I should also say its so refreshing that you are so thoughtful and responsive! Its clear from your content, but your passion really shows. Without channels and websites like yours, I probably either wouldn't get an E-bike, or be getting one that is a poor fit for me. Your reviews consistently give tons of information that is digestible for all ranges of experience and you keep the community positive and open. That goes a long way and I think you should know it is appreciated. I doubt you'll ever know how big an impact you and your team have in the long run, but trust me, its extremely significant.
Aww, thanks so much puccagarukiss! It’s nice to read your comment because those are many of the exact values I’m going for. You have a way with words! Would you like to be friends?
@@ElectricBikeReview Thats very kind of you! I would love to keep in touch so long as that's ok with you! I'm currently in St. Louis so if your travels ever take you here let me know! I'll suggest some great places you can get some grub, lol.
Nice, informative review of a very nicely featured cargo bike. It seems a great value for its price! It was useful Blix configured a trio with different sets of accessories to demonstrate how customizable it is. Thank you for including information about the available extended warranty. More companies should offer one, especially for direct-to-consumer bikes, when service can be a concern if local bike shops aren’t used to working on ebikes.
Thanks for the detailed review! One request: please tell us the actual steepness of the hills when you climb them (using the Hill Attack app). It's very hard to see how steep the hills are because of camera distortion and the lack of an even horizon line.
So professional and helpful! Thanks to you, I chose the genie over last years model. And mostly just because of some nuanced details you brought out, that I wouldn't have know about. Thank you!! =)
Do you think the new Packa handles hills better than the new Rad Wagon 4? Both have upgraded motors and I've got some decent sized hills in my area. You're the only blogger I know who's ridden them both Thanks!
Great review! $300 more for dual battery set up. Hydralic disk brakes on this model too. I own a Blix Aveny, but want the Sol Eclipse. We will see. Please make sure the specs are update on the review. The last few haven't been updated.
I really appreciate this video! Two follow-up questions if anyone can help: 1. EBR lists the Packa Genie's torque at 90Nm, but Blix stated the Packa Genie's torque is only 45Nm. I called Blix to clarify, but the person on the phone did not know the torque number. The Radwagon 4 lists 80Nm torque. Does the Packa Genie have more torque than the Radwagon, or barely half of it? Ultimately I'd like to easily climb big hills with my kid on the back. 2. Your video gives us a glimpse of adjusting the maximum speed in the Packa's computer (up to 45kph/28mph). Blix told me that the Packa Genie cannot increase it's max cutoff speed of 20mph. Is this true or can it be changed? You know...for private property use. Thanks
Have you tried the kbo ranger? It’s a cargo bike with 20” wheels or the Radio Flyer L885 that has a 20” in the back and a 26” in the front? Do they compare well? Thanks
You're welcome, yes! I also filmed that model during my trip to Santa Cruz, and I'll have it live in the coming weeks. I was impressed that it used the same motor as the Packa Genie. If you have any questions about it, I can try to answer them in the meantime ;)
@@ElectricBikeReview thank you for such a quick response! I just bought the Sol Eclipse after seeing its wonderful specs and color selection. It will be my first ebike. I am also a heavier rider and I know I was lucky to find a cruiser bike with a 750w motor at this price point to ensure ease of use. (I have some steep hills near me, lol) I guess my main question is based on the performance of the 750w on the Genie, do you think the Sol will pack a punch? Also does the Sol Eclipse come with the abilty to adjust max speed?
Yeah, it has the same display and allows for adjustable top speed too. Given that it has slightly larger wheels, the motor won’t get the same mechanical advantage. It also has a barter gear range of 14-28 vs 14-34 here. It performed well during the ride tests, and I hope it meets your needs. Which color did you go for?!
@@ElectricBikeReview i got the seafoam color. I am just obsessed with everything mint green these days. I think it has the same pop as they sky-blue, but less typical, you know?
