Miles is literally work goals He went from almost quitting cuz he couldnt stand an asshole boss, to seeing that asshole boss leave the company in shame, so he figures out fine ill stay one more year, then quits as producer and we all lose our shit, a week later he's made official part of the Trypod as talent. A year later, he's part of the try guys. Literally nobody else is doing it like him. 😂❤🎉 RISE UP MILES NATION 😂
You could tell on one of the episodes of the tripod that Ned treated Miles less than. Miles had made a Miles Nation t-shirt and Ned said they wouldn’t really sell. I bought one. Never bought one of Ned’s though….
Keith and Zach talking about how they had to push Eugene to pursue his dreams almost made me tear up...like that's such a hard decision, but like that's real friendship
timestamp please? I love these guys but I'm so busy I couldn't listen to the whole thing. But I really want to hear this part. I love the friendship these three have ❤
I think letting Eugene leave was the most loving thing you could do for your friend. I'm sure that you will miss him but hope every now and then he can come home. He's not going to disappear into the ether like the 'donut'. I look forward to seeing what you guys do with the new freedom. Including Eugene.
@@Katie-lf2hv I certainly wasn't implying that. But sometimes people feel like they are so needed that leaving would be a betrayal of their friendship. Letting him know in all the joking ways here and also probably in more real ways that they are okay without him is for sure a gift. Clearly he needed a push because he kept staying to help them.
"let's take it back to fall of 2022..." "what happened then?" "nothing much except for an event that made it impossible for us to make the thing that we built this company on" man they've been through so much. I'm really excited to see what comes next!
“Our message is that we’re always adding not taking away” wow the fact that Zach had that written down A YEAR AGO tells me that keeping stuff mostly the same on the UA-cam end of things WHILE still having the streaming service wasn’t just a panic button decision based on watcher’s backlash. They’ve had a level head going into this the whole time well done guys👏
@@truecrimenwine489 I also loved that they acknowledged that there are people who cannot afford to subscribe and that some of 2nd Try TV videos will be on their YT at a later date (for free!).
@@munnak3695 There several videos and news article about Watcher Goodbye UA-cam video. As of today that video is still on up on Watcher's channel. So the info. easy to find.
I wonder if Shane and Ryan knew what the Try Guys were working on and wanted to emulate...when they could just join all under the same streaming service Like make our lives easier...
You can tell that their hearts are truly in the right place when Zach, in the middle of promoting his brand new streaming service, fully pauses to praise the Dropout team, and then tells people to also subscribe to them. 2nd Try and Dropout could very easily be 'competitors' but It's clear that both groups genuinely want to support the other. Which, as a fan of both, is EXACTLY what I want. Less competition, more collaboration! (Also, I saw Grant is going to be in Trolley Problems...now Keith and Zach NEED to be on Game Changer PLEASE SAM I'M BEGGING)
The graveyard video LITREALLY changed a personal view on death for me it was so beautiful. I honestly feel like you guys sell yourself a bit short. I cant afford to sub right now but I will 110% support in the future because I know you guys are kindhearted, talented and passionate.
That video was one of the most heartfelt and touching videos ever produced on this channel. It started out as a very silly concept and ended with very thought provoking messages. I 100% agree
I go back to that video all the time. It came out shortly after I lost someone and it brought me so much comfort and still brings me that comfort. I hope they can use this freedom to make more meaningful videos like it
Really hope Zach sees this comment, because I agree that the graveyard video was so well done and deserves more love. The clown hotel one was another undervalued gem!
@@brandichutney don't worry, it's not much of an inside joke. It's just that @7:00, Miles kinda referred to the Ned situation as the donut incident and Zach went along with it throughout this episode
@@TheLeftAloneoohhh haha ok that makes sense. I was going back and looking at the donut without a recipe trying to see if that was released close to….the event. Thanks!
I’m sorry to the Try Guys for the way it happened, but the content was so stale when NF was still around and his departure has really made things feel so fun and full of heart
I am still really mad about the misbehaving donut especially since he took Mrs. Donut with him 😠 So excited for Eugene and for the future of 2nd try! The additional cast has been so fun : )
@@geraldineyorarou2221 I gotta disagree. I liked the dynamic and perspective Ariel added to the Try family and their content a lot. I also don't think putting such an ungenerous speculation into such confident words is fair. Especially when they had so many good reasons to try and salvage their marriage (kids, house, years of seemingly good relationship), and we know absolutely nothing about the process.
The misbehaving donut and Mrs. Donut were just not relatable for most they came from money and it was very clear they didn't relate to a lot of the fan base. Also, their hyper focus on selling his marriage and family as brand for him was a major given what he did and everything he risked from the company to his family was a major ick. I do feel bad for Mrs. Donut but sadder that she stayed but respect that choice even if it wouldn't be my choice.
This streaming service launch felt so thought through and so fair. I immediately let me husband know that he can expect our monthly streaming budget to increase to accommodate joining that platform. I hope you all know we support this and support you!
35:47 hearing Keith talk about being so supportive of Eugene and basically saying you need to leave so you can actually pursue your dreams makes me cry but in a good way. I love the support these three have for each other. It’s refreshing to finally hear that he’s officially leaving instead of hope and pray you see him in an episode here and there. I love them so much. 💙 💜 💚
i so appreciate how you all seem to conceptualize yourselves, your team, your work, etc in a really human and holistic way. like, you work to be a strategic & smart business, but you seem to center the love of the work and each other. it's just nice to be humans with y'all.
Same. Literally just watched Eugene's, still balling eyes out, turn this one on and was like 'okay, this one's suppose to be happy and exciting.' It's bittersweet 💯
can’t stop thinking about how much miles must have known and wanted to say when someone asked him about watcher on a live and the universe intervened in the form of his sound board flinging itself off the wall to silence him…
I just wanted to get on here and commend 2nd Try for how well this was all planned and rolled out. The brilliantly-done announcement video, bringing in a top-notch ensemble to be able to produce the amount of content needed to justify your own streaming channel, having content prepared and ready to roll out immediately, getting in front of the announcement on socials and with this podcast ep to answer questions and explain decisions in a way so as not to talk down to the audience but rather make them feel like they’re part of the process and get them excited to be a part of this new chapter. It’s safe to believe you guys witnessed and learned from recent failures with these types of rollouts, glad you have the awareness and the right team around you to make sure not to duplicate them yourselves. Subscribed and excited for this new era! 🎉
They more low key addressed that they were not planning to do exactly what the "recent failure" did. What they were planning to do with the content on YT and the streaming services was already decided back in June 2023. Especially since they are friends, I assume they did not want to outright call out the "recent failure"
hard agree. and it seems like their approach to work and collaboration naturally created space the for the audience to get to know and love the cast over time before making the official change. so cool!
