Casio PX560M piano: The good and the not-so-good :)

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2022
  • Every specification of this workstation piano is excellent. Its capabilities are immense, yet every sound seems bland and familiar.
    Where is the magic of the PX-5S?

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  • @backntime9654
    @backntime9654 Рік тому +7

    I have been using a px560 for years. I don't care about the arpeggiator, synth sounds, or the hex sounds. You can down load better piano samples for free from casio's site, programmed to imitate Kawai samples if they are still up there. I use the keyboard to do one man band work, so I want a good bass sound. The finger basses on the casio are excellent, the organs are usable, and the electric pianos are good. While the keys sound clunky if the volume is turned off, the action is easy to play, and the keyboard is light weight. The horns and strings sound full for performance, and the expression pedal makes it easy to layer sounds. The best part of the keyboard is its touch screen. I have a PXS 3100, and the pianos sound better on that keyboard, but I like the action on the PS560 better. It is also much easier to program. I had a pxs5s but sold it when I got the px560 and it is much easier to work for my purposes. I also have a Roland RD 88, but still used the px560 for gigs, since the Roland is harder to program. If you are looking for a work station there are better boards out there, as the reviewer suggests. If you are looking for a lightweight performance keyboard, with decent pianos, usable organs, good electric pianos , strings and horns, that is easy to program, this keyboard is over 6 years old, but it just keeps chugging along. I had a solo gig today, and the people loved it. I also use it with my band, but that is another story. Have fun.

    • @TheMg49
      @TheMg49 Рік тому

      Hi Back N Time. Good comment. I'm surprised that you found the PX560 key action to be light and easy to play. For me it seemed heavy, at least for the first month or so. Maybe my fingers just got weak playing unweighted, synth type keyboards. Or maybe your fingers are just a lot stronger than most. Anyway, I agree that the PX560 is a good keyboard. I'll probably get another one, or something like it, eventually. My next one will be the Yamaha DGX670 though. I checked out your channel. Nice work! I thumbs uped a few of your tunes and subscribed. I hope that's ok. If not, let me know.

    • @latinkeys1
      @latinkeys1 Рік тому

      It is on the heavier for a keyboard but it’s very piano like. I play salsa and the piano sounds are very usable for cutting through in orquesta. I have pianoteq which is beast and if i want to can take the laptop and have an incredible piano, Casio feel, pianoteq modeling. The stock sounds, i agree with you, hate the organs

  • @almur88
    @almur88 Рік тому +4

    I'm a happy owner of this piano. never bothered by its sounds cause I use it as a midi keyboard with the best samples this planet can offer. what I love about it is its key action and the touchscreen, very useful. and it looks stunning and inviting to play.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      It certainly is a work of art!

  • @bestrickie2
    @bestrickie2 Рік тому +1

    A nice instrument, U play very nicely. Happy New Year.

  • @gregoryosullivan
    @gregoryosullivan Рік тому +5

    The magic of the PX-5S should be lurking in there somewhere, the sound engine is pretty much the same except for the effects section as far as I know.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      Yes that’s what I thought! And am still hoping.

  • @musicaldracula2017
    @musicaldracula2017 Рік тому +1

    Great review mate! Cheers :)

  • @HonorV2ultimate1tb
    @HonorV2ultimate1tb 2 місяці тому

    please dont say it will be your last..... pianists live forever....!

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  2 місяці тому

      haha I've had several since then!

  • @TheMg49
    @TheMg49 Рік тому +5

    I had a PX560 for about a year, and liked it a lot. Only sold it because I needed the money. You're right that it could have better built in tones, but I was able to get the sounds I wanted via it's tone editing and layering capabilities. I particularly liked the touch screen, the audio recording to USB stick in the front, the 17-track sequencer, the feel and dynamic control of the keyboard (though it is a much heavier feel than anything I played before) which took a while to get up to speed on, the 256-note polyphony, the mixer, and the speakers. I agree that this keyboard is for music creators who don't care much about the factory default tones, and like to build music pieces pretty much from scratch, i.e., without using stuff like arpeggiators, backing tracks, etc. It's definitely due for an upgrade (was introduced about 7 or 8 years ago, I think). In lieu of that happening, I'm saving up for the much newer and less expensive Yamaha DGX670 which I've been curious to try ever since it was introduced (about a year or so ago?). Thanks for your videos. They are helpful. Thumbs up, and been a subscriber for several months now.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      Thanks kindly, MG. I guess my final comment would be that the px560 is like an empty vessel. You’ve got to fill is up yourself and that’s a pretty big task!

