Setting up the FrSky SxR receivers on ETHOS
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- This video continues on from my last video on setting up a model using ETHOS. I had a few people ask about setting up the SxR with ETHOS. So here is that video. In it, I set up my S8R receiver, this of course will work with the S6R too. I cover the quick mode, which gives you manual, stabilised, and self levelling modes. Plus a gain knob, to dial the stabilisation strength, and an Oh crap switch, to automatically level the model. I also cover how to reverse the channels if the stabilisation is not going the correct way.
** In this video **
- FrSky Tandem X20S bit.ly/MrD_3x6n6JL
- FrSky S8R bit.ly/MrD_3f89KG1
** Contents **
00:00 Introduction
01:34 The setup I'll be using for this demo
03:38 Adding the channels for the SxR functions
09:10 Calibrating the SxR
12:07 Setting up the SxR
13:09 The mounting types explained
15:52 The self check
16:38 Testing the control surface deflection in manual and stabilised modes
19:20 Adding the switch positions to the checklist, to power on safely
21:09 Adding feedback for the switches
21:55 Conclusion
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Awesome tutorials! I'm buying an X20 based on the ease of SxR set up in your video! Thanks!!
Thanks Michael. The setup is not bad at all. It’s a fantastic radio, I’m sure you will enjoy it.
As usual a very nice demonstration on set-up. Not nearly as easy as Spectrum but Ethos certainly makes it easier than before. Considering changing to FrySky because we lose signal periodically, not with FrySky but it still is more complicated, I’m on the fence.
To be honest, once you’ve set this stuff up a couple of times in ETHOS, it becomes easy. There’s always a little learning with something new. But that little bit of learning will probably save you a lot of fixing models.
Excellent, the SR8 Pro has never been this simple to set up in the past, I follow all your steps but could not get the stabilization to turn off and on, then I realized I needed to set Channel Range to CH1-CH16 in RF System now everything works perfectly! Great work I always learn something new from your videos.
Thanks Bobby, I’m glad its all working. I do sometimes forget about the 1 to 16 channel range, as the new versions of ETHOS default to that.
@@MrD Hello Mr D, I like to know where did you get the blue button covers from? Thank you for the kool video.
Hi Ken. They came with the transmitter.
@@MrD I wonder if the x20s comes with them. I hope so. Thanks
It should, that’s what I have. They came with mine.
Mr.D. I got it. By turning OFF the AUX1/AUX2 when you are in the SX-R function under Device Configuration , Ail2/Elev2 are enabled. It any of the AUX options are are on, those channels can be used for different functions. I got the hint out of your video for "Setting up FrSky Archer SRx stabilised Receivers". Thanks a lot
Doctor D. If you set a push button, on the back so you don’t do it in flight, add a delay and curve…. Sounds more complicated then it is. You click it those three times and easy, peasy… the dance happens per described. I have it working but need to find the directions again and share with credits to those who wrote it.
Beautifull, thank you very much
Thanks for this. I found that I had to flash firmware version 2.1.0.FCC to my S6R for it to even bind with my X20. It would not bind when flashed to 2.1.2.FCC for some odd reason. But I just needed a refresher on the mixer settings as it's been a while since I set it up on the Radiomaster tx16s.
Interesting. Is the RF firmware on your X20 up to date? It seems strange that the S6R needed older firmware.
Hello Mr. D, thanks for the help with the Frsky Tandem videos, it's been really important. Could you make a video about SR receivers in hover and knife mode. It would be really cool.
Hi Leonardo. I currently don't use the knife edge or hover modes of this receiver. I feel it would not be right for me to make a video on them with no experience of them in flight. But, I may have a model soon which I can test these features on.
Good Morning Mr.D. In my comment below I forgot to mention that the radio operates correctly CHs 1 and 5 (Ail 1 and Ail 2) when ailerons are operated from the TX. Thank you.
Thank you for your videos they are very helpful. I am setting up my first S6R with Ethos and receiver is bound and working. The trouble I am having is the SXR calibration and SXR are not working from the transmitter screen and I am having to use the STk tool and laptop to adjust the receiver. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I updated the firmware on the receiver. Thanks for any suggestions.
Thanks!
You’re welcome
Apologies. The mobile app doesn't show that a super thanks has been left. Thank you very much.
