4:10 "Its not like were growing up the middle east and we really understand what it is to lose" For me when someone is talking about his pain and at that time acknowledges that others have it worse, he gets my total respect... Big man
Neurosis is a good friend walking you through a bad neighborhood. They won't guarantee your safety but you're in it together and there's no judgment for anything that's about to happen.
I would like to add, that for me, personally, Neurosis is not just a soundtrack to suffering, but it's also some tribal thing, some primordial calling and at the same time a reminder we are all animals to some extent. And that is not a good or a bad thing. It is what it is.
I always felt they did, thanks for confirming that. When I encountered Enemy of the Sun was the time of reading Сlаudе-Fгаnsоis Baudez "Maya, the Lost Civilization". I feel this album so much.
I have the exact same problem as far as connecting with people is concerned. I really have to work, to understand a person who has had a relatively happy existence. Its fucked up and its not something I am proud of. This brother speaks so much sense.
man, now after i`ve learned about all that shit with scott abusing his wife and kids this sounds so much different to me. kinda like all he says has a total different meaning. like a confession in disguise or maybe a silent scream for help or whatever. like when he talks about his everyday struggle with his explosiveness. i mean he kinda admits that shit but of course you wouldn`t interpret it that way. you just want him to be a good person who has gone through a lot of pain and transformed it into art. not a fuckin child abuser. i`m just so fuckin disappointed. i so much related to this guy and his music. now it feels like a massive fuckin betrayal...
Same here. He's a deeply screwed up, volatile and narcissistic person. The best thing he can do now is just keep a steady job so he can send his family some financial support.
"We're fucked, they do what they do. If the decide to bring out the tanks and mow us down they will" Best part of the whole interview, thank you scott and shed my skin, this was deep.
Neurosis is my life. I never knew a band can be so close to me emotional. I'm only 24 years old and I've been listening to this band for 7 years now. I tried to share this band with people around me but no one listens. My gf, ex, friends, family all ignore it. I guess this is what makes it my music. They rather listen to radio trash. lol
I'm in the same situation. I'm 37. Not going to change. My wife understood bands like this 10 years ago but they're not around anymore, but she expanded her mind and likes bands like Isis (unfortunate name), russian circles, Pelican, etc. As far as the other people, you just have to accept it.
@@cliffmcnamara6266 , I love ISIS and Russian Circles, but what I meant is that my people know about Neurosis and how much I love the band but won’t openly listen. I never forced it onto anyone.
Wish I knew about Neurosis when I was getting off of drugs. They're an amazing band full of a lot of heart and soul, and I can relate to everything they say and sing about from addiction to loss and depression. I too lost somebody very close to me to heroin, and it's something that will always hurt, but it's always a good to know that I'm not alone in this world, and that there are bands like Neurosis for people like me/us.
i'm a recovering heroin addict and I often listened to Neurosis when dopesick and in withdrawal. One of the few bands that could help me forget the misery I was in. After each song I'd be drenched in cold sweat. yr totally right that they're a perfect band for getting off drugs.
very honest, same issues myself though this aint about me, but fair play Scott, absolutely real depth,struggle and painful suffering, many people understand this and live with it daily. Nuff respect.
Huge fan, but the two things that stick with me are the comment about how we aren't growing up in the Middle East and how the level and type of suffering a person goes through, but manages to live a life of substance, seems unthinkable to some. But at the same time doesn't take away from anyone else's struggle. Perspective. I also think what he says about how sobriety doesn't change life going on around you. Your priorities change and your health is better but you have to be mindfull not to fill it with OTHER bullshit. That is such good advice. Understanding how an addictive personality works is the best way out of it. Much respect!
Yeah its revealing for sure. Many westerners look down on any culture or society that is different from theirs as inferior and undesirable, so clearly every non westerner wishes they could be just like us right? Haha not really. Many people, especially people in the middle east, dont want a shallow degenerate society. Theres more to life than McDonalds, flat TV screen tvs and the newest iPhone. Loss is loss regardless of how extravagant ones lifestyle is.
Yeah, to your first point, I used to hate it when I was younger, growing up going to hardcore shows and occasionally someone would say "what do these young white men from the suburbs have to be so angry, and yell about"... And there is a point there, they (I'm) privileged and it's good to recognize that, but also, humans are prone to suffering and change, it's a constant. And if you can't think of anything that that group of people may be upset about, I wish I lived in your head.
