@@LawAndCrime did I miss something? This is the second FULL Annie Elise video on LCN. Clearly there’s an agreement bc her page is clearly credited, but huh?
@@raquelm6086 I was thinking the same thing, this is the first one I saw since I haven't been keeping up on UA-cam in a bit. This makes me so happy for @annieelise :)
It is a small town and maybe things came in in the Trial that we are unaware of and why the jurors gave the verdicts that they did. I think they would all also know more information on what happens truly at those parties. Maybe his next wife even went to school with him. Who knows?
I have family member who had baby with double murderer to a couple working in their jewelry store. And she knew his past..... many don't care n marry there monsters n breed
Why did hundreds of women write love letters to Scott Peterson? Why are there so many prison inmates in for murder who have women marrying them while they serve their life sentences ? There are scores of low-tier women who just want to be chosen. They'll lay down with anything and accept any behavior just to "keep a man."
David is obviously a controlling husband. He says that she snuck out , why would a grown adult woman a mother have to sneak out ? Couldn't she come and go as she pleased ? He then says they had not slept together in yrs , but you know we were very happy. No David, I do not know of any man or woman who would agree with that statement. He also admits to watching the friends house and activities. And she had moved on, filing for divorce
@@savjakob7838pretty sure commenter is talking about the amount of detail he went into. That level of detail definitely raises red flags. Just a quick I had surgery and I’m still healing up is normal. Also him saying a grown woman is sneaking out of the house says a lot. It just shows how controlling he is.
If David is doing that nonstop calling every single night I would understand if he was a little mad because his Wife refuses to come him to her children she would rather be out partying… Of he was like that regularly absolutely not healthy behavior but if she’s going out and partying every single night something is wrong with her… That’s not how she should be doing it.
She wasn't neglecting their children. Both mom and dad are equally responsible for said children, if he was home she could go out. The time they mentioned that the daughter called wanting to go home Jaren dropped everything and went and got her.
Thank you the research. However the reporting on this piece is very biased. From the beginning, you portray the husband as the killer. The jury who had first hand information in court doesn’t agree.
I’m pretty sure I watched this trial. David is pathetic as a “husband”. I don’t get that lifestyle but to each their own. Not a marriage in my opinion.
Not really it's just now we have social media to tell us that this person or that person is into this or that. Swinger's have always been a thing and always will, even if you think it's wrong we just hear about it now because people are more open to share and post stuff on social media. But what you may feel is wrong doesn't make it wrong.
My question is when the farther called for her mother to come pick her up at 1:00 and it was 2:00 am when both came home. So how old was her daughter. And did the daughter say anything about her mother’s plans ??
I have family members with the last name of Hogshooter. It’s a common last name among the Cherokee people. It doesn’t mean they’re cruel to animals by any means. You can’t always control what your last name is. Please don’t judge someone by their name.
Totally agree! I used to live in OK and some of the First Nations people there have last names like this that they should be proud of - not shamed for! Like you said - your last name is something you have no control over!
Didnt you say in the beginning that they didnt find anything in her system? That would contradict your opinion of "maybe she took something" at the end of your video. 🤔
This lady did not work was a stay at home mom and was mad that the guy was controlling who was supporting her because she was too busy partying and not taking care of the kids the audacity of him
I was on a gangland case for 8 weeks 🙄 and at the end there was not enough evidence to find guilt so he went free, but we knew he'd done it but there wasn't enough evidence. I feel the same about this. How often were these parties, and if she was wandering around naked any of the men or jealous women could have done it. We know he did it but not enough evidence.
The dog-killing neighbor did it. He had witnessed the cheating Karen for months and finally saw an opportunity. David was just a frustrated husband who had a cheating wife who didn't respect their marriage.
