Josh Pate On Deion Sanders & Colorado - What's The Strategy? (Late Kick Cut)

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  • Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
  • Deion Sanders & Colorado are approaching the 2024 College Football season with a ton of questions surrounding the program. On Late Kick Live Ep 504 Josh Pate looked the approach Deion is taking in Boulder with the Transfer Portal being leaned on heavily and wondered whether it could work. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 326

  • @Twitz88
    @Twitz88 5 місяців тому +69

    You gotta have depth, just because a guy isn't a starter doesn't mean they're not vital to the team's success. The reason why UGA, Ohio St, Bama, etc. compete at a high level is because they have so much depth. When Deion said he wasnt interested in high school recruiting I knew he didn't know what he was doing.

    • @ThreadAndCircuses1
      @ThreadAndCircuses1 5 місяців тому +8

      They actually have P4 starters/rotational players in the 2 deep now. Last year it was G5/FCS players.

    • @gobucs7870
      @gobucs7870 5 місяців тому +6

      Those schools you name have transfers also..They also have a lot more money than most..

    • @younggoose7315
      @younggoose7315 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ThreadAndCircuses1still not good enough

    • @LeJoker8
      @LeJoker8 5 місяців тому +2

      Preach!!!!!!!!!!

    • @tylersheppard5450
      @tylersheppard5450 5 місяців тому

      I think the bigger issue with Deion(who I like)- ask Kentucky/ Oklahoma State/ Texas Tech of the world how much better they would be with Sander/ Hunter? Plus 2 games minimum.

  • @JoshPateCFB
    @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому +4

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

  • @sirenejohnson6668
    @sirenejohnson6668 5 місяців тому +10

    In the current state of transfer portal chaos, you are ABSOLUTELY out of your mind to believe a new program can afford to BUILD a team from incoming freshman and compete today. CU wasn’t afforded the old fashioned way of building a team. Times have changed, get over it. The state of football has NEVER been THIS current state of hall ass when you want to.
    I can’t predict how soon they will win, but doing it your way would take 5-7 years. Ain’t nobody got time for that.

    • @Mrfreshtake
      @Mrfreshtake 5 місяців тому +1

      Period! You can’t do it. It will
      Take prime seasons to do that. He has to win now

    • @JJ-zr6fu
      @JJ-zr6fu 4 місяці тому

      @Mrfreshtake He said that last year to 4-8 is what you got. It doesn’t work

    • @Mrfreshtake
      @Mrfreshtake 4 місяці тому

      @@JJ-zr6fu this would have to be said for every single college football program in the country. @on3 is very insightful. It lets you see the real
      Picture. Most programs had 30 plus transfers out including the majors

    • @Mrfreshtake
      @Mrfreshtake 4 місяці тому

      @@JJ-zr6fu I mean 40-50 other teams in FBS were 4-8 last year and they recruited the slow way. Whats your point?

    • @blaynebittencourt5076
      @blaynebittencourt5076 4 місяці тому

      Just wrong. You HAVE to recruit from high school.

  • @philtjr
    @philtjr 5 місяців тому +6

    Josh, let's explore your core belief: How do you intend to uphold team depth without overspending? As top-tier backup players depart for better opportunities without significant incentives, they're likely to explore other options. At a recent football camp, a prominent recruiter advised high school players aiming for the NFL to choose schools where they can make an immediate impact. If that doesn't materialize in the first year, the advice is to move on. However, if a substantial offer is on the table, sticking around for two years is advised, but leaving by the third. These players are the future, so your convictions will be tested this year and the next. Colorado maintains a strong core from last year, leading to confusion about your position. Dismissing this as a matter of principle disregards the swift changes in college football. Those like you, rooted in traditional perspectives, may need to adapt or risk being sidelined. College football is evolving rapidly, and it will never be the same.

  • @NeonKing079
    @NeonKing079 5 місяців тому +41

    “StOp ThE HatE” famous last words from the Deion Dingleberries

    • @C_71
      @C_71 5 місяців тому +1

      Hey number one fan!

    • @jaybrown3341
      @jaybrown3341 5 місяців тому +2

      Proud “dingleberry” here…me and your mama of course🫶🏾

    • @NeonKing079
      @NeonKing079 5 місяців тому

      @@jaybrown3341grow up

    • @noahhoush15
      @noahhoush15 5 місяців тому +1

      @@jaybrown33414-8 delusional

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +1

      @@noahhoush15 I saw a guy on Colin Cowhead say "8 Wins" I literally laughed out loud. Thes guy are just Deion simps.

  • @HeartlessWon506
    @HeartlessWon506 5 місяців тому +20

    There is no team that has fans divided and ready to talk more than CU right now. Once again in the off-season they’re the biggest story.

    • @ericguerra7319
      @ericguerra7319 5 місяців тому

      I wouldn't say they're the BIGGEST story this offseason but they've had their moments.

    • @dadwithavlog5268
      @dadwithavlog5268 5 місяців тому +4

      Yet he has failed to translate that into high school recruiting success.

    • @LeJoker8
      @LeJoker8 5 місяців тому +4

      The biggest story for all the wrong reasons…I don’t think that’s a win…🤣

    • @Dupreehundo-rq3bq
      @Dupreehundo-rq3bq 5 місяців тому +1

      5-7 at best go off season champs

    • @kingsaco
      @kingsaco 5 місяців тому +1

      The American way is to sell people hope. Regardless, if Deion and Colorado has a record of 3-9. They will be mist watch TV once again because people love the underdog and controversy. Plus, the school will be making millions!!

  • @v.l.c3979
    @v.l.c3979 5 місяців тому +8

    As a canes fan i wish the best for Colorado

  • @Badger5280
    @Badger5280 5 місяців тому +2

    Sanders was out coached in a number of games last season. There is no way this team wins 6 games this year!

