Heinkel He-162 in Combat (How Well Did The 'People's Fighter' Actually Do?)

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  • Heinkel He-162, known as 'Volksjäger' or 'People's Fighter' was one of Germany's last ditch efforts to turn the tide of war. Plenty of videos on YT talk about its development, intended role, manufacturing etc but there's very little about the type's actual combat record. Did it achieve anything in those last days of WWII? Find out in this video.
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    - Marek Murawski - JG-1 Oesau (1944-45)
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  • @jamesrogers5783
    @jamesrogers5783 4 місяці тому +221

    i actually met a 162 driver decades ago on the airshow road. he was one of the youths --an 18 YO that was tasked to fly the 162. he only made a few flights before he was shot down by a p-51 while moving 162s to a new AB. he crash landed his jet --survived being hit by a 50bmg . ended up in the US and joined the NAVY. he said the 162 was excellent to fly IF the glue held and the engine didn't blow--yet they failed very frequently

    • @Flapjackbatter
      @Flapjackbatter 4 місяці тому +24

      Was that Harald Bauer maybee? He was shot down while ferrying a 162. Flew for the US (don't remember wich branch) before and during Vietnam. He later did talks at airshows etc.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +10

      Thank you for sharing that!

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 3 місяці тому

      When you have slaves building your airplanes...

    • @Donmusicman
      @Donmusicman 3 місяці тому +10

      I remember reading somewhere that the glue that was used was inferior to the intended glue. The Allies had destroyed the factory that produced the glue that the Germans needed, so, they used what was available instead. That led to aircraft breakups in mid flight. Gotta say, though, it was a beautiful looking plane for the time. I had a model of it when I was a kid.

    • @drstrangelove4998
      @drstrangelove4998 3 місяці тому +11

      You met Harald Bauer. He relates to one of the pilots who shot down a DeHavilland Meteor of 616 sq Near the Dutch border. Confirming perhaps Eric Browns prediction that the Volksjäger would run rings around the Meteor, had they met in combat.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 4 місяці тому +181

    "If the glue holds" is a terrifying qualifier of an airplane's capabilities.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +13

      Yes, somehow nuts and rivets seem far more reassuring 😁

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 4 місяці тому +13

      The glue was fine, until the factory that made it got bombed. The new manufacturer made glue that was so toxic that it ate through the wood. That problem was remedied before production ceased and the last airframes made were perfectly reliable.

    • @andrslnks4804
      @andrslnks4804 4 місяці тому +3

      They glue aircrafts these days also

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 3 місяці тому +5

      @@andrslnks4804 - Yes, but the technology has come a long way since WWII.

    • @andrslnks4804
      @andrslnks4804 3 місяці тому +4

      @@scootergeorge7089 except boeing?

  • @FlyinBrian777
    @FlyinBrian777 4 місяці тому +180

    Eric Brown flew the 162 after the war and said it was very responsive and delightful to fly.

    • @ScoopsTV-History-om9mv
      @ScoopsTV-History-om9mv 4 місяці тому +7

      He also said the p47 had a low mach limit ,he was wrong

    • @travelbugse2829
      @travelbugse2829 4 місяці тому +18

      @@ScoopsTV-History-om9mv Eric 'Winkle' Brown probably was flying other countries' aircraft without ordnance and not much fuel on board, so the handling characteristics would have been different. He also believed the ME 262 was a superior gun platform (less snaking) to the Gloster Meteor, which is hotly disputed these days.

    • @robertharper3754
      @robertharper3754 4 місяці тому +34

      There was little at the time that he didn't fly, so he was a VERY experienced pilot to say the least, as to the pilots who had to fly the 162 during the war they weren't even close to his league.

    • @robertbolding4182
      @robertbolding4182 4 місяці тому +1

      That really doesn't mean anything does it

    • @Rudeljaeger
      @Rudeljaeger 4 місяці тому +38

      He even said "it can fly circles around a Meteor". Surprisingly these quotes often result in angry seething by british (!) commenters lol

  • @m0rvidusm0rvidus18
    @m0rvidusm0rvidus18 3 місяці тому +57

    People like to hate on it, but it's obvious that if this design was manufactured in the same conditions the US/UK, with better facilities, labour force and raw materials etc., and pilots were trained properly to operate it, it would have been hard to beat. The speed advantage was massive.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому +8

      I agree, with proper testing and better production conditions, these fighters could have been effective for a while.

    • @wetleyrocks3092
      @wetleyrocks3092 Місяць тому

      If my auntie had balls she would've been my uncle

    • @caribman10
      @caribman10 Місяць тому +8

      Yeah, only five or six major problems to fix and everything would've been hunky-dory. Sure.

    • @crudboy12
      @crudboy12 Місяць тому +4

      Don't forget, the Allies were also developing jet fighters at the same time, with both the US and UK having jets by this point. Even if the jets performed as designed, it wouldn't have done the Germans much good at this point in the war. The other issue with the German jets including the 262 was the difficulties they had targeting Allied bombers and other piston driven aircraft due to the large speed differential and the slow velocity guns. It took a lot of skill to make hits in the extremely limited window of time between max range and when they had to break away. Basically, the German jet program had little chance of actually stopping the strategic bomber campaign.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Місяць тому

      @@crudboy12the German jet engines were more advanced the Brit’s had a good engine with longer life but it quickly hit power inefficiencies whereas the German design became the basis for modern jets

  • @anderssvensson4554
    @anderssvensson4554 4 місяці тому +57

    This is the best history lesson ive seen so far on he 162

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +5

      Thank you very much for that positive feedback!

