!
That's one way to think about it! Hey, thanks for watching.
Many guilds have strict rules concerning when and how FPs can be added to GBs…obviously outsiders cannot be held to those rules but then the definition of sniping can be different within that guild than it is outside.
Great point! Thanks for watching and weighing in.
Love it, a few videos in and you’re talking about the ethics of sniping! Such a unique channel and view of the game, really enjoy your videos.
As for the topic, sniping 1 and 2 at the sweet spot for GBs (like 30s for Arc) for profit when someone clearly uses a 1.9 thread regularly (look at the previous few levels) is the unethical part for me. You have sufficient info here that it’s very likely to be unwelcome. That’s much different to helping self levellers. But agree that we control our response, no point getting upset, take steps to avoid it next time or msg the person. Like the way you added that perspective at the end.
Thank you for weighing in. I'm so glad that you have enjoyed the videos and it made me feel especially good that you used the word unique to describe the channel. You have a great attitude about playing the game. The game needs alot more players like you~!
Every time my neighbourhood changes I spend a decent amount of time checking out how much I can tax them.
I rarely leave my GBs in a position to be sniped. I do however ask friends to outbid those who foolishly attempt to make a bad snipe, well they have to learn. If I’m going to delete a GB I will leave it open and when I’ve caught enough snipers I will delete it. Another lesson.
Sniping is a fun feature of the game that would be very difficult to do if people knew what they were doing.
Thanks for watching - great comment. I like how you describe it as a "fun" element of the game. I mean...it can be....it makes it interesting! lol
What's frustrating about regular sniping... I don't mind loosing a couple of hundreds of fps once in a while, neither do I think it's incredibly worthy for the sniping player, unless he has a huge arc... what's much worse is, that it makes it much more stressful to level your buildings, because you have to put in points again and put it in the 1,9x thread and then when you do the harvest the level is not even finished and you have to think where else to invest your harvest... sniping each other is just a lose-lose situation... what's cool ist sniping people who don't bother using a 1,9x leveling threat, because that's a win-win situation...
and honestly, when I get sniped by someone with an 180 arc I think, "well at least it was profitable for him, his actions make sense, having extra work for a benefit of 500 fps, that's understandable", but getting sniped by players with a tiny ass arc and having all the extra work for him to gain ~50 fps... it's so pointless... why making the experience for all players so much more stressful without even having a real benefit? I hate this attitude fr... like when you have a neighbour who steals your deliveries once in a while... it's not about the financial loss, it's about having to reorganize my life because of that stupid a hole... those snipers are shitty people with disgusting personalities, those people make life more stressful for everybody around them for absolutely no reason, and in the end no one wins because no my deliveries are sent somewhere else, all that complications for nothing... no these thieves have no opportunity t steal from me, they won nothing, but I have extra complications with every. single. delivery. i get. and look, when a junkie tries to steal something from me that's understandable, he is desperate and has no other chance to get his supply and he can't handle his situation otherwise and I let it go.... but if anyone else does it, someone without a good reason... once I catched an asshole who tried to steal something out of my yard, I asked him why he did it, and he had absolutely no good reason... but I made him pay with his health, because I don't tolerate this shit, those people are responsible that the world is the mess that it is... and when I get the chance to make them pay for it I will always do it... I still remember the sound of his nose crack... music in my ears, fuck yeah ... there's no excuse for these peoples behavior, making the world a worse place for absolutely no reason, fucking disgusting... they would kill their old neighbors for a cold sandwich, if they knew they would get away with it (they would'nt and that's the only reason, why they don't pull it off), that's exactly the attitude... same type of people, that's a fact... these cowards just don't have the balls to do this shit in real life, but it's exactly the same attitude, so. fucking. disgusting.
I haven't sniped for awhile but found it a useful tool as I was building my world(s)...a really good way to get extra BPs and FPs. If someone leaves their GB open to sniping...that's on them.
I never worry on the few occasions that I have been sniped...it's only a game and you're not actually losing anything real.
Great comment! Healthy perspective on the game. Thank you for watching.
I think it's funny that people consider it unethical, the "sniper" is contributing to your great building, the only thing they are "stealing" is your ability to have artificially favorable contributions through a 1.9 or higher thread.