Nice! I liked the sea foam green and the light blue. Honestly, the pink is beautiful, and I could see it being very popular. Blix did the gray as well, which I’m sure some people will appreciate, but the colors are my favorite 🤩
Thank you for the very valuable info. It looks like a great option in the electric bike market. Unfortunately, it fits riders from 5'1" - 6'3". I am on the short side of the spectrum...do you know of electric cargo bikes for shorter ppl? If you do, would you please share that link -
What is the 62 at the top? I got this bike a couple of weeks ago (I love it). It drives me crazy not knowing! 😀 I do not love Blix support - they will help but you have to be persistent and ask a slot of questions
@@tealover5880 that makes so much sense! TY - I have just been riding with the rear battery as I go out for short trips (cold here) and carry my bike up and down stairs so trying to minimise the weight 🙄😂💥
My bike was stolen last night. =( So I'm in the market and a little overwhelmed. Any suggestions for brands/models I should be looking at? Mostly looking for a commuter at this price point. Thanks! ($2000ish)
@@jflartner117 Depends if you need a folding bike, if not, then don't buy one. do you want a step thru? Hills? Try to get as much Wattage and battery capacity as your budget allows. A weaker motor will work harder and not last as long. Read plenty of reviews online.
I just orderd my Blix Cargo bike. My wife has a more casual model. Question: I am 6'2'' tall and we plan to carry 2 small children on my cargo. Its interesting to me that these bikes only come in hard-tale/no front shocks. Would you recommend upgrading the bike with front shocks? I have taken my wife bike for a few spins (no shockcks on hers). It has not seemed to be much of an issue. However, with my cargo bike I will obviously be carrying a a lot of weight. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Yeah. However, I try to be constructive in the way I communicate because a low priced ebike with some compromises is not necessarily bad. I tend not to cover a lot of products that I feel have too many compromises or are at risk of failure. I’ve covered many products that barely made it to market (mostly Amazon ebikes), and then they stopped being available. Here’s one product that had a very nice team but just wasn’t that good. They went out of business electricbikereview.com/rubbee/drive-2-0/ Every product I review has a list of considerations back at the site. This Blix Packa Genie has 15 cons that are mostly covered in the video, but might be easier or more clear in written form electricbikereview.com/blix/packa-genie/
Yeah, that’s a good suggestion… I’ve been reading comments that say it’s only $300 or $400 for the extra pack, which is half of what I expected?! So maybe they sell the chargers cheap too?
How do you see this comparing against the RadWagon 4? Seems like it has higher torque, higher capacity, longer range (with second battery) for $200 less? Rad has the bigger userbase and more accessories. When do you think we'll see a RadWagon 5?
Hi Elliot, I was definitely impressed with the Blix offering here, but I also like what Rad is doing. They chose a very unique proprietary tire size of 22" x 3.3" so it's slightly lower. Rad probably wins in terms of accessories, cross compatibility, brand recognition, and customer service (with the vans and storefronts), but the Blix Packa definitely caught my attention with the double battery, multiple colors, and small-company feel. They've grown a lot, but seem to be doing an amazing job. More reviews from both companies on the way soon ;)
I would suggest getting a women's saddle, they even make unisex saddles. Which is what I would think is on your bike presently. Also the height of you saddle might make a difference. But that normally would cause pain in your knees. Hope this advice helps. :D
4:19 - The extra eyelets in the back for trailer mounts are winning me over... 5:18 - Shimano megarange freewheel with 34T was a necessity making heavy loads and steep hills look easy without electric power. It's a nice frame and I like the almost stealth main battery.
@@AmitZinmanVideo - I think Bosch makes high-quality, reliable and safe low-power motors (250W - 350W). Anything that I install myself will easily be 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, or even potentially 12 times more powerful with at least double the amount of torque to get me up steep hills. The only thing that would attract me to Bosch is its sensors and how the bike rides because I like my bicycles to actually feel like bicycles. Hub motors with cadence sensors turn bicycles into scooters. I'd stick with mid-drives to feel more connected to the bike.
I do, am I missing something? The electronics are all water resistant. Any bike could slide easier in wet conditions, so maybe ride slower and take corners carefully?
