Flat Earther Gets Called Out in Public
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Flat Earther Gets Called Out in Public
Today on flat Earth Friday we take a look at Del from Beyond the Imaginary Curve. He is a flat Earther who likes to interview the public about flat Earth.
It is all going swimmingly until one of his interviewee's actually calls Del out for his tactics. It's brilliant!
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"top-shelf goods" wondered what you were flogging there for a sec mate.
I need a new SciManDan shirt. It's been almost 3 years since the last. Great content once again, also just a quick reminder that Earth holds hollow interiors..but you know that, right Dan!?
I took a Dr. Peel t-shirt to KH Dinosaurland
Paid out sponsorship crap.
Stop using Patreon if your going to keep using sponsors in your videos.
@@angie420 You mean caverns, yes?
The only person who was "triggered" after he was called out was him. Fair play to the young man for calling out his manipulative rubbish
Hahaha this reminds me of that infamous clip from Hbomberguys flat earth video, he shows that loony arguing in public in a cringey way wearing that insane "lunar lander or homeless tweakers shelter" shirt
He thinks he's owning people but everyone thinks he's a drug addled hobo
My guess is that, if that student mentioned "projection" at any point, Del would have assaulted him and call him violent!
Del seems to live triggered
Exactly.. him keep saying « you appeared triggered » to a guy who clearly wasnt was simply a combo of hope and projection.
I’m not triggered, you’re triggered!!
You am not!
If a random guy stopped me in the street and started asking these questions I wouldn't be stopping to give him sensible answers. This student has more patience than I do.
He frames it like he's doing some study. If it's a university campus, it could be relatively common sight.
@@jawstrock2215 to believe in flerf and get accepted to a college/university would seriously make me reconsider my attendance
@@STEVENFRYFRY hibbeler productions channel may help
Exactly. Then Del says 'can you give me specifics' well, sure he could if Del rewound the video, and the chap called our Del's pseudo blather as he heard it, but then the poor chap would have to double the amount of time he's already spent, and to be fair, he's been a sport spending any time listening to that rubbish.
It looks like the area around Kelvingrove Park which is right beside Glasgow University so you can occasionally get stopped.
"Hello, I'm a flat earther. Could you prove to me the earth is a globe?"
"Shouldn't you be the one proving to me that it's flat?"
The theory book says 2+2=4
They know that won't work because their theories are too simplified. They want average people to discuss how we know the earth is a globe without repeating other people's findings. It's a dumb trap they they think is clever.
Not a flat earther but it is a valid mathematical method. Proof by contradiction. You prove something is or isn't true by assuming the result is the opposite of what you expect and try and find a case where it can not be true
@@seamonkeys12y a holistic scientific theory is not a mathematical proof, though. Even if you could disprove some aspect of the globe earth model, it wouldn't all just come crumbling down, it would just be modified slightly. The flat earther would have to demonstrate that no aspect of the accepted model was true -- not a single observation or equation left standing -- just to get on an equal footing with it.
@@seamonkeys12y . That CAN work however, it doesn’t apply here. This isn’t an untested hypothesis accepted as fact/likely (like aether was at one point), Earth has be shown to be a globe with many experiments, repeated and verified by others. In the context of the OP, At this point, with the amount of supporting evidence, the responsibility for proof falls on the Flat Earther. Also, the main issue for flat earthers using the method you have shown is that they stop at the assuming part, so not particularly effective.
That was actually a hell of a payoff. That kid is smart beyond his years. Sticking a camera in your face and proceeding to talk as if he is some kind of authoritarian on a daft subject that was debunked thousands of years ago.
why smart beyond his years? he looks like an adult to me?
@@perfect_harmony4348 Who said he wasn't an adult?
@@theindiediary5950 "that kid is smart beyond his years"? what does this imply?
@@perfect_harmony4348 that he’s wise
What makes me laugh is when the people doing this say "I'm trying to be objective". No, you're not. You're coming up to someone having already made up your mind about it, and now you're trying to convince them that you're right. That's not objectivity. That's the exact opposite of it. That's proselytizing.
"Have you done this experiment yourself?"
"No....But flat earthers have and proved its curved"
My flat earther question back - “So do you use electricity in your home? Then can you explain to me how electricity works exactly, have you done experiments with electricity or do you just plug the toaster in and cross your fingers?”
Right. I often ask if they have seen an electron when they talk about how you should believe in anything "unless yuz seen it".
So we can discard EVIDENCE and wallow in ignorance, Del?
The response is normally crying and deflection.
i would just ask him, why is he using things science created.. but don't trust science when it tells him earth is round?... these people should be deprived of EVERYTHING science related.
Internet, cellphones, telephones, ovens, a kitchen, and whatever else they own which has been created by science. Why would they believe it if its the same source that tell them lies about the shape of the earth?
@@WastedTalent83 FE is about their ability to reject explanations and so choose an alternative reality for themselves in which they are more important. They won't give it up (in 99.9% cases). They aren't strong enough.
The simple answer is: EVERYTHING successfully functions MATHEMATICALLY based on physics, gravity, "globe theory".
*It ALL ADDS UP* to the exact decimal point, however deep one takes it.
Flats arrogantly denounce all scientific explanation while NEVER creating a functioning model supported by anything beyond fantasy theory.
@@TTOMO2x1-1 Yes. All interaction with them is basically them making claims and then dodging when you tell them to support them. You see it in every thread from a FE. Every phrase from Del's mouth is an emotional fallacy and a dodge.
“You’re getting triggered” says the guy whose starting to raise his voice.
The microphone is more closer to him.
That’s what we call self projecting. Children do this, I’m not upset you are! Shut up you daft flat Earther! It’s always the people with no lives spouting this bull shit.