  • @dare2554
    @dare2554 5 місяців тому +5

    I'm seeing a 5-7 season coming up with no bowl again

    • @jeannettefox3496
      @jeannettefox3496 5 місяців тому

      Wow can you for tell the future??? That is news to me!

    • @Fluffylife420
      @Fluffylife420 4 місяці тому

      @@jeannettefox3496 right…..what a weird concept of predicting a season. It’s like the above poster, came to their own conclusion, and that’s just mind-boggling. It must be a first. Just completely wild…..I’m seeing 6-7 though

  • @sxtzay_otg9951
    @sxtzay_otg9951 5 місяців тому +8

    The big 12 is so balance it’s like 4 teams with a chance and Josh is smart not predicting early

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 5 місяців тому

      id say utah is probably a bit more of a favorite but its going to be close

    • @machiavellisprince5986
      @machiavellisprince5986 5 місяців тому

      His followers have been predicting for the last two months.

  • @RodrigoAu2338
    @RodrigoAu2338 5 місяців тому +5

    Lane Kiffin is portaling his way to a playoff spot

    • @mikejersey7214
      @mikejersey7214 5 місяців тому

      He’s at least getting top 20 recruiting classes tho.

    • @jeannettefox3496
      @jeannettefox3496 5 місяців тому

      @@mikejersey7214 Deion is too but Kiffin is the Good Ole Boy and Coach Prime is not! Does that pretty much sum it up??

    • @jakobwedel3168
      @jakobwedel3168 5 місяців тому

      ​@jeannettefox3496 Deion's recruiting class was in the 60's. Try again

    • @blaynebittencourt5076
      @blaynebittencourt5076 4 місяці тому

      ​@@jeannettefox3496idiot.

  • @campbellcampbell9059
    @campbellcampbell9059 5 місяців тому +1

    Buffs have gotten better with every portal. Seems to go to reason they will get better with this Spring portal. Buffs lost 6 games by a score or less last season and won 4 games in a pretty solid PaC12. Seems to go to reason that Buffs will win more games this season if they get better after two more portals. They need to recruit Prep, but suspect when Deion turns on that spigot… he’ll succeed.

  • @Major_DK
    @Major_DK 5 місяців тому +5

    No one is giving Coach Prime 3 or 4 years to start winning. I know it seems like a philosophy but it is really a necessity to use the portal. How else was CU going to improve the O Line and D Line?
    Coach Prime speaks directly and with confidence bc honestly that's the only path available. So what's the use in crying about it when it is the most direct path to winning.

    • @dragonsurge1
      @dragonsurge1 5 місяців тому +1

      The Internet trolls won’t give him 3-4 years but that’s realistically what it takes.
      He’s NEVER going to start winning consistently without high school recruiting.

    • @NKA0713
      @NKA0713 5 місяців тому

      @@dragonsurge1Tbf Deion brought those unrealistic expectations on himself. If I were to follow CU without knowing anything about CFB, I’d be thinking he’d be a playoff contender based on how much he ran his mouth about how good CU was gonna.

    • @davuhn2
      @davuhn2 5 місяців тому

      @@NKA0713is he suppose to say they’re going to be trash or Average? Who wants to hear that? You guys are losers lol

    • @NKA0713
      @NKA0713 5 місяців тому

      @@davuhn2 Obviously he can’t say his team is gonna be trash, but Deion, his team, and his fanboys were talking all that shit during the off-season just to go 4-8. Also how are u gonna call someone a loser when ur out here sucking up to another grown ass man on the internet? Ur no better than me or anyone in the comment section talking about Deion at CU.

    • @JJ-zr6fu
      @JJ-zr6fu 4 місяці тому

      Love how you think his curated clips he puts out is who he really is.

  • @natestyron4830
    @natestyron4830 5 місяців тому +2

    Can we stop acting like he's been there for 5 years. He's only had 1 season and the number of players that transferred out this year is significantly less then the number from last year. Tells me a bunch of players stayed and last i checked you have to have players stay to build a program. Soo what is the discussion about? Loyalty and culture. You build that by winning and this season hasn't been played. No body knows if what he's doing will or won't work...all this "back in my day" talk just sounds good for the talk shows.

    • @natestyron4830
      @natestyron4830 5 місяців тому +1

      @@nicholastaiariol2631 1-11 with Traditional method players. 4-8 with Portal. What are you talking about? Seems like an upward trajectory to me since we're using 1 year sample sizes to predict future outcomes.

    • @biingolewis7824
      @biingolewis7824 5 місяців тому +2

      He told the entire world he needs a new line. All cause he was upset because of their performance after a game. You call that Loyalty?

  • @curtissahadath3202
    @curtissahadath3202 5 місяців тому +1

    If you think that Coach Prime know EXACTLY what he's doing.
    Josh you MISSEDTHEBOAT
    Bruh.

  • @kapla2004
    @kapla2004 5 місяців тому +15

    Deion is Bulls-era Tom Thibodeau. He runs his first team into the ground and he doesn’t seem to care about depth, which is what it takes to compete.

    • @jeannettefox3496
      @jeannettefox3496 5 місяців тому +1

      Your butt is on the couch. Has not played one down in the NFL. So what credibility do you have to make that observation! If you can call it that!

    • @kapla2004
      @kapla2004 5 місяців тому

      @@jeannettefox3496 just using my eyes I guess. They started hot and then lost a bunch of games because they don’t have high-quality depth

    • @bladegerm
      @bladegerm 5 місяців тому

      cant do that when players can jump into the portal anytime they want, i suspect NCAA has allowed the portal to stay open multiple times to sabotage Deion's team however they have played into his hands lol. The problem with todays CFB, everyone wants to be 1st string if they are not starters then off into the portal they go. The players that Nick Saban just kept around chillin as depth, they all wanted to play but could not because CFB had talent on lock. Not anymore lol, this may indeed be its end..... for those who cant cope that is

    • @bladegerm
      @bladegerm 5 місяців тому

      because of the portal you cant have dept because the truth is everyone thinks they are starters. The minute they sense that they are not him in the portal they go. So smarty..... what do you do?

