Ok people, let's not argue about comparing and contrasting J-pop/K-pop. Let's just either enjoy or not enjoy, and if you don't like it just move on. It's as simple as that!
Tetsuya Komuro is the producer that defined what we know now as J-Pop, and the name "trf" comes from "Tetsuya Rave Factory". Back to the K-Pop discussion, you don't have to be included into the "young crowd" (sorry if I offended you btw), my point isn't meant to start a fight or something. The K-Pop idols have amazing dancing and vocal skills, that's undeniable. But when it comes to a group that has been active since 1992 (!), it's just amazing to watch them perform like if they were teenagers.
It may be probably boring for the young crowd, but for those of us young adults who grew up with Tetsuya Komuro's music (and that involves trf, globe, Namie Amuro, hitomi, and many others), this is incredibly nostalgic.
1.Why isnt this in HQ, avexnetwork? 2. This is way better then the original version. 3. First time i see a vid this different from a japanese artist, GJ!
kpop is more materialistic and commercilized than jpop....... dancers in jpop industry are very different .... a lot of them are proffesional dancers in hip hop (like EXILE tribe members) house( like sam from trf) or locking (Kenzo from da pump)
Young crowd? I'm not a kid, thanks. Probably older than you. In any case, I'm not big on Japanese pop, so I have no idea who Komuro is. Just don't appreciate random digs on Korean pop, so I decided to share my thoughts on this particular song. I do like TM Revolution and some other J-Pop. so I'm not a hater or anything. Only annoyed that a person would say a single group is better than an entire industry, probably without having seen any good dancers from K-Pop groups.
The pop industry in general is materialistic and commercialized. That's the case in Japan as well as Korea, and America, and Europe, etc. That's the nature of the genre. Also, there are plenty of sincere songs in the Korean pop industry. The catchier songs are usually the ones promoted, but there are always sincere, heart-warming slower songs (Someday by U-KISS, for example). I also find it quite telling that fair criticism is received so negatively. Without translation, all I hear is flat vocal
There are also many professional dancers in K-Pop, like Jay Park and Hyunseung (B2ST) for hip-hop, and Joon (MBLAQ) for ballet, off the top of my head. There's also many group members that were discovered through dance competition and/or excel at it to a professional level, like Yunho of DBSK, Eunhyuk of Super Junior, Taemin of SHINee, Kiseop of U-KISS, Changbum of 100%, Zelo of BAP, Bi Rain, etc. Essentially every group has at least one dancer of that level. It's not as different as you think.
That's because most of the dancers in EXILE tribe only dance. They're just visual and don't actually do any singing. That kind of thing doesn't really exist in KPop. All the members in those groups sing and dance...at the same time for live performances. (Sometimes lipsyncing for more complicated choreography, but mostly live.) The choreography can only be so difficult because they have to sing as well. Also, there are many KPop singers who were also professional dancers before being discovered.
微妙う～ its not bad but its not that good either.The dancers are great and some parts are cool but i hate how they have black background with black clothes. you cant see the dancers properly. the choreo is pretty boring aswell. sure they incorporated different styles like hiphop, house, locking into their dance but they werent that special.
Perhaps some, but the song is incredibly flat overall and the vocals are bland. As a dance video it is fairly cool, but the song is just incredibly boring.
小室さんがひとたび本気になれば、瞬時に世の中の景色は一変してしまう。
凄まじい破壊力を秘めた方です。
今世紀入って一番かっこいいと思ったMV。
trfと小室さんのプライドを感じさせる素晴らしい作品だと思います。
邦楽でだってこんな音楽が聴きたいし見たいよ～！！！
ビートの分厚さ、音のでかさから小室がどれだけ気合い入ってるかが分かる。Yu-kiのパワフルな歌声、コーちゃんの昔ながらのMC、熱いダンサー陣。全員の気合いが感じられる作品ですね。
それにしてもSamさんのダンス、、、、神が降りて来てる！
２０代の始まりがtrfでした。毎週のようにカラオケに行き、毎月のようにクラブイベントに通った頃を思い出します。そして、TKプロデュースでのtrfの曲を聴くと、やっぱり自然とテンション上がりますね。
すごい。人としての色気が半端じゃないです。なんだろうこの重厚感。まばたき忘れてみいってしまいました。
本当に同じ人間なのか疑ってしまう。ＳＡＭさんＣＨＩＨＡＲＵさんＥＴＳＵさん。なんでそんなに動けるの？日ごろの練習だけじゃないよね。きっと宇宙人なんだろう。
羨ましいかぎりです。がんばれｔｒｆ。
trfと小室哲哉の相性ってやっぱイケテルと思う。trf + Tetsuya Komuro teamed up once again in 16years. Their chemistry is not deniable, awesome!!!