Denial is hell of a defense mechanism
@@WilsonFox123 In terms of distance or IQ?
Smart student. Seeing through this guy’s bs. He’s really trying to push his own narrative just too desperately. I personally wouldn’t have the patience with a random guy spouting nonsense.
If Del was a lawyer in court and he talked to witnesses the same way, then he would be actually leading the witness into making a statement that they would not say otherwise. It is manipulative.
@Jesus Jones - TF?
@Jesus Jones - Your comment left me somewhat puzzled so I was reacting to that puzzlement. Wondering if you could elaborate.
I wouldn't have the self control to not laugh at him for saying, "If I can't see it, it doesn't exist."
If somebody started out a conversation with "What would you say to convince me to believe in something I don't believe in?", I would probably just say "Nothing. You've made up your mind already. I can't do anything but pity you."
People need to have Critical, Unbiased, Skepticism.
The problem is the Globe is actually a cult and a religion also if someone is a atheist then they ironically believe that there is no god even though they can't prove/give evidence of why a god can't exist or creator.
I'd tell him what my good ol Mexican brothers say to hecklers;
"I don't want to hear you tell me about your politics. Yes, yes, I know. 4uck off."
And
"¡No chinges! Haste a la madre."
For anyone having difficulty understanding what’s being said at the end between Del and the blonde haired lad.
Lad: I just don’t think people like being manipulated....with fancy words.
Del: Do you think I’m manipulating you?
Lad: Just a wee (little) bit. I think you’re trying to get a reaction out of us.
Del: Do you think so?
Lad: Yeah I do.
Del: Can you give me specifics?
Lad: I do. I think you’re standing there with that camera out there and you’re saying these fancy words and I just think you’re trying to get a reaction out of us to be honest.
Del: But give me specifics.
Lad: I can just see it. You’re asking me these questions and you’re looking for that silence.
Del: Well I can say that you’re triggered. And you have no specifics and no rational reasoning to offer me about why you just made that statement. And I think that’s your own ignorance.
Lad: You can think that if you want.
Del: Because you’re triggered emotionally. And I’m not emotional, I’m trying to be objective. I’ve got no personal gripe with any of you guys.
Lad: I know you don’t but...
Del: But if you can offer me specifics I would totally analyse that and say well, fair enough you’ve made a valid point.
Lad: Well it’s obvious your videos are there to try and get a reaction out of people.
Del: I know, that’s what the questions are about, to engage in the topic.
Del is a baby. He won't accept anything that makes his see what he really is.
Thanks for the translation. I couldn't understand the Scottish twang.
Thanks a lot.. I had like 80% blank all over this conversation Xx. Not used to this accent, I felt lost
Thx for the translation. Helped a lot.
@@mangojulie123 not really a translation because they’re speaking English. It’s a transcription.
"Can you persuade me that the world is a globe?"
"No"
"Why not?"
"Because I don't care what you think"
I think this would be a better way to deal with this crap.
I'd alter the last statement... "Because if you're stupid enough to ask someone to persuade you the world is a sphere, you've already demonstrated you're not intelligent enough to understand or accept any answer that proves it."
Because the laws of logic themselfs aristotles law of thought states logic follows consistency somone who consistently denies evidence handed to them will only logicaly remin ignorant regardless of evidence
@@demonic_myst4503 Yes. And after all, FE is simply a "method" that trains people to reject all explanations without the responsibility of thought and justified, honest falsification. It's all designed to make people feel that it's OK to deny stuff. rather than cow wardly.
"No, you obviously vehemently believe otherwise, as you're out here with a camera trying to make people look dumb for thinking so" is the best response.
This actually happened with a post-modernist and a physicist. The post-modernist said the physicist couldn't disprove him, and the physicist said, "Yes, I can," and then waked off.
Love that Del demands that all claims must be substantiated but presents exactly zero evidence for his claim of flat horizons using a spirit level. Gotta durf to flurf.
Exactly, the responses should be. Get me a spirit level the length of the horizon and show me it’s still flat. Oh you can’t, no proof there then! Never apply the same standards to their own ‘proofs’.
People that believe horseshit claims like flat earth, Bigfoot, religion etc are guilty of scientific illiteracy 100% of the time.
Gotta durf to flurf
I never heard that. lol
Like when they claim that all photos of earth are fake and demand to see a real one, knowing full well that no photo of their imaginary flat earth exists - real or otherwise.
Gotta hypocrite to flerf.
I would of asked him has he ever seen the covid virus ...
Hans Wormhat is fake - he's just three penguins dressed in a gorilla suit, stuffed inside a koala costume, in a trenchcoat- ah nuts, wrong video!
Oh that’s a brilliant comment! Nice!
Why hasn't Dan hearted this comment? Sheer brilliance 👍♥️🤍💙
Jesus.......I spent 31 years in the Royal Navy and served on 6 ships. I sailed 'full' circle completely around the World Twice....and I dont ever recall falling of the bloody end of it.
@@AirPictureGM FE say you were just turning slightly left or right the entire way lol
Based on Del's camera work as evidence, his world is always at about a 10 degree slope.
Damn! So the Earth's surface *_is_* curved!
As a Scotsman and a Celtic fan, it pains me that people like Del exist. Although, I’ve never seen Del with my own eyes, I’ve only ever seen his videos so I’m going to choose to believe he is fictional…just like flat earth.
I'm a Rangers fan and you have my sympathy for having that fanny in your support. I have to admit if I saw Dell anywhere near me I'd cross the road to escape.
I'm sure it's him who went from Gretna Green to Inverness to graffiti flat earth memes on sign posts.
He's an embarrassment to the human race nevermind Celtic fans 🤦🏻♂️😂
But how do you know he exists ?
Have you met him?