    • @bladegerm
      @bladegerm 5 місяців тому

      the days of only the 1% making billions off of talent are over.... well not really, the coaches like Nick Saban will leave and the coaches who where forced to learn their place by CFB upper class will now be the masters of the universe, like Mike Norvell whos been around 40 yrs but no one knows him.

  • @oldschoolsaint
    @oldschoolsaint 5 місяців тому +1

    So much for developing young men in the name of the Lord.

  • @darius8838
    @darius8838 5 місяців тому +2

    I’m torn on this subject bc the way Deion recruits yes it can be a quick fix but you need those HS recruits to buy in to the program when you got guys coming from everywhere some are there to play and commit some for social media exposure I think they need to hit the 25 class hard as they can although I don’t agree with the social media strategy it’ll be the only way

  • @wesleydepriest8579
    @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому +14

    I love coach prime but this model doesnt look sustainable, you have got to have a solid foundation, culture and depth

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 5 місяців тому

      100%

    • @wesleydepriest8579
      @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому

      Hey will, when did you fall ?

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 5 місяців тому

      @@wesleydepriest8579 LONG LONG LONG time ago lol

    • @wesleydepriest8579
      @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому

      @@willl7780 good to be past that

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому

      Its 100% NOT. If he is going the portal route and wants to get his horse from there, that's fine but he NEEDS the 2* and 3* (And even walk ons) who will be there 4-5 years to really fill it out. otherwise in 2-4 years you are going to have scholarship problems and not have enough bodies on a roster. It could get ugly and QUICK.

  • @christopherjohnson275
    @christopherjohnson275 5 місяців тому +6

    Dude, what do you have to say about Houston? Hell, there are 2,000 kids in the portal. All programs have lost players. This is clickbait.

    • @Hatibaby445
      @Hatibaby445 5 місяців тому

      Only way these red neks get views 😂😂😂😂 talking about prime

    • @JoshPateCFB
      @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому +4

      There’s literally no other program even comparable to the situation Colorado is in. - JP

    • @christopherjohnson275
      @christopherjohnson275 5 місяців тому +2

      Are we talking about this year or last? What are you talking about, man? Houston lost 20-plus in one day this year, not last year. Colorado lost players with little to no actual production. They have players who haven't even made it to campus yet. They only had three scholarships available, so they actually needed the exits to attack the portal the way they needed to.
      No disrespect, but you need to do your homework or simply call someone involved with the program. But hey, everything on the Internet is true.

    • @JoshPateCFB
      @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому +1

      @@christopherjohnson275 you either didn’t watch the video or didn’t listen.

  • @easezwilliams345
    @easezwilliams345 5 місяців тому +6

    What did any players last yr do on they new teams?

    • @a.k.446
      @a.k.446 5 місяців тому +1

      Great question

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому

      You mean all the CU players that were pushed out? Probably not much. But then again what did they do before, not much? This year is a totally different story. The players leaving arent "Scrubs" from the previous coaching staff. They are players who played major minutes and highly rated recruits and who Deion brought in. CU will be decimated in 2-3 years and worse off than when deion got there. This will get ugly.

    • @easezwilliams345
      @easezwilliams345 5 місяців тому

      @@RCJH2022 alto is the only player that left that had success before

    • @a.k.446
      @a.k.446 5 місяців тому +2

      @RCHJ2022 they played major minutes for who? How are you pushed out before the staff gets settled in good?

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +1

      @@a.k.446 You are asking what all the players who left LAST YEAR did on their new teams? I'm saying "not much" because they were all low rank recruits from a 1-11 Cu team. And pushed out the moment sanders stepped in the locker room and addressed the team for the first time. But now you have 17 players who prime recruited and are leaving after 9 months. Not good.

  • @blakenagy8399
    @blakenagy8399 5 місяців тому +2

    Keeping kids for 3 and 4 years in the age of nil is easier said than done

    • @bladegerm
      @bladegerm 5 місяців тому

      its not NIL because these million-dollar companies are not in the business of just handing out money to unproven prospects. Its the bag from boosters that paying kids like Cormani $25k per month

  • @johnpickett8743
    @johnpickett8743 5 місяців тому +2

    The 3 and 4 year model of development is gone now. These kids are leaving now. Deions model is TBD because we don’t have enough data to support your opinion as fact.

  • @mathenoHowellBey
    @mathenoHowellBey 5 місяців тому +2

    This is a long over drawn apples to oranges convo. Colorado was at the bottom from a talent perspective. YOU CANT OVERHAUL A ROSTER FROM THE BOTTOM WITH FRESHMEN. You talking heads talk just to talk. You have to replace upper class men with grown men not 18 year olds sir, and 18 year olds don’t wanna come to your school unless you are WINNING. The next phase with a foundation you will see more high schoolers. At this point he’s looking at quality from highschool and using scholarships for grown men with achievement and experience. Talking just for clicks

  • @misterb1080
    @misterb1080 5 місяців тому +1

    The naysayers will say you’re wrong but I agree with you. There will some team that eventually go deep into the playoffs and maybe win a natty that relied heavily on portal. But one word you mentioned “consistently” will prove the portal to be a quick fix only.

    • @Mrfreshtake
      @Mrfreshtake 4 місяці тому

      Yep like Florida State last year who brought in 21. Its not populate to talk about the because FSU doesn't make headlines. Just like Bama lost 35 players to the transfer portal. Not good for media though.