Thank you again for making these FrSky ETHOS how to videos, they have been a great help learning to set up my X20S. I used your method to set up an S8R receiver. My only problem is my throws. When I move my sticks I only get movement for about 70% of the stick travel on all three controls. I know I had this problem on OpenTX and had to change a weight from 50% to 100% but can’t find this on ETHOS. Any help would be appreciated.
Just a couple of points, the 'oh crap' switch only needs to pass through centre 3 times in 3 seconds, then wait a few seconds for the Rx to go into self check and calibrate mode, once you have done the deflections, raise/blip the throttle to leave the calibration mode.
Thanks Mordy
It doesn't work for me, I can't get it to enter auto-calibration mode, and I've tried everything and I still can't, will it be the FW or an update?
Which receiver?
@@MrD Frsky SR6
You should just be able to use the button in the SxR tool. With the current ETHOS.
Great video! I followed every step in great detail to set-up my Archer SR6. All worked out perfectly - besides that I cannot switch between the stabilization modes (= exactely set as per your great video tutorial). Any ideas? (e.g. NOT channel 10 when using SR6 - instead SR 8?). Thanks, Christian
Thanks Christian. Looking at the manual, the SR6/8/10 use the same channels as the S6/8R that I have installed here. Go in to the setup and make sure that the stabilisation is enabled. This can be switched off.
Like your videos. Helped me a lot with my new radio. I really like your servo test plane shown in your videos. did you make it or was it a kit?
Thanks Bill. I’m glad the videos have helped. I made the little test plane.
@@MrD gonna have to make one too. It's a nice visual to show the operation of the servos with the flaps/ailerons/elevator/rudder ect.
Hi Darren, is there a way to setup the calibration with the receiver facing pin to the front of the plane? The cables in my plane won’t allow the pins facing the back of the plane. (Archer Plus SR8 and/or 10)
BTW love your video's, they are very informative and helpful!
Hi Darren, nice video to setup the SxR receiver in Ethos. I followed the instructions thoroughly (twice). The switches are working. However I don't understand what the gain pot should do. I see its working in the mixer setup, but see no effect on their output on one of the three servos I connected. Also both stabilizor and Oh Crap switches are doing exactly the same. They respond on moving the receiver though. So apparently I missed something, or don't know what the next steps are. E.g. do I now need to adjust each output channel (expo, min max etc)?
Hi Ron. The pot adjusts the gain of the gyro. So if you turn it anti-clockwise, the movements will get less, clockwise they will increase. This is easiest to see in the self-levelling mode. It can be really useful to crank the gain right up to test the stabilisation is moving in the right directions. Usually in flight this is around 30%, always less than half way.
The Oh Crap switch from what I can tell, just puts it in self-levelling mode.
It sounds like it's working. It just may be easier to see what's going on in a plane.
Thank you for making great tutorials. I would like to ask you. Would you make how to setup frsky R9stab. I've follow this video but its not working on R9stab
Thanks Johnny. I don't have an R9 Stab receiver unfortunately. But I will have a video soon on the SR10 Pro. Though the process is very similar. What parts aren't working? Looking at the manual, it should be the same as the S8R in the video.
Great video as i have many S8R receivers. Question, where did you get that cool little test plane?
Thanks. I made the demo plane myself.
Being a new owner of the X20S with no previous Frsky experience your videos are beyond valuable. My first setup is a flying wing using a S6R Rx. Set up the elevons as per your excellent video and everything works. Learned a lot too. Trying to incorporate the gyro has not gone as hoped. Have gone through the procedure 3 or more times but nothing happens on the model. The Rx LED flashes when heavily moved with gain doing nothing. In the "Mixes" the Gyro, Gain and OH Crap are greyed out no matter the switch positions. SxR (in Device Config) is set to Wing Rud Ele Ail although there is a setting for Delta wing ail/ Wing Flying which makes one control surface an aileron and the other an elevator. At this point I am gyro activation and use lost. Any ideas where to look?
Hi there. If the mixes are greyed out, it sounds like they are never being activated. It's hard to guess what's going on. Can you contact me via my web site, so that we can see some images of the mixer for these.
You bet.
Where did you get that nice little desk plane with small little servos for pre-setups at your desk?