    • @olgagaming5544
      @olgagaming5544 2 місяці тому

      @@showtime112 Hey, do you have online access to digitalised archives of both German and Allied reports? Because for such a research, normally someone would have to sit in german archives and know german and live either in germany or somewhere in the EU and also have an access to compare the reports with Allied ones.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 місяці тому

      @@olgagaming5544 Afraid not. I can only rely on research done by other people (and made public).

  • @bjornsmith9431
    @bjornsmith9431 4 місяці тому +31

    Great history lesson He 162 the facts are rarely mentions.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @tplyons5459
    @tplyons5459 3 місяці тому +14

    Missing in history is the 162s used by Jg-84 and 85. They both picked up their 162s at the same time and flew in formation to their new base which is unknown. The accidently ran into an unescorted groups of American bombers and did considerable damage before they had to break off due to fuel. There is one book on Jg-85 that I have been trying to get a hold of to verify this story, but no luck yet.

  • @ganndeber1621
    @ganndeber1621 4 місяці тому +30

    Another well presented and informative video

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +3

      Glad you think so! Thank you!

  • @davidpope3943
    @davidpope3943 4 місяці тому +22

    Thank-you for an excellent telling of the He-162, my favourite of the early jet aircraft. Despite the appalling state the Germans were in, to design, test, build and put into service this aircraft in such a short span of time was a huge achievement ~ even if Ernst Heinkel did all he could behind the scenes to ensure his aircraft won the Volksjager competition despite there being better designs presented such as the Ta-183.
    Proposed future iterations of the He-162 included; swept wings, forward swept wings, V tail, different engine fits including 1 or 2 pulse jets etc. Galland decried the very concept of the Volksjager, saying they should be concentrating on Me-262 production instead and the idea that barely trained Hitler Youth were to pilot what was a hot little plane were ludicrous, but Eric Brown RN said it was an exhilarating little plane to fly, would’ve run rings round the Gloster Meteor and that the Allies were lucky it hadn’t appeared earlier as in concert with the Me-262 it would have wreaked havoc on Allied bomber formations.

    • @earlgrey691
      @earlgrey691 4 місяці тому +2

      German utter genius and capability is no small thing i'd vouchsafe?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      The idea that youth with some basic training could fly this jet was one of the most optimistic ideas in history 😁 And Eric Brown seems to have had one of the coolest jobs ever! Thanks for another comment!

  • @jeromewagschal9485
    @jeromewagschal9485 4 місяці тому +26

    The fact that this sleek little jet fighter flew at the end of WW2 totally blows my mind, the ME 163 and the 262 looked different and futuristic but this one with its wing tips and jet engine on top looked really really different...
    That said, I wonder how the Heinkel 162 would have fared against the Gloster Meteor...

    • @yoschiannik8438
      @yoschiannik8438 4 місяці тому +3

      Well the metor was actually operationaö whilst the 162 was rushed amd flown by surivers ir cannonfodder. I cant imagine that the woukd have scored a singel kill against a metor whils losing atleast a hanfull of aircraft to accidents

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      I suppose nobody was yet sure how the future of fighter design would look like to everyone tried a different approach. The thing with an engine on top didn't catch on 😁 It is a shame that Meteor never faced the German jets.

    • @jeromewagschal9485
      @jeromewagschal9485 4 місяці тому

      @@showtime112 That makes sense, it was such a new type of technology nobody knew where things would go from there...

    • @mikedearing6352
      @mikedearing6352 4 місяці тому +2

      Victory would go to the best pilot in this comparison I think because both aircraft were very capable, one was faster while the other had much greater range, various combat scenarios would favor one aircraft over the other. I'd think the me262 might have manovering and some speed advantage and that by itself is often a deciding factor but... having more fuel, more flying time, can be decisive as well depending on a few other factors.

    • @yoschiannik8438
      @yoschiannik8438 4 місяці тому +1

      @@mikedearing6352 Skill means nothing when your wings fall off if you try to turn...

  • @Edescho
    @Edescho 3 місяці тому +7

    The animation on this video, coupled with the obvious research gone in to the history, is astounding. Incredible work. Hats off to you sir.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much, this is high praise indeed!

  • @lllordllloyd
    @lllordllloyd 3 місяці тому +5

    As a 50+ channel subscriber, how fortunate we are to have the technology to reproduce these actions so well... and by 'we' I mean our narrator, who tells these stories so engagingly and without padding.
    Great channel, sir.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much! This is a very positive feedback. I've been familiar with the simulation technology ever since the early days, the progress is quite amazing.

  • @lazaglider
    @lazaglider 4 місяці тому +51

    This is crazy. I was in my local modelling shop not 3 hours ago and they had a couple of Tamiya He-162s in my preferred scale of 1/48. No, I thought. Too outlandish. I will pick one up tomorrow...

