How Strong was Kevin Levrone Vs Ronnie Coleman
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Kevin Levrone is a 4 x Mr Olympia runner-up and considered one of the strongest Bodybuilders of the 1990's but how did he compare to 8 x Mr O Ronnie Coleman?
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His workouts are very they inspire me to train hard it goes to show you you got to dedicate yourself to your workouts and never give up you know they wanted they're making big dollars I wish I could make money like that
Kevin is definitely another uncrowned Mr Olympia.💪🏻🤘🏻
That's right
Fantastic video. Kevin is a beast. He was known for 600 lb squats, benches and curling 100 lb dumbbells. But Ronnie was in a class of his own. Even Kevin spoke about Ronnie's strength in the past. Yes Ronnie 'short strokes' his reps, but the sheer volume and poundages he used were ridiculous. Each of those lifts you showed were a part of Ronnie's precontest workouts, meaning he was on less calories and in some cases had already done other exercises. For example with the incline dumbbell press he had already worked up to 12 reps on the flat dumbbell press with the 200 lb dumbbells for 12 reps. Kevin's amazing because on the other hand would only lift for 12-16 weeks to prepare for the Olympia while Ronnie only took short breaks. Kevin's a hyper grower and his strength and size returns so quickly. Both these men are genetic freaks, amazing God fearing gentlemen and great ambassadors of the sport.
Whether it happened or not, If Kevin's 600 lb bench is not on video, then it never happened..
@@earlcoles5215squats bro squats…read again…not bench
@@Adiarby13 I did read, you need to read, he mentioned bench up there indicating he also has a 600 lb bench along with the squats and there are rumors that Kevin benched 600 and tore his pec trying to accomplish the 2nd rep... and I still stand about what I said in my original post
@@Adiarby13 Yeah just imagine if Kevin ever took steroids, the man would be unbelievably strong!
@@artv4nd3l4y what in the blue hell are you talking about..
Tbh I’m much more impressed with Kevin’s lifts.
I always liked Kevin's upper body moves, chest and delts,
The man was pressing like a hydraulic piston, beast.
kevin had insane pushing power,bench press etc. very impressive
It should be mentioned that you cant really compare one leg press to another and same with hacksquat machines. They always feel very different and you cant say weight x = weight x. Id say that old rusty leg press in Metroflex is harder than the new perfectly oiled ones in modern gyms which makes Ronnies clip even more ridicolous than it already is, same with the hacksquat.
Leg press that Ronnie used is apparently at 30º compared to other Leg presses which use 45º so it's actually easier although I need to do some work the verify this
@@StrengthUniverse thats interesting
I think so too; it was commented on an earlier video with Ronnie but I want to verify it before I make the statement in any videos
Ronnie Coleman uses the Nebula leg press which is angled at 30 degrees, so it‘s only 70% as hard as a regular leg press angled at 45 degrees.
Intelligent Strength has great videos on biomechanics that also explain the math behind it. It‘s in German though.
Ronnie was stronger in the squat and deadlift but Kevin was stronger in the bench press
I heard that Levrone tore his pec by benching 600lbs for 1.5 repetitions
@@earlcoles5215woah wtf. That's insane. So that is what his pec tear was from???
Kevin was a beast. Being much lighter and famously "growing into the show", Ronnie probably had 50+ pounds of BW on him in some of these clips. Aside of this it seems to me that Kevin not only has generally a much better form (featuring same or lighter weights) but he apparently had more in the tank and many of these clips looked like a 2nd set of a 4 set workout, while Ronnie either had limited range and/or assisted reps at the end of the sets. So he trained to failure while Kevin was "in the zone" but kept a strict form and just had certain number of reps in mind.
So it is hard to actually compare them. Both are beasts imo. Ronnie was probably stronger, but pound-for-pound Kevin was there!
Kevin was an amazing bodybuilder, he had strength almost on par with Ronnie and a physique that looked roughly something half way in between Arnold's and Ronnie's physique.
Wow, I didn’t know that Kevin was that strong... He is one of my all time favourites bodybuilders ever
A lot of people don’t know how freaking strong kevin was. Everyone knows Ronnie was ridiculously strong but kevin seemed to go under the radar
Ronnie doesn't do full range of motion on bench since locking of elbow is considered as resting. He is focusing on his chest more since the chest muscle doesn't benefit on locking the elbows.
@Thor Odinson everything he just said is actually right
It's still improper form and should not be replicated by natural lifters. Anyone on massive amounts of gear can get away with partial reps, but a full, controlled ROM is the best and most healthy way to lift weights.