I did further testing and found that if the maximum lower throttle limited less than 80% will disable the "self check" of the gyro. The upper limit has no effect.
Hi Mr.D Greetings from South Florida. My name is Luis Cadavid. Firs time I comment in your channel. I have watched many of you videos and they have helped me a lot. I own 3 FrSky transmitters, Taranis QX7, Horus X10S Express and two weeks ago I got a Tandem X20. The radio seems to be working fine. However, I am in the process of setting up an airplane with an S8R, but I can not get the second aileron to respond when in stabilization or leveling mode, no matter what I do. I think I have tried to set up the receiver 20-30 different times. I have even re-flashed the receiver from OpenTX and with Ethos. Only Ail1 responds to stabilization. Is there a way to define for the receiver from ETHOS whether you are using 1 or 2 ailerons? I believe in OpenTX you have that option, after you calibrate and run the SxR lua script. Do you think either the TX or the receiver, on of them is defective? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Also, I hope I keep receiving more of those excellent videos. Thanks a lot.
I followed your video. The only surface that moves for me when moving the RX are the flaps with AUX 2 in the off position. What am I doing wrong?
So if I have a SXR in a plane already, if the Ethos X20s has the channels configured properly, do I still have to calibrate the receiver since it was already done once before with opentx? Can I bind and fly providing all channels match the previous radios setup?
The calibration should be fine. But I’d run the self check again just so that the throws from that radio are registered.
Darren, how can we achieve "Overide Channel X" in ETHOS? It would make using a switch for Hover Mode quite simple.
Unfortunately, it doesn't exist as it did in OpenTX. Instead, you would need to used mixes to achieve the same result.
followed your video instruction but got stuck on device configurations is greyed out, any advice why I can't enter device configuration? thx
There was a change to the ETHOS SxR tool a few versions ago. This stopped some features from being active on older receivers. FrSky are looking to get this fixed. I will check with them again on the progress.
A note here there is a setting in HARDWARE under switch settings which is SWITCH MIDDLE DETECT DELAY. anything other than 0 and initialization does not work seeming no matter how fast you toggle
Yes. I’ve mentioned that in my video for the SRx type receivers. It’s apparently set by default now. Though it could still be set to 100 if you’ve been updating from older versions.
@Mr.D - Falling with style thinking I might set the special functions that play tracks for middle of switch to trigger with virtual switch to delay on. Same result. Still they should fix. Also. Have you noticed if you set up throttle with a free mix that the trim doesn't work?
Yes. I noticed that when trying to create my own throttle. I think you have to use the throttle mixer at the moment.
Hi Mr D, Great video, Re: X20S, receiver S8R, using 4 channels: I have been through your set up procedure about 5 times yet both switches have same function, only turn the stabilization off or on?
My receiver installation is "level reversed". Is it important that the receiver connections face the rear of the aircraft? as the current connections due to antenna placement are facing to the front?
Also at level flight the elevator is pointing slightly up, is there a setting for levelling the elevator? the receiver was calibrated on a level surface. Please advise, Thanks Rosco
Yes, the outputs should face the rear of the aircraft. If your switches aren't functioning correctly, make sure that Quick Mode is enabled in the SxR Tool. When you do the self check, try to get the attitude of the aircraft as close to level flight as possible. The calibration on a level surface is fine.
@@MrD Thank you for your reply. I have now deemed that my S6R (that was installed) is faulty, causing all sorts of stabilisation havoc. Now replaced with a S8R with a much better result on the bench, not yet tested in the air.
What function does the centre position of the channel 10 switch do?
On my Tx it seems to have no effect, just another off position of the switch?
Does the quick mode switch stay enabled after the self check?
My Oh Crap switch is set as a 2 position switch is that ok?
Many thanks for your support
after performing a self test the receiver stopped working no more movement on my servo's only the motor is still working .i have done a ota firmware update and still nothing on the servo's any suggestions?
Dr. D. Is there any where you can direct me to re-programming the switch operation for stabilization, knife edge and hover. The switch operation and combination by Frsky is very awkward to use. In FROS I was able to set one switch with hover up.. center off… down knife edge. A different 3 way switch was self-level, up… center off… down for stabilization. I have totally failed in getting ETHOS to do such. Don’t know where to go for help. thanks in advance.