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +13

      Recently, I'm getting some feedback that my videos inspire people to build certain models. I should try to approach model companies for sponsorship 😁

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 3 місяці тому

      RC or shelf jockey?

  • @JT-io9ii
    @JT-io9ii 4 місяці тому +14

    Absolutely loved this one! I'll revisit and watch again..several times, as I find the air war over Europe to be most interesting. For me anyway. Fantastic video!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +2

      I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed it so much! Happy re-watch 😁

  • @henrikstolpe
    @henrikstolpe 3 місяці тому +7

    They have a complete 162 in the Berlin technical museum, as well as a 109. Was amazing.

    • @MsSoulProvider
      @MsSoulProvider 3 місяці тому

      try Gatow Airport,- whole lotta goodies there too..

  • @wiktorberski9272
    @wiktorberski9272 4 місяці тому +11

    A really interesting piece of military history. So thank you very much

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @parallel-knight
    @parallel-knight День тому +1

    Omg I love this video! The gameplay mixes with you taking about historical battles is perfect! You gotta do more like this. It’s like watching a mini episode of dogfights series. If maybe you did some edits as well like from dogfights to switch between angles and show where the planes are in the sky. That would bring from 90% to 100% man!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  26 хвилин тому

      Thank you for the feedback! There are quite a few similar videos on the channel. Your suggestion about showing the exact 3D locations is pretty good. For now, this is a big technical challenge but if I figure out a good way to do it, I'll introduce it.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 4 місяці тому +4

    That it flew as well as it did is a miracle in itself. Especially when one considers the circumstances of its manufacturer.
    A good showing of its history in action.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, the odds were not in its favor. Thank you for commenting!

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 4 місяці тому +8

    The He-162's didn't get many kills, but the squadron was new, the planes were not well tested before deliveries started so they had a lot of teething problems. It had an impressive armament package, but with really only two months to train, and constantly changing air fields, not much time to achieve anything.

    • @heneagedundas
      @heneagedundas 4 місяці тому +1

      Only 1 kill claimed and that was given to a flak crew, so yes, not many.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      The odds were pretty bad, nobody can deny that. Thanks for another comment!

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 4 місяці тому

      It only had 2x 20mm cannons.

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 4 місяці тому +5

      @@louisavondart9178 Just like Spitfire, Bf-109, La-7 or Fw190D. It wasn't weak armament, especially since German 20mm shells were more powerful than others, and in this aircraft the guns were centerline instead of wing-mounted which always increased effectiveness. The real problem was abysmal amount of ammunition (barely 120 rounds per gun, while typical loadout of WWII fighter would be 200 rounds)

  • @mchrome3366
    @mchrome3366 3 місяці тому +4

    Excellent video, content and commentary. Thanks

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

  • @powerjets3512
    @powerjets3512 4 місяці тому +29

    Having seen the plane in a Berlin museum, it is scary. To get into that is. Wood and a BMW unreliable engine. The ejection seat is supposed to stop you going into the jet engine, but no hope at low altitude.

    • @jamesrogers5783
      @jamesrogers5783 4 місяці тому

      it looks quite "spidery" to me as well. those spindly tail surfaces don't inspire much confidence , nor does the engine placement. or that its made of wood held together with wood glue --heat and wood glue ?? bad combo

    • @pg259
      @pg259 4 місяці тому

      @@jamesrogers5783 Yeah--like the Mosquito and we all know that was a very bad plane, wasn´t it?

    • @jamesrogers5783
      @jamesrogers5783 4 місяці тому

      the mossie was not jet powered and the brits had much better glue@@pg259

    • @edsmale
      @edsmale 4 місяці тому +2

      @@pg259different glue, vastly different construction skill.

    • @JoeJ94611
      @JoeJ94611 4 місяці тому +1

      @@edsmale I recall reading the preferred glue manufacturer's factory was badly damaged in an Allied air raid.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 4 місяці тому +8

    Another good video Showtime 112.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thanks, I'm glad you liked this one too!

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 4 місяці тому +5

    Another fine production in the books. Keep on keeping on, Showtime112.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      I'm happy to hear it, thank you!

  • @josemoreno3334
    @josemoreno3334 4 місяці тому +5

    This is the first video of the He-162 i ever seen. Well done video.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much. There is a bunch of other videos but they focus on other aspects of this type.

  • @longshot7590
    @longshot7590 3 місяці тому +2

    Great Job with this video! Much appreciated! I knew so little coming in and left feeling like i am ready to lookup more about this amazing time of the launch of the age of the single engine jet fighter age!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for the comment!

  • @alexhatfield2987
    @alexhatfield2987 3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video. Love your honest presentation of the research blended with the simulation of the events.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for the positive feedback! That is essentially what I go for.

  • @Brian-nw2bn
    @Brian-nw2bn Місяць тому +1

    So happy to have found your channel mate! Great presentation, super informative too! Looking forward to binging your content this weekend. Keep up the great work, God speed!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Місяць тому +1

      I'm glad you did. I hope you like other content too and that there are plenty more people like you 😁

  • @florianbrechler6906
    @florianbrechler6906 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for these great video! My grand unkle was at the 1. Jagdgeschwader and was trained on the "Volksjäger" he liked it but told not to pull the flightstick too strong at the start.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for appreciating it and for sharing a personal relation. That agrees with what I've read, maneuvering the He-162 at low speeds should have been very careful.