Have you checked he's registered with the government .. ?
He's just CGI ...SMH
No verifiable 3D evidence that I’ve seen. I’m calling it out as a deepfake. If they could fake the moon landings with CGI in the 70s, they can certainly fake a flat earth moron in 2022.
Wish he had asked me this question, because 12 years ago me and my mates Matt and Vince sailed around the world. I've experienced the globe world.
yeah but did you ever taste a curve? Did the earth smell round??? If it really were round, it would smell like it.
Did you have to keep dropping the bow of the boat?
What did you lot do when you came to the ice wall and what if the sea monsters did they trouble you?
Thankfully you didn’t travel pole to pole around the world…. We’d have lost you over the ‘ ice wall’!🤣🤣
well done, that is a great achievement. i know the rest of this thread is joking, but seriously, sailing around the world is a spectacular feat. i wish the flat earthers had such balls.
The funny thing with the basket ball test is that, if you scale it down, then there is probably more water on that basket ball than water on the Earth anyway. I have done the maths, that water is higher than mountains. The height of Everest is roughly 0.14% of the radius of the Earth. A basketball is about 120 mm in radius. If we find 0.14% of 120 mm, we should have the scale distance of the summit of Everest above the surface of our basketball. If we multiply 120 mm x .0014, we get about 0.2 mm. So, if you wanted to build the Himalayas to scale on the basketball, you would actually have a hard time making them small enough
Flerfers have always had issues with the scale of the earth..
It is mind boggling just how little flatards understand about reality though,....aint it?
I was thinking the same actually :D
but unfortunetly, the Earth's gravity is so much stronger then the basketball.. that all the water falls down.... so much for simili oceans.
Either way, he would be spinning that ball at 2-5 rotations per seconds anyways so, his demonstration would be screwed either way.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson made a similar point - if you could build a scale model of the earth the same size as a basketball you would not be able to find Everest because at that scale it would be as smooth as a billiard ball.
Yep - it's the classic "the Earth is more 'round' or smoother than a pool/billiard ball." One of my favourite facts that people just can't wrap their head around, but really put the scale into perspective, somewhat.
"Have you conducted the experiment yourself?"
No, I have watched flat earthers conduct the experiment, and ignore the result, which gave me TWO proofs that earth isn't flat.
I’ve actually had a flat earther ask me to explain a globe and I said “Do you believe in algebra? Like if I gave you mathematical formulas, and solved them that the answers would be valid. Yknow, does algebra work as a concept?” “Well yeah, math is math, you can’t argue with math.” “Okay. Cool. Explain to me HOW algebra works, along with the proper sequencing so I have a decent understanding of algebra and how it works.” “I can’t… I’m not a math teacher.”
Exactly. Just because someone can’t explain something, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. I don’t know HOW my main meds stop my pain, but I understand that they work and trust the intelligent people who developed them. I have some basic information I can share, but that’s it.
Same when it comes to a globe. I know it’s true because I can see it, and observe it. I have basic information and little tests to prove it but I cannot actually explain in detail how it works… I know that things in space tend to clump into spherical shapes, even granular materials like sugar in a bag. I know that I can run up and down a flight of stairs and watch the sunset or sunrise twice because I outrun the curvature of the earth. I can give logical information with evidence and science to back it up. Can you?
Hands in his pockets, shoulders relaxed, calm soft spoken demeanor... Yes Del, definitely triggered. All that projecting you should open a cinema.
I'm going to steal that. Really good one
4:14 I would have loved at that point hearing him saying "Actually, I saw a famous flat earther conducting this experiment, trying to demonstrate the the Earth was flat, and ending up proving otherwise. Have you heard of Jeran?" :D
"15 degree per hour drift"
"Thanks Bob!"
the problem they say it was staged the wohle thing that the people cutted it that way that they looked like idiots
thats what they actually say about the doku
you can take it bc its not real
On behalf of the majority of us Scots, I apologise 🥺
As an American,......we have been apologizing for years,......I can only say,....its about time somebody else had to apologize for idiotic behavior,.....apology accepted.
@Michael Fox You’re welcome 😊
Scotland needs more robust mental health services.
No need for apologies. We Aussies now have the currently top left award winner. Stupidity is a pandemic.
Everyone gets their share of idiots and genius.
Strangely enough, I just asked my wife, who doesn't watch flat Earth videos how could she tell the Earth was round. Her first argument was the shadow on the moon during an eclipse is round. I thought that was pretty clever of her.
It's because you mumble this in your sleep.
Yes indeed.
@@Gr-Ra5 What a strange thing to say! Did Michael's comment make you feel insecure somehow? Or do you just hate women so much, you can't stand seeing one praised? Both, even?
@@glennallen496 What sort of people watch flat earther videos, champ?
She makes a very good point. The fact that the Moon is a sphere is something you can look at and observe directly, and the extrapolation from the Moon being a sphere to the Earth being a sphere is a pretty small one.
8:18 most disingenuous statement in the entire video by Del: "By the way, I'm not invested in anything one way or the other." Liar, liar, pants on fire. Shame on you, Del, for pretending to be on the fence about flat earth.
Listening to Dell stumble through his arguments is just painful.
Yep, he's the intellectual equivalent of tying both shoelaces together.
Not gonna lie, I had to go to the skippage (thankful for the timer sign Dan 🙏 )
Listening to Dell is generally painful...
When he got called out, he immediately resorted to "you're emotionally triggered". The only strategy he has.
@@nightmareTomek "you're emotionally triggered" - to a guy displaying absolutely no emotions at all.
Yep. The great Del Boi brain - who cries and whinges about "logical fallacies" all day long uses ad hominem as if it's smart and not hypocritical.