@@ElectricBikeReview not to mention the ground doesn't have to be very wet (nor does it have to be raining) for fenderless tires to make a mess of your clothes.
I should also say its so refreshing that you are so thoughtful and responsive! Its clear from your content, but your passion really shows. Without channels and websites like yours, I probably either wouldn't get an E-bike, or be getting one that is a poor fit for me.
Your reviews consistently give tons of information that is digestible for all ranges of experience and you keep the community positive and open. That goes a long way and I think you should know it is appreciated. I doubt you'll ever know how big an impact you and your team have in the long run, but trust me, its extremely significant.
Aww, thanks so much puccagarukiss! It’s nice to read your comment because those are many of the exact values I’m going for. You have a way with words! Would you like to be friends?
@@ElectricBikeReview Thats very kind of you! I would love to keep in touch so long as that's ok with you! I'm currently in St. Louis so if your travels ever take you here let me know! I'll suggest some great places you can get some grub, lol.
yall put that thing thru the paces . this is why Full Reviews really help buyers and the Whole market . 💪🏽⚡
Well, I try my best... and we had fun too. Thanks for your encouragement :D
I checked their site and it says that it has a 14-34 tooth cassette I know u called it a freewheel but they it’s a cassette on the site
Thank you so much for this. Do you have a comparison video for this and the Rad Bike I am torn between these two?
Recently bought two of these and your review really helped. We are close to sc to and man they are game changing and so much fun with the family
Nice, informative review of a very nicely featured cargo bike. It seems a great value for its price!
It was useful Blix configured a trio with different sets of accessories to demonstrate how customizable it is. Thank you for including information about the available extended warranty. More companies should offer one, especially for direct-to-consumer bikes, when service can be a concern if local bike shops aren’t used to working on ebikes.
Thanks for the detailed review!
One request: please tell us the actual steepness of the hills when you climb them (using the Hill Attack app). It's very hard to see how steep the hills are because of camera distortion and the lack of an even horizon line.
So professional and helpful! Thanks to you, I chose the genie over last years model. And mostly just because of some nuanced details you brought out, that I wouldn't have know about. Thank you!! =)
Amazing price for such a customizable bike!
Was on the fence between this and a rad wagon. Went with the wagon because the shipping was supposed to be sooner. I guess we will see.
Do you think the new Packa handles hills better than the new Rad Wagon 4? Both have upgraded motors and I've got some decent sized hills in my area. You're the only blogger I know who's ridden them both Thanks!
Great review! $300 more for dual battery set up. Hydralic disk brakes on this model too. I own a Blix Aveny, but want the Sol Eclipse. We will see. Please make sure the specs are update on the review. The last few haven't been updated.
Great review! At 26:40 you mention there is an extra handle available. Are you referring to the "VIP section" accessory?
Definitely a great option for a cargo ebike. Love the mounting points for a kids trailer. Others should do the same.
Great review! I’ve put 150 miles on mine in 4 weeks
Lots of kids
This was hella thorough. I’m sold! 🙌🏾🚴🏾
I really appreciate this video! Two follow-up questions if anyone can help:
1. EBR lists the Packa Genie's torque at 90Nm, but Blix stated the Packa Genie's torque is only 45Nm. I called Blix to clarify, but the person on the phone did not know the torque number. The Radwagon 4 lists 80Nm torque. Does the Packa Genie have more torque than the Radwagon, or barely half of it? Ultimately I'd like to easily climb big hills with my kid on the back.
2. Your video gives us a glimpse of adjusting the maximum speed in the Packa's computer (up to 45kph/28mph). Blix told me that the Packa Genie cannot increase it's max cutoff speed of 20mph. Is this true or can it be changed? You know...for private property use.
Thanks
Great video love the Ebikes!! I actually have 1 question about your video equipment? What Camera are you using?
Have you tried the kbo ranger? It’s a cargo bike with 20” wheels or the Radio Flyer L885 that has a 20” in the back and a 26” in the front? Do they compare well? Thanks
It is very practical and convenient, and can carry out physical exercise.