  • @tominva4121
    @tominva4121 4 місяці тому +10

    I have often wondered about how effective the German ejection seats were in use.

    • @MrOlgrumpy
      @MrOlgrumpy 4 місяці тому +4

      So did the pilots --

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Well, it was brand new technology and it could work under favorable circumstances. Perhaps in those cases the pilot might have just bailed out without the ejection seat but I'm sure that it increased the chances for survival.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 4 місяці тому +4

      The way I see it, the pilots would have no chance of survival without the ejector seat. With the seat, they had a small chance.
      A small chance is better than no chance.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 3 місяці тому +4

      Heinkel remained in charge of ejection seat development through the war. Ejection seat was standard on all German test aircraft. Perhaps a dozen ejections occurred on service He 219 and I believe some crew on the He 177 had them. They were on the whole quite successful. They were not automatic. The canopy had to be manually ejected, feet placed in stirrups and then ejection initiated. Parachute had to be manually deployed.
      -in modern zero zero ejection seats canopy is ejected automatically, feet retracted by straps into stirrups, ejection completed, parachute extracted by rocked and parachute instantly inflated by explode charge.
      -The geometric seats, at least got you out of the aircraft

  • @robertplemmons3321
    @robertplemmons3321 3 місяці тому +4

    Nice video. Excellent graphics.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @stevetheduck1425
    @stevetheduck1425 Місяць тому +1

    The speed with which this aircraft was produced is often commented upon.
    It's worth looking through Heinkel designs to find that a larger plane with similar layout existed in the form of calculations and drawings of basic airframe design, more than a drawing, less than a prototype.
    Like with the existing North American A-36 Apache becoming the P-51 Mustang, this shortened development enormously.

  • @doktor_spritz9344
    @doktor_spritz9344 4 місяці тому +4

    Amazing vid as always

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!

  • @FRIEND_711
    @FRIEND_711 4 місяці тому +5

    Absolutely lovely that yoh work in even something with little service record ae the He-162. Bravo.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Basically, in case such as this you cover many details which you would skip with an aircraft with a bigger combat record 😁 Thank you for another comment!

    • @FRIEND_711
      @FRIEND_711 4 місяці тому +2

      @@showtime112 of course and always! I love watching your videos and i absolutely love them.

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 Місяць тому +3

    Capt. Eric Brown loved the handling of the He162, saying it would ‘run rings around a Gloster Meteor jet, had they met in combat. In fact his prediction came true, when a Meteor from 616sq was shot down over the Dutch border by a Volksjäger in the last days of the war.

    • @AB-mw8oz
      @AB-mw8oz Місяць тому

      No Meteors were shot down in air to air combat in WW2. The Meteors themselves were highly restricted on what they were permitted to do, From their introduction in the summer of 1944 they were primarily for home defense against V-1s. AS 1945 rolled around several were moved to bases in Belgium, they had destroyed over 40 aircraft in ground attack operations by the time the war had ended, but not once had they ever shot down another aircraft in air to air combat, and wouldn't see any air to air losses until the Korean War against Russian and Chinese MiGs
      Brown's View is also not as one sides as you say. He described the He162 as "built by a modelling enthusiast" due to the mostly wooden structure
      "great to fly but a handful on take-off and landing"
      "controls were as good as any he’d encountered, they could easily be mis-handled"

    • @heneagedundas
      @heneagedundas 17 днів тому

      Didn't happen. I've read the 616 Operational Record Book and spoken with surviving pilots (about 20 years ago). The only losses they had in the final months came from a mid-air collision on 29 April 1945.

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 4 місяці тому +7

    50k -- look at you.
    Congrats, friend. On to 100k.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      I used to think that youtubers with 25 K were big shots. Doesn't seem so anymore 😁 Anyway, thanks for the wishes!

  • @vonbraunwerner9067
    @vonbraunwerner9067 3 місяці тому +3

    15:58 France flight tested a trio of He-162s in 1946-1948. At my birthplace: Mont de Marsan, south-west France. BA.118 Colonel Rozanoff, nowadays they fly Rafales (the base also got the first Mirage IVA nuclear bombers in October 1964). Whatever Eric Brown said of the He-162, french pilots hated the machine. There was one fatal accident mid 1948 after what the type was grounded. France used the type as a trainer to familiarize pilots with the coming jet fighters: Vampires and Ouragans.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for sharing the info, it's quite interesting.

  • @i.setyawan
    @i.setyawan 4 місяці тому +6

    Another great video! The volksjäger is an interesting subject. I personally thought that its performance was much worse. In any case, a curious little plane that tried to push the envelope.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! I agree, such airplanes with their flaws and everything can sometimes be even more interesting than those which were just unbeatable.

  • @juancarlosperezcortes9259
    @juancarlosperezcortes9259 4 місяці тому +3

    Great story. The unknown episodes of WW2. Thanks for sahring it with us

  • @robgraham5697
    @robgraham5697 4 місяці тому +6

    Thanks again for this bit of obscure history.