I love how he's like "How would you go about convincing me the Earth is a globe" when he (and the majority of his kind) have already made up their minds about the Earth being flat and nothing can even change that. Why even ask then, mate?
"Why even ask then, mate?"
Because he is intellectually dishonest.
@@ReValveiT_01 Now now, I can see that you're emotionally triggered. Please give me some specifics so I can analyze the data of your statement.
Bc he’s lonely
Imagine being so arrogant that you believe you’re more intelligent than all the top scientists; Newtown, Galileo, Einstein, Feynman, Hawking…
When they ask a question like that, they are walking into a trap, they can be asked questions. You would of course have to have one in mind.
Is the distance between various locations east or west to each other generally known? Yes or no.
If no, express incredulity for their obviously silly claim.
If yes, then is the length of the Equator being about 24,900 miles generally known? Hard to say no to that.
Repeat for north - south directions, then point out on a flat earth the Equator would be about 39,000 miles.
Then ask where those missing 14,100 miles of flat earth Equator are.
"A new born child comes out of a hospital and has a car accident there's a definite cause and effect." Hold on Del by your own logic you would have needed to witness this yourself surely.
That's a very strange example! WTF has a 'new born' baby having a car accident got to do with cause and effect??
@@Wordavee1 the biggest question is who's letting these new borns drive
I had no clue what he was going on about with this one. It certainly didn't have any link to cause and effect.
Is _that_ what he said? I knew I was having a little trouble with his accent, and actually had less of a problem during these clips, but that particular phrase threw me. I caught "newborn" and "car crash" or accident, but in between was just noise.
I guess I'm like Del in a way: I personally experienced something but still misunderstood it. 😎
There was a flearther with a camera trawling for interviewees at an antivaxx rally on Glasgow green. Several people called the police on him.
To these people, whatever someone says is either
A. lies and deception because it supports a globe earth, or;
B. "science" because it supports a flat earth.
It's a no win scenario.
Oh, yes. Ask them to explain moon phases and eclipses on a flat earth....
He’s not arguing in good faith because he’s come prepared to ambush unprepared people into admitting they’re unprepared and then declare himself victorious. I can understand the students stopping to have a chat because they’re ready to argue in good faith, but they don’t realize they’ve walked in on a manipulative situation. Good for the student to call it out.
A flerfer not acting in good faith? Say it ain't so!
My thinking exactly. If you are going to conduct this kind of interview you cannot just turn up with an agenda that you have practised. It's not an honest conversation. Oops sorry, I forgot it was flerf stuff.
I have thank Del for opening my eyes, and debunking a belief that I have always thought to be true.
In my mind, there is this stereotype that the Scottish are lovely people.
And then Del comes, proving for a fact that unpleasantness knows no boundaries.
wtf yew raysist sunnagun scotchland people arent all bad wtf get a brain
Don't worry. Your belief that Scottish people are lovely is true. One or two d-bags isn't going to change that.
Idiots and A-holes appear in all groups of people. Every race, every culture, every gender, every sexuality, every nationality, every political persuasion, every education level. In all groups the vast majority of people are good, kind human beings who care for the people around them and want everyone else to be happy. And sure, in all groups, there are occasionally the jerks who behave badly, but don't fall into the trap of judging the entire group based on their behaviour.
They will always be a tiny minority.
Every force has an equal and opposite reaction force.
The lovelier most people in a country are, the more insufferable the few that aren‘t have to be until you get neutral on average. 🤓
Edit: Apparently that triggered some people even though i really don‘t understand how tf anyone could take this personally:
IT‘S A JOKE about a physical Law. Nothing more nothing less.
@@blacky_Ninja wat r u takling about like u think big words make u so smart u think every1 racist bcuz that guy w/e all scots arent evil. geta life
@@StoneDeceiver mate, he didn't refferance race once. You gotta chill,he just said in a decidedly pretentious way that there are both knobheads and great people in Scotland so any day up there is gonna be neutral.
I love how he bangs on about believing only what he can see and/or perceive. Then when the lad says he perceives the world as a globe because of the horizon etc he gets told about density, refraction etc which you most definitely can't perceive with your naked eye
Yeah, and measuring with a spirit level,... which is fine for small local measurements, but he cannot perceive the tiny fraction it differs by the time he traces to the Horizon, so by eye, he thinks it's the same,... but in reality, if he did that laser experiment himself, he'd see a difference. Del questioned whether the Zoology student had done the experiment to prove it,.. Del hasn't done it to disprove it,....
@@engineeredlifeform it's such bizarre logic. There's so much information out there that you can't possibly test yourself. Does Del also not believe in germs, or if he does, that some can cause disease? We only know that because someone else tested it and told us
@@MattieBeekeeper Right? germs, viruses, Bill Smith's second cousin's second left elbow, Dresden Germany... All things I have not see first-hand, but accept as reality (except for the elbow that I just made up).
Yeah flerfs like Del use the whole Rowbotham Zetetic Astronomy argument very selectively, just when it suits them.
"Del questioned whether the Zoology student had done the experiment to prove it" Which isn't a qualifying argument. The fact we can all repeat it and yet nobody has falsifying evidence is the correct logical argument. EVIDENCE, Del. EVIDENCE.
that student tells Del "he's trying to get a reaction out of him... so Del proceeds to call him ignorant and triggered!" in short, proving exactly the Student's point, in one sentence.
No Wonder this guy is a Flat Earther....
He decided to think of the Earth as being flat years ago and has since spent his time trying to prove it to be true. This just isn't how science is done. The dude is laughably opposite of "objective". He doesn't really want to debate the issue, he just wants to manipulate people into doubting, making him feel special. I think his identity and sense of worth is all tied up in his delusion, poor guy. If somebody ever did somehow change his mind, he'd be crushed. Probably end up in a mental institution.