Hi Fred. I did this in OpenTX using channel override logic. But, I don't believe that is in ETHOS. It should be possible in ETHOS, using logic and mixer. But I'll need to check over how it's all set up again. But I'll take a look.
Any idea how to add Gear channel on Ethos for a model that has retracts?
If they’re just simple retracts, you can use a free mix with a switch. For more complex retracts, I believe they are looking to add a gear sequencer.
Hello. I understand this video. But I need t move the default channels. I have other functions that require servo inputs. How do I access the receiver to change the output assignment ?
thanks
Click on the receiver name after you’ve bound it. Then click options. If the receiver can reassign the output pins, you can do it there.
I have been setting up a SR8 receiver and I am for some reason having an issue with the flap curve and the gyro gain on Pot 1. Every time I set up the gain on Pot 1, it copies the same curve to the flaps. If I set up the flaps it copies the same curve to the gyro gain. I had the flaps setup on channel 7 and I had the gain setup on channel 9. I tried moving the flaps to channel 5 and I still am getting the same issue with the curves wanting to copy to each other. I deleted the gyro gain on Pot 1 on channel 9 and made a new curve and it is still doing the same thing. I am sure it is something simple, but I am not getting it. I have spent several hours trying to figure out what I did wrong in the setups. I was able to get the gyro setup and all working but I can't figure out what happened with the two curves copying to each other. If you have any ideas, I would appreciate the help.
It’s pretty hard to tell without any visuals to be honest. If you have Discord, the link to my server should be in the video description, if not it’s in the latest video’s description. If you don’t, sent me an email from my web site. Can you include images of the mixer for the gain pot and the flaps, plus the main curves screen.
What firmware and version are you using?
hi Darren
At the end of your video (about 20:39) you mention about an aiming switch (SF) that you did not make reference to in your video. Could you please relate as to the operation of this switch
Thanks
Steve
It's basically if you have set up a throttle cut. You want the warnings set up so that the throttle is disabled when you switch on the radio, as a safety feature.
@@MrD Hi Darren Thanks for the reply......I do use that switch for throttle control. Best regards Steve
Nice video, thanks for posting. That said, do you have any idea how to do this on a PC? I have a Taranis X9D and a Radiomaster X16s and know that I could use those two radios to configure my X6S receiver. However, I did not know that I could do this with a Radio and got the STK Tool, so I might as well use it.
Easier said than done. The old software, which was called S6R Config Software is not available anymore. I read that the new software called FreeLink is now to be used. Anyhow, I tried everything, but nothing. I am able to use another tool to update the firmware, so I am able to connect to the receiver using the STK tool, but that's about it.
Cant do anything using the FreeLink app... Thanks.
Sorry, I've not had or used the STK Tool. I've only ever used the transmitter to flash or make these settings changes on the receivers.
@@MrD Roger that. Thanks.
I have an SR8 Pro. The stabilization functions as advertised on the elevators and ailerons. But no stabilization on the rudder. I have updated, reset, rebound and re-calibrated the receiver. Still nothing on the rudder. I need some help on this one.
Have you tried turning the gain right up to test? I find the rudder is harder to test as it only corrects for a very small time.
see , my comment above
s6r receiver and sr10 receiver just accst
Is there a difference between access and channel?
S6R is ACCST
SR10 Pro is ACCESS
SR10+ can work with both
ACCST can have up to 16 channels. ACCESS can have up to 24 channels. Receivers that were made for ACCESS also have extra features. Such as over the air updates.
How can I set-up this receiver for stab and hover mode together?
No need to hover includes stabilisation. They are 2 separate modes.
Can it be used for twin x lite in the same way?
Yes. Both the original SxR and newer SRx receivers will work fine on the TWIN X Lite.
I’ve followed along this video, and with full stability in, my plane retracts and flaps deploy when I tilt the plane up and down. Is there a way to shut these channels off when in stability mode?😊
Would I be right in thinking your retracts and flaps are on channels 5 and 6. If so, go in to the SxR tool and look for AUX1 Enable and AUX2 Enable. These will need to be ON. Other wise they will act like the second channel for aileron and elevator servos.
@@MrD you are very correct! I realized this last night. This was a growing pain from moving to frsky from spektrum without reading all the manuals.
Thanks for the help and your tremendous content!