  • @JAaronMattox
    @JAaronMattox 5 місяців тому +15

    His philosophy for building a program probably is actually built around recruiting; he just might not have much interest in building Colorado up long term

    • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      @MichaelBrown-ti1un 5 місяців тому +5

      He's def not fully invested in Colorado long term. Deion's tryna run up a bag 💰. If that happens thru winning and using Colorado as a stepping stone to a bigger, better program -- cool. If not, endorsements, brand deals and selling books, all the while not winning, works too. Either way, Deion's leaving Colorado a richer man. Will he be a better, more accomplished coach when he eventually hits the exits? Probably not.

    • @dadwithavlog5268
      @dadwithavlog5268 5 місяців тому +4

      Then he has no integrity. If you’re not going to give it your best, then you shouldn’t be there.

    • @stephenmillertime
      @stephenmillertime 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@MichaelBrown-ti1unYou can't use Colorado as a stepping stone to a "bigger school" when you are creating drama, losing players, and not winning.

    • @machiavellisprince5986
      @machiavellisprince5986 5 місяців тому +1

      It’s not that he’s uninterested in building it up long-term. It’s that in order to build it up long-term they have to WIN! NOW!
      I feel like I’m in the twilight zone that people can’t understand this. He can’t get great high school recruits to come to a losing program. They have to win or it’s over.

    • @dadwithavlog5268
      @dadwithavlog5268 5 місяців тому

      @@machiavellisprince5986 that is ridiculous! He benefitted from an extreme amount of good media coverage since he took over at CU. When CU won a few games, he benefited from an extreme amount of coverage, celebrity appearances etc. He is NOT interested in recruiting hard. Notice how he said “I trust my recruiting team.” Which is to say he doesn’t go out and get in living rooms. He thinks that high school kids should just show up at his door. 🤣 The HC is the closer. If the HC is not looking parents in the eye and in their living room, why in the hell should they send their kid to play for him? Everybody has NIL in P5, CU gets a lot of undeserved national attention since Deion arrived. He failed to capitalize on that. And that’s on him. I can’t believe I have to explain it to you Sanders apologists. It’s like you guys are in a cult. He can do no wrong. Well, he’s a lazy recruiter. And he’s not building a foundation for long term success at CU.

  • @kofirey6752
    @kofirey6752 5 місяців тому +1

    COLORADO HAS PUT TOGETHER A MACHINE 💯
    COLORADO WILL BE JUST FINE 💯

  • @solacenmute4840
    @solacenmute4840 5 місяців тому +1

    I agree with Josh but if Colorado wins 8 to 10 games next year and Travis and Sheduer go early first round Colorado recruiting will go crazy. The biggest mistake the ncaa can make is to let Deion Sanders get proof of concept even last year if they just knew how to finish games they could have won 8+ games. In sports there is always something that comes along that can change the sport forever and all thats needed is proof of concept and then the huge explosion happens.

    • @Hatibaby445
      @Hatibaby445 5 місяців тому

      Lmao that’s what the white folks scared of they know if Deion have a good season or make the playoffs they whole fbs in trouble 😂

    • @solacenmute4840
      @solacenmute4840 5 місяців тому +1

      @@nicholastaiariol2631 So you are not here to talk Football just here to be a hater. They were competitive in most of their games in a stacked conference with a team that was put together on the fly casuals like you who don't actually talk football who just follow to hate are a disease to the sports world.

  • @machiavellisprince5986
    @machiavellisprince5986 4 місяці тому

    There was not a LOT of people who said they could win the Pac 12. There were a lot of people who focused on a handful of people who thought they could win the Pac 12. Nameless people on social media.

  • @lawrencerbe2661
    @lawrencerbe2661 5 місяців тому +3

    CP is attempting to change status quo. We shall see if it works or not

  • @bods4dadsaquil912
    @bods4dadsaquil912 5 місяців тому

    I believe that as well gotta have a foundation first I totally agree

  • @olivercroomes8223
    @olivercroomes8223 5 місяців тому

    I disagree with you opinion on the portal. The portal has not been around long enough to say you can't build a Winning team. Let's give it another 5 to 8 years...

  • @LaytonFreeze
    @LaytonFreeze 5 місяців тому

    The Portal hasn't been around long enough to be so dogmatic about what you can't do with it. This is nothing more than a purest mentality that can't see beyond yesterday. "You can't do this. You must do that." Imagine the world today if the Wright Brothers had that mentality. Let's give the portal a larger sample size of time, before we say what can and cannot be.

  • @MrLee4love
    @MrLee4love 5 місяців тому +3

    Stop the craziness! It’s 130 other schools who have guys jumping in the TP

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +3

      the other 130 schools average 2.5 players leaving per year. Colorado is at 17 *THIS WEEK!*

    • @dragonsurge1
      @dragonsurge1 5 місяців тому +1

      Colorado has had the MOST guys transfer both in and out so far

    • @205BeezyB
      @205BeezyB 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah having 17 players leave your program IN THE SPRING. Is a huge red flag. Coming out of highschool if I see that I’m not even entertaining your program.

    • @biingolewis7824
      @biingolewis7824 5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Ppl be ridin PRIME way too much.

    • @205BeezyB
      @205BeezyB 5 місяців тому

      @@biingolewis7824 yeah because he’s 🦝 of the decade

  • @kimberly4351
    @kimberly4351 5 місяців тому +8

    Don't Houston have 26 players in the portal? But all I see is praises about how the HC is trying to change the culture and how it will take time but it's gonna come together. He is per say "weeding" out the players that don't value academics over football. Yet, it's very little conversation on their mass exodus . I wonder what the difference is between him & Prime kinda, make u you go HMMMMM!!!