Sad, the institution of marriage has lost its way…Many find it unnecessary, old fashion, etc. Our country has been forced fed a narrative. We watch tv, videos and movies that devalue human life. Our country has grown almost immune to improper behavior. Thank you for sharing the case. I found it interesting early on and never learned its “conclusion”
@@doloresbowen5460 These people were a model of "proper behavior," in which "old fashion" ideas of marriage prevail. This is an indictment of _that_ narrative, not the "improper behavior." It was obvious they could not do it, the model is wrong from the start. "Proper behavior." Sheesh. Preachers and religious types have been doing, and _condoning,_ this kind of "improper behavior" as long as there have been preachers and congregations. Robert Morse ring a bell? Get real.
Yeah, the only red flag I saw when her husband was rambling with the police were in HIS behavior. She "snuck out"? He "caught her"? That reminds me of my abusive ex. Bill and Kathy may have been swingers, but if they were, Karen was fine with it. They were helping her get away from her abuser, imo. Nothing wrong with being swingers, if everybody is a consenting adult, it's nobody's buisness. And if she was "letting loose" around them, she was being super responsible, she was making sure she wasn't driving drunk, and arranged ahead of time to be safe, and staying with people she trusted.
@rockdocandlittlebird you can't be married and be out getting naked with friends, partying, and leaving your family every night - unless your partner is OK with it. It's really not ok. If my husband was out doing all that I would be trying to find out what was going on to, as would most married people. What he did was wrong. What she was doing was wrong too. Doesn't mean she should get murdered but it is obvious why he was trying to keep tabs on her
My friends are swingers, happily married for 15 years. If you find balance in your lifestyle, it is fine. They let the other go out on dates, and also go out together. No secrets and great communication. Might not be your thing or my thing but doesn't make it wrong either. They are about the nicest and most honest people I know.@@kumatobazha4003
@@keithachrem2872 exactly! Unreal how so many people are missing this. 99% of married people would be losing their minds if their partner was doing all this!
You question him going on dating sites but think it's OK for her to attend swinger parties while her husband is at home. Not siding with him by any means but evidence requires objectivability on both sides.
@awesomeaf1 Because L&C is an enjoyable channel until they put her on without warning us in the title or thumbnail. At least let me know which videos I shouldn't waste my time on, L&C
@@heidi9547 Stop that! The UK is extremely violent. All countries have the same horrific crimes. Try learning more about other countries instead of putting down "your" country.
If I ever found my wife nude in a hot tub with other couples I would immediately file for divorce and take photos at that moment. And request a judge to award temporary custody of the house until the divorce was finalized. Now I don't believe him because a man would not have allowed himself to be embarrassed by his wife
@bronxbutterflyrivera78 Your opinion on her as a wife and Mother based on so little information is so irrelevant to the fact that she was murdered. How is that your take away?
@sarahwales6276 no, you misunderstood my comment. As a married man of 40 years to a great woman my comment is exactly what I meant. If I caught her in a situation such as that I would simply file for a divorce. Any man that doesn't do that is a sign of weakness or he's just as bad as her. And any man who hits a woman let alone kill a woman us not a man. Unfortunately with today's youth they don't understand what the true meaning and a commitment to a significant other is
I'm only a few minutes in, but something seems weird about the friends (I think it's Bill and Kathy?). They give off swinger vibes to me. Anyone else getting that?
I think its the husband. But with NO actual evidence against him it would be hard to convict. I think it was in the heat of the moment and he snapped. Why the heck would the friends kill her? When they literally called the cops first. Its him.
I think it's pretty crazy and over the top to sneak out of your house to go party with swingers. Who in their right mind would go hang out where their husband wasn't welcome. Doesn't sound like Karen had her priorities straight.
obviously, the hubby is a very unlikable guy, however, there's not one shred of evidence that he committed the murder. I simply don't understand how they could've even arrested him & charged him with murder his wife. The police absolutely nothing to link him to the murder. I also didn't think it was fair to have like a layer cake of charges going & going all the way from murder in the first degree second degree on a so forth and then all the way down to manslaughter ! I also believe that the wife is a complete and total scumbag going around hot tubbing & getting drunk, constantly with other married couples while there are kids at home. This woman was completely out of control and there's no telling who killed her, but it damn sure wasn't her husband, and apparently 12 jurors completely agreed that he had nothing to do with premeditating her death.