These kinds of people never let go of totally indulging themselves and their petty beliefs to the absolute extremes. They remain children forever. They know they don't and can't contribute anything of value, so they make-believe it.
Nobody can ever know how many interviews he did in which the interviewee would have destroyed his absurd theory.
Gotta love these guys who livestream their own debunking !
@@CD_Character it still counts as attention. and flatearthery is often just a form of rebellion...
usually its just ugly hair cuts. flerfers are the new emos / goths / punks / hippies / cool cats / bohemians... etc, etc.. each generation has their own..
If someone in public asked me why the Earth isn’t flat, I’d probably say:
Me: “Because gravity exists”
Flerf: “there’s no such thing as gravity, only density and buoyancy causes things to fall”
Me: then why do things fall when they’re in a vacuum chamber?
Flerf:
Because it's NASA 😅
they can just say that its denser than a vacuum because vacuum is nothing, a better questions is why things fall down and not sideways or up and when they say its some mysterious force that holds things down ask them if they thing that gravity is a good name for that force
@@fur_avery .
Gas particles are denser than a vacuum which would mean they would not dissipate into the vacuum of space, thus destroying one flat earth claim.
Riley realised that was a problem so claimed gasses had no mass, only pressure.
You don't even need a vacuum chamber to prove the point. Even flerfers in the main accept there is an atmospheric gradient, the further away from sea level you go the less dense the atmosphere becomes. Air pressure at sea level 14psi, air pressure at 30,000 feet 5psi. Wherever you are the air is more dense lower than higher. That being the case if you drop any object it falls vertically downwards due to gravity. If there was no gravity the air below the object being dropped is more dense than the air above it. The object should rise vertically, not drop.
Gravity doesn't debunk a flat earth by itself - it's one reason why they can never agree on what they believe about it.
I love how he tries to manipulate that lad while asking for evidence of manipulation.
So you think Del is manipulating people but what about Sci-ManDan, Is he manipulating people? (personally I think he is).
@@WilsonFox123 Dan isn't manipulating people as he's not talking to us on a one on one basis and trying to force his own narrative. Del is.
@@GhostofKittyKatDawg Del is just asking questions and trying to understand their reasoning.
Personally I that Sci-ManDan is manipulating the audience of his channel, I can give examples if you want.
@@WilsonFox123 He clearly isn't just asking questions, he is very clearly manipulating the lads and as soon as one of them calls him out on it he tries to swing it round. Del is a liar and a manipulator. He also doesn't have a clue about science
@@GhostofKittyKatDawg Give me just one time-stamp where he was being manipulating/using manipulation?
Lol you can tell from the first student's body language he was desperately looking for an excuse to leave for the last five minutes or so. You can bet the first thing he said to his mate was "sorry but this lunatic would not let me go"
I think he asked 100 students for their thoughts and these are the only 2 instances where he wasn't told to bugger off ... so he put them in.
This student is way nicer and more patient than I would have been. There is 5 minutes of his life he will never get back.
You really think people can get time back ?
@@MrSkinkarde its called irony. Look it up.
Having done some surveying, I'd point out to Del that his "spirit level" allows him to observe a level plane, which surveyors define as a plane tangent to the sphere of the globe at the point of observation. Anyone who's every surveyed a large project or planned a bridge of significant length understands this simple principle.
Totally agree, I've actually been lucky enough to sail around the world in my early 20s with my friends Matt and Vince, And in a flat earth model I obviously couldn't have.
Also in a flat earth model navigation in general wouldn't work. In fact everything from flying and sailing to macro engineering and telecommunications only work on the current globe model.
The first student was so polite and patient yet you could see by his eyes constantly darting around that he'd rather prefer not to listen to this manipulative lunatic. I wouldn't be able to listen to a minute of Del's nauseating dribble and jyst walk away. Well done to the other student for calling a spade a spade!
Brev he said: "I have a picture of Mickey Mouse, would you take the statement to be true?"
But guaranteed he uses that same logic when arguing for God.
Don't forget what the power of the camera can do in Del's case... Allow him to cherry pick.
- If he encounters someone that can completely obliterate his arguments: Pretend like it never happened.
- If he encounters someone that he manges to convince: "See! People believe me!"
Luckily, he was so stuck up that he never caught on to how this chad called him out, else he'd just have pretended it never happened.
It's extremely difficult to act confident in front of an unexpected camera. However, body language speaks volumes, and it's clear that these students are thinking some very mean things about Del :D
imagine being so desperate for an ego boost u force kids into uncomfortable situations
@@StoneDeceiver I have a prepared response for anyone who may try this in me, but I'm sure they won't upload it to UA-cam :D
@@NicolasConnault
I was sitting here thinking what I would say if I had a camera in my face and, unfortunately, I don't think I could pull a lot out at the drop of a hat. What's your suggestion?
@@Crackpot_Astronaut This is one of the questions I've been finding quite useful:
"Given 0 wind, if you stand on top of a train wagon going at 80mph and you throw a tennis ball straight up, will it land back in your hand, or fall behind you?
What if you're standing inside the wagon, with all the windows and doors closed? Where will the ball fall?
Why?"
The reason this is a tricky question is that it's both a simple experiment to try, and it debunks one of the main claims of flat earthers: that we can't possibly be on a spinning ball because we'd feel the motion.
But the main reason why this works, is because it shifts the conversation around: instead of being on the offensive, they now have to defend their own belief system. Most will back away or try to change the topic.
Somebody should tell Del that leaping on unsuspecting kids in the street with loaded questions is the pinnacle of intellectual dishonesty.
If you want to prove the earth is flat, then you should cut out this whole charade and simply bring some evidence to support your claims.
Ah right, I see why you opted for option A.
