How to Get Cheap Minis for D&D & Pathfinder in 2021!
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2021
- In episode #180, Professor DungeonMaster reveals how he procured nearly 100 high-quality miniatures for only $100.
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3D printing is a trap. Since opening that door, I print them faster than I can paint them... The addiction is real.
Welcome to the dark side.....
I can never seem to get quality prints for long enough. Glad most Patreons offer pre-supported these days.
I agree. I already had a huge pile of shame and it just keeps getting larger and larger...
Professor DM did a special on here on speed painting an entire army that may help.
I have an FDM and work from home so I will start a print in the morning and usually by the end of the day they are done
A recommendation for those looking to 3d print minis with a resin printer. Use resins that cure as "flexible", it makes a ton of difference. You can manhandle flexible minis way easier than hard, brittle ones.
This. A buddy sent me a resin printed object and it arrived broken in a half dozen pieces. Then I dropped part of it from about 2 feet and that piece broke.
Working with plastic, the type of plastic makes ALL the difference. I have a figure made with a harder resin and it won't bust.
@@jorgedasilva7665 im curious about this resin. I use regular old Anycubic or Elegoo and the minis are quite delicate. Def not up to the professors durability standards.
@@SinisterGamingTabletop I can't remember what resin it was that was used. Our engineer made it for me years back and he and his 3D printer are both gone. Of course the resin was tough enough that I had to chip away at the supports and such that were on it. So there are trade-offs.
@@SinisterGamingTabletop - Best bet would be asking around on 3D printing subreddits. I'm pretty sure there's one specifically about printing minis. Lots of people will mix standard resins with flex resins to get something with the right balance. I'm sure they'd be happy to give you an idea on where to start.
This video completely exceeded my expectations. I had no idea that so much was available. I learned a lot watching this, and I'm a bit of a miniature collector and figure painter, so I thought I knew most everything in the field.
Thank you. My patrons made lots of suggestions.
Never call yourself cheap, always say “frugal”...
Economic budget management
Competitive
"Financially aware."
Value-oriented
A rose by any other name, still smells the same.
Cheap, doesn't always mean poor quality.
the painting tip toward the end makes this video easily one of the best mini tutorials i hve watched so far
Thank you for all the great work! I set out a few months ago to become a better dnd player and to get the creative juices flowing for my own games (*cough* steal some ideas). Listening to podcasts and watching other youtube channels Dungeon Craft is hands down my favorite. Thanks again.
I’ve literally bought all 3 games you e recommended and all I can say is how amazing the minis look and now have months of painting ahead due to an impossible work schedule thanks Professor
Love the energy, super informative, that's what we come for!
I just ordered the Hate boardgame! Thanks for the update Professor!
Favorite video so far, love what you do Professor.
Thanks for the recommendations, these sets of minis look really good and at decent prices. Now all I have to do is order these and find some time off work to actually paint them. Thanks!
I second (and third!) the Reaper love. They’re cheaper on Gnomish Bazaar than anywhere else and their shipping is freaky fast.
I also recommend GnomishBazaar. I've ordered from them several times and it is shipped usually the next day and gets to my house within the week. Super freaky fast, much lower prices than MiniatureMarket or any game store. The customer support is helpful as well. I accidentally put a pre-order in one of my orders that I wanted as quick as possible and after one email he removed the pre-order and had the rest of the minis in the mail the next day.
Awesome sourcing material for miniatures, almost wish I could start over. Thanks for the content. Always nice to see you Deathbringer, always worried I wont see the professor this week because, 'Something happened to him' when you are around. Cookie for the metric
"Can you believe I painted this mini in 5 minutes?"... yes, yes I can.
Basic primer coat in the prevalent color the minifig will be, then wash with appropriate tones and add drybrushing highlights FTW. Anything beyond that will just be gravy lol.
Oh! Great Idea! Next time I will also go to the cemetary to get flowers. :-D
You'll get no complaints
also Teddy bears
Bad Karma. 👻
Great idea. Dress as a clown and wave to people passing by! It will really creep them out and it will be funny at the same time. Also, nobody will care if you take flowers at that point. I love the movie IT!
Magic the Gathering Arena of the Planeswalkers is an excellent way to bulk up your collection. I got one of the box sets for $10. It came with 30 single colored miniatures and 5 painted "planeswalkers".
Great video and much needed. 😊 I personally got collection of a few hundred minis that I print and laminate. 250 minis can easily fit into a single binder. Size varies from rats to an ancient red dragon. Get some paper clips and you will be up and running in no time. I do adore plastic minis though, it's more a convenience thing.