I'm not sure they realize how much these conversations motivate people consider making exciting changes for themselves, too. They truly thought it through, asked for feedback along the way, and are a good model for growth and decision making. Maybe I'm just a nerd, but I love hearing about the process.
Fully agree, especially because some do not assume that there is a whole business strategy involved. It's not just turning on your webcam and talk into the void
i'm not a normal listener of the pod (just not really a podcast person!) but i found this to be EXTREMELY fascinating to hear about and i loved getting a look into your business mindsets - the strategy behind certain decisions, what makes your company/show unique and the specific considerations you then have to take... really loved this deep dive into the thoughtfulness and intention behind what y'all do!
Honestly Donut deserves all the shade thrown at him! So glad Second Try has come from all of this and everyone can celebrate the growth together. Can’t wait for more!
I IMMEDIATELY paid and downloaded the app, one suggestion though guys! Add a comment section on the app. I just watched the color guard video and was crying all happy tears and wanted to scroll through to see what the community was also feeling🥰❤️❤️
I stopped watching years and years ago because I could not stand donuts for some reason. Ever since this channel became donut free, I've been back and thoroughly enjoying all the new content. Very excited for this next chapter!
same I remember vividly the moment I stopped watching bc something he did in a video pissed me off so badly, I've seen almost every single video released after his departure and they're way more enjoyable
@@munnak3695 it happened twice for me. first was with the video where he explained paw patrol with ariel while drunk and I stopped watching mid video bc he kept talking over her and was generally pretty aggressive. and second was when the guys played a game of telephone where they had to make meatloaf and he messed things up on purpose, and I get that it was to make the video more entertaining, but it was so frustrating to watch and I thought he was so annoying
YES! Omg it had gotten to the point before I stopped watching that I would skip past anything with the donut in it. Then the donut just made me so uncomfortable/annoyed that I couldn't watch any videos. So fake and cringe when the other guys have always been so genuine, even when they're doing a bit. Since the donut left, I watch most of the vids they put out
loving that you’re prioritizing your friendships, AND professional aspirations, instead of acting like it has to be either or! best of luck to yall in the new era, and best of luck to Eugene
I think the beautiful part of this is your track record of being able to communicate with your audience effectively and staying genuine about it. Really looking forward to following you on your journey ❤
As someone who's been banging pots and pans about Fun City (formerly Drop in the City) I am SO GLAD to hear it's getting new legs!! I think I can count myself among those longtime fans who prefer the content that the algorithm doesn't (4v1, Candid Competition, Fun City for ex.), and I'm so happy that the guys are finally getting a chance to do what we've always wanted for them. This feels so thoughtful and honest, and as always, my respect for the entire Try team has only grown.
Thank you for not making us wait for information and elaborating on the differences between the two versions (or pieces of pie). As a viewer who can't swing the subscription right now I am so glad you are staying on YT but definitely understand diversifying. Also the chaos of the last year and a half seemingly allowed the introduction of the new cast over a period of time. Excited for what's to come!
The 2nd Try business model will go down in history as the best, most real, and "generally" wholesome business model of our generation. Congrats you guys. This is truly amazing.
There was a part of me that wished Eugene could just be part time, but listening to them explain how hard it was for him to prioritize his own dreams for them I see why it has to be this way. I understand that. I have a very hard time prioritizing myself and my needs. It just makes me understand and relate to Eugene more. That once again Zach and Keith supported him and pushed him to be himself only makes me love and respect them more. The change is sad, but I truly believe this is the best transition we ever could have hoped for.
Love that callback intro. A lot of us just came from that video. I love the change. Its not losing a Eugene, it's gaining a bunch of people we already love.
The undying support that they all have for Eugene and his other projects and his career, makes me cry in itself. They are all truly best friends, that spent 10 years creating this bond between them on and off camera. May that bond continue to flourish through everyone success 💕
I wonder if they’ll ever do a podcast about how Ned’s fuck up affected them personally, like we know how it affected them professionally… but damn, I was so invested into their friendship. My heart breaks for them still that they lost a bff… but I know they’re on to bigger and better things! Jw
Dear 2nd Try, as a longtime fan, your transparency with this podcast meant so much, and gives me so much confidence in your company. Thank you. Wishing you the best in this new chapter!
I really really admire Dropouts company structure. As a lawyer and a socialist girlie, the model that Dropout has set gives me a lot of hope that passionate creativity and shared, sustainable business can coexist. I absolutely love and respect you guys for reaching out to Sam Reich and modeling their business practices. Rooting for you guys!!
10 years happened in a blink but you guys have been here for all of it, I’m so excited to support your new endeavors. And as a fan, nothing could make me happier than contributing a small part to you guys making the content you want. And that 20% off code really hits, $40 for the whole year’s worth of content is fantastic. Great work!
I love so much when they talk about the background stuff (not gossip background but the business background). When they talk about the reasons driving the decisions and how they brought it from concept to completion. Thank you for being so candid with us!
I remember you guys talking about being screwed by the algorithm forever ago, so excited for 2nd try and you guys to be able to finally make all the things ❤
So freaking excited for Miles. I remember him talking about how he really wanted to work for college humor when he first started getting into media, now he’s a part of his own streaming platform so he can lean into comedy and do what he loves and what he’s good at. That’s huge and so so inspirational to me. Congratulations bud 💕
I am so glad that y'all decided not to let the donut take you down with him. I am so proud that y'all were able to denounce the donut's shitty actions by showing you do not keep bad people with brand recognition just to be successful.
i just know their butts puckered at how Watcher launched their streaming platform and took insane notes for when it was their turn to launch 2nd Try lmfaoooooo
I really glad this was so well thought out, and that they are going to remain on UA-cam for all the fans that aren’t able to afford the service. I look forward to supporting them, and supporting Eugene as he follows his passions. Keith and Zach are great at adapting. And it’s so wholesome to see Zach’s journey over the last 10 years as he opened up and showed his confident, and artistic side.
you should have Ash on a podcast episode!!! so full circle and crazy to have y’all back on the same platform again :’) they’ve always been one of my favorites!!!