Great comment! Makes sense. Thanks for checking out the video!@@NondescriptMammal
I love sniping . I have a level 180 arc and it feeds my other gbs and a good healthy fp bank for the guild. Just about 5k in fps a day from hunting . Changed the game really . I’m a long time player. Since 2013
Congrats on the level 180 Arc - that is incredibly impressive. I really appreciate having someone who has played for 11 years watching my videos. Thank you!
Isn't there a limit to how many FPs are useful in the game? What is there to do with FPs at endgame, besides use them to get more FPs?
I use the fps to push my cf to higher levels. Since I am in SAT and those great buildings require more goods the higher I level the cf the more goods it gives me on recurring quests. I get 51 a flip now. Between SAT and cf that’s where my fps go.
As someone who just played this game on and off, it's really great to find someone to explain the more advanced mechanics. The friends video was great and this one is too!
I really appreciate the encouragement. Sometimes it's hard to tell if anyone gives a crap about these things I am talking about!
for me for it to be "sniping" a GB it has to be :
a .a GB that has spots open but 1 or more spots are not taken yet ,and someone who has not been approved by the owner, takes a spot below the ratio the owner want the spots to be taken at costing the owner Fps, as if it was taken at the ratio they wanted, the would saved more FPs isntead it becomes a FP loss sometimes for both owner and sometimes other players (if they got overtaken).
b. the "sniping"player benefits from the action as they are making more FPs than they invested based on their Arc, it can be little or alot based on other factors (type of GB, level, age of GB higher age cost more Fps so more profit potential if sniped). Profit alone, do not equal "sniping", both a loss (below expected ratio) for the owner and profit (above their Arc bonus)for the donor wich is unapproved by the owner is needed.
I absolutely agree with your assessment that "Profit alone, do not equal sniping". I mean, a profitable drop on a GB could be mutually beneficial and then everyone is happy!
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
I think the main ethical question regarding sniping is actually when you snipe a spot in a GB that has clearly been leveling with a swap thread. The annoying thing about that is that you're not actually hurting the person you're doing this to, you're hurting the other participants of the swap. Imagine if you post a GB in a swap, and then after that you post it in a 1.9, to have people add specific numbers of fp to secure spots. That would obviously be hugely unethical: the very concept of a swap thread presupposes that as the GB owner you would not sollicit any other fp contributions than the swaps, to ensure that people have a chance of extra reward for their swap. Sniping rarely, if ever, harms the snipee, rather it can harm the guild members of the snipee.
Great comment - thanks for sharing. Interesting perspective, although I have always viewed swap threads as not really having any sort of obligation tied to it, other than adding the correct swap amount. In other words, since it does not guarantee a position the way a 1.9X does, then it's really just quite random where people end up when it flips. Overall, I would not recommend swap threads for this reason, as you are leaving it to chance what kind of return you get on your investment. I think what you are talking about depends on the specific expectations that a guild might have for a swap thread, if the swap is primarily for use by the guild. Different might guilds have different expectations. Appreciate you watching the video and sharing your thoughts,
@@BardoFarkins oh I agree that swaps are a worse system than 1.9. However, the outcome isn't exactly random (in fact, it almost might be better if it *were* random), there are ways in which it can be predictable, and also, if you snipe or if the GB owner puts the building in a 1.9 afterwards, it's definitely not random, you know that spots that "belonged" to swap contributors would be taken up for sure!
My definition of sniping has two components:
1. Investing forgepoints in a LB without the consent of the owner.
2. With the main intanton to receive more FP than invested.
Thanks for watching and sharing. Can't argue with that.
My FL is 95% with selflevellers. As soon as I see them dropping points on their gbs, I lock a position and take profit. I avoid sniping GBs when they are at their sweet spots unless the owner has dropped points. When I receive message to top up my contribution to 1.9 level, I do it and delete the person from FL.
Usually those that overprime their buildings get mad about sniping. Honestly, they are the Karens of FOE. If you are so worried about getting a certain amount of FP, prime your GBs correctly. As I don't want to waste my time on replying someone mentally underdeveloped, I just continue my day like nothing has happened.
I'm totally ok if I get sniped. It's my responsibility to make sure I secure positions to receive 1.9x contributions. Though, I've been sniped less than dozen of times.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it.
I believe this is the way. Nicely said.