@@RogueRc no problem. I'm glad it's working now.
Quick question about auto stabilization, should I not be using it when I’m launching my plane because it seems to act really erratic on take of and has caused two crashes?
I wouldn't use stabilisation at all until it has been tuned. If it's erratic, it may have too much gain and be over correcting.
@@MrD here is a link to one of the videos
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@@MrD here is the other video, I had enough elevation and time to turn it off but my controls were reversed and still crashed, I have since fixed the controlls but im thinking what you have suggested is correct , the gain is too high, I have it set to 50% as I followed YPUR tutorial which was super helpful, thank you btw
@@3dprintfactory482 no problem. Now that would be smart. A stabilised receiver that knows the control surfaces are reversed.
Yeah, I usually start around 30% for the gain. Depending on the plane and the throws, it’s usually about right.
I just unboxed an SR10 Pro receiver. Channels 9, 10, and 12 are used for stabilization. That only leaves 8 channels to control the aircraft. How do I use all 10 channels to control the aircraft?
I am recording a video for the SR10 Pro. That’s in the video. All you need to do is go in to the receiver options and change the assignment of the output pins of 9 and 10 to channels 13 and 14.
@@MrD You are good! Thank you.
No problem 👍🏻
I canot activate Self Check because it is always in grey any idea?
If this is an S6R or S8R, the self check option does not work. You need to set up the self check switch as shown in this video.
Been using these S6R receievers for a long while now and never had any trouble. Loaded latest S6R accst FW for D16 compatibility with X20 no trouble. Bound and calibrated using X20 no trouble.
Self check and all separate channel gain adjustmens are grayed out, unselectable. Did this with 2 different receivers and same deal. Maybe the latest X20 FW is not working correctly with these functions?
(addendum: FW v 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 leave above mentioned settings grayed out, inactive. FW 1.1.1 works as in your video).
Another bizarre anomaly is if the landing gear are down and its in auto level mode, if you roll the aircraft inverted to check auto level it actuates control as expected but then the gear also retracts and extends as it's rolled through 360 degrees. Frustrated now as I have many of these receivers and am not about to replace them all. Also I did not know about the oh crap feature but never use it because if you are in autolevel mode it does the same thing and all you have to do is switch into autolevel mode from stabilized or manual switch position and aircraft recovers attitude immediately.
Alos I think you can go pins forward you just have to go in and invert some control directions.
Hi there. I did a check and found that the gain adjustments are greyed out if the SXR Enable is in the off position. This makes sense as there will be no stabilisation. If yours it on, it may be worth switching it off, exiting out, and switching it back on again. Maybe it will get it working. Just seen the addendum. Sounds like a bug in ETHOS in that case. It would be worth raising the issue on GitHub if it's not there already. I'll leave the first part, just in case it brings the options back.
The retracts thing is weird. Do you have them on channel 5 or 6? If so, did you remember to turn on AUX1 Enable (for ch 5) or AUX 2 Enable (for ch 6). If not, it could be sending aileron or elevator stabilisation to that channel.
The pins are always to the back with these receivers.
I've noticed that there was a change in 1.1.2 for the SXR Self Check. So maybe that added the bug. I've noticed a 1.1.4 release now. I also looked for bugs reported for the SXR gains, but did not see anything.
@@MrD
Thanks for reminder I had aux enable for channel 5 in wrong position... thought I tried that but anyway I had it backwards and working normally now. : )
Tried disabling S6R in device config backed out, went in and re-enabled but no luck there. I even tried disabling, turning everything off, rebooting everything, go into config and enable S6R but still no luck. Installed latest 1.1.4 with same result, all individual stabilization settings grayed out and no self check option present. Reverted to 1.1.1 and all is well... Thanks again for the feedback!
@@MrD I have flown many models pins forward on this receiver with no trouble. All one need do is check stabilization is correcting controls in proper directions and invert in S6R config menu if needed.
Cool. At least you have a solution. I’ll check out when I update. I’ll get something up on GitHub and hopefully there will be a fix soon.
Where did you buy your airplane demo kit from?
Bobby, I designed and cut it myself.
@@MrD Excellent tool to have, I'm going to copy your ideal if you don't mind for myself! Thanks, and I love the video too...