If I wanted to watch a UA-camr in their room with a PowerPoint presentation I’d watch that! Please put it in the title that this isn’t L&C’s original content!
Its so odd hearing him talk about his full grown adult wife "sneaking out." He doesn't own her any more than she owned him. I don't think there was anything untoward happening between the friends, it sounds harmless to me. I think she was probably having fun and maybe pushing the boundaries a bit. Nothing like he was perceiving. I don't blame her after being controlled for so long. I think he's guilty but I wouldn't have been able to convict him....way too much reasonable doubt unfortunately. The theory about it happening at the party, the tox report that you showed here said she had only benadryl, tylenol, and one other over the counter med. No drugs. No alcohol.
I feel it’s also important to note that when there are obvious red flags that it should not be pointed out to the person. They will gaslight and confuse even further. People need to note the red flags and hopefully make plans to disengage safely
Husband did it. She picked up her daughter (sober) and came home at 2am. He killed her and that’s why her phone left at 4:39 am. He left her naked with her underwear pulled down to make it appear like she had been with Bill and Kathy. That’s what he kept talking about during his interview with LE. Naked, naked, naked…Not sure what took them so long to arrest him.
That’s why if you want to party all night drink ,skinny dip around your friends husband’s /significant other’s and stay out till the crack of dawn you should not get married. JS !!He may have been “controlling” etc but in all honesty she wasn’t acting like a wife/mother!
What a crazy comment. He killed her, when he could’ve divorced her, or left her. Yet here again, women are blaming other women for what happened to them.
You're a little to all over the place with your opinions. You said you wouldn't skinny dip with anyone but your husband. But then you said them having a naked hot tub party was totally normal. 🤔
Thank you for your valuable time and content!! David is creepy and I really appreciate your commentary. I am leaning towards David because she came home with her daughter. Who leaves at 4am after getting home at 2am? Just a thought.
To say that nothing happened between karen and the swingers is crazy, anyone whos been cheated on knows how a woman acts when they cheat and she 100% was 😂
Who ever wants to swing, just wants to cheat and play around but wants to keep someone around that is always available at the same time. If your partner wants to convince you of this run for the hills. This is not LOVE.
If there was cellphone data back then, like there is now, I think this would be more cut and dry. Unless someone just outright confesses, no one will be convicted of her murder. Husband is a baseball stadium of red flags, the situation is a tale as old as time, but there isn't any evidence, including circumstantial, that is "the smoking gun".
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Umm, no. If I wanted to watch her crap, I'd subscribe. She's trashy.
@@LawAndCrime did I miss something? This is the second FULL Annie Elise video on LCN. Clearly there’s an agreement bc her page is clearly credited, but huh?
@@raquelm6086 you must be new
@@raquelm6086 I was thinking the same thing, this is the first one I saw since I haven't been keeping up on UA-cam in a bit. This makes me so happy for @annieelise :)
Why would anyone marry someone who was under suspicion for murder? This is crazy
@@laurabealmear9293 this was my first question as well!
It is a small town and maybe things came in in the Trial that we are unaware of and why the jurors gave the verdicts that they did. I think they would all also know more information on what happens truly at those parties. Maybe his next wife even went to school with him. Who knows?
I have family member who had baby with double murderer to a couple working in their jewelry store. And she knew his past..... many don't care n marry there monsters n breed
Why did hundreds of women write love letters to Scott Peterson? Why are there so many prison inmates in for murder who have women marrying them while they serve their life sentences ? There are scores of low-tier women who just want to be chosen. They'll lay down with anything and accept any behavior just to "keep a man."