He should have brought with him a bottle of water and a basketball
That's it isn't it?
He really can't prove anything about a flat Earth.
As for the unsuspecting, he certainly can't get a physicist or any other allied professional working in any other science or engineering field to debate him. He knows they won't as it is not only merely stupid to waste their time doing so, but also pointless to try to prove to this guy what is known fact.
I don't know what you're talking about, scientists stop me on the street almost everyday to talk about their current research & theories!
Michael Moore style Culture Jamming.
@@0x2A_ thank you for making me laugh. that was beautiful.
That first student had a lot of patience but I felt like he had a conversation going on in his own head where he might have been trying to figure out how to politely disengage with this nutter.
Someone has spray painted 'flat earth' on both sides of an advertising trailer on the road out of my home town. I despair...!
Its frightening that these people actually exist "Truly". They have the mindset of infants in adult bodys. I know thats an insult to infants.
Wow... Del outside of his rage shed! That's a new one for me.
B.T.W. Del, that student wasn't triggered, he just sees through your bollocks.
I thought Del calling the student triggered was probably projection. Being called out like that probably had him exerting all his self control to not go off on an abusive rant, so he compensated by calling the other guy triggered.
@@barrylangille3523 Yeah it was textbook projection on Del's part.
So Del from Beyond the Imaginary Brain is targeting students who aren't physicists. Approaching people who are unprepared for the random questions flatards ask and then think that's a win?
it's a creationist tactic from way back, doesn't really convince anybody but it makes good content for the true believers. There's a reason that all flat earth tactics are derived from ministries, y'know?
One thing we had not seen is when he bumped into someone with a background in physics, astronomy, mathematics of geology. That would be interesting to see this kind of record, if there is some. I suspect people like Del to stop the conversation before things goes awry for them with such people...
@@OlivierGabin He would run screaming for cover. He's so obviously a cow ward.
@@tetryst _"... doesn't really convince anybody but it makes good content for the true believers."_
Exactly, that's it. And flushes some money into its own pocket via UA-cam.
You can almost never win an argument when the interviewer controls the editing of the sound or video. It's one reason to never go on the show of a politically or philosophically bent partisan. Luckily for these students, Del doesn't seem to realize their patience exposes his own biased nature. I'm surprised at his lack of self-awareness... but then again he is convinced the Earth is flat. That would require thinking beyond the horizon. The scope of the universe is daunting.
If someone wants to film and ask you questions for a yt video. Flip out your own camera and start filming 😏
@@TrickOrRetreat Dell would probably have a problem with that, and walk away. He's the one who wants to manipulate, and not be exposed.
@@TrickOrRetreat Haha, that is the funny truth in our current time.
@@nightmareTomek Valid point indeed.
Del live streams on his channel with a phone in or google hang out/meet.
There has never been any globe earthers that can never answer Del's questions honestly.
Student: standing calmly
Del, raising his voice and speaking faster to talk over the student: "I can see that you're triggered, and I'm not emotional"
Can flat earthers not conceive of a sphere so big that it would appear flat to a tiny being stood on it? The earth is that big. Tiny minds.
The logical fallacy Del is involved in is called "confirmation bias"
I think "lifestyle choice" may be the term. His entire identity revolves around rejecting explanations that make him upset, without the use of any justifying arguments at all.
if some clown asked me to prove the earth is round id ask him how line of sight communications work, im a retired communications rigger, id have him bamboozled in seconds.
Sadly, he'd probably claim you don't understand atmospheric refraction of the crepuscular convergence factor, or some such flerfsense.
He's got "appeal to authority" down but I guess "false equivilency" eludes him.
Also, this guy is worse than people who start conversations with "Can I talk to you about our Lord and savior Jesus Christ?"
Oh them, I avoid the god squad like the plague.
They're much the same aren't they? Most flat earth beliefs stem from religious fanaticism so they're just trying to convert you by a more convoluted path.
"Well, no thanks, I am a satanist anyway"... I might try this answer someday...
@@OlivierGabin Actually I'd use "YES please, I'd like to introduce you to the love that is Satan"
I like Ricky Gervais' answer...in all of human history there have been many gods that have been invented...and you people don't believe in any of those except one...well, I just disbelieve in one more god than you do.
Flat earth 101, when you don’t get the reaction you want, tell the other person they are triggered. Sad sad little boys who haven’t grown up
"How would you convince me the Earth is roond?" -I can't. No amount of proof would convince you.
Loving how the average person thinks Flat Earth theory is absolute rubbish.
99.9999999% of the global population think flurfs are morons.
Guy seems to be looking for a way to escape, while still trying to be polite.
No-one was forcing him to stay and chat.
@@WilsonFox123 Right, cuz that's how humans work.
@@Christobanistan Sorry what are you trying to say?
i love how they all expect evidence they can accept, like finally after all these years this dude will convince him either way, but i mean they are obviously not so selective on what they choose to believe
Like I have a globe, it works, the model works, you can go to a weather site, and watch the clouds all swirl and come in as predicted, on time, ish.. and you can go to a plane tracking app which shows all the air traffic globally, you can map out the entire system for anyone to pick apart, but the best they have is a model that could never work, without the sun being a spotlight in the sky above a dome they can't explain with ice walls that stop you falling into who knows what, yet they doubt all those sources because "the man" made them, and we can't trust "the man" ugh, so easy to dismiss the fact that 3 separate things all agree the system works, while they can barely figure out how to make it work in more than a basic presentation using windows Paint
Flat earthers don't even agree on how the flat earth works.