And thanks alot for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
You know what really gets my goat... is when they refuse to level that GB because you're on it! I've had playes hold my FP's hostage or month's... I've watched them start leveling other GB's out of spite!
I hate to say it, but since we're being truthful... I wait until I can flip their GB, and I flip it!... because this is just a game, and no one should be blowing fuses over it.... Respectfully...
@@theknubianknight Yeah, that really sucks....especially when you put hundreds on it! Or they simply stop playing and you are stuck and just OUT those fps.
This is why I only drop fps on players that WANT me to do it and are active players. Otherwise they might get pissed and refuse to level it! - Which mainly will hurt them in the long run.
Great comment - thanks!
If you don't want to get sniped . Preload the amounts needed to secure them first .
Yep....it's pretty simple really. Thanks for the comment.
@@BardoFarkins Nonsense. If you snipe someone using a 1.9 thread, it's your decision, and your fault for a dickish move, not theirs. "If you don't want to get shot and robbed, then wear a bulletproof vest! It's pretty simple really!" How can you guys blame someone else for getting shot when it's YOU pulling the trigger??? You're fooling yourselves to justify selfish-AF behaviour.
@@johnyoung2705 thanks for your comment. exactly. those people would kill their neighbor for a cold sandwich, if they knew they would get away with it. (fortunately they dont, so they dont have the balls to pull this shit off in real life)
fucking a holes creating lose-lose situations for everybody, making the world a worse place for everybody for absolutely no good reason.
Thanks for another interesting and original video. I am close to some thought as shared here. For me an essential thing is that the game remains a good entertainment with positive emotions. Therefore I avoid severe conflicts about such a silly thing as virtual „forge point”: if a snipped one shows one’s anger, I settle it down with adding the fp to the 1.9 balance without deliberating much. If no reactions to my snipe - I feel good enough, because I do not feel responsible for teaching anyone how to optimise the game - it is also one’s choice not to even write a short message to me, asking for adding missing FP. I know it does not solve the „ethic issue”, because there are certainly snipped ones who are timid to interact with the sniper, yet taking it with a pain etc. - but here it comes what you say at the end of the video: it is just the game, with its competitive part. It is not a savoir-vivre competition.
A separate interesting issue is, however, how we react to being snipped😉 I am never happy when it comes, of course, but I learnt how to take my responsibility and accept. Also, it happened to me to write a short message to a sniper (a polite one, with some sense of humour) - and the reaction was usually positive.
Cannot wait for the next video🤩👍
Great comment! I love your attitude about the game. I'm like you....if I ever snipe someone who is on a 1.9 thread and I did not realize it, and they bring it to my attention, I always offer to make up the difference maybe add a bit for for the headache. Thank you for joining the conversation and I appreciate your perspective and your support.
@@BardoFarkins thank you for your appreciation
Kinda thought we were going to get a good how-to video.
Thanks for watching! Follow this link for a video that is more along the lines of a how-to for sniping: ua-cam.com/video/xER7MHKOs1c/v-deo.htmlsi=pejkFCXX8X2a3aAV In this video I summarize FoE Info and demonstrate how it has a really great tool that can be used to invest in other's GB's for significant forge point returns. Cheers!
I acquire 5000 - 6000 FPs a day from collections and more when fighting or doing GE, so they have to go somewhere and I don't always have a GB ready to level, so I snipe my neighborhood only, never my friends list. If you leave open a GB with a 50+ FP profit, you should expect to get sniped. I hate people who only play offense, but never defense and get mad when someone scores on them. I learned the hard way. I have been sniped several times and had people cheating me on swap threads. No more. I defend my GBs and my city as well.
I have over 75,000 FPs sitting on GBs and some have been there for years and I will never get them back. I used to use swap threads and thought a 1 FP investment on GBs may luck into a payout, so I have 1 FP on hundreds of GBs from years ago that are just dead to me.
There are several ways to secure your GBs from sniping and if you don't use them, you cannot blame anyone for getting sniped except yourself.
Also, a 1.9 thread is just that, a 1.9 thread. If I put 1.9 on that is all I need to do. I do NOT need to put more on because I have a higher ARC. I can if I want, but I do NOT have to. If you are in a 1.9 MINIMUM thread, then maybe, but NOT on a straight 1.9 thread. I was thrown out of a 1.9 thread for only contributing 1.9 when I had a level 82 ARC. People look for ways to be offended in the real world and that is bad enough, but in a GAME?!? Get real. If I follow the rules and you get offended, that is on YOU not me.