Nah hes absolutely correct. We DONT have to worry whether where we live is gonna get bombed today. Its not remotely comparable. That doesnt mean the actual suffering isnt. Thats the same regardless. This is a typical depressive persons way of looking at it. I hate myself even more for being so down because theres people far worse off and I still cant get out of this darkness. What an ingrate!. Its another thought to beat yourself with. Hes not belittling western problems as he is in it himself.
I saw him in KC when he did his solo tour and really enjoyed chatting with him. Down to earth dude. All we did was talk football smack on each other. Would def love to get another chance to see him, the others solo projects, or Neurosis again.
I relate so much. Deep respect. I struggle with stress/PTSD/Anxiety/weed related based braindamage. It was dangerous weed i smoked everyday for nearly a year and 2 years prior i lost All my confidence and got my social and sexual related PTSD which is more or less chronic. I sucked a Lot and hurt mainly women by text abusing and multi stalking which is pathetic. On The internet i sucked a Lot. But i relate to Scotts Words, even though we have different kinds of issues, its in the brain, a Damage so for us who somehow learns to control our brains and get a good life is beyond a medal of honor really because its a Damage, its not just something we make go away
Seems so strange that he plays in neurosis ya know a big scary band with big scary men and they like motorhead and black Sabbath but they also like joy division siousixe and the banshees and the swans they seem to have a sensitive sides too and he said there's no darkness without light obviously. cool guy cool band for cool people. I keep forgetting he has kids seems like a good guy and a good dad. Also Steve teaches elementary school I wonder if he tells his students he's in a band like neurosis then they listen to it and it scares the shit out of them and they don't wanna go to school anymore haha
Wayne Toscano They’re all the nicest guys in the world too. Stuck around talked to fans after a gig, very apologetic about not being able to talk before but needing to get their headspace. Glad to see Mastodon and other bands giving them the credit
My first impresion was the same.After show(finished with clense) Scott walked right by me with all this anger,looked scary. Next year i met them in Okland Coolest guys ever .Friends for real. They had it tough for years.Never gave up.No band members replaced
I know exactly what your saying. I am 3 years off of Alcahol. Its crazy when life comes at you. Its unreal. I'm a combat veteran so I drink the pain away..
Can't say any of these interviews with Scott have aged well, especially when he talks about the importance of family or integrity. I used to admire him, but the truth is that he is a deeply messed up and abusive person.
he has literal brain damage. i think people underestimate the effects such things can have. i mean no doubt he abused his family, but we're not his family. there's a time to condemn and a time to accept and move on without condemning the entire person.
You know it's possible to understand and even sympathize with a fucked up person while also condemning, without qualification, their fucked up actions.
What the fuck are you talking about? Let's stick you in front of a camera for 30+ minutes for an interview for tens of thousands of people and see if you maybe scratch your facial hair a few times. Jesus fucking christ
4:10 "Its not like were growing up the middle east and we really understand what it is to lose"
For me when someone is talking about his pain and at that time acknowledges that others have it worse, he gets my total respect... Big man
Identity* politics 🤮
That comment didn't age well.
@@JSG-mw4qr How? Is it true others have it worse, and you still have your own struggles regardless?
@@JSG-mw4qr You don't know what Identity politics is, just repeating shit you hear
It's crazy watching this now after the latest news on him causing the split of Neurosis. Gotta be a ton of demons running through his mind.
This interview takes on a whole new light now.
I will still jam Neurosis but I hope he gets help and stays healthy within his world.
I agree with Scott, the bond between Neurosis fans (and EHG fans) is a very dark, wounded bond. This music is the soundtrack to suffering.
Neurosis is a good friend walking you through a bad neighborhood. They won't guarantee your safety but you're in it together and there's no judgment for anything that's about to happen.
+louderthangod Man, Well said.
+louderthangod great comment.
I would like to add, that for me, personally, Neurosis is not just a soundtrack to suffering, but it's also some tribal thing, some primordial calling and at the same time a reminder we are all animals to some extent. And that is not a good or a bad thing. It is what it is.
I always felt they did, thanks for confirming that. When I encountered Enemy of the Sun was the time of reading Сlаudе-Fгаnsоis Baudez "Maya, the Lost Civilization". I feel this album so much.
best interview so far man, so honest. I can relate to this on so many levels. He's got a great attitude after going thought all that shit.
Same here. He's such an important voice for all kinds of people.
I have the exact same problem as far as connecting with people is concerned. I really have to work, to understand a person who has had a relatively happy existence. Its fucked up and its not something I am proud of. This brother speaks so much sense.
Neurosis is one of those few metal acts that gives me real emotional chills down my spine. These guys are genius-tier.