Go for it. Though, if I were to do mine again. I’d 3D print the control horns. The glue is a real pain.
@@MrD Great idea, I`ll ask a friend of mine if he could 3D print a model similar to yours, thanks for the advice, keep up the good work.
You’re welcome 👍🏻
Thank you for your Videos, im a new Ethos user, but i work with opentx since 8 years ago. But in the Gyrosettings from the S8R i cant change the gains in %, thats not available to change something. Can you tell me why? I can change the gain with my Poti S2 but i cant change the max% and min% for stabilization, hold, knife-edge... the texts are grey unclickable
Someone else mentioned this the other day. I’ve not had a chance to try it myself yet. But it could be a bug in ETHOS. They found the settings could not be changed in versions 1.1.2 to 1.1.4. But it was fine in 1.1.1.
I mean to test this out too and raise an issue on the ETHOS GitHub if I see the bug too.
How can I setup a second SxR redundant receiver?
I believe it’s not recommended to use a stabilised receiver as the redundant receiver. But also neither SxR receiver has an SBUS in, so cannot take a redundancy receiver input.
@@MrD Ok, thanks. Is there a procedure for receivers with the s.Bus input
@@MrD This appears in the product description, "SR8 PRO can also be used as a redundancy receiver along with any other FrSky ACCESS capable receiver equipped with an SBUS port." This is what I want to do. Thank you for what you do.
Yes, the SRx receivers have SBUS in and can have a redundancy receiver attached. ACCESS makes things easier, as there are already 3 bind options per model.
I will be making a video on redundancy, it’s already on my list. The process is basically bind the receivers individually to the same model. Then take the SBUS out of the redundancy receiver and plug it in to the SBUS IN of the master receiver.
@@MrD Thank you again. I look forward to your video.
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Found "MY" problem. It had nothing to do with the receivers or setup. "My" problem was with the Castle Creations e.s.c. setup. I do a "manual" setup of the e.s.c. First. Turn the radio and receiver on. Make sure your motor is not connected. Move throttle stick to maximum. Than in the throttle endpoints adjustments, reduce the maximum and minimum values to +25% and -25%. With the throttle stick still at maximum begin to increase the +25% value until to hear a couple of "tones" from the e.s.c. Than move the throttle stick to the "lowest" position. Begin to increase the -25% value until you hear the e.s.c. "arm" itself. The e.s.c. is ready to go. The problem is that these values are "TOO LOW FOR THE GYRO TO INITIATE SELF CHECK" Return these values to +100% and -100% and you'll be able to enter the "SELF CHECK" that is required to finish setting up the gyro.
Channel 9 (Gain) and channel 10 (Stabilization) cannot be reassigned. That makes pins 9 and 10 on the receiver "unusable" That's not acceptable ! The final calibration of the gyro, to find it's level position, according to your instructions, does not work on the SR10PRO. Your "Oh Crap" function, also does not work on this receiver.
Hi Frank. You must have something setup incorrectly. I’ve just gone through the process and it all works. Channel 9 is gain. Pins 9 and 10 can be re-assigned. The Oh crap function (channel 12) works fine too.
I will have a video soon. But I’m working away a lot at the moment. So my time is very limited.
@@MrD Thanks Daren. Yes I see that. It should be noted that channels 9 ,10,and 12 are "Virtual" channels. Thus making pins 9,10 reassignable to other servo functions. Still unable to do final calibration of the gyro. I'll keep trying. Just so you know. I spend many hours trying new programming and sorting out problems. It's always nice when things come together.
@@MrD I've tried this exact setup on three other SR10PRO receivers with the exact same results.
this is all out dated. 1- self check has changed and is different. 2- if you upgrade your rx firmware the Sxr channels are 13, 14 and 16 instead of 9, 10 and 12
Not quite. The SxR receivers (the subject of this video) still use the self check switch and channels 9-12. They don’t have updated firmware.
The Archer SRx receivers have newer firmware. So the self check is now done in the old SxR Tool. Not via a switch. But, the channels for stabilisation functions are still 9-12.
The new Archer Plus SRx receivers have the new firmware and new tool (see my video on setting up the SRx LUA Tool). So they use the LUA tool to self check and the stabilisation functions are on channels 13-16. ua-cam.com/video/gzc1VwEPfCE/v-deo.html