Great comment and perspectives. Thanks for sharing!
Bardo, great work!! (wheels2, in-game)
Awesome - one of my in-game friends! Thanks for checking it out and dropping a note.
En général , je ne snipe pas, mais il m'arrive de le faire "contre mon gré". C'est à dire qu'il m'arrive d'avoir des pf à distribuer à ceux qui m'aide (poli/motiver). Je regarde s'ils ont des places de disponible sur leur GM et parfois ils ont trop posé de PF et ce qui reste à poser est parfois bien inférieur à la valeur réelle des places. Dans ce cas, même en posant le maximum (tout en laissant suffisamment de PF disponible pour les places inférieures), j'y gagne énormément. D'autre fois c'est moi qui me fait sniper et j'ai horreur de ça car bien souvent ça ne vient pas d'un petit joueur qui essaye de gratter quelques PF deci delà, mais de gros joueurs ayant de très grosses arches qui peuvent largement se permettre de poser au taux 1.90 ou 1.93. Et du coup, c'est à moi de rajouter des pf. Bien entendu je ne snipe pas mes amis, seulement mon voisinage et seulement "contre mon gré", sinon je pose toujours à 1.90 ou plus selon le joueur. Je n'ai pas la mentalité d'un rat, mais plutôt d'une bonne fée.
Sniping is when you take a position in such a way that another player is pushed down to a place they then have overpaid for. I.e. it's not something you do to the owner of the GB. The owner may even be quite happy with your contribution, but the pushed-down player will not be. But if they underpaid for the position that you took, it's their own fault.
I only 'snipe' (though I don't consider it sniping at all) self-levelers and people who use swap threads. I consider sniping on GBs whose owners use 1.9 threads unethical, so I don't do it, unless I'm getting revenge on someone who has done that to me first. Also, I ALWAYS secure the spots before asking for them when leveling up my GBs. I wish everyone in my guild was like that, but unfortunately, many aren't
Couldn't have said it better myself. I feel the same way 100%. Great comment and thanks for watching and engaging!
If I see a nice profit opportunity, I scroll back through their previous levels. If it looks like they are filling close to 1.9, i'll back off, but if there are vacant FP spots going unclaimed, i'm all over it.
Also, for self-levelers getting hit by well known snipers, sometimes a courtesy note to building owner offering significantly more than what they were sniped for(but still profitable for you) can be a win/win/win. Helps you, helps building owner, agitating a cheapo sniper. My message will be along the lines of "offering### fp for top spot when you get to ### FP.
I often do as you have said. Take a look a the last few levels to see if they are a player that does 1.9's. If not, and if they are active (which, you can see here foe.scoredb.io/US11/Players ) then go for the snipe. If they contact you and are pissed, you can always add enough to make it 1.9 or whatever they expect. Thanks for weighing in with a great comment.
what do u do with FP when u are stuck on your next advance.....all your Great Buildings are full and you cant collect a whole city worth of stuff cos your full of FP????? asking for a friend.....I just put them on friends GB,,,,,didnt know I was doing anything wrong.
There are a few options. But in my opinion the best option is to be on a 1.9 thread when you can quickly dump large amounts of FP on a friends GB and then it will quickly convert into your forge point bank when the building levels. Or, of course, if you have a high level Arc you can just go sniping. It's always important to have some quick options available at all times to dump your FPs, especially after collecting your city or after a successful GbG session.
Whatever you do with your FPs (short of just not playing or staying just completely to yourself) you piss somebody off. People cannot give a consistent definition of “sniping” and since some of the definitions are mutually contradictory- thus you can’t do anything with your FPs without pissing somebody off. And it seems that 1.9 guilds attract angry people (there’s plenty of polite and helpful people in 1.9 guilds as well - but you never see folks outside of 1.9 guilds getting irrationally mad and being unable/unwilling to talk it out).