    • @younggoose7315
      @younggoose7315 5 місяців тому +2

      Where do you see praise

    • @kimberly4351
      @kimberly4351 5 місяців тому

      @@younggoose7315 So do you expect me to share my screen with you? Like what kinda question is that? But for kicks you can start with Rico Knows..

    • @babylon_system
      @babylon_system 5 місяців тому +1

      The difference is Willie Fritz is actually a very accomplished head football coach that has built programs.

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +3

      New head coach. That's still only 1/3 of what Deion ran off last year. Dana Holgorsen was a joke at that program, Willie Fritz is seriously accomplished and has proven he knows what he's doing. Deion thinks he knows what he's doing, Acts like he knows what he's doing, Tells everyone he knows what he's doing, but anyone who try's to help or brim him back to reality is a "Hater" and prime try's to discredit anyone by trying to flex his on the field accomplishments. He is about to get a HUGE dose of humble pie.

  • @sstewart44
    @sstewart44 5 місяців тому +16

    The way he recruits is getting kids starstruck, and once that wears off they realize he can't coach and then transfer
    first chance they get!

    • @walterdockins8475
      @walterdockins8475 5 місяців тому +1

      ~130 on the roster and more commits coming between now and the Fall. Of those about 15 are in the portal now and in all of the positions there are equal or better players still on the roster. Make your comment make sense.

    • @michaelsmith-ws2mb
      @michaelsmith-ws2mb 5 місяців тому

      5-7 at best, and they will lose the first game to ndsu

  • @hollywood2606
    @hollywood2606 5 місяців тому +7

    Who cares what Deion strategy is when last time Kansas state won national championship or competed for one or Utah or Kansas or Texas tech and so on . They been doing it your way JOSH for past 25 years and what they have to show for it nothing. So I wish you guys would stop thinking your way is the only way..

    • @wesleydepriest8579
      @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому +1

      Utah was close on 08/09 finishing number 2 in the nation , 07 the jayhawks rose up to number 2 nationally at one point , 08 for Texas tech as well , they finished 12th that year plus beat a good longhorn team

    • @wesleydepriest8579
      @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому +2

      The buffs have had two winning seasons in 20 yrs 🤷🏻‍♂️ I'm a life long cu fan so I'm not hating , they have been garbage since Barnett got fired

    • @JasonBlair-j5q
      @JasonBlair-j5q 5 місяців тому +2

      Utah??? Bad example. They are the perfect example of development and sustained success. 🤣

    • @waynemorgan2792
      @waynemorgan2792 5 місяців тому

      @@wesleydepriest8579 realise you just proved his point !?!? Utah 08/09 = 14/15 years ago Kansas 07 = 17 years ago Texas Tech 08 16 years ago

    • @wesleydepriest8579
      @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому

      @@waynemorgan2792
      I answered his question, even so that is still more recent and better than my buffs 🤷🏻‍♂️ if it could only be 88/89/90 again , coach Mac was the truth

  • @SuperMogul
    @SuperMogul 5 місяців тому +2

    It's always my beliefs and what they think. Like the Rock would say, nobody cares what you think. This model hasn't been proven, because it hasn't been done before. Just like NIL, people like this guy are scared of change.

  • @cmortonwvu
    @cmortonwvu 5 місяців тому

    Probably going to struggle 2nd half of the season. This opinion is without looking at their schedule. Colorado will have a decent team, lots of flash and playmakers but theyre thin at many positions. Once injuries start, season will get tougher.

  • @jimmysweat2200
    @jimmysweat2200 4 місяці тому

    Trust the process
    Let's go

  • @Bob-gi9nt
    @Bob-gi9nt 5 місяців тому +1

    I really hope you are wrong. If anyone can prove you and all the rest wrong it's Deion. And I would be disappointed if Deion was talking about just making a bowl game.

  • @AdrenalineJunkie25
    @AdrenalineJunkie25 5 місяців тому +5

    These show’s Can’t go a month without talking about Colorado and Deon .Clicks click’s clicks

    • @JAaronMattox
      @JAaronMattox 5 місяців тому +6

      First of all it would be malpractice for a college football show to not talk about the things the audience is interested in. Second - a month? This guy does multiple shows a week, there are probably 30 schools he talks about at least once a month

    • @AdrenalineJunkie25
      @AdrenalineJunkie25 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JAaronMattox cry more

    • @JAaronMattox
      @JAaronMattox 5 місяців тому +2

      @@AdrenalineJunkie25 Cry less. You’re crying about a college football show talking about a college football team once a month, it’s embarrassing

    • @JoshPateCFB
      @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому +4

      I’ve literally gone months without talking Deion. Go find the last Deion/Colorado video I posted on this channel. - JP

  • @Anderson100.
    @Anderson100. 5 місяців тому +3

    With the portal being so new you have no fact based opinion to say what you can’t do with portal players your just making assumptions based on your knowledge of the old college football way

    • @dragonsurge1
      @dragonsurge1 5 місяців тому

      People don’t usually enter the portal because they were doing so well at their first school…it’s always a risk

    • @Anderson100.
      @Anderson100. 5 місяців тому

      @@dragonsurge1 That is another assumption with no real facts behind it. Your forgetting about the great players who had amazing personal performances with out team success so they jumped in the portal looking to contribute to a winning team

    • @dragonsurge1
      @dragonsurge1 5 місяців тому

      @@Anderson100. there are facts behind It but yes you’re right there are also the good players that want to join a better team. Look at the players transferring to Colorado though and you’ll which category they fall into

  • @blakjak4dappl394
    @blakjak4dappl394 5 місяців тому

    They will be fine. Everybody's losing players to the portal everyday. No panic buttons are being pushed for those programs. And most of those players that hit the gulag are just going to sit there.