@@TheBussyAnnihilator that's why ur small
@@princess10 that's why your parents don't love you, stop projecting cringelord
@@TheBussyAnnihilator that’s why he’s won 8 mr Olympias 😂
Levrone always had very good lifting style! his dumbell curl also was excellent I remember.. and very strong
I was surprised at their seated press. They are very strong. I think even weight lifters may struggle to lift that heavy ass weight.
Incredible weights for "Bodybuilders"👍
Exactly! The weights Ronnie, Markus, Kevin and Dorian lifted were so impressive even in Weightlifting, Powerlifting and Strongman standards. Please mention if I miss anyone. Does Jay belong in this list? Because he pushed himself to the extreme because of Ronnie...
@@Nirsterkur I think so, Jay could be in the mix, also Greg Kovacs and Johnnie Jackson although in terms of BB he certainly can't be compared to the names you've mentioned. Luke Sandoe was very strong
@@StrengthUniverse Thanks for the knowledge buddy! You know the best.
Honestly, I think you build some sort of strenght in all rep ranges. By the way, I dont know much about training, it just makes sense.
Sorry but Kevin’s the clear winner here because of his form and ROM. In other words, Ronnie moves the weight, Kevin lifts the weight.
Kevins Bench is insane 🔥
Kevin was definitely stronger pound per body pound ratio, KEVIN was definitely superior and to remember he was more than 50 pounds lighter than ronnie is even more impressive
As always great Video Keep it up 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks, appreciated!
Wait a long time to see Kevin Levrone here
I think we should note that Ronnie doesn't have poor ROM he has exactly the ROM he was after and that worked for him.
Agreed, its bodybuilding. As long as the muscle is being trained effectively that's all that matters. Its not powerlifting where the form is judged.
Actually on that video where Ronnie was benching 500 lbs , he had an injured shoulder that's why Brian was spotting him for the last few reps and also why his range of motion wasn't quite all the way other than that he would have done it with full range and more reps.
pretty sure kevins form saved him from bad injuries also
Great stuff! Although I think Ronnie is stronger his ROM was questionable
Doesn't matter. Ronnie was stronger in EVERY single lift. There's no doubt about it. But, Kevin was still a lot stronger than I am. 🤣
Levrone was in insanely strong Dorian Yates even contested to that, if he would have become a power lifter he would be breaking records.
Ronnie's leg press clip is legendary
it is although I don't think it's a good measure of leg strength due to the differences between machines
@@StrengthUniverse still a 1000 solid ass pounds
@@alessiobubbles5345 2300+ solid ass pounds! And the Metroflex sled is 150lbs. Can we all believe a 50 pound sled can hold all those plates? I'd say it's 2,400 solid ass pounds (1,088 kilos). i.e. 50x45 lbs plates = 2,250 plus 150 sled = 2,400.
@@Nirsterkur YEAHH BUDDYYYY
This is like bodybuilding trumps! I love it brilliant!
Very good, my only gripe is Kevin not getting that last lift
Another great video! Do a video on konstantin konstantinovs vs Jon Pall Sigmarsson or a standalone video on either athlete.
Surly do one Vs Konstantine Janashia for the battle of the Konstantin's
Chris bumstead vs Noel deyzel
What about pound for pound, Kevin for me every time no bubble gut.
That Kevin guy look like Greg doucette
That is not poor range of motion on 200lb dumbells. That is the only range of motion on 200lb dumbells
When Kevin and Dave was talking in one of them RX interviews then I heard Kevin max weight was around 270lbs
Pound for pound, levrone is stronger, period..,..and his form is much better
Kevin Levrone is 5'9" not 5'11". Ronnie's leg press at Metroflex was a 30 - 35 degree sled rather than the standard 45 degree sled.
Otherwise good clip as always.
Kevin 5'11
@@daniargrylls55 No Kevin Levrone was 5'9". 2" shorter than Ronnie and Flex.
Not locking on presses keeps the muscles under continuous tension
Would love 2 see some brian shaw comparisons
Legends. Say no more.
I think you called it right but it's a ashame you didn't add dumbell curles for the two, if you had I think Kevin would have got it because Kevin had the strongest biceps I've ever seen until Larry Wheels and Morgan Aste hit the scene.
The first time i saw ronnie doing the leg press i was like oh cool 2300 lbs for one rep wow...then oh my
Chad Wesley Smith vs Chris duffin
But?, one thing. Kevin Levrone Bench Press is complete in rmovement. Is like 3 of Kevin is a real 6 in the movement of Coleman. The honest always.
Kevin Is to strong ...
Great video. How about john haack vs chad penson comparison i hope it would be a great video. Both are of same weight class and are great powerlifter. They are still young and have bright future.