Thanks for weighing in and sharing these thoughts. In my next video I will talk about how I carefully craft my friends list so that I hardly ever piss anyone off with how I drop FP's on their buildings. If you have a friends list full of self levelers and swappers, then they welcome anything you ever put on there..well, except for leveling it when they are planning to "double-dip" their collection. My guild experience might be different than yours. We have about 80 members of everyday active players and we utilize various 1.9X threads quickly, efficiently and very generously - as folks often put way more that what is required just to be extra helpful in building each other up. So between having a great guild and an active friends list of self levelers, I manage to very rarely piss anyone off! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your perspective - good luck!
i am a self levveller and do indeed BEG people to put FPs on my GBs...i cant be bothered with all this 1.9 thread shit or whatever its called...far too complicated for me)
....and there is nothing wrong with playing that way. Many successful players do and enjoy the game just fine. Thanks for sharing!
Don't gripe about getting Free Fps .
Here's a clue for everyone to remember.
Those who do the best possible work get the best possible rewards.
Ask before placing Fps on anyone's Gbs. Stop complaining , and enjoy the time we get to spend with each other.
Thanks for the words of wisdom! Appreciate you watching the video and weighing in.
I'm new to game and I didn't know what the rules/ courtesy. I had 100 forge points to use so I thought I'd be nice and give all my friends 1 point each on there gb. Is this sniping? I relies later that this is a good way to get blueprints/medals so i still do it. I got only 2 people saying 'you didn't ask for my permission'. I'm thinking whats the big deal?
IMO? There are just some folks out there who can't even enjoy a game - that includes the feature of allowing anyone to contribute FPs to anyone else - without getting even more angry. Lighten up, cranky people - it's a GAME.
Good perspective - thanks for watching!
This is really a game of war... The building effects are their for mom and pop, therefore, no one should be geeting angry,... and low and behold, they are holding your forge points hostage
Thank you for checking out my video. Cheers!
What is the side bar beside your browser?
It's a Chrome extension I use called FoE Info. Here is a link: chromewebstore.google.com/detail/foe-info/clifeblhbipgjjlngahknaagkkikfhmo
It works well for me and seems to be safe. Thanks for watching!
You may have noticed that I put together a video on it. Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/xER7MHKOs1c/v-deo.htmlsi=LtejmtmeTDPGv5N_
Started playing back when colonial age was the top, took a break and came back after some years. Hated sniping when people were doing it to me, then loved it when I was able to do it myself even on really high level GBs when their owners would put too many of their own FPs or someone adding points to their GB was off in their math. But now, when I have a really healthy amount of FPs save up for any rainy day? Just do it to people who'd be willing to write me up a rude message because I attacked them and plundered some money or tools.
Other than that? From a certain point, most people just get too lazy to snipe as you're drowning in FPs and at the same time leveling higher levels of GBs takes a while anyway. At least that's the case for my world and the snipers are well known and people lock their GBs whenever they have said snipers in their neighbourhoods.
Great vid! 👍
I agree with you. It's interesting how your perspective changed over time as you evolved in the game. Thanks for sharing!
If a GB position is NOT LOCKED then it is available to be taken if you do not have an agreement with the GB owner or the guild. So with this in mind there is no such thing as sniping but it used by players to try to control what other players do in the game which is kind of narcissistic. To many players do not add enough FP to there GB so contributors can lock the position at least at 1.9. We all need to play according to the game's mechanics. I add the 1.9 FPs so my GB positions can be taken locked before I post them so contributors feel secure and will continue to donate over and over. I also find my buildings get leveled every day or 2 at the most. I use the seed formular of: Total FP to level the GB minus (P1 basic reward X 1.9 X2) = the seed FB amount you need to add to Gb so 1.9 contributions to P1 and P2 will be locked. And after P1 and P2 are taken the owner needs to add more FPs to match the 1.9 rewards. ( Total Leveling FP amount minus (2 X the total 1.9 reward of that position)). EASY PEASY
I your property in rl is not locked, then it is available to be taken... think about it. and delete your stupid comment, its fucking bullcrap
Ethical?!?!? It's a freaking game. Have fun.
Lol-thanks for watching!
I don't mind if they snipe if I'm lvling via swap threads, it annoys me if they snipe during a 1.9
Yep, that is when it can really suck! I suggest making sure that you are "priming" for each position on a 1.9 before posting. It takes extra time, but it drastically reduces sniping situations/opportunities. Thanks for watching and sharing!