    • @TheMg49
      @TheMg49 Рік тому

      @@gearfacts Agree. Maybe they will incorporate better sounding default tones if they do an upgrade. By the way, I'm Tom. MG is like an alter music persona or something. hahahaha Thanks and Happy New Year.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      @@TheMg49 Nice to meet you Tom, hope you have a great new year :)

    • @boomshakalaka4335
      @boomshakalaka4335 Рік тому +1

      @@TheMg49 Hi Tom I am also thinking about getting either the PX560 or the DGX670, what would be your option out of these two models? Which one do you think it's better? Thanks!!

    • @TheMg49
      @TheMg49 Рік тому +1

      @@boomshakalaka4335 Hi Boom. I can't answer your question yet. I won't have the DGX670 until around May. Still saving up. What I can say now is that if portability is a requirement, then get the PX560 (it has been marketed as a stage piano). But be aware that the key action on the PX560 is pretty heavy. The DGX670 key action is supposed to be a bit lighter from what I've read and videos I've watched. The heavy key action of the PX560 does allow for a wide range of dynamic expression, and playing it regularly will definitely improve finger strength. But I won't know exactly how it compares to the DGX670 key action for at least a couple of months. The way I would use either of these keyboards is to create original instrumental music. From what I've read and seen, either of them can be very good arranger/workstations for creating tunes. What do you want to do with the keyboard? What features are necessary and most important? Do portability and/or key action matter? How much research have you done on these keyboards? I wish I could be of more help, but as I said I won't know for sure until I get the DGX670. Oh, I just remembered, another thing to consider is that the PX560 first came out about 7 or 8 years ago, while the DGX670 just came out last year. So it's possible that Casio might do an upgrade to the PX560 in the not too distant future. I don't know, but it's something you might want to look into.

  • @islandtony5009
    @islandtony5009 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this review! I've always wondered about this keyboard - the UI looks so fantastic compared to the newer PX-S3000/3100, and with it still using the AiX chip I always wondered if this was the piano I'd always been wanting; but no stores in my area ever stock it so I could never test it out and it seemed a bit $$ to buy it sight unseen. And the fact that it was released in 2015 and has never been updated made me wonder how could it possibly sound as good as the newer models . . .
    I've owned an Alesis Recital Pro, Roland FP-30 Casio PX-S1100, Casio PX-S3000 and have now settled on my new Yamaha DGX-670 (spectacular! blows the PX-S3000/3100 out of the water, but NOT portable) as my home/recording piano and I bought a used Yamaha P-125 (exact same key action) for portability/performing; it's a fabulous combo!

    • @boomshakalaka4335
      @boomshakalaka4335 Рік тому +1

      Hi Tony how does the DGX670 treat you so far lol? I am also thinking about getting either the PX560 or the DGX670, is DGX 670 easy to use? I am a bit concerned since it doesn't have a straightforward touchscreen as the PX560 does.

    • @islandtony5009
      @islandtony5009 Рік тому

      @@boomshakalaka4335 I love it! It's SOOO easy to use. Even without a touch screen, the user interface is the best I've ever seen. There are 2 rows of context sensitive buttons below the screen, the screen displays what they do in whatever menu you're in. And one of the coolest features (so you don't actually HAVE to remember how to navigate through a nested menu) is the direct access button. You press that, then press any button on the keyboard (or even one of the pedals) and it will take you directly to the most appropriate submenu. So I press that and press any pedal and I'm on the pedal settings setup screen (without having to go find it).
      The voices are amazing as well; only issues are no line outs (headphone only) and it's a beast to move around (big, bulky and 50 lbs). But the used P-125 I got has the same key action, line outs, great sounds and weighs 25 so that's the portable option