  • @A.G.798
    @A.G.798 3 місяці тому +3

    Heinkel HE 162 auch genannt der Volksjäger! Billig hergestellt, viel Sperrholz und auch schwer zu fliegen.

  • @user-ke4vx1tt6j
    @user-ke4vx1tt6j 4 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for showing this plane. Interesting trivia

  • @FulmenTheFinn
    @FulmenTheFinn 3 місяці тому +3

    Excellent video. Subscribed.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent386 Місяць тому +1

    I can’t tell you how much I love this channel..The great history and video fits perfectly together..Also this channel comes at a direct way of telling the facts about an aircraft or a conflict..Keep up the great work and will you do a part 2 on the Romanian Airforce during WW2..If not the Airforce of Hungry would be great to watch..Thank you🇬🇧👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for such an awesome comment! I will cover more of the Romanian Air Force in the future but I'm not sure when exactly.

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 Місяць тому +2

    The glue thing is easily explained, the original Tego Film glue factory had just been bombed flat, and so a substitute called Kaurit, which was more subject to moisture, sometimes causing failure.

  • @wingmanjim6
    @wingmanjim6 Місяць тому +3

    An obviously well researched video - thank you !

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Місяць тому

      Thank you for appreciating it!

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper 3 місяці тому +2

    The Thunderbolt misidentification is funny, in the same way Allied ground troops often identified every German tank as a Tiger. The Thunderbolt was by far the meanest machine alive over Europe, and it's no wonder "Thunderbolt Fright" has taken hold among the Luftwaffe.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому +2

      I think a similar thing was happening during the Battle of Britain when German pilots were always shot down by Spitfires and rarely ever by Hurricanes :)

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper 3 місяці тому

      @@showtime112 Very good point sir.

  • @SeSmokki
    @SeSmokki 4 місяці тому +5

    I really love the design. Unique plane designs are fun.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Unique is the word, nothing quite like it appeared ever again.

  • @lucius6667
    @lucius6667 4 місяці тому +3

    Glad you did this assessment,one of my favourite late German aircraft tbh what other late war types you got plans to showcase next and keep up the good work buddy ??

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the feedback! There will probably be something about Me-163.

  • @infolover_68
    @infolover_68 2 місяці тому +2

    It was a revolutionary jet fighter but the glue used to hold it together wasn't reliable. Furthermore, the He-162 arrived too late in the war...

  • @patavinity1262
    @patavinity1262 3 місяці тому +2

    Imagine you're a successful German fighter pilot and you receive the news that your squadron is being re-equipped with brand new aircraft. Then you see the new aircraft and it's a flimsy deathtrap with a giant engine strapped on to the fuselage.

  • @chups1447
    @chups1447 4 місяці тому +3

    Great work!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the visit Chups!

  • @Miko19691
    @Miko19691 4 місяці тому +3

    Again very good video.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 4 місяці тому +3

    Great video

  • @jeannezehner9450
    @jeannezehner9450 4 місяці тому +7

    The SALAMANDER, was built in a hurry, with a mix of wood and aluminium and the turbojet of the ME-262 which was ready.
    It was easy to produce and cheap, it's was very important at the end of the war.
    But it need more time to be well developped, unfortunatly it was the end the war, and the accident arrived very often. 320 was produced on 1945, this is an exploit in so little time !!!

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 4 місяці тому +1

      L armée de l'air en à récupérer 3 et tester à Mont de Marsan entre 47 et 48. Malheureusement un pilote d'essai s'est planté dans un champ 3km après décollage. Un des 2 restant est exposé au musée de l'air du Bourget. J'ai même la photo !!!.
      J'en ai vu un autre,. Me rappelle plus si c'était à IWM de Hendon ou Duxford. Par contre le me 262 c'est Hendon. J'ai pu le...toucher

    • @jeannezehner9450
      @jeannezehner9450 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dominiqueroudier9401
      C'est une invention dans l'urgence de fin de guerre. Mais c'est une prouesse technique réalisée en un minimum de temps qui a été bien pensée. Cependant arrivant trop tard pour faire quoi que ce soit, elle fut oubliée comme beaucoup d'autres.
      Il aurait fallu qu'elle soit mise au point en 42, là elle aurait pu faire faire mal aux bombardiers alliés.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jeannezehner9450 Par contre sais pas si plus fiable que le Me 262. Par contre manque de pilotes expérimentés.
      Les 3 exemplaires captures ont permis aux pilotes du CEV de se faire la main avant de recevoir le premier lot de Vampire. Et c'est bien que à la fin de la vidéo il en a mis un aux couleurs de l,AA

    • @paulwoodman5131
      @paulwoodman5131 4 місяці тому

      The turbo jet engine they put in that was a marvel and it needed better metals that they didn't have access to, but time between overall was probably very short as the allies soon discovered in their testing. If they didn't have a good supply of parts , they had to park them. But interesting to see as the Reich collapsed what they held on to and were they ended up.

    • @jeannezehner9450
      @jeannezehner9450 4 місяці тому

      @@dominiqueroudier9401
      Le ME-262 a deux turboréacteurs, c'est mieux, mais c'est tout, et puis il y avait le problème des pilotes expérimentés en fin de guerre.