@@BardoFarkins yes it takes time, so everybody takes extra time even tho noone wants to do that, and in the end noone can snipe... if everybody would stop that bs everyone would have a better experience in the game... but there are too many assholes out there... that's why the world is such a terrible mess, some people have such a shitty personality, they would kill their neighbors for a cold sandwitch if they knew they would get away with it (fortunately they don't) those peole which is the same kind of people as snipers they are the worst not even people they are just filth... fucking disgusting
I just give a min of 1.9 on all gb's i come across that i need BP's for.
That tends to work out well for everyone. Especially if your Arc is significantly over 80.
The simple definition of theft is: “Taking something without consent or permission”. Unless one sends a PM to the GB owner asking if they can donate to their GB. Then they stole (Sniped) it. As they did so without consent or permission.
To dishonestly appropriate the property of another with the intention to permanently deprive. You have to prove all elements in law. There are no laws concerning this game, it’s a feature of the game.
First off, thanks for checking out the video! I'm not sure though, that you can call sniping theft. The forge points that the sniper ends up with were never the property of anyone. I think it's fair to pose the question of ethics when it come to sniping - that can be debated, I believe. But to call it theft I don't believe is quite accurate, because the items "Stolen" were never the property of the GB owner. It's a great debate, though!
@@BardoFarkins Indeed the owner of the GB doesn't own the spots.
Sniping is just another strategy and depending on how far you take it the more unetically but also the more profitable it gets … Everybody just has to choose their own point where to stop …
Well said! Thanks for watching 👍
I have played the game for ten years now and have been sniped and have sniped others. The only times I ever really got irked by someone sniping was like for instance lets say I see a person in my neighborhood leveling a building and for maybe weeks I would level it up slowly with what fps I earned daily and think ok surely I'll end up with a top 3 because no other soul has even touched the building and then you wake up one morning to find people out of nowhere just descended upon the building with thousands of fps and now you are like 4th or 5th place so the effort you put into it feels so worthless to you because maybe you donated 1500 fps and you end up winning 25 fps and getting 6 or 7 bps. Most of those emotions for me was when I was a low level player just starting out and trying to become one of the big shots in the guild or the neighborhood who could play the game however they wanted. I just accepted at the beginning that I wouldn't ever finish 1st or 2nd on any high level gbs and focused on 3rd and 4th or 1st and 2nd on mid level gbs I could afford to be aggressive with so I gained decent rewards gained fps and bps until I achieved a nest egg that could compete with just about anyone in my neighborhood or guild that I wanted to. Now I play the game the way I want to so for the most part I swap with a few close friends to level up buildings I desire to enrich my city whether that be with more fps in my nest egg or more bps to continue increasing the levels to my important gbs. Its nice to have reached a point in the game that I can let my mood direct how I will play any given day.
Thanks for weighing in and sharing this perspective. I love your healthy approach to the game!
If you don't secure your GB positions and there is an advantage to me - then I will snipe. If your low era and/or low on the leader board I don't snipe.
Sounds very fair to me...thanks for watching.
That is an interesting option on sniping
Thanks for checking out the video!
Sniping doesn't bother me, intentionally flipping a great building multiple times bothers me.
Yeah....that sucks! Thanks for watching.
i don't care about sniper, it's my responsibility to secure spot on my GB if i don't want to get sniped
It's true! Thanks for watching - good luck!
Hello. They call Sniper King. 😄 I made the last year arround 300.000 with only sniping.
Sounds like you deserve the title! What level is your Arc? Thanks for watching and sharing.
@@BardoFarkins My ark is currently only at level 131 and I've been playing very little for the last three years. I usually only play for a month and then take a break for 6-9 months. My tactics are based on sniping as many FP as possible as quickly as possible. As it takes a while to level up the buildings, this fits in with the breaks. I have 16k in the graveyard, which are buildings that will probably never be leveled again. Otherwise I have made a profit of around 360k. Since I take such long breaks and I was a Pay2Win player back then, the game offers me 10000 diamonds at some point when I play again.