The way the judge announced the verdicts was full on bizarre. Talk about managing to confuse what should have been a straightforward process.
I thought so too. I’d never heard a judge ask a jury for their verdicts that way.
It was so weird, almost seemed like he was suggesting to them that he was not guilty.
David is obviously a controlling husband. He says that she snuck out , why would a grown adult woman a mother have to sneak out ? Couldn't she come and go as she pleased ? He then says they had not slept together in yrs , but you know we were very happy. No David, I do not know of any man or woman who would agree with that statement. He also admits to watching the friends house and activities. And she had moved on, filing for divorce
I took the sneaking out comment as meaning "she didn't ask me for permission" which is just as bad as the original comment itself
coercive control and stalking
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Would you not be mad if your wife went to nude parties?????
I know right
Bill and Kathy were swingers, and Kathy liked that lifestyle. David didn't like it.
That's what it sounds like. So sad for their children.
I agree
Yep....if your wife is naked at another man’s house...and you're not there..that's not even really swinging.😂
@@Chulita-p4c Who cares
You don't like the relationship, you leave, you don't kill someone.
A grown woman knows her own mind. "Bad Influences" are for children.
@dragonclaws9367 and "sneaking out". This tells a lot about his controlling nature.
Giving his medical history to the detectives right off the bat…suspicious
They asked...
@@savjakob7838pretty sure commenter is talking about the amount of detail he went into. That level of detail definitely raises red flags. Just a quick I had surgery and I’m still healing up is normal. Also him saying a grown woman is sneaking out of the house says a lot. It just shows how controlling he is.
I have a ton of friends who I love dearly, but we’ve never had any type of parties like this
But that's not how everyone thinks.
This wasn't a marriage
Why do women do that, they give divorce papers to the husband but stay in the house with the spouse and 9 times out of 10 they get killed.
In DuPage County IL, judges allow spouses to cohabitation during proceedings even if one spouse doesn't want it.
I know. It’s freaking crazy
I think he is guilty AF IMO
He speaks of her like she’s a child. She went back over there again…
If David is doing that nonstop calling every single night I would understand if he was a little mad because his Wife refuses to come him to her children she would rather be out partying… Of he was like that regularly absolutely not healthy behavior but if she’s going out and partying every single night something is wrong with her… That’s not how she should be doing it.
She wasn't neglecting their children. Both mom and dad are equally responsible for said children, if he was home she could go out. The time they mentioned that the daughter called wanting to go home Jaren dropped everything and went and got her.
16 minutes in, and he has literally exhausted me.
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My words exactly. I think thou does protest too much
😂😂Same!!
@aquiablasingame1831 🫡
L&C needs to warn us in the title that this is her content.
I hear ya 🤢🤮
I thought I was the only one!! Completely agree and I have commented that before
I agree. I was confused.
I like L&C , I really can't stand her presenting.
That upset about wasting 3 seconds you had to waste ten more to comment? Lol. More interaction for this video. Thanks!
I’m surprised she didn’t file for a divorce sooner.
All i see is a husband trying to save her wife from diddy parties smh
No excuse for murder but if you want to take part in a swingers lifestyle and your spouse doesn't, It's over. Get a divorce.
She did file for divorce..
Thank you the research. However the reporting on this piece is very biased. From the beginning, you portray the husband as the killer. The jury who had first hand information in court doesn’t agree.
The jury couldn't get him on murder but the dead locked on accidental killing. Who accidently beats their wife's head in with a hammer
Listening to his police interview - this guy sounds like he was totally controlling and it must have been a nightmare to be married to him.
I’m pretty sure I watched this trial. David is pathetic as a “husband”. I don’t get that lifestyle but to each their own. Not a marriage in my opinion.
Everything is now going wrong in the world because of people who say as long as they are not hurting anyone even if they are doing abnormal things.