  • @branka4226
    @branka4226 4 місяці тому +2

    Nice video 👍

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 4 місяці тому +2

    I'd love to see similar videos on the subject of American-made carrier based fighters (i.e. the Wildcat/Martlet, the Hellcat and the Corsair) vs. Luftwaffe land-based fighters. So far I haven't come across even a single instance of an encounter, let alone any combat or comparisons. The FAA fighters were deployed in nothern European waters, e.g. the Tirpitz raids, where they didn't actually encounter any Luftwaffe fighter opposition. Also, accounts of the Fulmar vs. German single engine fighters.

  • @VC27
    @VC27 Місяць тому +1

    At the very least, the Salamander tried to demonstrate the ejection seat. It is a pity that this is not recognised today. Nevertheless, excellent reportage!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Місяць тому

      True, these are some of the first ejections in history. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @offshorequest
    @offshorequest 3 місяці тому +2

    Another good video about lesser known Luftwaffe aircraft.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @RealDarko
    @RealDarko 4 місяці тому +4

    Nicely researched of a obscure airplane, I liked the camme scheme of the french one at the end.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 4 місяці тому +2

      After war french air force tested 3 he162. Between 1947 and 1948. Unfortunately one test pilot crashed Just after takeoff in field near Mont de Marsan AB. 2 others plane were send to FAF mechanics school. Now one of two is display at Musée de l'air Paris Le bourget

    • @RealDarko
      @RealDarko 4 місяці тому

      @@dominiqueroudier9401 Thanks for the info!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! I thought an Allied skin would be a nice touch, representing the post-war testing phase in the airplane's life.

  • @TheLincolnshireFlyer
    @TheLincolnshireFlyer 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video! Will you be doing any more on the Falklands war? There are the two Etendard Exocet attacks on the MV Atlantic Conveyer and HMS Sheffield, The ground attack where a Harrier GR3 was shot down and the shootdown of the C130 by Sharky Ward in a Sea Harrier. Be great to see more :)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому +2

      Thank you1 There are certainly plans to cover Falklands some more. The problem is that there's so much stuff to cover and not enough time to do it all 😁

  • @timcargile1562
    @timcargile1562 3 місяці тому +3

    Vrdeo of a rare slice of ww2 history. Thanks!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @LarsAgerbk
    @LarsAgerbk Місяць тому

    Amazing video. I love the music in particular. Very atmospheric.
    Look up Harald Bauer's presentation on serving as a test pilot for the He-162. It's called:
    Heinkel He 162 Jet Fighter Test Pilot
    20 minutes 40 seconds in, he claims, one of the He 162 shot down a British Meteor in may 1945. And another He 162 shot down a British fighter too around that time also.

  • @ralphscholer7345
    @ralphscholer7345 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank YOU for this extraordinary and brilliant video ! It's very Special and for me,as a german,now I know the last day's of this jet experiment of the LUFTWAFFE !! Good Job,well done!! 😊

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      I really appreciate your positive feedback!

  • @Alex-Plaisir-FIFA
    @Alex-Plaisir-FIFA 3 місяці тому +1

    This people fighter is very fascinating. Thx for this great video once again :)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for appreciating it!

  • @stevendorris5713
    @stevendorris5713 4 місяці тому +3

    One word...WOW!!!!
    Great job!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thank you very much for this positive feedback!

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Місяць тому +1

    Grwat video. Subbed...👍

  • @MrSpirit99
    @MrSpirit99 4 місяці тому +7

    Nice one.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Thanks! Glad you liked it!

  • @byronbreese3454
    @byronbreese3454 4 місяці тому +3

    Your visual suggestion at the end is intriguing. Did the French capture, paint, and fly some 162s?!?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Yes, France, UK, USA and USSR all tested He-162 after the war.

    • @byronbreese3454
      @byronbreese3454 3 місяці тому

      Ah, I see, as in tested. I knew the US etc captured and tested, but not France. I remember when the A-10 emerged how it's basic design, albeit with two engines, reminded me of the 162. @@showtime112

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 4 місяці тому +10

    It's a very clever simple design.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +3

      It was generally not bad but it really needed more testing.

    • @lappodude
      @lappodude 29 днів тому

      nah, it was total useless.

  • @JAEUFM
    @JAEUFM Місяць тому

    I remember it being stated that a top German Ace was allowed to see one of the first 162s off the line. He said it would be an excellent aircraft, small, with excellent armament, in the hands of an experienced pilot would be a fine aircraft to shoot down Allied bombers. [If the aircraft could have been manufactured to the standards and numbers that Heinkel proposed, it could have delayed the end of the war. There was even talk of giving it swept wings to increase performance a bit more.]

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS 4 місяці тому +3

    I've always felt it is an aircraft that never got a fair chance. It needed time to debug and train on.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      That's true, the game was rigged against it.

  • @ghostb9339
    @ghostb9339 3 місяці тому +1

    I think Wehrmacht should’ve concentrated their efforts on optimization of existing piston engines and aerodynamics instead of testing new technology in such an inappropriate period of the war. But it seems like the idea of Wunderwaffe captured minds of Reich higher management.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      It was probably desperation. It was obvious that they couldn't beat the Allies with prop aircraft so they thought they needed weapons which could give them huge advantage to compensate for the quantity.