Honestly anyone who's been keeping up with the try guys since the beginning- Eugene leaving is not a shock at all. He's been very open from the beginning that the things he wanted to create didn't fit in the viral space, but because of the success the try guys had seen, he's literally been putting off his biggest dreams for a full decade now. He's finally been able to start exploring these things over the past year, has barely been on the channel- this is all to say it's not a shock. If anything it's almost a relief, because now he fully has the freedom to explore these projects, and that's so exciting! I can't wait to see what's to come from him!
Not me cancelling a different subscription to afford 2nd try. THIS is what watcher should have done. I don’t feel alienated due to the change but I feel like there’s something MORE to pay for. Been here the whole ten years ❤️❤️❤️
Literally thought when you guys announced the event all those months ago that it would be a try guys-dropout merger and that your Um, Actually cameo and Sam’s ETM cameo was an Easter egg. Glad you’re pursuing your own journey and that Sam and dropout have been your allies!
Watching this makes me so sad for Watcher though. I really wonder what went wrong that they didn’t think of these things? I really wish they had talked to more people about this. I also wish they had been more transparent like these guys are being.
I also think a big issue is the split in their audience. I see it as 3 pieces, spooky, kooky, and foodie… They didn’t spend enough time growing their foodie and kooky audience, but assumed all would buy into a sub model. Their main audience is there for the spooky stuff, but now have to pay to get the same stuff, plus some extra stuff they don’t care about. The kooky/foodie audience might be excited for the potential, but may be on the fence bc Watcher didn’t really hype up that side of their channel. So they don’t really know what they will get and don’t necessarily want to pay for mainly spooky stuff when what they want is non spooky stuff.
Funny cause I am the Kooky foodie audience and was super disappointed with how they went about it and what they where offering. Like 1 new show about eating expensive stuff. I liked worth it and dream dish. I loved puppet history and they 'might bring that back. Just not fully realized and poorly announced in my opinion.
My husband and I are huge Dropout fans. We saw the 2nd Try announcement and both agreed right away 2nd Try is absolutely worth the subscription. I LOVE SMOKE SHOW! So excited to see what else you guys bring to the platform. Would love to see some fun scripted content as well!
I'm so happy and excited for you all; I know Eugene has wanted to grow outside of try guys for a long time and has had an epic fuckton of a career bucket list he was trying to work on. Your love and support of his dreams is so important, as both your colleague and friend, and it's so obvious how much you guys love and respect each other. It's obvious that you have put a lot of thought into how to approach moving the company into a new direction and expanding it, and I think you're handling it beautifully. I can't wait to see your new material, and watch the new group grow together. You've brought together an incredibly talented group, and I'm so excited for you all.
The graveyard video was amazing! I loved it so much that I couldn't help but share it! I live in Iowa and had no idea about the cheese recipe gravestone. I have a certain dish myself that for one is always requested and second I gift to people on holidays.
They confirmed on Instagram that no. 😊 Matt is staying on You Can Sit With Us (no idea if he's gonna be in videos, doubtful, but he hasn't been for a while anyway).
hoping you guys delve more into the specifics of the algorithm and the specific kinds of content it was hindering. i'm interested how you were able to know what was growing your audience but also driving regular viewers away. the back end is really cool. one of my fav pod episodes still is when you guys gave insight as to how you edit and ultimately the logistics of your creative process. excited for the future!
On an off-chance that you haven't seen those, You Can Sit With Us podcast has quite a few episodes with staff members. They talk about a lot of the technical, behind-the-scenes stuff.
Right ive just watched the graveyard video and got the annual subscription to 2ndtry. I can't believe I wasn't notified about this video as a subscriber. If this is the stuff you guys are making more of, I'm so in.
You probably won't see this but maybe you will, thank you. You've all impacted my life and journey for 10 years. I've been here since the beginning and since I've gotten married, had two children, left a shitty long term job, dropped out of highschool to work said shit job , got groomed twice in that span lmao Thank you, for being a pick me up , being a routine. Having an upload when I'd be sleeping on the floor of my first place . Thank you
The algorithm is seriously such a good thing to bring up. I literally clicked this video and one of my other recommended videos was from Smosh games a year ago that I had never seen before and had only 100k views despite being subscribed with notifications on!
Keith's comments on Eugene is darn near exactly how I've always felt for him. Since he's voiced more over the years to me it's been so obvious he'd either one day leave to fully pursue his other passions or take a long ass hiatus. He did both LOL but no super excited for him and super excited for 2nd Try! One thing I've always loved about Smosh is their cast model, so I'm loving this.
I saw this announcement this morning on TikTok and immediately paid for a year subscription. I downloaded the app. Guys if anyone is on the fence, it’s good. They definitely put some money and time into it. I’m so excited for the new season and all the cool new content. Love you guys ❤
I love the pace and communication of this decision...the way that this has been in the making but it was done in a way that kept the community comfortable. even with all the challenges behind the scenes, this was business wise and performance wise masterfully done. Honestly in awe at the ability to use their channel and the pod to perfectly deliver this messge. Supreme "father with child in crisis" energy
You guys are handling all these changes with such tact and grace and consideration for the growing team and your fans and I’m beyond excited for what’s to come!! The new steady cast is amazing, so glad to see all my faves staying around and YB gonna be in more content again!! Miles is back!!!! And Eugene is moving on to pursue his dreams and I’m so proud and excited for him. I love you all so much! Keep being yourselves and having fun! I just got my year subscription for the app and I’m already living for the new stuff ❤❤❤❤
I´ve been watching for 10 years. I´m glad you are changing as a buisness but I´m happier that you seem to be doing what you truly feel it´s best (including Eugene, expanding the cast, etc)
I’ve had to search each video out, but I cannot be more excited to see what happens. I’m so happy for Eugene and you all are such awesome friends. New era of Try!