Yep he wants to talk logic and objectivity ok aristitles paws of thought consistency if he constently ignores evidence at what point does It become insanity to even engage with him
This is what I have really been curious about, that I havnt heard a flat earther answer. What happens when I walk off the edge of the earth, is there no edge, does it go on forever? And if the earth is in space, what keeps the earth floating in space, with the concern about the water falling off the ball, why doesnt the earth fall off itself, like what is keeping the bottom on? And then if I dig a hole in the ocean could I drain all the water off the earth?
@@dexrow Some flat earthers actually believe space isn't real and if someone could get over the ice wall with out getting shot by the penguin army guarding it there is land on the other side that goes on forever.
I'm sure he has never appealed to authority on anything before. This guy installs his own breaks and personally inspects jet engines before he takes commercial flights.
Honestly, the only reply really needed to "Have you personally verified those experiments?" is "No, but I'm not the one doubting the claim. Have you personally verified them yourself before doubting their authenticity? That's _your_ responsibility."
This is a classic example of 'I'm just asking questions!' while actually making a statement with those questions. When someone calls the Flerfer out, he retorts with 'well, have YOU done the experiments?' And around in circles we go.
Imagine living life with this kind of logic. Does a pine tree take 30 years to mature? Well, have YOU grown a pine tree for 30 years to see what happens? Is the gestation period for a baby 9 months? Who said! Have YOU been pregnant and timed how long it took?
At some point we have to trust the verified information from trusted sources instead of relying on the 'if I haven't personally tested it, it doesn't exist' method.
Yes, you have to rely on external information at some time. But when you are paranoid, tha't s a problem...
Personal evidence of globe earth:
1. Camping in a dark sky reserve in South Africa on a moonless night and not being able to see Polaris and the familiar northern hemisphere constellations.
2. The fact that the sun and moon when rising and setting look no smaller than when they are at their highest in the sky.
3. Staying in a seaside hotel overlooking the sea with moored oil tankers just over the horizon you could see from an upper floor window but not from the beach.
Evidence from flerfs themselves.
4. The 15° per hour drift (thanks Bob!)
5. Jeran's three-hole light experiment.
6. Ranty's Blackpool Tower photograph.
M'lud, I rest my case.
Speaking of the moon, it's upside down when viewed from e.g. Australia compared to what we see from the northern hemisphere.
I like to note that the "water on the basketball" thing doesn't show what he wants it to either. The water that actually sticks to the basketball is actually proportionally *much* *much* deeper than the actual water on the earth. Just surface tension makes that basketball into a water world far more than our own world is.
I have an experiment that anybody in Great Britain can perform with 1) a train ticket, 2) a decent telescope, 3) a tiny bit of math and google:
Get your telescope and take the train to Dover, England. Walk to Shakespeare Beach and stand as close to sea level as you can get with a clear view of the Strait of Dover. Aim your telescope at France, specifically at Cap Blanc-Nez.
The distance is approximately 35.5 km. On a flat earth, you should be able to see all 134 meters of Cap Blanc-Nez, but on a globe earth, only between 35~62 meters of the top, depending on the actual height of the telescope, and not accounting for refraction.
I don't know exactly where Del is and I don't want to guess and risk offending anybody, but this should be a very doable thing for him. *IF* as he says he's willing to test any reasonable arguments. Which he obviously isn't, so won't.
"Time until Del gets called out". Nice touch Dan.
What in hell does Del think he's achieving by doing this incredibly silly stuff? He makes a fool of himself on the internet for the world to laugh at and then goes out on the streets where people can laugh at him more directly. What a silly excuse for a human being.
In a "Debate" Del was called "Trigger-Del".
So funny that he is still on with his FE-BS.
When you are 100% certain of your views, the best way to prove them to the world is to walk around a campus trying to set rhetorical traps for 20-y/o's. You know, the way true science works.
Lurking around the local primary school with a camera didn't go so well for him, hence the campus visit.
About Dells Water on Basketball:
Actually that water sticks to the ball!
Looks closely, he was putting water on it and its not dry anymore, its not much but,
I dont want to calculate it now, but i guess even an 8 km deep ocean is very thin compared to the hughe earth!
it sticks to the ball but not because of gravity. i always find their experiments so mindnumbing. he is holding up a basketball 1 meter above a huge ball of mater (planet earth) so ofcourse the water will slide off 99% of it and fall to earth.
do the same in space and all the water will form a layer around tha ball.
@@sadev101 right? Like... let's pretend that ball isn't being effected by the very forces you're arguing don't exist and is the very reason that water is being pulled to the ground instead of the ball. Lol :D
@@SuperDuckyWho 1 i do not say gravity does not exist... 2 the sticking to the ball is not because of gravity but because of something called Adhesion of water
Water likes to stick to itself, but under certain circumstances, it actually prefers to stick to other types of molecules. Adhesion is the attraction of molecules of one kind for molecules of a different kind, and it can be quite strong for water, especially with other molecules bearing positive or negative charges..
thats why watercan als stay stuck on roofwindows underneath even though gravity pulls at it.
im no flat earhter and i dont deny gravity. but the sticking to the ball is not because of gravity .. but because of adhesion. the water that falls off towards the ground thats called gravity.
so please read carefuly and check thinngs out before trying to ridicule someone when you yourself do not seem to comprehent the difference between gravity and adhesion
The reply to a flat earth nut question “Have you done that experiment” should be “Have YOU done it?”
What hypothesis?
What equipment?
What methods?
What results?
Only conclusions!
The flat earther is arguing in bad faith.
Notice how he asked if the student took refraction of light bending due to atmospheric conditions into account.
Did *he* do the experiment to see if the light is actually refracted sufficiently to prevent the light shining through both holes?
He has one set of standards for himself but expects a higher set of standards for others.
If you expect others to adhere to a rigorous scientific standard of performing experiments when your own standards are, "my eyeballs tell me so" then you are a charlatan.