  • @bandungbusdriver5256
    @bandungbusdriver5256 Рік тому +6

    piano action key 3 sensors.. nice speaker.. 200+ polyphoni.. hex layer and drawbar... add computer daw i think it's sufficient for home studio or for live... and empty left & right side nice place to put another gear like electribe sampler or other synth module i recommend microfreak because it has vocoder... it have potential to be kronos alternative... in the right hand it can be shred like Jordan Rudess

    • @sebastiangomezmusic
      @sebastiangomezmusic 4 місяці тому

      I will say this is not the best DAW controller. I haven’t figured it out yet but it records multiple different instances of expression, pedal, bend, etc. The only way I’ve managed it is by turning off all the mixer inputs excerpt the first, and I have to do this every time because it won’t save my settings to a preset

  • @gregdanielson9086
    @gregdanielson9086 Рік тому +4

    Dude, it seems you need more familiarity with this keyboard, because given the value (what it can do + price point), this keyboard is hard to beat.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      Hmmm I hear what you're saying, but I've played literally hundreds of keyboards, certainly dozens of workstations at this level, so for now I'll stand by my assessment :)

    • @sebastiangomezmusic
      @sebastiangomezmusic 4 місяці тому

      How would you go about familiarizing better? I’m honestly asking. Apart from the lackluster sounds, the thing that gets me is how unintuitive editing is. There is way too much menu diving and I always forget what I have to do.

  • @Dvd7111
    @Dvd7111 Рік тому +1

    Curious if you do a review for the Roland e-80 🙏

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      I really want to try one out!

  • @pianokeyjoe
    @pianokeyjoe Рік тому +2

    Now, Glynn? Did you play this keyboard without external processing? I have come to expect that there will not be too many presets that grab me, but as long as I can synthesize my own sounds, I go for that! Now is this keyboard a true synth? Or is it the limited set of parameters from the CT670/CTK630?? I have noticed no Casio of today has the CZ series or VZ or FZ series level of synthesizer capabilities. Mind you, those are classic 80s Casio keyboards with very basic pulse waves, and yet...

    • @bandungbusdriver5256
      @bandungbusdriver5256 Рік тому +1

      i think the touch screen has deep menu dive and 6 point envelope... six layer and split... and draw bar organ... almost like M1... combi mode... here casio call it hex layer

    • @pianokeyjoe
      @pianokeyjoe Рік тому

      @@bandungbusdriver5256 Oh wow, ok! Well I guess, Casio has improved their 1990s-early 2K foh pahs into something usable for us synth heads!

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      Yep that’s correct. I’ll do another video with details about that

    • @bandungbusdriver5256
      @bandungbusdriver5256 Рік тому +1

      @@pianokeyjoe and it have firmware update and you can share patches on casio music forum... i think it's a cool stage piano+synth... i bet you can get a bargain on used market along with the mighty chrome... it just me as a casio fan... if you like yamaha it equivalent with mx88(with extra iphone fm app)... roland probably Juno Ds 88(it pack with feature)

  • @BawdProductions
    @BawdProductions Рік тому +1

    I love my PX560. I had it since it was introduced. Yes, in order to get the best sounds out of the keyboard you have to do some editing. However, if you like to record then using the sounds without effects works great and then you can shape the sound inside your DAW. I was hoping for an ungraded model but I don't think it will happen.

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Рік тому

    I got the MZ-X500 Arranger and despite the stupid keybed, which is not the worst for an Arranger, It has a dope OS and a really capable and well sounding sound engine with Hexlayer patches.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      It sounds to me like the exact same sound processor in both.