That's why I currently have 22000 diamonds and in december when I take another break maybe 32,000 :)
@@BardoFarkins in Addition ; When I snipe, I am even more precise. I don't have a fixed clan, so I can jump around. I also use the leaderboard. There you can sort what you want to search for and send requests directly to these people. :)
“Sniping” is the failure of the GB owner to properly coordinate with other players in time to collect positions 1-5…
That's a pretty good way to put it, too! Thanks for watching, appreciate it!
In essence ethics has nothing to do with it. It is simple, each player is responsible for their GB and no one should complain if they get get any open GBs sniped if they have not done all that they can do to protect their gb and secured their positions. And as many others have said, if I get sniped....I do not fault the sniper but rather myself for not making sure all the positions are secure.
You've made such a reasonable and well-stated narrative here. Thank you for watching and weighing in.
Everyone will always be in favor of sniping but i still disagree with it and personally will never do it. Most responses are akin to "well they failed to properly prime buildings so I'm justified". It's the same logic as "well he left his bike on his front lawn so it's totally fine for me to steal it.
That certainly is an understandable analogy!
Again, my thing is that it comes down to whether the action is welcome or not. To me, it's not sniping if the receiving party wants you to do it.
With your example, if someone puts their bike out by the road and tells people in the neighborhood to take it if they want it, and then someone takes it, then everyone is happy.
I appreciate you watching the videos and weighing in with a great analogy.
@@BardoFarkins if someone wants you to do it, it shouldn't be considered sniping. you are just helping them level their building at that point. I just heavily disagree with the toxic attitude of "you get what you deserve for being stupid" that a lot of people take towards sniping. if people would just say hey, I'm just playing the game within the rules and what benefits me most, that I can agree with. great video though. Looking forward to more content.
Totally get it....and I certainly tend to agree with you. At the same time, I do think folks should remember that there is alot they can do to prevent it. It stinks that people have to lock their bikes up, for sure! @@angelfury8182
Sniping is one of the oldest parts of the game. In fact it's almost encouraged right from the first stages of the game in Bronze/Iron Age. You (should) very quickly figure out at the start of the game that the way to build your FP bank is to take spots on other people's GBs where you make back more than you invest, so you can then either invest the profit into your own GBs or reinvest the profit into other GBs to make more profit - basic capitalism. Back in Iron Age, this isn't seen as "sniping" - it's positive investment and accepted practice. The issue comes with the concept of 1.9. Many people in the game see the 1.9 rate as the accepted, even mandated, way of investing in GBs, regardless of whether they use this method or not themselves.
This leads to how I would define sniping (or at least my own in game actions) - "Sniping is the process of investing in GBs to generate a return bigger than the investment". That's it, no ethics, no maliciousness, just simply profiteering. In that regard, I kind of agree with one of the comments in the video that 1.9 threads are a form of regulated sniping - you've got an Arc above 80, you invest at 1.9, you make profit. But this is the way of the game, it's essentially a game of capitalism where you need to generate currency from somewhere to keep your own city moving forwards. High level Arcs investing in other GBs, generating profit, is what real world banks do to generate profit after all.
Going back to my own activities, my usual Monday morning fortnightly activity following hood change (like today) is to go through my hood and snipe whomever I can. If I can see someone is a 1.9 based player I'll take a precursory look, but generally move on through the hood. If positions on a player's GB are available to be taken and are unsecured to 1.9 amounts, they're fair game for my investment. If a player wants 1.9 investment, they need to secure that GB so the positions aren't profitable at less than 1.9 investment. If the player messages me and asks me to top up to 1.9, then I will. If they don't ask, they don't get, so I take whatever profit my investment is entitled to, without any further thoughts. Only on a couple of occasions have I received an abusive message (most recently three weeks ago) following my "sniping" investment. I simply ignored the message and proceeded to snipe them further throughout the fortnight. Had they been courteous and asked me to top up, I would have done and subsequently left them alone. Sniping, ultimately, is the fault of the GB owner, not the investor.
Incidentally, I found a start up FoE UA-cam channel last week, where they discuss sniping, and in nowhere near the level of detail or with the reason you have here. They've got a very young city and in their attempt to block a sniper on their level 2 LoA, who sniped them for the princely sum of 2FPs (an investment of 8FPs on a 10FP payout), they simply deleted the LoA as a way to "teach the sniper a lesson"! I laughed whilst watching it. They completely ignored the fact that this process cost them the best part of 100FPs in order to get the LoA to near the end of level 2, and a full set of prints to build the thing in the first place. I did comment on the video along these lines, but they've not bothered to reply to me. Their loss I guess.