  • @jbaru648
    @jbaru648 5 місяців тому

    He’s not losing main players, he’s just losing some back ups

  • @rzawistowski33
    @rzawistowski33 5 місяців тому +1

    Georgia has 23 guys in the portal, guys that know they ain't playing leave. Colorado does need to up its high school recruiting tho

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +1

      That's the 2 problems with CU. The guys on their way out of CU were getting snaps. And CU REALLY needs HS players. They don't need to be 4 and 5 Star Either. If they added 7-10 2 star guys who are going to be around 4-5 years to go along with their 6 HS recruits that still goes a long way.

  • @reddirtfury1784
    @reddirtfury1784 5 місяців тому

    Deion is building a team and repacing talent. He brings them in see what they have then either keeps them of lets them go. He’s building: he’s team is night and day from his very first roster. I know exactly what he’s doing. It’s season by season. He won’t keep paying you if you arnt it. He will replace you.

  • @Todd_B639
    @Todd_B639 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, Demouey Kennedy is seeing the grass isn't always greener, lol. In the portal, yet again

  • @25darkalchemist
    @25darkalchemist 5 місяців тому +1

    Can coaches, athletes, and athlete's parents publicly airing out the dirty laundry work? No sir. That culture is a double edged sword. You never have to guess, but some things the public just doesn't need to know.

  • @williamdixon4234
    @williamdixon4234 5 місяців тому

    Josh if that style is how you win why it wasn't working for Colorado for the last decade? This is a new day in football they're not waiting on you to win 4 and 5 years from now they want to win now.

  • @lukebart920
    @lukebart920 5 місяців тому +1

    Big 12 u can lose every game or win every game by a touchdown. Btw, Let's goo Wvu. Neal Brown has culture back in Morgantown, finally.

  • @robertvose7310
    @robertvose7310 5 місяців тому

    @josh you really pissed off USC fans. That said, I hope we are a top 40 defense.....

  • @rayshunterrell1417
    @rayshunterrell1417 5 місяців тому +3

    Quite the perspective. Especially coming from people completely void of culture and how to build one. I’m itching to know how YOU would establish a working culture in your first few years let alone a winning one. But save it I’ll answer for you.
    Firstly, you have to establish a standard. How can you build rapport with high schools unproven? The standard of excellence has to be at the forefront of ANY culture and that didn’t exist prior. Next you need competition. You can have all the 5 freshman you want but it means nothing if the locker room is weak. You won’t hit the field and win and you won’t develop them in time to produce meaningful results. And lastly you need an image. How on earth do you convince a kid with limitless possibilities and potential to arrive at fricken boulder… they took 80 new players hit the field and won. Thats development. New coaches everyday, each with more relatability and higher standards. This bar and image that’s set is what will make a kid go to a team. Knowing that they can fight for a spot in a vicious culture for a chance to shine and reach the next level. Yes, as adults we want reasonable and logical. No, kids don’t want that shit. And kids weren’t going to no damn Colorado. His usage of the portal is correct in establishing the bar he’s trying to set. He will grab those diamonds in the rough. He will polish them. And prove that his establishment is capable of getting you to the NFL. It takes 1. Win or lose they will come after that.

    • @babylon_system
      @babylon_system 5 місяців тому

      Shut up

    • @Fluffylife420
      @Fluffylife420 4 місяці тому

      I love your humor.

    • @rayshunterrell1417
      @rayshunterrell1417 4 місяці тому

      @@Fluffylife420 answer the question

    • @Fluffylife420
      @Fluffylife420 4 місяці тому +1

      @@rayshunterrell1417 I’m just trolling….you know, like someone else we know 👀

    • @rayshunterrell1417
      @rayshunterrell1417 4 місяці тому

      @@Fluffylife420 😂. But this is my point. Report the facts. Some people use this information to bet. To distort the facts due to a personal bias is an abuse of the platform. Deon sucks enough as is. We don’t need the extra herbs and spices from the peanut gallery making it hateful.

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason2674 5 місяців тому

    I dont dislike Deion, i just think Colorado is a really dificult place to recruit. Its beautiful there in the summer but it is in the middle of nowhere.

  • @RCJH2022
    @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +1

    The portal strategy *WILL NOT WORK* At some point they will have serious roster number issues. Charile Weis tried that at Kansas (2.5 years after KU was 12-1 and orange bowl winners) when he turned over the roster and went heavy with "Experienced" JUCO, 5th year sr players and Transfers. TOTAL DISASTER. It backloaded the roster and after 3 years it was totally depleted. Took KU 7 years to get their roster back to 80 scholarship players. Sanders sold out for a couple years of sold out spring games and hype but ultimately in 3 years CU is going to be *EVEN WORSE* than when he got there.

  • @HumanBeanbag
    @HumanBeanbag 5 місяців тому

    Football can't get here fast enough 😂

  • @AfterTheGame
    @AfterTheGame 5 місяців тому +4

    BREAKING: Colorado EDGE Eric Brantley Jr. is expected to enter the NCAA Transfer Portal

    • @C_71
      @C_71 5 місяців тому +5

      Who?

    • @babygamble
      @babygamble 5 місяців тому +2

      @@C_71hes a freshman 😭🤣

  • @rayshunterrell1417
    @rayshunterrell1417 5 місяців тому +1

    Y’all talking like y’all know or understand the plan. Who said he was doing this for longevity? Who said he was doing this as a permanent solution? For such limited information y’all surely do know how to run with your own head canon. @patestate you yourself said that when colleges pay a huge pile of money that they’d expect to start winning right away. How dare you demonize his portal usage as if you forgot the situation he’s in as a whole. Hypocrisy. I want to hear your approach. You got 1 year. 87 new player, some injuries, completely new staff, and a Colorado level program… by the second year give me your plan to be a bowl team….. explain your usage of freshman from the high school ranks. Explain your resources going to raw talent and not wisdom from the portal. Now go win. Explain it to me

  • @curtissahadath3202
    @curtissahadath3202 5 місяців тому

    With that that is not UNDERSTOOD You CRITICISE
    Nice plan?