Not really it's just now we have social media to tell us that this person or that person is into this or that. Swinger's have always been a thing and always will, even if you think it's wrong we just hear about it now because people are more open to share and post stuff on social media. But what you may feel is wrong doesn't make it wrong.
as soon as he walked in on crutches i recall the story...hes lying about the knee issue...
Sometimes you just have to move on.....
Like O J's face when jury said "not guilty", this guys face says it all...too bad, justice not done here.
Why on earth would you get naked with your neighbors with or without your husband but especially without him …
OMG!!! Stop TALKING!!! Him that is..
This case is just nuts, where are the children and why isn’t any of them in this, they knew what was up! They lived in that house! Small town crap
My question is when the farther called for her mother to come pick her up at 1:00 and it was 2:00 am when both came home. So how old was her daughter. And did the daughter say anything about her mother’s plans ??
I was wondering the same thing. I think David set that whole thing in motion by coaxing his daughter to call. He’s a monster.
I would imagine his children were somewhat afraid of him also especially the girls
Annie waffles too much! I had to skip most of the video because I was sick of hearing her droning on for no reason.
Yes 😩
I have family members with the last name of Hogshooter. It’s a common last name among the Cherokee people. It doesn’t mean they’re cruel to animals by any means. You can’t always control what your last name is. Please don’t judge someone by their name.
Totally agree! I used to live in OK and some of the First Nations people there have last names like this that they should be proud of - not shamed for! Like you said - your last name is something you have no control over!
Didnt you say in the beginning that they didnt find anything in her system? That would contradict your opinion of "maybe she took something" at the end of your video. 🤔
It is A theory and not one she agreed on.
The detective asked him what happened to your leg. He gave him a precise answer
This lady did not work was a stay at home mom and was mad that the guy was controlling who was supporting her because she was too busy partying and not taking care of the kids the audacity of him
Wow this says a lot
I was on a gangland case for 8 weeks 🙄 and at the end there was not enough evidence to find guilt so he went free, but we knew he'd done it but there wasn't enough evidence. I feel the same about this. How often were these parties, and if she was wandering around naked any of the men or jealous women could have done it. We know he did it but not enough evidence.
He got away with murder. Very sad
I think the police were always watching him through the years. I think they were concerned for the second wife so arrested him to save her.
The dog-killing neighbor did it. He had witnessed the cheating Karen for months and finally saw an opportunity. David was just a frustrated husband who had a cheating wife who didn't respect their marriage.
So take the evidence you have to prove this claim to Police.
@@sarahwales6276 Just a theory, my opinion 🙄😂
$2k to file yourself 😮😮😮😮
Creepy guy losing his wife lashes out, happens daily
Controlling jealous loser
These stories don't make the news in America it would be front page in the UK 😂
Bc it would be a new story everyday and it would make marriage look bad
Much smaller country.
Sad, the institution of marriage has lost its way…Many find it unnecessary, old fashion, etc. Our country has been forced fed a narrative. We watch tv, videos and movies that devalue human life. Our country has grown almost immune to improper behavior.
Thank you for sharing the case. I found it interesting early on and never learned its “conclusion”
@@doloresbowen5460 These people were a model of "proper behavior," in which "old fashion" ideas of marriage prevail. This is an indictment of _that_ narrative, not the "improper behavior." It was obvious they could not do it, the model is wrong from the start.
"Proper behavior." Sheesh. Preachers and religious types have been doing, and _condoning,_ this kind of "improper behavior" as long as there have been preachers and congregations. Robert Morse ring a bell? Get real.
Yeah, the only red flag I saw when her husband was rambling with the police were in HIS behavior. She "snuck out"? He "caught her"? That reminds me of my abusive ex. Bill and Kathy may have been swingers, but if they were, Karen was fine with it. They were helping her get away from her abuser, imo. Nothing wrong with being swingers, if everybody is a consenting adult, it's nobody's buisness. And if she was "letting loose" around them, she was being super responsible, she was making sure she wasn't driving drunk, and arranged ahead of time to be safe, and staying with people she trusted.