Hi, I'll look into it.
Lol no one comes close to Haack, forget Chad Penson
@Nobody he already is, those numbers with the highest possible rom
Stan Efferding is the strongest pro bodybuilder ever..... just to clarify
Technically, yes. However Stan focused on powerlifting and wasn't prepping to compete in a bodybuilding competition at that time.
I think Ronnie c is the king of heavyweight in bodybuilding + dallace mccarver ...👍💪
Ronnie is the bigger man, so he should be stronger. If you give Kevin the potential wins like I did, it is a very close contest, with Ronnie only beating him by one lift.
kevin can do way more than 130 on incline dumbbell. he did 405 for reps on the bar! Even I've done 125 incline dumbbell 6 times.
Theres a video of kevin doing 520 x 2 on incline
How strong was mike mentzar request
Even Dorian once said that Kevin is stronger than him..
The range can't be to poor and has to work if he is an 8X Mr. Olympia
No doubt Ronnie was strong, but so was Kevin. As massive is, Ronnie was his physique was not aesthetically pleasing. Kevin had the best physique I’ve ever seen.
Kevin literally paused 5th to last rep on incline bench
yes, damn impressive
Kevin has stronger pecs and shoulders, he doesn't have the videos to compare, his 1992 pecs tear was from a 600+ lbs bench
That's correct. Shame he suffered that injury
IMO you don't need an old video for a comparison. Kevin demonstrates superior chest strength in the incline and flat bench. On his last rep on incline, he actually pauses at the bottom. Ronnie could have saved himself from destroying his joints if he lifted lighter and focused more on intensity, as we see Kevin does in his lifts. His ego to try to be the strongest messed him up.
Can you do andrey sapozhonkov vs franco
Hi, I'll look into it
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ronnie isnt doing ohp under limited range of motion at all
John haack vs Zack mcarley
Kevin won the OHP. Clear.
Dan bell vs Tom stoltman
I'm not sure that would be much of a comparison as Dan would smoke him
Este muchacho está muy joven y no vivió las polémicas que se dieron en al menos los últimos 3 Mr Olympia que Coleman enfrentó a Jay Cutler, donde mucha gente abucheó a Coleman cuando era mas que obvio que le habian regalado el 1er lugar, porque Ronnie ya presentaba una distensión abdominal muy notoria mientras que Jay, venia plano y rallado impecable, con un volumen y definición superiores , Coleman tiene totulos inmerecidos les guste o no, recuerden que una de las juezas era su novia quien tenia claramente conflictos de interes, al menos debería haber sido 6 Ronie, y 6 para Jay ,siendo conservadores, ademas de que han habido fisicos mucho mejores de el de Ronnie, sin coronarse, como Kevin Lebrone, quien por ejemplo nunca ganó pero tampoco mostró esa panza que si tuvo Ronnie Coleman. Asi qué Ronnie no fue el mejor de todos, sino uno de los 2 culturistas con 8 títulos, pero no el mejor.
You completely avoid Ronnie deadlift and squat, for me that's not fair
"You completely avoid Ronnie deadlift and squat". There are no videos of Kevin doing a deadlift or heavy squat during his peak competitive years. The only video of a working set of squats that I could find was in 2016 when Kevin was 52 years old thus there was nothing I could compare for these lifts
It’s easier to lock out every time doing reps unlike Ronnie who keeps his muscles under constant stress and load ...... dumb as a box of rocks if u think otherwise
Ronnie = GOAT
Strength universe, the reason why Ronnie doesn't lock out is to keep the constant strain on the muscle rather than going full stretch which is a rest and of course easier.
Hi Nimal, I know the reason mate, but the limited ROM still requires less effort when compared to full ROM with the same weight and as this video is about who is stronger that becomes very important.
@@StrengthUniverse Then it must be easy for some and difficult for some.
Full range of motion will give better results , that type of constant tension is total bs , and full range of motion is easier ? Bruh
@@kryptonianstrength8461 I think full ROM and constant tension works differently on pulling v. pushing movements. Both are definitely beneficial.
A mí me gustaba más el físico de levrone
Every machine is different,, no way to compare hack and leg press , plus Ronnie is 50 pounds bigger at the same height
I guess squat and deadlift weren’t included to give Lavrone a chance
Hope. I can only compare lifts that they have both done. There is no footage of Kevin doing a deadlift and the only video of him squatting was when he made a return to Bodybuilding in his 50's
@@StrengthUniverse Have u ever reached out to any of the people seeing if they have any footage of old lifts? That would be cool to get some that nobody has seen before. Love ur channel btw
@@jonathanwilkerson4592 Thanks Jonathan. I often talk with strongmen competitors and powerlifters prior to making videos but that more to get some history or stats that aren’t in the public domain. I have never asked if they have old videos I could use but it’s a good idea
What ever Kevin is best
Isnt kevin with knee wraps as well(just above his clothes?)