  • @Lonkka665
    @Lonkka665 3 місяці тому +2

    Nice video, thx.
    It is always awesome to get the actual stories from the unit flight logs and compare them tot the ones from the other side!
    I also built the Revell's model kit when I was a kid and had always thought that the plane made at least some sort of impact, but achieving measly one confirmed kill with couple of losses due to enemy action, plus all the "self-inflicted" losses, makes you REALLY wonder if the resources used to design and build the 300+ of these could've been used WAY better...
    Obviously that comment comes with hindsight, but wasn't this a bit of a common problem in 3rd Reich? Spending scant resources on trying to get better and better wunderwaffe after wunderwaffe when reliable more standard equipment had been already available from some time and would've been a way better an option to stick with them and increase their production?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the feedback! Yes, German resources probably could have been spent better but the airplane itself wasn't bad. It just needed some more time to mature as it was clearly rushed into service.

  • @clausbohm9807
    @clausbohm9807 10 днів тому

    Great video creation. Good enough to be on the history channel.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  10 днів тому +1

      That's a high praise, thank you!

  • @aldocosta1220
    @aldocosta1220 3 місяці тому +2

    Bela animação e trabalho histórico, bom trabalho

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 місяці тому +11

    Wooden jet built by forced labor...what could go wrong? 😂

    • @ElmCreekSmith
      @ElmCreekSmith 4 місяці тому +3

      The British Vampire & Mosquito were built of wood by skilled cabinet makers, & they turned out well.

    • @edsmale
      @edsmale 4 місяці тому +5

      @@ElmCreekSmithnot slave labor, big difference

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +5

      Especially when you add insufficient testing and overwhelming enemies 😁

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 4 місяці тому

      @@showtime112 Poor little Heinkel didn't stand a chance 😥

    • @daveharrison61
      @daveharrison61 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ElmCreekSmithskilled labour and motivated. That's the difference.

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ve been lucky enough to see two of these rare aircraft, one at the RAF Museum and the other at the Imperial War Museum.

  • @rogerboniface8086
    @rogerboniface8086 3 місяці тому

    Oblt.Dickfield who flew from 1939 to 1945 said the 162 handled well and turned well. He got behind a P47 using a "flat turn". The weakness according to Dickfield was the nose wheel on landing.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 3 місяці тому +1

      The ME-163 did not have a nose wheel, it used a belly skid.

  • @VC_27
    @VC_27 15 днів тому

    Excellent research and recantation, as usual.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  14 днів тому

      Thank you very much for the positive feedback!

  • @Rapscallion2009
    @Rapscallion2009 Місяць тому

    I'd have expected the aircraft to be very noise with that engine immediately behind the pilot. Surprised to learn it wasn't.

  • @ayamoth8925
    @ayamoth8925 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice video! Which game did you use?

  • @N8570E
    @N8570E 3 місяці тому

    Although I find his accent fatiguing, I do appreciate his pronunciation of German words and names. Also, as to the computer animation, I believed that I would hate it. But I loved it. In my youth, the late 1950's, there were library books. Very few photographs of World War II aircraft and other equipment. That is why I got into plastic kit modeling. I wanted to see a Junkers Ju 88 from different angles. Also, it was the beginning of black and white TVs with rabbit ears (antennae) and very iffy reception. There were 3 TV stations with limited broadcasting hours: WBBM (CBS channel 2), WMAQ (NBC channel 5) and WBKB (ABC channel 7). And a little bit of WGN (independent channel 9) and WTTW (independent non-profit channel 11). They were VHF. When UHF came out, there was WFLD (channel 32) and 'WSNW?' (channel 44). I could at times receive a station from Milwaukee(?) and watch true bull fights! That was at about two in the morning and with the right atmospherics. And, no computers! Can you believe it!!! Thanks for the memories.
    I have short attention span. In those days, especially over the summer, I would watch the TV in my bedroom and the one down the hall in my older brother's bedroom, for the at home local ball team (Cubs or Sox, White, that is) and a national broadcast on channel 5 NBC ("Game of the Week"). I would have one radio on to the local pop music station (WIND, WGN, WLS, I don't remember). I would also have two other radios, one tuned to the local team that was out of town and one to a 'national' game. I would usually score the at home game. And I would also be reading a book. And during the week, the Cubs might be available, they never played night games at home. All pitchers batted and there were 8 teams in each league, including the Milwaukee Braves, New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers. Depending upon the season there was the NFL and later the AFL. The Chicago Cardinals were my favorite team. And the Bears played at Wrigley Field. Go Ollie Matson and Rick Casares! There was no basketball in Chicago and the Chicago Blackhawks' home games were never broadcast on TV. Go Stan Mikita!
    At 77 with multiple strokes and other happy events, I acknowledge that my memory is faulty. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
    Thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.

  • @michaelnaisbitt7926
    @michaelnaisbitt7926 4 місяці тому +7

    Records seem to vary somewhat but it appears that the He 162 shot down at least 6 and maybe as high as 8 Allied aircraft they lost more than that due to accidents on landing or trying to eject

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      From what I could find in the books that specifically deal with the subject, there's only that one questionable claim plus another one rumored kill but I didn't mention that one as there's no detail at all.