40代とか、50代で、この体の切れの良さには脱帽！！
スタードラフト会議に出てたダンサーさん達がいますね。
Da Pump KENZOと、SAMのシーンもかっこいい。
ダンスはできればHDで見たい。
もっと多くの人に見て欲しいな
とにかく凄い！ 何度もリピしちゃったぁ カッケー (*^^)v
どっかのダンスグループが恥ずかしくなるくらい凄いな、、、
CD購入しようか迷ってる人は買って後悔しない内容。あの頃、trfの曲をバックに青春してきた人は、蘇りますよ。きっと^ - ^
感動して涙がオリジナルとダンサーズで二回出ました
最高😃
Love this song dancer edition, you can see the very excellent dance among sam,estu, chiharu and the kids! You can never see such dance in Hong Kong
曲もMVも国内意識してないところがカッケー！世界が嫉妬しちゃうね！
AMAZING!!!! loved every minute of it!
凄いの一言
サウンドは昔の小室サウンド＋今のサウンドだし
やはりダンスがカッコイイシみな上手い
動かしたくても、動かせない試練をしょってる者です。勇気づけられました、挫折と試練を超え、その先にあるものを目指しましょう。
魅入ってしまった (o・ω・o) ｶｯｺﾖｽ☆
Amazing MV!!! once I press ply can't stop watching it!! good work TRF!!!
This version is the best! Such amazing dancers!
Thank you new song!!
Thank you new dance movie!!
鳥肌モンです。
trf最高！！support TK always !!
これはヤバイ♪ 久し振りにマジで「ヤバイ」やつキタよ！！
love this dance!!!!!
I couldn't dare look away this is AMAZING
TKかなり力入れてるね！
小室が真面目に作った感じがする。
最近のシンセは音が太いので、それに慣れてきた感じがします。
やっぱりtrfは手が抜けないのね＾＾
メッチャカッコイイ。
Wow! They are amazing!
凄い。見とれてしまう。
5̀̀ minutes of dance that just doesn't let up. O_O
All I have to say is: This is the first time a music video leaves me tired!
20th anniversary! Congratulations! trf!
Ok people, let's not argue about comparing and contrasting J-pop/K-pop. Let's just either enjoy or not enjoy, and if you don't like it just move on. It's as simple as that!
I'm gagging that they're in their 40s and 50s and dancing this hard!
90'S JPOP IS BACK!
is like the guys from EXILE too .... i don't how this japanese groups never get old!!!!
trf 20周年らしいな また人気でてきてる
oh new release? sooo much better when avex posts the full PVs online even if not in HD!
the lil kids yo....dey hard!
逆境を経験しても、不屈の精神で立ち直る姿に感動するね
Amazing
Tetsuya Komuro is the producer that defined what we know now as J-Pop, and the name "trf" comes from "Tetsuya Rave Factory". Back to the K-Pop discussion, you don't have to be included into the "young crowd" (sorry if I offended you btw), my point isn't meant to start a fight or something. The K-Pop idols have amazing dancing and vocal skills, that's undeniable. But when it comes to a group that has been active since 1992 (!), it's just amazing to watch them perform like if they were teenagers.
Original Version、Dancer's Versionと見ると
YU-KI Version、DJ KOO Versionと見たくなってしまう。
loving this
It may be probably boring for the young crowd, but for those of us young adults who grew up with Tetsuya Komuro's music (and that involves trf, globe, Namie Amuro, hitomi, and many others), this is incredibly nostalgic.