Thank you for alsp saying "We're still in a pandemic" because sooobmany companies have ignored this, and as an immunocompromised person, it makes me feel seen❤
as someone who began watching the try guys at 14 and is now 24. i can say that zach and keith and eugene and the whole new crew and cast have been great examples of growth and change and adapting. im a decade older than i was when i started watching but i still feel this love and warmth when i watch the content. so glad that you guys are so dedicated and selfishly very glad you’re working so hard to keep it going ❤❤
The cemetery recipe video was my favorite of all your videos in the last year. I hope that more videos of that type happen in the future on 2nd try. Congrats guys on the new adventure.
right?? and spending what $4/month to make sure they can make the videos that are fun to watch that they enjoy making?! Totally worth it for folks like us to watch/listen to everything they do
I cried watching Love, Eugene. Seeing him in videos again will be bittersweet, but I can't wait to see Eugene. It was excellent idea to have Rachel Mom and Nick Dad play the *devil's advocate* (other YTer didn't seem to do that😜). "Donuts misbehavin', donuts, donuts shop/factory closed" From now on that's how I'm going to refer to the "drama".😆🤣 I can see that you're already rebranding. Looking forward to getting more information how YT channel will operate going forward, especially specific upload schedule info. Miles is so right about NOT burning bridges! You'll never know when or who might be able to help you.😆
I think you folks are geniuses 😅 this whole transition has been well thought out and it has felt seamless to me. I think you have done a great job on the change management! Eugene stepped away slowly so it's not a surprise that he is now ending his involvement. The new people have been involved in various ways for us to get used to them and start to love them! I signed up right away because you folks are the best entertainment I engage with EVERY week! I don't miss any content!
I’m not a marketing expert by any means, but I am getting my masters in it. This is like a perfect example of a company pivoting, and the research they do before hand. Like you can totally tell the amount of thought and research and effort that went into making this possible. This was a very interesting listen from a marketers perspective and also from a fans perspective. Good luck on the new endeavor! Also SO glad miles is staying on
Miles is literally work goals
He went from almost quitting cuz he couldnt stand an asshole boss, to seeing that asshole boss leave the company in shame, so he figures out fine ill stay one more year, then quits as producer and we all lose our shit, a week later he's made official part of the Trypod as talent. A year later, he's part of the try guys.
Literally nobody else is doing it like him. 😂❤🎉 RISE UP MILES NATION 😂
I am a relatively new fan. I know ned left due to an affair. which video/ podcast episode did miles say he almost quit because of an asshole boss?
@@leilanijennawatch his video on his page about why he left
@@leilanijennain addition to the “why i left” video, he’s alluded to disliking ned quite a bit.
Cap stfu with your fake ass reality you don't know that you're making it up
You could tell on one of the episodes of the tripod that Ned treated Miles less than. Miles had made a Miles Nation t-shirt and Ned said they wouldn’t really sell. I bought one. Never bought one of Ned’s though….
Keith and Zach talking about how they had to push Eugene to pursue his dreams almost made me tear up...like that's such a hard decision, but like that's real friendship
I’m so glad those three are clearly such good people that have had each other’s backs ❤
Yea eugene knew what his decision was but out of love respect and "duty" he needed a push out of the nest
timestamp please? I love these guys but I'm so busy I couldn't listen to the whole thing. But I really want to hear this part. I love the friendship these three have ❤
34:40
@@keight808 Thank you! 🫶
hey, it's not sad because Eugene is still a major part of your lives. he's just got another job. you guys made this transition so easy and smooth.
unlike the other guy
That awkward moment when your donut loses focus
underrated comment
Misbehavin' donut🤣🤣
There was no post nut clarity 😂
I hate unfocused donuts
The moment when the donut became a do not
The fact that everyone including Miles knows he took the biggest W out of everyone involved with this change is hilarious
okay but 2nd try seems like the PERFECT home for “who can catch the grease boy” if you ask me
Yes!
Lmao i commented this on the announcement yesterday 😂
GIVE IT TO US
Exactly what I was thinking too!
I don't think I have ever commented on youtube before. But your opinion is 100% correct.
I think letting Eugene leave was the most loving thing you could do for your friend. I'm sure that you will miss him but hope every now and then he can come home. He's not going to disappear into the ether like the 'donut'. I look forward to seeing what you guys do with the new freedom. Including Eugene.
thank you for leaving this comment
lol it really helped me figure out why I was so conflicted. It’s ok - he’s not gonna disappear like the donut.
I love the implication that they were holding him prisoner
@@Katie-lf2hv I certainly wasn't implying that. But sometimes people feel like they are so needed that leaving would be a betrayal of their friendship. Letting him know in all the joking ways here and also probably in more real ways that they are okay without him is for sure a gift. Clearly he needed a push because he kept staying to help them.
I hope when Eugene's projects do launch, he'll be in a video or on the TryPod to brag about it and celebrate with everyone!
Oooo kinda like when people do promotional tours for book launches and stuff. That would be super cool in whatever form they all come up with
Rainie is already a great natural interviewer, she could interview him about his projects!
I honestly need this just so I know when it's available!
"let's take it back to fall of 2022..."
"what happened then?"
"nothing much except for an event that made it impossible for us to make the thing that we built this company on"
man they've been through so much. I'm really excited to see what comes next!
“Our message is that we’re always adding not taking away” wow the fact that Zach had that written down A YEAR AGO tells me that keeping stuff mostly the same on the UA-cam end of things WHILE still having the streaming service wasn’t just a panic button decision based on watcher’s backlash. They’ve had a level head going into this the whole time well done guys👏
As much as I LOVE watcher, this is the point of veiw they really lacked. For sure.
@@truecrimenwine489 I also loved that they acknowledged that there are people who cannot afford to subscribe and that some of 2nd Try TV videos will be on their YT at a later date (for free!).
What is WATCHERS BACKLASH
@@munnak3695 There several videos and news article about Watcher Goodbye UA-cam video. As of today that video is still on up on Watcher's channel. So the info. easy to find.
I wonder if Shane and Ryan knew what the Try Guys were working on and wanted to emulate...when they could just join all under the same streaming service
Like make our lives easier...