  • @johnny14794
    @johnny14794 Рік тому +3

    I liked it even before watching the video. lol Anyways given the fact it has a touch screen for me it's a big plus already. I must agree the tones are some what lacking and dull but with the ability of modifying them places it at the positive side of the scale. P.S. I can swap it for my Casio CTK-900 if you want 🤪 and you would have to add something extra! JK🤣

  • @dawnr8511
    @dawnr8511 Рік тому +2

    Presets not too bad, but ya could max them up a bit for an ambient style wall of sound using the Boss Wazacraft DC-2w. Good for guitar too. I'd bite the bullet and like the PX560M for what it offers.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I believe so. I just wish Casio would sass it up a bit. I mean did you hear those tired lead synth tones? And those feeble beats? It frustrates me that they’ve released a sports car that drives like a shopping cart :(

    • @dawnr8511
      @dawnr8511 Рік тому

      @@gearfacts Agreed.

  • @sophiebride-gq8fn
    @sophiebride-gq8fn 2 місяці тому

    It looks like Casio MZ-X500 digital keyboard, it's really nice but it's a good music workstation synthesizer ? Thanks Gearfact.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  2 місяці тому +1

      I’d say it’s average as a synth. The sounds aren’t in any way “fresh” so don’t expect any inspiration, and generating/editing them is as clunky as an old typewriter.

  • @channelz3363
    @channelz3363 Рік тому

    Amongst others, I like the distorted guitar(?) preset at 2:32.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      Me too. Still not as good as equivalent KORGs, Yamahas and Roland’s though. I believe or can do better with some programming.

  • @BillyRusso_YT
    @BillyRusso_YT Рік тому +2

    The knob controls are all assignable, the arpeggiator settings can be changed from a massive variety.. you didn't really give this a fair review in my opinion. The hex layer functionality leaves limitless sound possibilities. Spend a few months exploring the different settings and you'll have a far different opinion

  • @thepianocoverman1800
    @thepianocoverman1800 Рік тому +1

    The display reminds me of my MZ-X500

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      Yep it exactly the same as far as I can tell

  • @luhhricofr
    @luhhricofr Рік тому +1

    9:13 I swear they used that same exact drum pattern on the CTK 3500 or 3200

  • @alenk738
    @alenk738 Рік тому

    You raved about the PX-5s several years ago but think "every sound seems bland and familiar" on the PX-560? Maybe the familiarity is because the sound engines in the two keyboards are practically identical, including the effects (although less simultaneous insert effects on the PX-560), and so are most of the samples (the PX-560 has more of the latter than the PX-5s). Also, the physical keybed is IDENTICAL so if you think the keys are clunky on the PX-560, they must feel the same on the PX-5s. The major differences between the two keyboards are the functionality (feature set) and Casio's level of after-sales support. Functionally, the PX-5s is very focused on being a stage piano with Hex Layer synthesis as a bonus. (It's decidedly NOT a workstation and Casio doesn't pretend that it is.) And Casio's after-sales support for it (e.g., stage set-ups and the like on Casio Music Forums) has been superb. The PX-560, OTOH, is trying to be everything to everybody and as a result seems unfocused as a product. It doesn't help that Casio hasn't provided nearly as much after-sales support for it as it has for the PX-5s. Nevertheless, the PX-560's feature set fits what some people want from an 88-key keyboard better than the PX-5s. They like that it has a touchscreen, four simultaneous Hex Layer sounds instead of two, support for an expression pedal, an on-board 17-track sequencer, etc. Most reviews over the years, other than yours, have been very positive. The PX-560 simply didn't meet your expectations.

    • @alenk738
      @alenk738 Рік тому

      Most curious of all was your critique of the arpeggiattor. What exactly were you expecting? A Yamaha style arpeggiator? Yamaha may call what they offer an arpeggiator but it is really MUCH more. The arpeggiator in the PX-560 is a classical one in that all it does is play notes in chords in a particular order. It is almost identical to the arpeggiator in the PX-5s except that it isn't programmable and it lacks a control track, through which the PX-5s's arpeggiator can control filter cutoff and other parameters. And, of course, the PX-5s actually has four independent arpeggiators, one for each of the four tones in a stage setup. But other than programming the control track, how many people have actually programmed their own arpeggios in the PX-5s? Both keyboards offer the same 100 preset arpeggios and I think that is a decent selection. And how many people have used more than one at a time? If you are one of those people in either case, then the PX-5s is better for you. Or maybe get a Yamaha instead.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      Yep you pretty much said it in your comment :) The PX560 has very linear, uninspiring arpeggios and only one operating at a time. It even takes the layered sounds with it, you can't mix any individual parts in or out. So the PX-5s does much more with the same set of arpeggios. I actually find Yamaha arpeggios a bit over-genred (if that's word!). Roland, and even more-so Korg, seem to be the real masters of the arpeggio game.