100% agree with your choice of the Hate board game. I have it and use it in my D and D campaign as well . Amazing miniatures! another great video professor , keep them coming.
I opened so many tabs while watching this trying to keep up XD
Thanks for doing this, it's not super clear where to get minis especially on patreon or KS when you have no clue what you are looking for!
Great recommendations, thanks! I especially love that monochromatic look - it smacks of Frank Miller!
A lot of the sources you mentioned were things I used in my tavern box terrain. (I also used some of your techniques for the floor and stone work.) I didn't know about Hate, and now I totally want to buy it and run a grim dark war campaign! Also, Nuln Oil is just... ...magic!
Thanks for the great info.
I want to create my own UDT after seeing how well it works for you.
The terrain packs, zombies and minis in general are where I struggled.
I have none so I will keep this list in mind!
Oh, and say hi to death-bringer for me.
I apologize if this gets long. First great video, as always. As a once upon a time WH Fantasy/40k player I have been pretty uptight about detail and painting quality and I can compete with my painted work without being embarrassed. Anymore however I'm right with you. Hand picking minis out of shape cut foam using gloved hands is for the birds. Pretty enough and durable enough is the way to go.
On the topic of 3D printing. I'm running an Ender 3 (pro) and not anything resin. This only really works if you are starting out but I find that upping the scale to anything where your miniature will be 45-50mm tall will give enough detail to keep me happy. If you go all the way to 56mm it simply doubles every measure in D&D however it creates a miniature that in hand feels pretty satisfying. I printed a couple dozen (files from Patreon) goblin, orc, ogre and adventurers for a friends son to simply play with at what would be 42mm scale and they were amazing. PLA+ is generally sturdy but not brittle. There are groups out there that do specifically sculpt mini's to be printed using this type of printer. Resin minis are beautiful but are also brittle and I have had the same issues with that same torch from Etsy sellers.Some Patreon's I would recommend but you did not mention www.patreon.com/ArtisanGuild/posts
www.patreon.com/ArchvillainGames/posts
www.patreon.com/vhminiatures/posts
An interesting thing about AV is that along with the month's themed mini set you can back at a level where you get a premade that will use those monsters and terrain. All three of the above eventually move their monthly backer files to My Mini Factory so you can try a couple before supporting (although at $10 a month I would just back one month and get the files.) Even AV's module is available on MMF.
Awesome! Gonna have several paint partys comming up!
Can’t wait for the 2022 version of this video!
Awesome content as usual!
Awesome! This makes me want to pull out my Warhammer mini's and start painting them again. Still in a box in the attic after moving though.
Thanks for the tips! I'm buying minis for my 1st campaign in years. Pretty sure I'm buying Hate now.
For low fantasy plastic minis I'll recommend the sets from North Star Miniatures; they do a bunch of different sets for Frost Grave, Ghost Archipelago, and Oathmark. They cover humans, dwarves, elves, and goblins, thus far. The best bit is that you can kitbash your own characters using bits from across the range. You generally get enough bits in a box to make around 20-30 minis (along with a load of options for weapons) for around £1 per mini. They also make metal "hero" minis too for those who like that sort of thing.
That paint job on the HATE!!!!!!!!! mini is great. I really should dig out my copy and give it a go; all I need to do is wait until the end of the Lockdown, so I can filch someone's tooth brush.
Northstar is really great. Very easy to combine parts from many of their plastic kits as well.
Song of Ice and Fire minis are great for low fantasy too. They mix well with the HATE minis and other CMON figures.
@@catoblepasomega I have the Frostgrave Cultists, female warriors, gnolls, and snakemen. Looking forward to the Demons. These are a bargain!
This deserves more upvotes, their figures really are an incredible bargain and the more sprues you buy (and there are secondary sellers doing individual sprues now) the more assembly options you have due to everything being so modular. And if you wait a little bit, they'll have scifi humans and aliens coming for Stargrave as well, so even more options on the way.
Now there's STARGRAVE, it's the sci-fi version, and should be on their site for (hopefully) April, on the 'net there are some pictures of these plastic minis, seems good.
Fantasy Flights Runewars the miniatures game has some pretty awesome miniatures. and they're cheap too. The game was discontinued, so grab it while you can!
I bought some of their Fleshripper and elf infantry minis.
You can get the basic set of human spearmen, human cavalry. Undead melee guys, undead archers, and some golems and undead work riders for under $40 for 48 minis. The add one are $20-30 a set. 👻
A game store by me has the base set, i may get it if they drop the price 5 or 10 bucks
Well done Professor, thank you for sharing!