This is great :o
I didn't like the most of the choreo, but the dancers are amazing!!!!!!!!! wow
そうかもしれないですね！！！！！
Esto sí es una coreografía!
More of this kind of J-POP please!
この曲にHey!Ladies＆Gentleman乗せたらかっこいい
矢張りダンスミュージックと言えばtrfですね。
メンバーも年齢の割に若い！！
ダンス効果ですかね？
I've never seen an MV with dancin' Amish lookalike's...DAT'S FUCKIN' CRAZAY!!!
Standing ovation
MUDAFUCKIN' FAST-FORWARD SPEED x2. DIS SHIT DA BEST!!!
4:33 - 4:34 BROFIST RIGHT BACK AT CH'YA BABY!!!
1.Why isnt this in HQ, avexnetwork?
2. This is way better then the original version.
3. First time i see a vid this different from a japanese artist, GJ!
良い
大変、良く仕上がってます☆〜（ゝ。∂）
Kooさんのラップがあるー！！感激！！！*\(^o^)/*
kpop is more materialistic and commercilized than jpop....... dancers in jpop industry are very different .... a lot of them are proffesional dancers in hip hop (like EXILE tribe members) house( like sam from trf) or locking (Kenzo from da pump)
Hard Mode On
勝手に動悸があがる。やばいね。
my favorite fly girls 1:11, 2:39
4:04
スーパー神タイム
his name is SAM
90's Asian pop rules
HD Please!
ゆいなちゃん見つけた♪2:08 4:35
the dance totaly beats the kpop idols.
Where can I buy this song?
KENZOさん？
what`s the name of the guy with long hair?
Young crowd? I'm not a kid, thanks. Probably older than you. In any case, I'm not big on Japanese pop, so I have no idea who Komuro is. Just don't appreciate random digs on Korean pop, so I decided to share my thoughts on this particular song. I do like TM Revolution and some other J-Pop. so I'm not a hater or anything. Only annoyed that a person would say a single group is better than an entire industry, probably without having seen any good dancers from K-Pop groups.
and i'm hatin on kpop... i like some kpop groups like, 2pm, tvxq and kara, dalmatian and MIB too
Byle więcej
The pop industry in general is materialistic and commercialized. That's the case in Japan as well as Korea, and America, and Europe, etc. That's the nature of the genre. Also, there are plenty of sincere songs in the Korean pop industry. The catchier songs are usually the ones promoted, but there are always sincere, heart-warming slower songs (Someday by U-KISS, for example). I also find it quite telling that fair criticism is received so negatively. Without translation, all I hear is flat vocal
4:19
Keikoか安室奈美恵歌ってもいい感じの歌ですね
There are also many professional dancers in K-Pop, like Jay Park and Hyunseung (B2ST) for hip-hop, and Joon (MBLAQ) for ballet, off the top of my head. There's also many group members that were discovered through dance competition and/or excel at it to a professional level, like Yunho of DBSK, Eunhyuk of Super Junior, Taemin of SHINee, Kiseop of U-KISS, Changbum of 100%, Zelo of BAP, Bi Rain, etc. Essentially every group has at least one dancer of that level. It's not as different as you think.
Please don`t talk about kpop on the jpop side of youtube -__-. It will cause fan wars.
That's because most of the dancers in EXILE tribe only dance. They're just visual and don't actually do any singing. That kind of thing doesn't really exist in KPop. All the members in those groups sing and dance...at the same time for live performances. (Sometimes lipsyncing for more complicated choreography, but mostly live.) The choreography can only be so difficult because they have to sing as well. Also, there are many KPop singers who were also professional dancers before being discovered.
微妙う～ its not bad but its not that good either.The dancers are great and some parts are cool but i hate how they have black background with black clothes. you cant see the dancers properly. the choreo is pretty boring aswell. sure they incorporated different styles like hiphop, house, locking into their dance but they werent that special.
Perhaps some, but the song is incredibly flat overall and the vocals are bland. As a dance video it is fairly cool, but the song is just incredibly boring.