You can tell that their hearts are truly in the right place when Zach, in the middle of promoting his brand new streaming service, fully pauses to praise the Dropout team, and then tells people to also subscribe to them. 2nd Try and Dropout could very easily be 'competitors' but It's clear that both groups genuinely want to support the other. Which, as a fan of both, is EXACTLY what I want. Less competition, more collaboration! (Also, I saw Grant is going to be in Trolley Problems...now Keith and Zach NEED to be on Game Changer PLEASE SAM I'M BEGGING)
They were on Um, Actually recently! But yeah, would love to see them on GC
we need an “oops all grant” episode of game changer with real grant, keith, and zac oyama 😂
yeah and I'm glad they didn't shade watcher for the way they handled their launch, I would've felt bad if they did
I’d love to see Keith and Zach on a season of Dimension 20 at some point. Like not right now but down the line.
@@emcake36 All Grant would be Grant O' Brien, Keith, and Ross.
The graveyard video LITREALLY changed a personal view on death for me it was so beautiful. I honestly feel like you guys sell yourself a bit short. I cant afford to sub right now but I will 110% support in the future because I know you guys are kindhearted, talented and passionate.
That graveyard video was so good!! Really most of the videos Zach voices over are so good
That video was one of the most heartfelt and touching videos ever produced on this channel. It started out as a very silly concept and ended with very thought provoking messages. I 100% agree
I go back to that video all the time. It came out shortly after I lost someone and it brought me so much comfort and still brings me that comfort. I hope they can use this freedom to make more meaningful videos like it
can someone please share the link?🙈
Really hope Zach sees this comment, because I agree that the graveyard video was so well done and deserves more love. The clown hotel one was another undervalued gem!
the “go on, git!” bit made me emotional LMAO I could picture the scene in my head of Eugene as a little cartoon Pesto pouting and backing away
I PICTURED IT TOO and couldn't help but yell "go on, git!" out loud while half sobbing dramatically
Keith making me teary.
"I can't let him put his dreams off anymore" - damn Keith, i've never cried bec of the pod but here we are.
It’s making me giggle how much Zach loves that donut analogy 😂
The donut had shit in it 😅
Pls explain the inside joke bc I missed the memo 😅
@@brandichutney don't worry, it's not much of an inside joke. It's just that @7:00, Miles kinda referred to the Ned situation as the donut incident and Zach went along with it throughout this episode
@@TheLeftAloneoohhh haha ok that makes sense. I was going back and looking at the donut without a recipe trying to see if that was released close to….the event. Thanks!
I’m sorry to the Try Guys for the way it happened, but the content was so stale when NF was still around and his departure has really made things feel so fun and full of heart
It’s like he was keeping everyone from being themselves. Now they all seem so much more comfortable ❤
There is a big difference in content! I laugh so hard with the new editions. I never hated ned but its crazy how try guys only became better
Yes!!
Exactly how did he... prevent people from being themselves...and what is this difference in new content ???
@@munnak3695 he had annoying frat boy energy. And the rest of try guys and like down to earth theater nerds
once again, rainie is asking all the best questions.
12/10 interviewer
I wanna see her with Sean evans
She’s a gem fr
I am still really mad about the misbehaving donut especially since he took Mrs. Donut with him 😠 So excited for Eugene and for the future of 2nd try! The additional cast has been so fun : )
They both sucked man they're still together because he makes money that she seems necessary
@@geraldineyorarou2221 I gotta disagree. I liked the dynamic and perspective Ariel added to the Try family and their content a lot.
I also don't think putting such an ungenerous speculation into such confident words is fair. Especially when they had so many good reasons to try and salvage their marriage (kids, house, years of seemingly good relationship), and we know absolutely nothing about the process.
@@geraldineyorarou2221 she comes from a family with a bigger net worth than his
I agree, I rather liked their parenting podcast mostly for her. Shame she stayed with him tbh but not my business
The misbehaving donut and Mrs. Donut were just not relatable for most they came from money and it was very clear they didn't relate to a lot of the fan base. Also, their hyper focus on selling his marriage and family as brand for him was a major given what he did and everything he risked from the company to his family was a major ick. I do feel bad for Mrs. Donut but sadder that she stayed but respect that choice even if it wouldn't be my choice.
Please give Rainie an actual interview show but have it be themed and like make her look like a professional psychologist. That would be so good.
call it “Speak On That”
PLEASE I LOVE HER
THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES!
Please yes!!! I know she started her own podcast but I want the try guys to give her a platform too! She’s so awesome and amazing
Yes we need more Rainie!!
I was jaded about the subscription model announcement, but it is so effective to have the trypod as a BTS debrief of bigger announcements and changes.
This streaming service launch felt so thought through and so fair. I immediately let me husband know that he can expect our monthly streaming budget to increase to accommodate joining that platform. I hope you all know we support this and support you!
If you use the code, you can get a year for 30 bucks. I'm not rich, but I found it reasonable.
@@lucystonerI’ve been looking for the code but what is it?
35:47 hearing Keith talk about being so supportive of Eugene and basically saying you need to leave so you can actually pursue your dreams makes me cry but in a good way. I love the support these three have for each other. It’s refreshing to finally hear that he’s officially leaving instead of hope and pray you see him in an episode here and there. I love them so much. 💙 💜 💚
i so appreciate how you all seem to conceptualize yourselves, your team, your work, etc in a really human and holistic way. like, you work to be a strategic & smart business, but you seem to center the love of the work and each other. it's just nice to be humans with y'all.
this!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coming from Eugene’s video, I had to remind myself that this video would be an excited tone, and not the mourning I’m feeling
I think of this like the wake. Still mourning but a bit more boisterous
It for sure went from tearing up to alright lets look back and forward. They for sure timed this in a well thought out way.
Same. Literally just watched Eugene's, still balling eyes out, turn this one on and was like 'okay, this one's suppose to be happy and exciting.'
It's bittersweet 💯
can’t stop thinking about how much miles must have known and wanted to say when someone asked him about watcher on a live and the universe intervened in the form of his sound board flinging itself off the wall to silence him…
I think about this too! 😂
I just wanted to get on here and commend 2nd Try for how well this was all planned and rolled out. The brilliantly-done announcement video, bringing in a top-notch ensemble to be able to produce the amount of content needed to justify your own streaming channel, having content prepared and ready to roll out immediately, getting in front of the announcement on socials and with this podcast ep to answer questions and explain decisions in a way so as not to talk down to the audience but rather make them feel like they’re part of the process and get them excited to be a part of this new chapter.