Buying any good game that comes with mini's is always a good choice. I tend to just reskin a lot of my enemy stat blocks to fit the image of the minis I am wanting to use for an encounter. Shadows of Brimstone and all its sets just adds a lot of minis and by itself is a nice fun game to run when you do not feel like DM'ing but everyone still wants to get together and play something.
I know resin is the way for minis, but being curious I printed an orc mini on my cr10s and it turned out pretty amazing. Good vid!
Maximum content! Great episode.
Great tips. Also, an excellent point about waiting for kickstarters to fulfill. I am waiting on the Blacklist Games miniatures to come in. 200 minis for $65. But they are late due to the pandemic and shipping issues from China.
Keep up the great tips, tricks, and creating videos Prof.!
@The Makeshop I stumbled upon this late pledge for Series 2 that is still active as of today. I'm on the fence:
1. I love getting a full working game with my pile of minis which is why I've purchased D&D boardgame and Massive Darkness 2 Kickstarter;
2. I do love how the Series 1 and Series 2 from Blacklist/Last Tales Game are more generic like spiders, mummy's, kobolds, orcs, etc.
This is the reason I look at it every day and say to myself, "Is today the day I dump a couple hundred dollars to get 400 minis for ~50-cents each?
15mm miniatures are cheap, take up less space on the table and they’re quick to paint. The paint is less likely chip too, as the lesser mass and shorter height means less force involved when you knock over or drop them.
Love that monochromatic look. I’ve been leaning that way lately, with so many minis to paint and too little time.
I need to start doing that with my horde of board games with unpainted minis. When I look at how many boxes are on my shelves, yet to be painted, I despair and go do something else. Knowing how much time it would take to paint even a few sets at my normal pace.
@@NefariousKoel I did a bunch using just a dark gray primer, a black wash and a light gray dry brush. They look cool and it's very fast. PDMs version with metallic and flesh tone looks way better. I'm going to try it on my next batch.
@@edwardromero3580 - Yeah, I'd probably do something similar to your method. Perhaps adding an extra off-color in just a few spots and/or a metallic on their weapon.
Outstanding review
Resin printing is not that much of a hassle, i was worried first as well, smell, toxicity, curing, cleaning the printer - turned out that after a week, it was a non issue, couldn’t live without one now. Need a specific monster next weekend? Done in 3 hours, let’s paint it. I use elegoo mars “abs like resin”, great quality.
Your favorite mini broken? 3 hours later it is there again. Shout out to mz4250 you mentioned in the video, this man is a saint and deserves all donations he can get.
He finally reached his goal of making every monster in the WoTc catalog free and printable :3
Damn... that monochromatic scheme at the end there was legit!
I need to find a good set of miniatures to try that on. Maybe some Kytons or Shadow plane creatures or something.
Historical miniatures can be a good source, especially the newer plastic sets. Some are around 35$ or so for 30 minis like FireForge Games and Gripping Beast. Northstar does a lot of good plastic sets too, for Frostgrave and Oathmark that can be used with D&D. Lots of kit bashing and conversion potential if you are into creating your own figures.
Going into a smaller scale like 15mm can save you a lot too. Lots of historical and fantasy ranges to choose from, and any scenery/terrain you make will also be smaller and easier to store/transport. Can fit a lot more minis on the table at one time too, if you are into bigger battles and stuff like that.
Thank you Professor DungeonMaster for the great video. Keep up the good work man.
This is a good suggestion. Especially for low fantasy gritty realism. We sometimes joke in the minis community about fantasy tax. A unit of english longbowmen costs less than a unit of fantasy humans for no real reason at all. :D
use 15 mm for halflings and gnomes :) . paint their skin green for goblins maybe?
Damn this was an amazing video!!! Thanks for the tips Professor DM!!!
I 3D print nearly everything now, my Elegoo Mars is excellent! As for the brittleness of the minis, the type of resin used really matters, i use a mixture of Elegoo Fast(75%) and Siraya tech Tenacious(25%). This makes the minis very durable and flexible, if you're requisitioning some 3d prints i suggest this blend for your minis, you might have to pay a bit more, Siraya Tech Tenacious is pricey.
Part of it is just flat-out overcuring the minis, as well. I know I've done that far too many times.
great to see an update
The super fast and easy guide to painting the miniatures at the end of the video - do you have a tutorial and links to paints? Starting out here and loved your video!
I really like your speed paint method. Dang!