Does the Thule yepp maxi mount without the adapter? Thank you! Loved the video.
Thanks for this! Will you be doing a review of the new Sol Eclipse as well?
You're welcome, yes! I also filmed that model during my trip to Santa Cruz, and I'll have it live in the coming weeks. I was impressed that it used the same motor as the Packa Genie. If you have any questions about it, I can try to answer them in the meantime ;)
@@ElectricBikeReview thank you for such a quick response! I just bought the Sol Eclipse after seeing its wonderful specs and color selection. It will be my first ebike. I am also a heavier rider and I know I was lucky to find a cruiser bike with a 750w motor at this price point to ensure ease of use. (I have some steep hills near me, lol) I guess my main question is based on the performance of the 750w on the Genie, do you think the Sol will pack a punch? Also does the Sol Eclipse come with the abilty to adjust max speed?
Yeah, it has the same display and allows for adjustable top speed too. Given that it has slightly larger wheels, the motor won’t get the same mechanical advantage. It also has a barter gear range of 14-28 vs 14-34 here. It performed well during the ride tests, and I hope it meets your needs. Which color did you go for?!
@@ElectricBikeReview i got the seafoam color. I am just obsessed with everything mint green these days. I think it has the same pop as they sky-blue, but less typical, you know?
Nice! I liked the sea foam green and the light blue. Honestly, the pink is beautiful, and I could see it being very popular. Blix did the gray as well, which I’m sure some people will appreciate, but the colors are my favorite 🤩
Thank you for the very valuable info. It looks like a great option in the electric bike market. Unfortunately, it fits riders from 5'1" - 6'3". I am on the short side of the spectrum...do you know of electric cargo bikes for shorter ppl? If you do, would you please share that link -
I’m 4 foot 11 and they have some bikes on the website for 4 foot 11+ people
Wheel Base please.
What is the 62 at the top? I got this bike a couple of weeks ago (I love it). It drives me crazy not knowing! 😀 I do not love Blix support - they will help but you have to be persistent and ask a slot of questions
Hey! The 62 is really b2 and is referring to Battery 2 on the Packa Genie.
@@tealover5880 that makes so much sense! TY - I have just been riding with the rear battery as I go out for short trips (cold here) and carry my bike up and down stairs so trying to minimise the weight 🙄😂💥
Luv the bike! It's a beast!
There are so many good e bikes available now at this price point that it is almost impossible to pick the "perfect" bike for your needs.
My bike was stolen last night. =( So I'm in the market and a little overwhelmed. Any suggestions for brands/models I should be looking at? Mostly looking for a commuter at this price point. Thanks! ($2000ish)
@@jflartner117 Depends if you need a folding bike, if not, then don't buy one. do you want a step thru? Hills? Try to get as much Wattage and battery capacity as your budget allows. A weaker motor will work harder and not last as long. Read plenty of reviews online.
I just orderd my Blix Cargo bike. My wife has a more casual model.
Question: I am 6'2'' tall and we plan to carry 2 small children on my cargo. Its interesting to me that these bikes only come in hard-tale/no front shocks. Would you recommend upgrading the bike with front shocks? I have taken my wife bike for a few spins (no shockcks on hers). It has not seemed to be much of an issue. However, with my cargo bike I will obviously be carrying a a lot of weight. Any feedback would be appreciated.
New price 2299$ for dual battery..
Can you tell how much NM? 90 NM or 45 NM?
Nice thorough review! But where are these Blix bikes made?
Website says rear rack limit is 200 lbs. so which is it?
Do you ever give any e-bikes a bad review?
Yeah. However, I try to be constructive in the way I communicate because a low priced ebike with some compromises is not necessarily bad. I tend not to cover a lot of products that I feel have too many compromises or are at risk of failure. I’ve covered many products that barely made it to market (mostly Amazon ebikes), and then they stopped being available. Here’s one product that had a very nice team but just wasn’t that good. They went out of business electricbikereview.com/rubbee/drive-2-0/
Every product I review has a list of considerations back at the site. This Blix Packa Genie has 15 cons that are mostly covered in the video, but might be easier or more clear in written form electricbikereview.com/blix/packa-genie/
You should get another charger if you pony up for a second battery.