It’s safe to believe you guys witnessed and learned from recent failures with these types of rollouts, glad you have the awareness and the right team around you to make sure not to duplicate them yourselves. Subscribed and excited for this new era! 🎉
They more low key addressed that they were not planning to do exactly what the "recent failure" did. What they were planning to do with the content on YT and the streaming services was already decided back in June 2023. Especially since they are friends, I assume they did not want to outright call out the "recent failure"
hard agree. and it seems like their approach to work and collaboration naturally created space the for the audience to get to know and love the cast over time before making the official change. so cool!
Zack’s note from 2023 showed the biggest difference. They always want to be adding stuff, not taking it away.
I'm not sure they realize how much these conversations motivate people consider making exciting changes for themselves, too. They truly thought it through, asked for feedback along the way, and are a good model for growth and decision making. Maybe I'm just a nerd, but I love hearing about the process.
Right!
Fully agree, especially because some do not assume that there is a whole business strategy involved. It's not just turning on your webcam and talk into the void
i'm not a normal listener of the pod (just not really a podcast person!) but i found this to be EXTREMELY fascinating to hear about and i loved getting a look into your business mindsets - the strategy behind certain decisions, what makes your company/show unique and the specific considerations you then have to take... really loved this deep dive into the thoughtfulness and intention behind what y'all do!
i'm a huge trypod fan and it's such a treat when they do eps like this
have you gotten around the "how and why the try guys are changing" episode? that one is really insightful too
As a long time viewer, I've giggled every time Zach says "Hello regular viewers and no one else"
Honestly Donut deserves all the shade thrown at him! So glad Second Try has come from all of this and everyone can celebrate the growth together. Can’t wait for more!
I IMMEDIATELY paid and downloaded the app, one suggestion though guys! Add a comment section on the app. I just watched the color guard video and was crying all happy tears and wanted to scroll through to see what the community was also feeling🥰❤️❤️
Same! I love reading all the comments on their videos. Maybe thats where the discord comes in, but would be nice to have it integrated
Totally agree! I didn’t hesitate to subscribe but I’d love to see what others think about the content. I’m really happy for you guys.
I stopped watching years and years ago because I could not stand donuts for some reason. Ever since this channel became donut free, I've been back and thoroughly enjoying all the new content. Very excited for this next chapter!
Yeah, I prefer it without the donuts
same I remember vividly the moment I stopped watching bc something he did in a video pissed me off so badly, I've seen almost every single video released after his departure and they're way more enjoyable
@@honoluluw what did he do? Tbh I miss it being the 4 guys
@@munnak3695 it happened twice for me. first was with the video where he explained paw patrol with ariel while drunk and I stopped watching mid video bc he kept talking over her and was generally pretty aggressive. and second was when the guys played a game of telephone where they had to make meatloaf and he messed things up on purpose, and I get that it was to make the video more entertaining, but it was so frustrating to watch and I thought he was so annoying
YES! Omg it had gotten to the point before I stopped watching that I would skip past anything with the donut in it. Then the donut just made me so uncomfortable/annoyed that I couldn't watch any videos. So fake and cringe when the other guys have always been so genuine, even when they're doing a bit. Since the donut left, I watch most of the vids they put out
loving that you’re prioritizing your friendships, AND professional aspirations, instead of acting like it has to be either or! best of luck to yall in the new era, and best of luck to Eugene
I think the beautiful part of this is your track record of being able to communicate with your audience effectively and staying genuine about it. Really looking forward to following you on your journey ❤
As someone who's been banging pots and pans about Fun City (formerly Drop in the City) I am SO GLAD to hear it's getting new legs!! I think I can count myself among those longtime fans who prefer the content that the algorithm doesn't (4v1, Candid Competition, Fun City for ex.), and I'm so happy that the guys are finally getting a chance to do what we've always wanted for them. This feels so thoughtful and honest, and as always, my respect for the entire Try team has only grown.
I know this is the wrong take away, but I’m so impressed how much longevity and variations you have with “Try”
True creative talent
Thank you for not making us wait for information and elaborating on the differences between the two versions (or pieces of pie). As a viewer who can't swing the subscription right now I am so glad you are staying on YT but definitely understand diversifying. Also the chaos of the last year and a half seemingly allowed the introduction of the new cast over a period of time. Excited for what's to come!
Them talking about Eugene, made me cry/tear - Now I see his video is out.. I'm not ready... to bawl..
there will be tears but it was well done as well.
More Rainie, btw. I want Rainie on the main channel more. We love her!
She has a solo podcast - it’s AMAZING!!!
@@KateKalnickiwhere?! I need to hear thisss
Seconding this!! Need Rainie in videos with miles
@@kmarapatt wherever you listen to podcasts! It’s called Answers to the Universe
@@KateKalnickiwait what?!! What is it?
The 2nd Try business model will go down in history as the best, most real, and "generally" wholesome business model of our generation. Congrats you guys. This is truly amazing.
Right! Feels pretty revolutionary.
26:18 “…from people without profile pictures” *Zach’s delighted, gleeful teehee*
There was a part of me that wished Eugene could just be part time, but listening to them explain how hard it was for him to prioritize his own dreams for them I see why it has to be this way. I understand that. I have a very hard time prioritizing myself and my needs. It just makes me understand and relate to Eugene more. That once again Zach and Keith supported him and pushed him to be himself only makes me love and respect them more. The change is sad, but I truly believe this is the best transition we ever could have hoped for.
BRING BACK THE PLOG, I loved the silly adventures and errands!!!!
HARD AGREE
Yes! I always look forward to seeing where they go next.
PLEASE
plog??
Help what is plot? I've been watching try guys for awhile now but i haven't come across anything called plog
Love that callback intro. A lot of us just came from that video. I love the change. Its not losing a Eugene, it's gaining a bunch of people we already love.
Not the zoom on miles’ bare feet 😂😂😂 Rainie you are such an icon
I yelled Nooooo99 when she zoomed in on them DOGS 😂
The undying support that they all have for Eugene and his other projects and his career, makes me cry in itself. They are all truly best friends, that spent 10 years creating this bond between them on and off camera. May that bond continue to flourish through everyone success 💕
I wonder if they’ll ever do a podcast about how Ned’s fuck up affected them personally, like we know how it affected them professionally… but damn, I was so invested into their friendship. My heart breaks for them still that they lost a bff… but I know they’re on to bigger and better things! Jw
Dear 2nd Try, as a longtime fan, your transparency with this podcast meant so much, and gives me so much confidence in your company. Thank you. Wishing you the best in this new chapter!