I recall picking up the Folklore: The Affliction minis set a couple years ago on a sale from an online retailer. 77 minis of 44 different sculpts for less than 30 dollars (around $26 IIRC). Soft plastic but a little hot-then-cold water got the few with bent weapons back into shape, and they're quite resilient. Not the greatest quality sculpts but cheap and varied. Apparently other people had the same idea and quickly swept those boxes up. Gotta keep an eye out for such discounted sets and pounce.
Ok the last box set looks dope . Awesome suggestion
Great episode! Here’s to another couple hundred thousand watches!
I've got Massive Darkness on my Amazon list now, so thanks for that.
And this has probably been mentioned before, but I also got a ton a cheap, but awesome minis from getting the RuneWars board game and its expansions.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
I'm gonna have to check out Hate. Thanks PDM.
I've bought 2 Epic Encounters boxes by Steam Forge games and really like them. I ordered the goblin and hydra boxes and await arrival of those. The orc & frost giant boxes are amazing and a lot of mini for the money.
Thanks for the recommendations.
Thank you Professor! anyway i'd like to raccomend 2 other comapanies i really appreciate: 'Dark Sword miniatures' and 'Rackham Confrontation | Legendarion | Cadwallon miniatures'. They're very good! expensive sometimes but if you want a specific miniature (1 or 2) it's a pleasure :)
I love the reaper bones miniatures. They have definitely gotten better too. I think they moved their production. Mantic is great too.
Great update! Truly a river to your people!
this guys charisma score is off the charts
If you can find it, you can get the Conan board game by Monolith for around that $100 mark as well. It has a large selection of monsters and heroes and could serve as a great starting point as well.
Prof, your energy in that video was sky high! Now I'm primed and want to split skulls!!
I thought I was playing this at 1.25X. I was wrong.
LOL, Valentine's day flowers at the Cemetery, that was great!
Next Monday Deathbringer releases his new hit single. Stay tuned.
Great video professor, and funny too.
Mythic Battles Pantheon! Super awesome packs of miniatures!
Reaper has done a Kickstarter for the past 4 or 5 years it’s friggin great
I’ve backed two of them. It can have a high upfront cost, but the price per mini is hard to beat.
And it’s a great way to get larger pieces for about half of normal retail.
I have gone the Resin Printer route. And I had trouble with breakage in the beginning. After switching to a more flexible resin it is much better. Hard to beat .15 to .25c a mini for the set up cost of about $250.00. I haven’t found the odor to be an issue either as resins have improved beyond this issue. However it is messy and fussy. On the upside though it’s also great for terrain pieces.
I love printable heroes! I actually have your old video to thank for my obsession with 2d minis, so thank you!
I usually like finding board games that come with lots of minis.
Can you recommend some?
Conan and Dark Souls both have gorgeous minis I really like. The Dungeons and Dragons Boardgames come with good chunks of generic minis. Zombicide has cool minis for undead.
The $5 below by my house last year had a ton of Magic the gathering board games I bought three and now have hordes of multi colored minis for mobs and a few minis prepainted I use for npc's.
Ollies Discount Outlet at Christmas always has chep, mini-intensive board games at Christmas. This year they sold for $15-25 up from last year's $10-20. You can sometimes find left overs during the year. But it is Ollies, so when it's gone, gone. ( "Ollies! Good stuffs cheap!!) (There are 3 within easy driving distance of me). 👻
Great videop, thanks for sharing. I find a ton of cheap minis from Mage knights or Heroclix.
I would highly recommend getting the "Epic Encounters" sets from Steam Forged games. The cost around $45 for a set of about 20 minis. That is about $2.25/mini which is cheaper than most reaper bones minis. They come assembled with their own bases. They are fun to paint and are a very good sculpt. Maybe professor DM could do a review of these, but there are already plenty of videos on them for people who are interested.
Fantastic video.
Damn, thank you so much for these sources.
I do the same quick paint you do, basically.
-Dark primer spray.
-Light colored heavy dry brush (you spray, I'll try that next time, way quicker).
-Then wash (same as you).
-Then a few highlights. My last batch this was a very light grey, barely anything, dry brush, and things popped like crazy.
I'll try painting minis one day. For now I have my eye on arcknight flat plastic minis, they look pretty good.
I would advice not to go for those. I thought they were thicker, but they are really thin and flimsy. Might as well print and laminate from Paper Forge or Printable Heroes.
I've been looking for a good easy way to do grey scale with splashs of color. Little did I know that you already had it for me.