Exactly.
@rockdocandlittlebird you can't be married and be out getting naked with friends, partying, and leaving your family every night - unless your partner is OK with it. It's really not ok. If my husband was out doing all that I would be trying to find out what was going on to, as would most married people. What he did was wrong. What she was doing was wrong too. Doesn't mean she should get murdered but it is obvious why he was trying to keep tabs on her
My friends are swingers, happily married for 15 years. If you find balance in your lifestyle, it is fine. They let the other go out on dates, and also go out together. No secrets and great communication. Might not be your thing or my thing but doesn't make it wrong either. They are about the nicest and most honest people I know.@@kumatobazha4003
Love your channel. I don't ever comment but I like & watch every episode. Thank you.
The tox report said she had no illegal drugs in her system: Benadryl, Tylenol and caffeine.
People often accuse there spouse of being controlling when they are running over the boundaries with a Mack truck and acting outside the marriage
@@keithachrem2872 exactly! Unreal how so many people are missing this. 99% of married people would be losing their minds if their partner was doing all this!
You question him going on dating sites but think it's OK for her to attend swinger parties while her husband is at home. Not siding with him by any means but evidence requires objectivability on both sides.
Hes a sociopath/psychopath to the core of his soul(if he has one)..
Wait you are on Law and Crime now ??? Way to go Annie🎉🎉Congratulations!
That's what I just said to my daughter. Told her look my girl on Law and Crime now. That's a big deal❤
She's been on for a while, and it's awful. I cannot stand her content.
@@Lumagathan why are you here?
@awesomeaf1 Because L&C is an enjoyable channel until they put her on without warning us in the title or thumbnail. At least let me know which videos I shouldn't waste my time on, L&C
@ ok that’s fair
The group was known as The Pink Poodles of Dyersburg Tn….but that is no excuse for murder…JUST DIVORCE!!!! 🤦🏼♀️
Those detectives invoking their right to remain silent 😂
I see why people like this stuff. It’s basically just gossip and projection mixed with crime
Our Country is extremely Violent.
@@heidi9547There are hundreds of countries in this world, which one are you talking about?
And most likely why you're here as well.
@@heidi9547 Stop that! The UK is extremely violent. All countries have the same horrific crimes.
Try learning more about other countries instead of putting down "your" country.
@@mhibbing1 you’re the reason why people hate the internet
I'm sorry but if my husband wasn't invited I would not go. When your married your married. Both these people did not take marriage serious
How is that your take away from this case?
@sarahwales6276 how do you have time to respond to every single comment on this video 😂😂😂
Hi Annie!! Great to see you here!😊❤
Talk about evil appearances.why would you be naked with strange people. Yes that’s overly weird. I have never been naked with my friends.
I'm suspecting him.
He has a hand there.
Murder is never okay but she couldn’t wait till the divorce? Don’t do this when you have a whole family.
If I ever found my wife nude in a hot tub with other couples I would immediately file for divorce and take photos at that moment. And request a judge to award temporary custody of the house until the divorce was finalized. Now I don't believe him because a man would not have allowed himself to be embarrassed by his wife
Absolutely. She should of never gotten married, she was not acting like a wife or mom. I’m sorry
@bronxbutterflyrivera78 I agree 👍
Plenty of men allow themselves to be embarrassed by their wife, why not him?
@bronxbutterflyrivera78 Your opinion on her as a wife and Mother based on so little information is so irrelevant to the fact that she was murdered. How is that your take away?