Just got into Neurosis and man what a discovery in every way possible.
Same here.
Same here brothers , amazing band
I got lucky and had a guitarist I was in a band with tell me about them in 2000, been one of my favorite bands ever since.
Have you heard the grace/ times of grace albums at the same time yet????
@@circleofstone3114 I haven't!
I met and talked with this man a few years ago. He’s a very true soul. Very humble.
man, now after i`ve learned about all that shit with scott abusing his wife and kids this sounds so much different to me. kinda like all he says has a total different meaning. like a confession in disguise or maybe a silent scream for help or whatever. like when he talks about his everyday struggle with his explosiveness. i mean he kinda admits that shit but of course you wouldn`t interpret it that way. you just want him to be a good person who has gone through a lot of pain and transformed it into art. not a fuckin child abuser.
i`m just so fuckin disappointed. i so much related to this guy and his music. now it feels like a massive fuckin betrayal...
Same here. He's a deeply screwed up, volatile and narcissistic person. The best thing he can do now is just keep a steady job so he can send his family some financial support.
When I have a night when I wanna get drunk I always come back to hear his words here. Thank You.
"We're fucked, they do what they do. If the decide to bring out the tanks and mow us down they will" Best part of the whole interview, thank you scott and shed my skin, this was deep.
This dude is on point on so much stuff. You notice he truly face his deamons and learned the lessons. Probably my favorite interview ever.
Ummm, unfortunately no. He's been called out for terrible behavior
Yeah, pretty sad. I heard about it now too
Neurosis is my life. I never knew a band can be so close to me emotional. I'm only 24 years old and I've been listening to this band for 7 years now. I tried to share this band with people around me but no one listens. My gf, ex, friends, family all ignore it. I guess this is what makes it my music. They rather listen to radio trash. lol
I'm in the same situation. I'm 37. Not going to change. My wife understood bands like this 10 years ago but they're not around anymore, but she expanded her mind and likes bands like Isis (unfortunate name), russian circles, Pelican, etc. As far as the other people, you just have to accept it.
But I can't get anyone to like voivod (one of my top favs)
@@cliffmcnamara6266 , I love ISIS and Russian Circles, but what I meant is that my people know about Neurosis and how much I love the band but won’t openly listen. I never forced it onto anyone.
Wish I knew about Neurosis when I was getting off of drugs. They're an amazing band full of a lot of heart and soul, and I can relate to everything they say and sing about from addiction to loss and depression. I too lost somebody very close to me to heroin, and it's something that will always hurt, but it's always a good to know that I'm not alone in this world, and that there are bands like Neurosis for people like me/us.
i'm a recovering heroin addict and I often listened to Neurosis when dopesick and in withdrawal. One of the few bands that could help me forget the misery I was in. After each song I'd be drenched in cold sweat.
yr totally right that they're a perfect band for getting off drugs.
i can listen to scott kelly talking all day long.about life,music,art,philosophy etc.
He found a vein of gold in his mountain of pain. He’s got wisdom working inside of him.
great interview, as always with shedmyskin/hardtimes !
Thank you for connecting to what we do.
imagine if 1/100th of humanity could be as honest an open as Scott Kelly is
very honest, same issues myself though this aint about me, but fair play Scott, absolutely real depth,struggle and painful suffering, many people understand this and live with it daily.
Nuff respect.
so much respect for this guy
Huge fan, but the two things that stick with me are the comment about how we aren't growing up in the Middle East and how the level and type of suffering a person goes through, but manages to live a life of substance, seems unthinkable to some. But at the same time doesn't take away from anyone else's struggle. Perspective.
I also think what he says about how sobriety doesn't change life going on around you. Your priorities change and your health is better but you have to be mindfull not to fill it with OTHER bullshit. That is such good advice. Understanding how an addictive personality works is the best way out of it.
Much respect!
Yeah its revealing for sure.
Many westerners look down on any culture or society that is different from theirs as inferior and undesirable, so clearly every non westerner wishes they could be just like us right? Haha not really. Many people, especially people in the middle east, dont want a shallow degenerate society. Theres more to life than McDonalds, flat TV screen tvs and the newest iPhone.
Loss is loss regardless of how extravagant ones lifestyle is.
Yeah, to your first point, I used to hate it when I was younger, growing up going to hardcore shows and occasionally someone would say "what do these young white men from the suburbs have to be so angry, and yell about"... And there is a point there, they (I'm) privileged and it's good to recognize that, but also, humans are prone to suffering and change, it's a constant. And if you can't think of anything that that group of people may be upset about, I wish I lived in your head.