I really really admire Dropouts company structure. As a lawyer and a socialist girlie, the model that Dropout has set gives me a lot of hope that passionate creativity and shared, sustainable business can coexist. I absolutely love and respect you guys for reaching out to Sam Reich and modeling their business practices. Rooting for you guys!!
10 years happened in a blink but you guys have been here for all of it, I’m so excited to support your new endeavors. And as a fan, nothing could make me happier than contributing a small part to you guys making the content you want. And that 20% off code really hits, $40 for the whole year’s worth of content is fantastic. Great work!
I have to say that the cemetery recipe is one of my favorite videos y'all have made. I actually thought to myself, I wish they'd make more of these.
I love so much when they talk about the background stuff (not gossip background but the business background). When they talk about the reasons driving the decisions and how they brought it from concept to completion. Thank you for being so candid with us!
I remember you guys talking about being screwed by the algorithm forever ago, so excited for 2nd try and you guys to be able to finally make all the things ❤
So freaking excited for Miles. I remember him talking about how he really wanted to work for college humor when he first started getting into media, now he’s a part of his own streaming platform so he can lean into comedy and do what he loves and what he’s good at. That’s huge and so so inspirational to me. Congratulations bud 💕
Miles as a try guy is the best upgrade I never knew I needed of him
I am so glad that y'all decided not to let the donut take you down with him. I am so proud that y'all were able to denounce the donut's shitty actions by showing you do not keep bad people with brand recognition just to be successful.
i just know their butts puckered at how Watcher launched their streaming platform and took insane notes for when it was their turn to launch 2nd Try lmfaoooooo
I really glad this was so well thought out, and that they are going to remain on UA-cam for all the fans that aren’t able to afford the service. I look forward to supporting them, and supporting Eugene as he follows his passions. Keith and Zach are great at adapting. And it’s so wholesome to see Zach’s journey over the last 10 years as he opened up and showed his confident, and artistic side.
you should have Ash on a podcast episode!!! so full circle and crazy to have y’all back on the same platform again :’) they’ve always been one of my favorites!!!
With Miles being part of the cast, does this mean we will finally get The Grease Boy?
Honestly anyone who's been keeping up with the try guys since the beginning- Eugene leaving is not a shock at all. He's been very open from the beginning that the things he wanted to create didn't fit in the viral space, but because of the success the try guys had seen, he's literally been putting off his biggest dreams for a full decade now. He's finally been able to start exploring these things over the past year, has barely been on the channel- this is all to say it's not a shock. If anything it's almost a relief, because now he fully has the freedom to explore these projects, and that's so exciting! I can't wait to see what's to come from him!
Not me cancelling a different subscription to afford 2nd try.
THIS is what watcher should have done. I don’t feel alienated due to the change but I feel like there’s something MORE to pay for. Been here the whole ten years ❤️❤️❤️
People theorizing they spoke with Sam Reich: (Captain Holt delivery) VALIDATION!
Literally thought when you guys announced the event all those months ago that it would be a try guys-dropout merger and that your Um, Actually cameo and Sam’s ETM cameo was an Easter egg. Glad you’re pursuing your own journey and that Sam and dropout have been your allies!
I was also really hoping for this too
Hopefully down the road they can release a bundled subscription together. I would be down for that
I was just thinking the same thing. Would love if the big, fun, wholesome YT channels got together
So what I'm getting here is that the doughnut factory closed and now they're opening a pie factory. Makes sense.
Watching this makes me so sad for Watcher though. I really wonder what went wrong that they didn’t think of these things? I really wish they had talked to more people about this. I also wish they had been more transparent like these guys are being.
The problem with what Watcher tried to do is that they wanted to ditch YT altogether, and pull all of their past videos and put them behind a paywall.
I also think a big issue is the split in their audience. I see it as 3 pieces, spooky, kooky, and foodie… They didn’t spend enough time growing their foodie and kooky audience, but assumed all would buy into a sub model. Their main audience is there for the spooky stuff, but now have to pay to get the same stuff, plus some extra stuff they don’t care about. The kooky/foodie audience might be excited for the potential, but may be on the fence bc Watcher didn’t really hype up that side of their channel. So they don’t really know what they will get and don’t necessarily want to pay for mainly spooky stuff when what they want is non spooky stuff.
Funny cause I am the Kooky foodie audience and was super disappointed with how they went about it and what they where offering. Like 1 new show about eating expensive stuff. I liked worth it and dream dish. I loved puppet history and they 'might bring that back. Just not fully realized and poorly announced in my opinion.
I think this is the best advice from Miles. Haha don’t 👏🏻 burn 👏🏻 bridges ! 😂
You guys need to make a tik-tok, reel etc of all the new try guys greeting each other like barbie, "hi try guy!" "hello try guy!"
So happy for Miles. That speech was so motivating.
Okay, but what Color is everyone choosing?😅😅🤣
My husband and I are huge Dropout fans. We saw the 2nd Try announcement and both agreed right away 2nd Try is absolutely worth the subscription. I LOVE SMOKE SHOW! So excited to see what else you guys bring to the platform. Would love to see some fun scripted content as well!
You guys are so sweet, talking about Eugene and letting him go, that's friendship!
I only discovered Try Guys when the donut business went under and I’m really glad I did :)
I'm so happy and excited for you all; I know Eugene has wanted to grow outside of try guys for a long time and has had an epic fuckton of a career bucket list he was trying to work on. Your love and support of his dreams is so important, as both your colleague and friend, and it's so obvious how much you guys love and respect each other. It's obvious that you have put a lot of thought into how to approach moving the company into a new direction and expanding it, and I think you're handling it beautifully.
I can't wait to see your new material, and watch the new group grow together. You've brought together an incredibly talented group, and I'm so excited for you all.
The graveyard video was amazing! I loved it so much that I couldn't help but share it! I live in Iowa and had no idea about the cheese recipe gravestone. I have a certain dish myself that for one is always requested and second I gift to people on holidays.
My real question is does Eugene's departure mean we lose Matt too?