    • @brucemacaulay1235
      @brucemacaulay1235 4 місяці тому

      @@showtime112 Just read Adolf Dickfeld Footsteps of the Hunter and he claimed to shoot down a P-47 with his HE 162 page 187. Book can be found on SCRIB at no cost.

  • @dominiqueroudier9401
    @dominiqueroudier9401 4 місяці тому +3

    Hello again mate. Just send you by mail , link about "french " he162. Thank you to show at end of vidéo this plane with french roundels.🇲🇫 3 are used ,1 crashed. Other in display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget. In UK , seen in IWM Hendon or Duxford

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      I've seen the mail, thank you! I thought it was interesting to use one of the Allied skins at the end to illustrate the final chapter in the type's operational use - testing (usually, it's just the first chapter)

    • @russellmarriott9396
      @russellmarriott9396 4 місяці тому

      There is one currently under restoration at Duxford.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 4 місяці тому

      ​@@russellmarriott9396yes i have seen it in 2019. In France another display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget exécutive airport ( Paris airshow)

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 3 місяці тому

    the first engagement’s second story sounds more like someone who wasn’t there trying to blame the pilot instead of the shiny new toy being overtaken by the old design…

  • @Krhys1
    @Krhys1 3 місяці тому +1

    It's still a lovely looking aircraft.

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 3 місяці тому +1

    Many/some years ago I visited IWM in London and they had an He 162 hanging close to the balcony, to be looked at. Still an extremely "modern" looking fighter, though being planned and produced during an absurdly short time at the end of the war. Finn. Denmark

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @mikearmstrong8483
    @mikearmstrong8483 3 місяці тому +1

    "Our training is restricted to 600 kts (about 360 mph) because the plywood wings are glued together and may come apart."
    "We lost 7 planes before we ever got off a shot at an enemy plane."
    "We traded in our FW-190s for THIS?"

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Well, you could say that the project needed more time to mature 😁

  • @matthewwagner47
    @matthewwagner47 4 місяці тому +2

    Sounds like the HE-162 was not a game changer.

  • @WholesomeContentForYou
    @WholesomeContentForYou 2 місяці тому +3

    what game was used to record the footage? thanks

  • @Pucaramodels
    @Pucaramodels 4 місяці тому +3

    You should do a video about the me 323 gigant

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      Sadly, it's not available in the sims I use.

  • @robstone4537
    @robstone4537 4 місяці тому +1

    If the aircraft managed to outrun Wilkingtons Tempest initially it must have been pretty quick.

  • @alyciamarrison2916
    @alyciamarrison2916 3 місяці тому +1

    Most accounts say that the He 162 was unstable & difficult to fly except for very experienced pilots.

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 3 місяці тому

      The design was lengthened by about 800mm after the instability was recognised, and the later flights went pretty well.
      The glue holding it together was suspect, and the engines were often less than reliable.
      This wasn't a problem for a nation willing to train a pilot in 40 hours and if he destroyed one more expensive enemy plane, it would have been worth it, in their opinion.
      He-162 flown after the war for testing were less than reliable, and one lost a tailfin, tumbled and broke up at Farnborough, under test by British test pilots.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      As far as I can tell, it was tricky under certain conditions and it would frequently depart controlled flight. Unfortunately, there are no detailed reports of the crashes which could tell us more.

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 3 місяці тому +2

    GREAT VIDEO, as usual. Preserving history alive and paying tribute to those pilotos who dared to fly and fight for their country. They are flying higher now than during those days. THANKS.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  3 місяці тому

      Thank you once again! Apart from the historical significance, I find the mindset of the people involved a fascinating subject as well.

  • @tjsogmc
    @tjsogmc 4 місяці тому +2

    So, after all that investment in R&D, millions of Marks spent, valuable raw materials diverted to the 162 project, it all amounted to a big nothing.

    • @exeexecutor
      @exeexecutor 4 місяці тому

      Not a big nothing - Jet engines where developed

    • @edsmale
      @edsmale 4 місяці тому +1

      Nothing. Jet engines developed prior to this plane.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому +1

      Well, I suppose Germans could say that for every weapon they developed because none of them could change the final outcome.

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 4 місяці тому +2

    Of course it is a what if, but if the type would made with high quality standards and the engine would be realibly (both impossible at the end of the war on the German side) what could it do against Allied types? Or if it would roll off the line a year earlier?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  4 місяці тому

      It would have probably causes quite a few losses among Allied bombers but the end result would have been the same, I'd say.

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb2470 3 місяці тому

    It was a Last build last Gasp Fighter an it was Perfection in its Design , had it Probs , Still a winner in My book.

  • @blackchallis
    @blackchallis 4 місяці тому +1

    The Tempest pilot Spawn camping makes me sad

  • @redblack8414
    @redblack8414 3 місяці тому

    There is one in the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa, Canada. Quite an interesting aircraft. The jet engine was a BMW if I remember well. Was it the first WW2 aircraft to have an ejection seat?

  • @scottfw7169
    @scottfw7169 3 місяці тому +1

    162 actually looks good in French livery there at end.