@sarahwales6276 no, you misunderstood my comment. As a married man of 40 years to a great woman my comment is exactly what I meant. If I caught her in a situation such as that I would simply file for a divorce. Any man that doesn't do that is a sign of weakness or he's just as bad as her. And any man who hits a woman let alone kill a woman us not a man. Unfortunately with today's youth they don't understand what the true meaning and a commitment to a significant other is
Didn't even realize this was law and crime... "serialously" 😂😂😂😂😂 wow
I'm only a few minutes in, but something seems weird about the friends (I think it's Bill and Kathy?). They give off swinger vibes to me.
Anyone else getting that?
Okay and why does it matter if they are swingers?
Definitely felt like they were swingers,just a few minutes in. No judgement whatsoever, but I did notice it right away.
It's irrelevant to the case.
They were swingers.
Karen probably was going to move into the house with them.
Time is precious making short story very long
Noone is forcing you to be here 🤷🏽♀️
So watch a brief summary of the case.
I think its the husband. But with NO actual evidence against him it would be hard to convict. I think it was in the heat of the moment and he snapped. Why the heck would the friends kill her? When they literally called the cops first. Its him.
This guy sounds like Flanders off The Simpsons, oh no!!😂😂😂
I think it's pretty crazy and over the top to sneak out of your house to go party with swingers. Who in their right mind would go hang out where their husband wasn't welcome. Doesn't sound like Karen had her priorities straight.
“Sneaking out “ she’s a grown woman ??
obviously, the hubby is a very unlikable guy, however, there's not one shred of evidence that he committed the murder. I simply don't understand how they could've even arrested him & charged him with murder his wife. The police absolutely nothing to link him to the murder. I also didn't think it was fair to have like a layer cake of charges going & going all the way from murder in the first degree second degree on a so forth and then all the way down to manslaughter ! I also believe that the wife is a complete and total scumbag going around hot tubbing & getting drunk, constantly with other married couples while there are kids at home. This woman was completely out of control and there's no telling who killed her, but it damn sure wasn't her husband, and apparently 12 jurors completely agreed that he had nothing to do with premeditating her death.
No, the Jurors agree they saw no evidence that proved beyond a reasonable doubt he did it. There's a difference.
If I wanted to watch a UA-camr in their room with a PowerPoint presentation I’d watch that! Please put it in the title that this isn’t L&C’s original content!
Has the thought of clicking off never occurred to you? Why do you let it effect you to this degree?
Toxicology stated no drugs or alcohol…I believe it was in part of the narrative.
Gosh, what a horrible take. Dismissing such obvious adultry
How did she get on this UA-cam channel? Not complaining, Im just surprised because she has her own channel
Law and Crime pay her to be able to air her videos here too 😊
The presentation photo gives off something strange, his look, his arm on his wife as if to say "" it's mine""
Its so odd hearing him talk about his full grown adult wife "sneaking out." He doesn't own her any more than she owned him. I don't think there was anything untoward happening between the friends, it sounds harmless to me. I think she was probably having fun and maybe pushing the boundaries a bit. Nothing like he was perceiving. I don't blame her after being controlled for so long. I think he's guilty but I wouldn't have been able to convict him....way too much reasonable doubt unfortunately.
The theory about it happening at the party, the tox report that you showed here said she had only benadryl, tylenol, and one other over the counter med. No drugs. No alcohol.
Maybe he considers sneaking out leaving without telling your spouse which is what it sounds like
The gossip might be true but friends not helping her they made it worst for her its not like he doesn't know where they live
It could have been anyone! No evidence
This reminds of the missing San Antonio woman. Has been charged, but body not found.
I feel it’s also important to note that when there are obvious red flags that it should not be pointed out to the person. They will gaslight and confuse even further. People need to note the red flags and hopefully make plans to disengage safely
David is trying to sound so innocent!
Look how big that baby is compared to the little mom, wow! She's growing up so pretty
Husband did it. She picked up her daughter (sober) and came home at 2am. He killed her and that’s why her phone left at 4:39 am. He left her naked with her underwear pulled down to make it appear like she had been with Bill and Kathy. That’s what he kept talking about during his interview with LE. Naked, naked, naked…Not sure what took them so long to arrest him.