  • @jameljoyner5008
    @jameljoyner5008 5 місяців тому +1

    Why is everyone so concerned about Prime and Colorado? Bunch of clowns with malice in your hearts!

  • @keyodi
    @keyodi 5 місяців тому +2

    Houston has 26 kids in the transfer portal (crickets)

    • @RCJH2022
      @RCJH2022 5 місяців тому +2

      New coach. Still not even 1/3rd of the number of players that Prime ran off in his first year. If willie Fritz has 17 players leave next year hit me up.

  • @isaacford7172
    @isaacford7172 5 місяців тому

    Just stick around wait and see what coach prime, and the Colorado football team do for this season. He gonna make you eat your words he will make the playoff with his team and then you going to move the gold pole and that’s when you going to say he cannot win a championship using the Porter

  • @Mrfreshtake
    @Mrfreshtake 5 місяців тому +1

    Yall have zero logic. High school recruiting is null and void with the transfer portal. You all are just talking emotionally. Why not get a portal transfer player with three years or two years left. There is less of a learning curve than a high school student. Unequivocally you can build a team in the portal. It’s the same thing minus a year

    • @JoshPateCFB
      @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому

      High school recruiting is null and void? What does this even mean?

    • @Mrfreshtake
      @Mrfreshtake 5 місяців тому

      @@JoshPateCFB John. Don’t be a snark. You’re highly intelligent. You know my comment doesn’t mean obsolete. Problem with your commentary is that you vacillate too much. When CP started winning you go “Oh I was wrong”..”He starts losing you say”I told you so.” Pick a dern side! Problem is you all are talking about wins and losses too much. As an entrepreneur, I realize that if the Buffs win 2 games it won’t matter. They will remain the hottest ticket in town because of the narrative. The impact of his 4-9 team has been 113 million to the Boulder area economy. He has absolute job security because finances run this college football era. He leave Boulder returns to obscurity.

  • @rioclayton8347
    @rioclayton8347 5 місяців тому

    😂😂this is 😂😂😂genius all wise all knowing thank you for showing Colorado the way we are forever in your debt

  • @vernshumway5939
    @vernshumway5939 5 місяців тому

    Got to have depth and you need to be able to develop players. They will be middle of the pack BIG 12. Go Utes!

  • @qurhanhall4844
    @qurhanhall4844 5 місяців тому +4

    Primes gonna make Josh eats these words come bowl season!

    • @LeJoker8
      @LeJoker8 5 місяців тому +7

      He won’t even make a bowl game wth u talking about

    • @calebsanderson7299
      @calebsanderson7299 5 місяців тому +2

      Holy copium, name the 6 teams they are going to beat then 😂

    • @qurhanhall4844
      @qurhanhall4844 5 місяців тому

      @@JohnnySurfdawg If you've ever built anything from scratch you'd know it takes time to develop and harness. Its not rocket science.

    • @qurhanhall4844
      @qurhanhall4844 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@LeJoker8 If CU wins 8 games this year will you change your tune and applaud him or will you find another reason to hate on Prime?

    • @qurhanhall4844
      @qurhanhall4844 5 місяців тому +2

      @@calebsanderson7299 N Dakota, CSU, UCF, Nebraska, Baylor & Cincinnati. These are guaranteed wins! 🤷

  • @robertvose7310
    @robertvose7310 5 місяців тому

    I feel CU goes 5-6 wins.....

  • @PapaSphinx
    @PapaSphinx 5 місяців тому

    @cormanimcclain2 So let me get this straight you flip from Miami and sign with Colorado. Under Coach Prime he asks simple tasks of you like (study film, go to class, become a man) you fail at all of those. Then you hit the transfer portal and basically take subliminal shots at him then expect your NFL draft stock to rise after this? 😂 You must not know Coach Prime has life long connects in the Hall of Fame and NFL

  • @Whatsthe_dill
    @Whatsthe_dill 4 місяці тому

    Prime is leaving CU after this year for a sec team closer to home with deep NIL pockets watch

  • @DS-vt8kn
    @DS-vt8kn 5 місяців тому +3

    When all of Deion boys are gone then they will be able to built a roster.

  • @williamcorpuz9591
    @williamcorpuz9591 5 місяців тому

    Colorado will Win 3-5 games in 2024.

  • @wesleydepriest8579
    @wesleydepriest8579 5 місяців тому +3

    Its like the nfl , rarely does the team that wins free agency win a championship

    • @phillyutc
      @phillyutc 5 місяців тому +1

      Payton Manning - Denver Broncos?

    • @phillyutc
      @phillyutc 5 місяців тому

      @@nicholastaiariol2631 Ha ha ha.....I have lost count, wasn't there a Boo Radley on the roster back then?

  • @chrisgray2824
    @chrisgray2824 5 місяців тому +7

    Prime only cares about three players.....2, 21, and 12

    • @C_71
      @C_71 5 місяців тому +2

      You missed about a whole lot of players, athletic trainers, media members, and coaches with this statement!

  • @fredball8240
    @fredball8240 5 місяців тому

    So...CU will be 4-8 again

  • @joshlogan8853
    @joshlogan8853 5 місяців тому +2

    Stop the hate

  • @PhonyBalagna
    @PhonyBalagna 5 місяців тому +4

    Colorado is a bad program with or without Deon

  • @blairsession9729
    @blairsession9729 5 місяців тому +1

    Deion said the same thing last season when guys were leaving... You see how that went 😂

  • @JayzeMayhem
    @JayzeMayhem 5 місяців тому +1

    Bruh nobody talking bout the transfers he getting tho he getting sophomores and juniors n have 11 high school recruits in April y’all jus wanna hate CU not the only school doing this jus say you don’t like Deion we will be a bowl team this year

  • @xantanatravels23
    @xantanatravels23 5 місяців тому

    They have no offense and defensive line. They will be 3-9..