Thanks for the tips!
That fast and easy paint job at 8:17 is the shit. I plan on painting my heroes to look cool, but making my bad guys with this style.
Oh yeah, i likey that speed painting technique, looks good
Great vid, thanks for doing it
Thanks Prof. Dungeon Master!
Cool ideas. I've got a few to paint. The village sets from Wizkids sounds good for a next on list. I do like to pick some up at my local game store, upping the cost a bit, but I want them around.
I just watched the other video, then the professor uploaded this!
Fantasy Series 1 by Blacklist Games is fantastic for someone just starting a collection. There are some nice PC/NPC sculpts and 5x of lots of the generic fantasy monsters.
The Kickstarter version is over 200 minis for $65+shipping which for the US was about $20 so $85 for 200+ minis is unbeatable. Even the regular box would be less than $1 a mini.
Series 2 is coming to Kickstarter on March 30.
Just as a major note, the WizKids Deep Cuts tend to be either more generic or Pathfinder in scale/appearance compared to Nolzur's which are their specifically D&D styled ones. If you're wanting your forces to blend, you may want to pay attention to that...things like the Pathfinder style Goblins are extremely distinct in appearance there
Not a kickstarter (though there are rumors of the guy handling it to be doing a new one soon since the last one is done), but the Crocodile Games Wargods line is awesome. They're metal minis, and you've got what are largely either egyptian/middle eastern or Greco/Roman in appearance due to the minis being for their Wargods wargames. They're great ones to have there.
If you don't mind a little bit more work, looking on eBay for the Fireforge Games or the Frostgrave/Oathmark sprues is a great way to get some for heavily customizable options that are relatively cheap. $2/$2.50 per mini with a massive pile of extra pieces and the ability to make your own custom is really good.
Woooooooop! Miniatures! Boosting that algorithm!
I really like tytantrollminiatures for 3D printing. Great poses and Detail. Love their stuff!
Conventional filament, rather than resin, 3d printing works quite well for "low res" minis. It requires support, and struggles with some of the fine detail, but if you just want some mooks it works well. The key to minimize support and delamination issues with arms and weapons is to use a non-monotomic tool path, which can be a bit tricky to set up. For simple figures, you can often just print them on a bias, so that the protruding appendages are roughly horizontal.
Personally, I use PLA, as it handles sanding and thermal forming (you can print it in one pose, then take a hot air station to soften it and re-pose the figure) post-printing reasonably well, and ones roughed with some sand paper, holds paint reasonably well too.
Like Warhammer Player, i have thousands of minis and scenaries.
Professor DM gived a lots of good options for start collecting Rpg's miniatures.
To solve the 3d printer mini being brittle there's an additive you can mix in to make it more flexible.
ooh, icy background for Ser Dethbringer. Awesome! :)
In 1998 I took an old Milton Bradley "Battle Masters" board game and butchered it for its minis. I glued them all to little wooden squares, got over 60 awesome fantasy miniatures that way for like $10, goblins, archers, horsemen, soldiers, orcs, beastmen, etc. We still use them to this day. Of course the board game goes for like $150+ complete now...
I like Zombicide Blackplague/Green Horde for fantasy figures. The KS were awesome for all the extra characters. Massive Darkness is also good.
If I wasn't so tied to online play I'd be wanting to drop hundreds now, haha. Great video!
wonderful video
With the "cheapness" theme, I thought surely Deathbringer was going to bring up low-cost wedding invitations (George Costanza Seinfeld reference).
the professor loves Seinfeld
This is an episode PDM references regularly
@@elizabethdefazio6065 :-) ! Referencing Seinfeld would seem to be an occupational hazard: I find myself using "Opposite George" frequently to encourage students in a humorous way to consider that some material may require new or uncomfortable modalities of study and approach.
Great video
Great advice , I’ve been trying to get something to you through your Facebook , related to figures , but another option
I got HATE and have been painting them, and the details are exquisite. There's a few big creatures that work for monsters or ogres. Chains, hooks, fur, and nipple rings on nearly every guy. Here's one thing I'll say - although the monotone colors work great for them, they are so detailed that I feel bad painting them in this way. Good news is it got me into painting.
Brilliant painting tips! Would you consider a separat painting video?
The kids are watching and thinking “gee thanks Dad”
Yes, yes we are
After 20+ years of using minis I've realized they are handcuffs to my creativity. I can never own enough minis to put what I want on the table. I end up trying to convince myself to fit in the minis I have or end up using them as proxies, which just means I could have used anything to represent what I wanted.