Nah hes absolutely correct. We DONT have to worry whether where we live is gonna get bombed today. Its not remotely comparable. That doesnt mean the actual suffering isnt. Thats the same regardless. This is a typical depressive persons way of looking at it. I hate myself even more for being so down because theres people far worse off and I still cant get out of this darkness. What an ingrate!. Its another thought to beat yourself with. Hes not belittling western problems as he is in it himself.
I saw him in KC when he did his solo tour and really enjoyed chatting with him. Down to earth dude. All we did was talk football smack on each other. Would def love to get another chance to see him, the others solo projects, or Neurosis again.
I relate so much. Deep respect. I struggle with stress/PTSD/Anxiety/weed related based braindamage. It was dangerous weed i smoked everyday for nearly a year and 2 years prior i lost All my confidence and got my social and sexual related PTSD which is more or less chronic. I sucked a Lot and hurt mainly women by text abusing and multi stalking which is pathetic. On The internet i sucked a Lot. But i relate to Scotts Words, even though we have different kinds of issues, its in the brain, a Damage so for us who somehow learns to control our brains and get a good life is beyond a medal of honor really because its a Damage, its not just something we make go away
Seems so strange that he plays in neurosis ya know a big scary band with big scary men and they like motorhead and black Sabbath but they also like joy division siousixe and the banshees and the swans they seem to have a sensitive sides too and he said there's no darkness without light obviously. cool guy cool band for cool people. I keep forgetting he has kids seems like a good guy and a good dad. Also Steve teaches elementary school I wonder if he tells his students he's in a band like neurosis then they listen to it and it scares the shit out of them and they don't wanna go to school anymore haha
Wayne Toscano They’re all the nicest guys in the world too. Stuck around talked to fans after a gig, very apologetic about not being able to talk before but needing to get their headspace. Glad to see Mastodon and other bands giving them the credit
My first impresion was the same.After show(finished with clense) Scott walked right by me
with all this anger,looked scary.
Next year i met them in Okland
Coolest guys ever .Friends for real.
They had it tough for years.Never gave up.No band members replaced
Thanks so much for that raw and honest interview guys. Could you say which concert footage that was from. Would love to see more of that quality.
This year in Montreal: Neurosis - Live in Montreal 2014
Hanging withThis dude was probably the best experience of my life. Love Scott and neurosis 🤘🏽😍🤘🏽😍🤘🏽😍
Great guy, great interview, thank you.
I know exactly what your saying. I am 3 years off of Alcahol. Its crazy when life comes at you. Its unreal. I'm a combat veteran so I drink the pain away..
Can't say any of these interviews with Scott have aged well, especially when he talks about the importance of family or integrity.
I used to admire him, but the truth is that he is a deeply messed up and abusive person.
he has literal brain damage. i think people underestimate the effects such things can have. i mean no doubt he abused his family, but we're not his family. there's a time to condemn and a time to accept and move on without condemning the entire person.
what a real fuckin dude
Much respect.
You know it's possible to understand and even sympathize with a fucked up person while also condemning, without qualification, their fucked up actions.
If he wrote a book ,I would read it for sure. He seems like a wise, mentor kindof person.
Dude, the commentary on drug culture as a tool for revolution suppression is heavily apt. And no one is talking about it.
As addicts, we must prepare to lose everything we put ahead of our recovery & sobriety.
if neurosis isn't in the rock n roll hall of fame I quit....
the industry doesnt work like that lol
God bless Neurosis.
Honest. Real. Brutal
Proud to be the number 50th (supposedly/apparently) person to thumbs up this video.
It's like watching an alternate universe mirror.
What´s the point of lying bare? art is art and life is life...fuck it..
anyone else get a Jeff Whitehead (Wrest) vibe from Scott?
Wendler recommendation. Good band. This guy needs to push a prowler. Keeps me out of trouble. I'm a dog that needs to get walked every day.
What's the name of the opening song?
8:52-8:55 Shit
song at 9:50 pls?
At the Well
song at 10:24 please
At The Well
Did Scott do heroin? I didn't expect it.
Michał Puchała I was told meth, alcohol, weed
¡LOMBARDO!
The problem is bro youre a fn Raiders fan!. Go Lions! Michigan mfer.
for someone who´s been off drugs for a decade he is scratching his nose/skin off
Have some respect for Scott.
What the fuck are you talking about? Let's stick you in front of a camera for 30+ minutes for an interview for tens of thousands of people and see if you maybe scratch your facial hair a few times. Jesus fucking christ
Fuck. Off.