  • @wesleyspruce1626
    @wesleyspruce1626 5 місяців тому +1

    No

  • @SpankMapleton
    @SpankMapleton 5 місяців тому

    the strategy is to prop up his sons as much as he can then leave as soon as they are in the nfl

  • @PayyDayy706
    @PayyDayy706 5 місяців тому +6

    EVERYONE knows Deion is leaving Colorado when his sons do. That's why he refuses to recruit. If you were planning to stay, why would you set your team up for failure every year? Colorado doesn't care about winning, its about generating money for his sons.

    • @a.k.446
      @a.k.446 5 місяців тому +2

      Your hope is that he will leave. When did he refuse to recruit?

    • @Hatibaby445
      @Hatibaby445 5 місяців тому

      Lmao everybody or prime haters and white folke

  • @DSBull
    @DSBull 5 місяців тому

    That's not true. He lost potential 2 or 3 good players.

  • @BallisticBevo
    @BallisticBevo 5 місяців тому +2

    He is in the portal. Because he can't convince top high school recruits, their coaches, and parents. To buy into the coaching we watched out of Colorado last year.

  • @chriscrocker6783
    @chriscrocker6783 2 місяці тому

    It's sad that people still believe in Santa Claus per say. Recruiting is the life blood of college football. Anyone want to take a guess at Colorado's recruiting class rank? #68. No team ever will win the college football playoff with 2-3 stars. They are not going to outbid anyone for recruits. That's just fact. Sure Colorado fans needed a boost and something to feel good about you got it. Just realize what reality is. Deion will bail, it's what he's always done. It's the only track record he has

  • @PrimeTime399
    @PrimeTime399 5 місяців тому +2

    Colorado winning big 12

  • @freeheeler00
    @freeheeler00 5 місяців тому +1

    They're not even talking about playoffs. All I hear from Colorado is which NFL teams Coach Sanders is going to let draft his kids.

  • @melroze
    @melroze 5 місяців тому +3

    Deion was never going to be a long term solution for Colorado. He's just a brief flash.

    • @C_71
      @C_71 5 місяців тому

      How many players did Bama lose🤔⁉️ How many teams whose coach was handed everything did NOT lose 20 plus players and multiple 4 - and 5-star players! How many top 5 teams fisher bring in transfer players? How many teams didn't lose freshman recruiting? At least 5 of the top players in the country spent 9 months at a school and hit the portal... make these dumb comments make sense! YOU said he's leaving, are you Deion?

    • @codyb.3015
      @codyb.3015 5 місяців тому

      @@C_71 Why are you comparing a team that won 4 games last year with Alabama? Alabama earned the benefit of the doubt, believing in Colorado right now is believing something that has never happened will happen.
      Alabama will obviously be better than Colorado, and I hate Alabama but ofc they will be, it's delusional to suggest otherwise.

  • @georgebrown8158
    @georgebrown8158 5 місяців тому +2

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE U....

  • @rayhughes3243
    @rayhughes3243 5 місяців тому

    Deion was a great player, one of the best of all time! He has not spent the time to learn how to be a major college coach. He needs to be a little more humble and learn how to deal with players! It's a big difference between people and players. He won't win anything in major college football until he adapts ! Good luck prime time.

  • @jackdeez3290
    @jackdeez3290 5 місяців тому

    Deion is all about himself . He overshadows any players that’s why he’ll never succeed as a coach. He just wants some fame before he burns out. He’s irrelevant and he doesn’t know it yet .

  • @timmyteaching
    @timmyteaching 5 місяців тому

    Gotta 'cruit and Deion is no a fan of that.

  • @peteruwaifo9655
    @peteruwaifo9655 5 місяців тому +1

    Please stick to YouTubing, if you know as much as you claim, go be a coach…

    • @JoshPateCFB
      @JoshPateCFB  5 місяців тому

      How much did I claim I know?

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 5 місяців тому

      what? lol...

    • @peteruwaifo9655
      @peteruwaifo9655 5 місяців тому

      It’s easy to watch and critique, you know a lot about how this stuff goes, your words, I’d love to watch you work the talk… but don’t quit your days job… keep talking trash!

  • @calebsanderson7299
    @calebsanderson7299 5 місяців тому +1

    Deion is leaving after his sons move on to the NFL

  • @blazzedbunny3243
    @blazzedbunny3243 5 місяців тому

    Not serious football program. It’s a joke.

  • @Alan-n6u8b
    @Alan-n6u8b 5 місяців тому

    Im gonna be honest as a Longhorn fan I can’t wait for the SEC this year but I’m more looking forward to trolling the Colorado Thug boys. I think it’s absolutely Hilarious. Time to go back to HBCU Deion Thug Sanders.

  • @StankPapii
    @StankPapii 5 місяців тому

    He’s trying to set his sons up for the NFL and win now. He’s not going to recruit and develop when he only has a small window to coach his sons and be successful

  • @jamesfountain6183
    @jamesfountain6183 5 місяців тому

    Colorado will be trash again. Deion only cares about himself

  • @doubleboy2388
    @doubleboy2388 5 місяців тому

    Ive said it since the day Deion got hired. He will fail out there. It's one thing to win a no name school like Jackson State. Its another to win at a power program. He will be run out of town within a few years. Lots of Ls coming

  • @polar6887
    @polar6887 5 місяців тому +3

    Colorado will not win a championship n I love Deion

    • @aferg76
      @aferg76 5 місяців тому +1

      Their goal is to get to a bowl game not win a Championship

    • @polar6887
      @polar6887 5 місяців тому

      Everybody goal in college football is too win da national championship