Hi, as stated in the video they are thin tubular knee sleeves
@@StrengthUniverse oh is that so, didn't notice, thx for informing, keep up with the golden content brother.
@@gurifisuuu4896 Thanks mate
You definitely don't much about bodybuilding first the range of motion with ronnie he can lift with full range of motion bodybuilders are going for whatever gives them the best pump and knee raos don't give you an advantage I can squat or do leg press with the same weight leg raps are to protect your knees just like a belt protects your back and core
"You definitely don't much about bodybuilding" oh no what would someone who has been lifting weights for 38 years know about Bodybuilding!
No deadlift or squats 😭
Unfortunately not, The only footage I could find of Kevin doing squat's was when he trained for a come back for the 2016 Mr. Olympia when he was 53 years Old, as you can understand it wasn't really a fair or suitable comparison
What if you did curls for them I 5hink Kevin takes curls
Kevin did 100lb DB curls so probably
Bro use dont include dumble curl
I can only include lifts that both athletes have maxed out on Video
@@StrengthUniverse ok bro
actually ronnie was lifting like a body builder its smart because you dont destroy your joints, kev is superstrong too but he trains like a power lifter locking out its kinda dangerous specially with the weight they put in but both are impressive though i follow ronnies philosophy in lifting to avoid injuries but i like kevins physique more and is actually my fav bb. both are impressive in their own right.
You follow Ronnies philosophy of lifting to avoid injuries 😂😂😂 Are you serious? Last time I checked Ronnie was fucked with back injuries. No such problem for Kevin
Ronnie was a mutant but I really can't shake the feeling that he didn't need to do it, seeing him now. 😕
You can't change who you are
@Waldel Martell His injuries certainly were; what i mean is you can't change your personality, drive and motivation......If you are the sort of person that gives 100% to everything than that is who you are.
How the hell Kevin don't win on the seated press, u have no clue what ur about when.judging. Also, both draws are wins for Kevin. While there is no doubting Ronnie's strength, he does half reps and so cannot compare to Kevin doing the complete full rep.
You need to pick.up another sport for comparisons, body building performances are not for you.
Opps, care to state any facts as to why you think Kevin should have won the seated press and the two draws or are we just going off your subjective opinion? Or it's that's to difficult please feel free to point out any that I stated that was wrong!
yeah i'm calling BS on that 4 plate BEHIND THE NECK!! smith machine press by Levrone (my favorite bb tho) - you can't see the other end of the machine ... someone can spot from there.
He did the same or 3 plates for 12 I think on his return 5 years ago. No reason why he couldn't do it back then.
3:36 Kevin is locking his knees which makes it ezier to make more reps
Ronnie is doing it nonstop, faster with no rest between reps with no rly worse range of motion cuz u dont have to full lock knees
just my opininon ^^
And that's why Kevin can still walk and Ronnie can't!
Great comparison, Levrone was surprisingly close
Thanks Marko
Pound for pound Kevin is stronger one could argue
no offence strength universe Ronnie doesn't use full range because half reps build more muscle tension and that's was Ronnie goal he even mentions it once in one of his interviews
Ronnie using moment
Kevin real using reps
Kevin was 5'9 and on stage he was visibly shorter than Ronnie. I'd say 2 inch difference
Kevin Lebron arillo benching 405 points. What about Roney Coleman?
What I love about these great videos they are short and sweet to the point💪.
Thanks Gaz
How do you compare a free press to a Smith machine assisted press?
It's very hard to draw an accurate conclusion but this was the closest heavy shoulder press that I could find as Kevin never performed OHP with free weights
Kevin was a struck guy & Ronnie was not
Kevin is stronger if judged by a professional judge!
Ronnie is one off a kind beast!
I always wondered who really was the strongest bodybuilder. Like if Lee Priest or if Dorian went to the max what numbers it could be
Dorian wasn't about strength: he was about absolute suffering at RPE 11 (like RPE 10 but you do It every workout)
@bruh no i know bro, just mean i would be curious what it could have been
Overall all exercises combined, it's definitely Ronnie. Nobody else comes close.
Lou ferrigno was the strongest bodybuilder that’s why he played the hulk and Hercules.
LEE PRIEST TOLD ME HIS BENCH MAX WAS 550... LITTLE GUY PROBABLY EXAGGERATED