Yeah, that’s a good suggestion… I’ve been reading comments that say it’s only $300 or $400 for the extra pack, which is half of what I expected?! So maybe they sell the chargers cheap too?
How do you see this comparing against the RadWagon 4? Seems like it has higher torque, higher capacity, longer range (with second battery) for $200 less? Rad has the bigger userbase and more accessories. When do you think we'll see a RadWagon 5?
Hi Elliot, I was definitely impressed with the Blix offering here, but I also like what Rad is doing. They chose a very unique proprietary tire size of 22" x 3.3" so it's slightly lower. Rad probably wins in terms of accessories, cross compatibility, brand recognition, and customer service (with the vans and storefronts), but the Blix Packa definitely caught my attention with the double battery, multiple colors, and small-company feel. They've grown a lot, but seem to be doing an amazing job. More reviews from both companies on the way soon ;)
Did the two dudes make it up the hill? Looks like the gave up @ 23:28
27:01 you say "we all made it up" 🙌
I live in flat Indiana and would miss the direct drive motor of the 2020 model, which is quiet and dependable.
How much does this bike weight, I am pondering options to transport the bike
I wonder if you get the same range by using the 2 batteries at the same time, or use one till it's empty and then switching to the 2nd one.
I think the video states that it alternates between the two, but draws from one at a time.
I have a problem with my groin hurting after 1:45 of riding. Maybe you could do a video for optimal groin comfort over long hauls?
I would suggest getting a women's saddle, they even make unisex saddles. Which is what I would think is on your bike presently. Also the height of you saddle might make a difference. But that normally would cause pain in your knees. Hope this advice helps. :D
If you visit Santa Cruz, is there a way to take a test ride ?
Looks alot like the radwagon. Whats the difference?
What’s the top top speed
very nice
$1999 now but still a fair price
Kids fingers, thank you!
"I like this bike because it comes in three colors". lol
I think i like this better than my radwagon lol sorry radpower bikes
Wheel base tire size
deflopilator is the word of the week
Haha, yeah. I’ve also heard it called a “stabilizer spring” but deflopilator is much more fun ;)
is it possible to add a middle motor there to increase the power?
Bummer, price went up by $300
I could add a mid-drive motor to it... 😓
4:19 - The extra eyelets in the back for trailer mounts are winning me over...
5:18 - Shimano megarange freewheel with 34T was a necessity making heavy loads and steep hills look easy without electric power.
It's a nice frame and I like the almost stealth main battery.
I have a much more expensive Tern GSD mid-drive bike and it's both noisier and provides no discernible advantages as far as I can tell.
@@AmitZinmanVideo - I think Bosch makes high-quality, reliable and safe low-power motors (250W - 350W).
Anything that I install myself will easily be 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, or even potentially 12 times more powerful with at least double the amount of torque to get me up steep hills.
The only thing that would attract me to Bosch is its sensors and how the bike rides because I like my bicycles to actually feel like bicycles.
Hub motors with cadence sensors turn bicycles into scooters. I'd stick with mid-drives to feel more connected to the bike.
@@AmitZinmanVideo - That's weird. I just noticed that Bosch underrates their motors. Sometimes by a little and sometimes by a lot. That's confusing.
I wonder if they’ll drop their prices when the supply line from the Far East normalises?
I think we can all guess the answer to that one.
Expected great deals during upcoming recession
All these bikes coming with fenders. Who trusts any of these bikes in the rain?
I do, am I missing something? The electronics are all water resistant. Any bike could slide easier in wet conditions, so maybe ride slower and take corners carefully?
@@ElectricBikeReview not to mention the ground doesn't have to be very wet (nor does it have to be raining) for fenderless tires to make a mess of your clothes.