    • @alenk738
      @alenk738 Рік тому

      @@gearfacts No argument that the PX-5s gets more out of arpeggios (not to mention that it has independent ones for each of the four parts). But the "linear, uninspiring" arpeggios in the PX-560 are, in fact, the very same presets as in the PX-5s. (In fact, the list is very nearly the same in the XW synths!) And as far as mixing individual parts in or out, there is an "Arpeggiator Part" parameter on the Arpeggio screen that chooses which of the four parts will be affected by it, from six different combinations with two of them layered. Of course, the way the parts are divided itself is more restrictive (only one split point) but that has nothing to do with the arpeggiator. Perhaps you should change the name of your channel to "GearOpinions." IMO that would be more accurate. ;->

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      @@alenk738 Fair point about splitting components sent to the arpeggiator, I didn't see that one. I'd argue that my point is still factual though. Casio has never deviated far from the original set of arpeggios as seen in models such as the CTK-6000, CTK-7200, older ones like the CTIK-671 and yes the XW series has basically the same set too. Stylistically It's a conservative collection when compared to the fully-editable arpeggiator of the Roland Juno G for example, or the radiant arpeggios of Korg's Triton series and later models such as the Karma, Krome, Modwave etc. Even Yamaha's low-end PSR-E463 has the benefit of a brief sampler to augment its modest set of arpeggios,yielding far better results than the PX-360M. In view of those experiences I've had with all these other products, it's quite arguably a 'fact' that the PX360M arpeggiator is indeed "uninspiring" when compared with other brands. New users might find it amusing, but no experienced musician is going to be impressed by it.

  • @FelipotheMiraculous
    @FelipotheMiraculous 10 місяців тому

    Mzx500 v privia 560? What would you say

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't know the MzX500 ...not the MX500?

    • @FelipotheMiraculous
      @FelipotheMiraculous 10 місяців тому

      @@gearfacts MZ-X500

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  10 місяців тому

      Oh ok - I'd choose the PX5 if I wanted to pay and sound really professional, and I'd choose th MZ-X500 if I just wanted to have fun and if I needed a sampler.@@FelipotheMiraculous

  • @pcuimac
    @pcuimac Рік тому +1

    No! The knobe are sadly not for live control of the sounds, but for data input. You are just playing DAU here.

    • @alenk738
      @alenk738 Рік тому

      Are you referring to the PX-560? Because its three control knobs certainly do change parameters in real time, at least on mine. And they don't actually work for data input. The only "knob" that works for data input is the jog wheel, but that's not usually called a knob (although it uses an endless controller underneath just like the three control knobs).

  • @rogerpercival5486
    @rogerpercival5486 Рік тому

    Do you do review of research land fantom 08 i like tge 560 better

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      I haven't reviewed the Fantom 08 but I've always found Casio pianos to have nicer keys than Roland.

  • @RecordingStudio9
    @RecordingStudio9 Рік тому +2

    LOL! I see you didn't have fun playing this one.

    • @gearfacts
      @gearfacts  Рік тому

      Right on. I’ll persevere and maybe do a follow-up video.

  • @rogerpercival5486
    @rogerpercival5486 Рік тому +1

    My fantom 08 is more clunky with 99 percent of sounds that are not usable , your using the speakers not going to sound as good as using keyboard d speakers..

  • @pianokeyjoe
    @pianokeyjoe Рік тому +1

    The PX560 is ok. I would enjoy it if it was bought cheap or free..

  • @SocietyKilledTheUnicorn
    @SocietyKilledTheUnicorn Рік тому +1

    Agree they keys felt clunky in the beginning, quickly got used to that though. 👌