That’s why if you want to party all night drink ,skinny dip around your friends husband’s /significant other’s and stay out till the crack of dawn you should not get married. JS !!He may have been “controlling” etc but in all honesty she wasn’t acting like a wife/mother!
I agree! My husband would NEVER put up with that.
He wasn't just controlling he murdered her, and your focus is on your opinion of her parenting?
@@bronwyn117You have no idea what was going on in their home and what she was dealing with.
What a crazy comment. He killed her, when he could’ve divorced her, or left her. Yet here again, women are blaming other women for what happened to them.
@@sarahwales6276exactly. These comments are sickening.
Bill and Kathy seem shady. Her husband doesn’t seem upset or unhinged. I think u are biased against the husband.
I chose this one cuz Annie didn’t have any new episodes … than bam lol here she is on law and crime
I was sooooooooooo confused why Annie was in this video I thought that there was a mix up lol that is soooo cool I’m so so proud of her
Malcolm.. come back down to Earth, dude..
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Agreed.
I don't believe this story is true. These people are too civilized to even do such a thing😂😂
I wish there was a warning in tye title... i can't bear this girlie put on
Yeah well I wish you could type a coherent sentence,yet here we are 🤷🏽♀️
You need a warning? To click off after 3 seconds? You need L&C to prompt you to perform that basic task...
All behavior of these folks is wrong… stinks for everyone
Im sorry i watch shows like this ALL day, after 10 min of hearing you, what are you even talking about
You're a little to all over the place with your opinions. You said you wouldn't skinny dip with anyone but your husband. But then you said them having a naked hot tub party was totally normal. 🤔
What's so hard to understand, she wouldn't but to each his own... pretty simple
lol 😂 I caught that too.
@@bronxbutterflyrivera78You didn't catch it, you simply didn't comprehend what was said.
Thank you for your valuable time and content!! David is creepy and I really appreciate your commentary. I am leaning towards David because she came home with her daughter. Who leaves at 4am after getting home at 2am? Just a thought.
This case is wild! The guy poisoned neighborhood dogs?! Did they look into him?
It might been that he went on to see if she had put out information on her part,,for dating. It makes sense to me
Ugh a wife doesn’t “sneak out” of her own damn home. David’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard
Wait ,, back up the police officer ask him about his leg. Don’t make it sound like he was just talking
The policeman ask him if every thing was ok between him his wife
this isn't a new case if it happened it 2011.
It doesnt say it is new
Um yeah - we know that from the video both in the description and the dialog. But thanks for the memo for those not paying attention.
You posted this comment 1h ago.
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I was going to chime in, but then I noticed this thread is from Jan 4, 2025.
Law and crime has a contract with her now? Or is my UA-cam messing up
Yes they have a contract to share Annie's videos here on Law & Crime Network ☺️
To say that nothing happened between karen and the swingers is crazy, anyone whos been cheated on knows how a woman acts when they cheat and she 100% was 😂
I literally had to get a ad blocker and it’s free. I couldn’t deal with all these damn ads. There’s one ad at the beginning. It’s a beautiful thing
Out of all of her videos I’m so disappointed you chose to share this one! Her reporting on this is so disappointing!!!
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Pathetic jury.
Narrator double standard 😂. Being naked on front other people is freedom of choice but husband calling his wife no.
She never said that.
@sarahwales6276 she said a husband calling his wife 26 time is a red flag and not normal
Who ever wants to swing, just wants to cheat and play around but wants to keep someone around that is always available at the same time. If your partner wants to convince you of this run for the hills. This is not LOVE.
If there was cellphone data back then, like there is now, I think this would be more cut and dry. Unless someone just outright confesses, no one will be convicted of her murder. Husband is a baseball stadium of red flags, the situation is a tale as old as time, but there isn't any evidence, including circumstantial, that is "the smoking gun".