Exactly right
I can't believe lightning didn't strike when he asked if the student knew anything about logic and reason.
To the question "How would you go about convincing me the earth is a globe?" a reasonable answer would be "is there a reason I should?"
I'll give this guy a lot of props for his patience
Seen Jay Excis Tweets?
He claims non flat-earthers are ignorant, while only believing what he sees and disregards other people's physical experiences and calculated studies. He's a hypocrite as well as ignorant, as well as a bit of a bully.
Still the same old idiocy. I tried to patiently explain the geometry of the horizon to Del, starting with a cylinder to make sure a tangent was understood with the intention of working up to a sphere. It descended into childish trolling immediately from Del and some of his minions who claimed I said the earth was a cylinder. He was and always will be incapable of logic, reason, or just plain old decency.
You cant educate people who are too scared to look at anything that makes them realise what they really are.
The first guy was a legend and when presented with information all Del can say is “but have you done it yourself” even though he himself has not done it himself ;)
"You're triggered!"
The student "No, I just don't care about your bs"
So instead of going to experts on the matter this guy goes to people on the street who may not know much about the subject. What a low tactic, quite pathetic.
Copied from Ray Comfort I suspect.
Del asks everyone 'Have you done this experiment?' But he hasn't done them himself and got the results he wants. If he did them the experiments, they would prove the globe and then everyone could get on with their lives, but that's not what he wants.
Yes, just turn the question around to them
I still have never met a flat earther in person but I would absolutely destroy one of them in a situation like this. I think they're all CGI.
Everybody thinks so, until they find one. Then they discover, oh the horror, that flat earthers are immune to logic.
You'll have the same success trying to convince a madman than he is not Napoleon Bonaparte.
Clearly giant ignoramuses?
"If a newborn child comes out of a hospital and has a car accident, there's a definite cause an effect"... Uh... er... okay...
If anything it is a predeterministic statement, "that child was born to crash", no cause or effect. Maybe this is an indication of something in his past life, did he cause a child to be injured in a car? Very odd thing to introduce out of context.
The kid couldnt have been calmer without falling asleep, when he told Dale that he wont bite and wont be manipulated and all Dale could come up with is "Oh, you are tRiGgEreD". And if i learned one thing these last months, than that the person claiming someone else is triggered, are often the ones that are triggered.
Whenever confronted by delusional people such as him and I am off duty my customary response is that I have neither the time nor crayons to explain things to you and just because in your mind you are speaking your “truth” does not make it fact nor truth so go rewrap your tin foil hat before “they come back for you…….”
I have arguments with random people on the street on a regular basis when I confront them about their behaviour. I'd love to have Dell shove his camera in my face and ask stupid questions.... that would be an epic altercation.
I have to remember that. "I have neither the time nor crayons to explain things to you."
I look forward to the raging response video Del makes 😂 That vein on the side of his head will pulsate into overdrive while he chain smokes 30 roll-ups!
I would love to meet someone like this on a day i have lots of free time...
Just so i can talk to them for half an hour straight, making them feel like they are actually convincing me, and then just go "wait... I just realized something... This is 100% the dumbest conversation i have ever had! But i'm glad i got to waste a bunch of your time!", and then just walk away, acting like they don't exist if they try to talk to me again!
I employed the same strategy witb Jehovas Witnesses, who knocked on my door about once a week, and for some reason, they have never come back after that...
My brother, who reads voraciously, once almost converted a door-to-door Mormon out of his religion, by using their own book.
The watchtower people stopped knocking after he answered the door shirtless, with a few smears of blood on his chest (from a package of hamburger) and a pentacle hanging from his neck. He then asked if they were there for the goat sacrifice.
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He is kind of a role model for dealing with annoying people.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Im guessing a fair few of the flatties believe in magic sky people as well!
@@MonkeyJedi99 dude I was about to share a similar experience of mine. Dogs barking at something outside, I come out to see what it is (in my undies, rural america) and unfortunately horrified the two unnoticed Mormon nuns who were coming by to chat.
They don't stop in anymore, and I don't have to wonder why, unfortunately for my dignity (and their eyes).
This is exactly the type of behaviour a glober would do. They don't like their globe being taken away from them.
Here's an experiment you can do yourself: wait for the equinox, drive 500 miles north, observe sunrise and sunset times, drive 500 miles west the next day, observe sunrise and sunset times, ask people in far-away places to do the same, try to explain the results using any flat earth compass/sun/geometry configuration, try to explain the results using a globe and known latitudes.
I have no problem admitting to being triggered. I get annoyed by moronic flerfs spouting lies, misinformation, distrust and slander. Maybe I’m just funny that way but that sort of stuff just doesn’t sit well with me.
The guy he is interviewing is so uncomfortable, he's desperate to cut him off but he's clearly very polite.
Del like to get straight to the point of the subjects.
Water was sticking to that ball, what the fuck was he thinking?
And considering the scale, these basketball oceans would have been much deeper than any ocean on the earth.
To me the sharp horizon you see at sea or from a hilltop on a clear day demonstrates that we live on a ball. If we lived on a flat plane the horizon would always be misty, variable and indistinct like your field of view on a misty day. And I could tell that guy about ships I've seen going over the horizon. All common experience.
If we lived on a flat plane there would be no horizon, the only reason we have one is because we are on a globe.
SciManDan, this was great! LMAO Dell got triggered when the group all snickered and said 'rubbish, bullocks and dumb' then worse when the kid called him out!👍💖💙🥰✌
Another one all done and dusted. Thank you for the video Dan. One of the greats
He’s asking leading questions to get a specific answer HE wants so he then proceeds to ask for specifics from him was quite funny xD
SOP for intellectual ambushing. It's a cvItist tactic for street recruitment.