Also, your intro is a lot better where you do a bit of talking before launching into your theme tune. Much better than just going straight into the music unannounced
Thanks for sharing your commentary. I really like how you simplified it. Well stated!
Oh, and I especially appreciate the feedback about the Into. I am trying to shorten it and get right into things as quickly as possible. Thanks for the support!
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I am a guild hopper
sniping is not needed because so many GB's are so far out of wack
it is the owners respondablity not to be sniped
Thanks for the sub...Sometimes I think it would be interesting to take a hiatus from my guild just to hop around a bit and get to know more players that way - and learn about other methods and techniques for doing things. Thanks for being a returning viewer and subscriber. I appreciate you!
I think you should give it a try you would be suprized on how many people put up unfair trades how many guilds dont have 1.9 threads and how many people self point where sometimes 100's of FP are left on the table once you have FoETools no one should have a GB that is snipable its just a matter of math there is a chance at being sniped before it gets taken in the 1.9 thread but usally delt with quicky and life goes on you gave an excellant videoi have been playing for 7 years and this is my 4th time starting from Bronze Age@@BardoFarkins
I'm really glad you liked the video, especially since you have been playing for so long and you know what your talking about! I'm sure stating a new city gives us a new perspective, especially if we have been playing a long time.
Sniping to me is minimum fp investment for maximum reward, it is bad play to put too many fps on any of their GB's. *If you went into a store and see something at a discount, would you pay the full price*
That's a good analogy!
Good getting free fps, as long as they don’t level your building
Yeah, that can be super-annoying! Thanks for watching.
The magic that is leaving a conversation that an angry gb owner started because they cannot be bothered to learn something as basic as 1.9 lmao. Like if you don't want to learn how to avoid getting sniped then expect get rekt kid lol
Right...I mean, people need to understand that there are things they can do to avoid being sniped! It's not like there is nothing they can do about it. Thanks for the comment.
Sniping is stealing of fps from unsuspecting players who just want to advance their gb without getting sniped. Sniping is loop hole players use to take advantage of lower ranked players. I think sniping should be banned from the game it an unfair tactic... First time viewer love the channel keep up the good work. I have future era city and long time fan of the foe gaming platform
😂 sniping is the old thing in the game Bro, total Fair
I'm glad that you are digging the channel! I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. As a fellow Future Era dweller - good luck and let's enjoy those Hovers!
Thanks for the comment. It is a mechanic of the game and it can be avoided - well, most of the time!
If you didn't lock it, you didn't want it. Secure your gbs and they are impossible to snipe. Basically, it's your fault. Sounds harsh, but it's the truth.
Great comment - well said @@RussW. Thanks for watching and sharing.
is this roller coaster tycoon?
Haha - it's been a couple of decades since I played Roller Coaster Tycoon and I can't really remember the mechanics.
What do you mean? Thanks for watching!
dont be upset if u are taken advantage off due to your own ignorance -
its se easy to avoid getting sniped, u can avoid it for years, simply keep the GB locked only unlock next level when u load it and only out in enough for P1 then u add more and do the others when they are safe, ideally you want to do all spots at the same time as snipers wont have time to steal any spot and also it benefits the donors as they get their investment back and can spend it again to make more blueprints and FPs etc. having someone dumpinG Fps that u benfit from on your Gbs is usually welcomed so no sniping.
Do not whine if you dont want peopel dump FP son your GB at all dont unlock new levels!
its not rocket science, just follow this advice and sniping wont be an issue and u can send a finger to the snipers. i want to be clear if any spot isnt lockable at the ratio you post that Gb (undeprimed) you that is the GB owners fault and they have to pay up if they lose FPs. Get your numbers right and sniping is a non issue.
i want to say there is ONE exception : within a guild you can not take a spot someone already called, as it can cause someoen to lose a ton of Fps and you could get kicked, out of the guild..do NEVER EVER SNIPE a guildmate especially if the GB spot is already taken. taking a spot and not calling it is NOT sniping its THEFT and you will be punished.
Really good thoughts! Thank you for weighing in. Alot of wisdom going on in this comment. Some hard truths shared.
Appreciate you watching.