This is what I want to know too!!!
They confirmed on Instagram that no. 😊 Matt is staying on You Can Sit With Us (no idea if he's gonna be in videos, doubtful, but he hasn't been for a while anyway).
hoping you guys delve more into the specifics of the algorithm and the specific kinds of content it was hindering. i'm interested how you were able to know what was growing your audience but also driving regular viewers away. the back end is really cool. one of my fav pod episodes still is when you guys gave insight as to how you edit and ultimately the logistics of your creative process. excited for the future!
On an off-chance that you haven't seen those, You Can Sit With Us podcast has quite a few episodes with staff members. They talk about a lot of the technical, behind-the-scenes stuff.
Stuff like the graveyard cheesespread video and candid competition+smoke show was some of the examples they've been talking about for a while
Right ive just watched the graveyard video and got the annual subscription to 2ndtry. I can't believe I wasn't notified about this video as a subscriber. If this is the stuff you guys are making more of, I'm so in.
Seriously, the thought and consideration that you guys put into the timing and roll-out of everything is amazing. We appreciate you so much!
You probably won't see this but maybe you will, thank you. You've all impacted my life and journey for 10 years. I've been here since the beginning and since I've gotten married, had two children, left a shitty long term job, dropped out of highschool to work said shit job , got groomed twice in that span lmao
Thank you, for being a pick me up , being a routine. Having an upload when I'd be sleeping on the floor of my first place .
Thank you
Hey... Unsuccessful?! I'm sipping Zadiko Teac Co rn.
Right?! I loved his teas.
Zach explained what happens and why it's a "failed" in Trypod 175. Don't recall the timestamp but it shouldn't be too hard for you to find.
The algorithm is seriously such a good thing to bring up. I literally clicked this video and one of my other recommended videos was from Smosh games a year ago that I had never seen before and had only 100k views despite being subscribed with notifications on!
Keith's comments on Eugene is darn near exactly how I've always felt for him. Since he's voiced more over the years to me it's been so obvious he'd either one day leave to fully pursue his other passions or take a long ass hiatus. He did both LOL but no super excited for him and super excited for 2nd Try! One thing I've always loved about Smosh is their cast model, so I'm loving this.
The streaming service you created is the ONLY one I would be okay paying for. I LOVE you guys and what you stand for! ❤
I saw this announcement this morning on TikTok and immediately paid for a year subscription. I downloaded the app. Guys if anyone is on the fence, it’s good. They definitely put some money and time into it.
I’m so excited for the new season and all the cool new content. Love you guys ❤
I love the pace and communication of this decision...the way that this has been in the making but it was done in a way that kept the community comfortable. even with all the challenges behind the scenes, this was business wise and performance wise masterfully done. Honestly in awe at the ability to use their channel and the pod to perfectly deliver this messge. Supreme "father with child in crisis" energy
Bought the year subscription IMMEDIATELY. Been loving y’all since the beginning, will follow you anywhere 💕
You guys are handling all these changes with such tact and grace and consideration for the growing team and your fans and I’m beyond excited for what’s to come!! The new steady cast is amazing, so glad to see all my faves staying around and YB gonna be in more content again!! Miles is back!!!! And Eugene is moving on to pursue his dreams and I’m so proud and excited for him. I love you all so much! Keep being yourselves and having fun! I just got my year subscription for the app and I’m already living for the new stuff ❤❤❤❤
I´ve been watching for 10 years. I´m glad you are changing as a buisness but I´m happier that you seem to be doing what you truly feel it´s best (including Eugene, expanding the cast, etc)
I’ve had to search each video out, but I cannot be more excited to see what happens. I’m so happy for Eugene and you all are such awesome friends.
New era of Try!
Can we talk about making Ugly Keith dolls available for purchase? Or an Ugly Keith zip up hoodie? I can't be the only one who yearns for Ugly Keith.
Thank you for alsp saying "We're still in a pandemic" because sooobmany companies have ignored this, and as an immunocompromised person, it makes me feel seen❤
as someone who began watching the try guys at 14 and is now 24. i can say that zach and keith and eugene and the whole new crew and cast have been great examples of growth and change and adapting. im a decade older than i was when i started watching but i still feel this love and warmth when i watch the content. so glad that you guys are so dedicated and selfishly very glad you’re working so hard to keep it going ❤❤
The cemetery recipe video was my favorite of all your videos in the last year. I hope that more videos of that type happen in the future on 2nd try. Congrats guys on the new adventure.
For how much I watch and listen to your content the price is a steal. I did the annual pass and it's so worth it
right?? and spending what $4/month to make sure they can make the videos that are fun to watch that they enjoy making?! Totally worth it for folks like us to watch/listen to everything they do
I cried watching Love, Eugene. Seeing him in videos again will be bittersweet, but I can't wait to see Eugene.
It was excellent idea to have Rachel Mom and Nick Dad play the *devil's advocate* (other YTer didn't seem to do that😜). "Donuts misbehavin', donuts, donuts shop/factory closed" From now on that's how I'm going to refer to the "drama".😆🤣 I can see that you're already rebranding. Looking forward to getting more information how YT channel will operate going forward, especially specific upload schedule info.
Miles is so right about NOT burning bridges! You'll never know when or who might be able to help you.😆
I love that the metaphor for he must not be named turned into a donut shop lol.
I think you folks are geniuses 😅 this whole transition has been well thought out and it has felt seamless to me. I think you have done a great job on the change management! Eugene stepped away slowly so it's not a surprise that he is now ending his involvement. The new people have been involved in various ways for us to get used to them and start to love them! I signed up right away because you folks are the best entertainment I engage with EVERY week! I don't miss any content!
Oh Watcher, what you could have been. I'm so excited for this new chapter for you guys. I think it's gonna be really fun.
They made a mistake. Their real fans will forgive and let live.
@@KatieRaeRae Yeah a mistake that cost them a good opportunity, that's what I'm saying. Real fans can be upset still too 😊
I’m not a marketing expert by any means, but I am getting my masters in it. This is like a perfect example of a company pivoting, and the research they do before hand. Like you can totally tell the amount of thought and research and effort that went into making this possible. This was a very interesting listen from a marketers perspective and also from a fans perspective. Good luck on the new endeavor! Also SO glad miles is staying on