Former JTF2 Assaulter Talks About CQB Training With CAG (Delta Forice)

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  • @alexhc3089
    @alexhc3089 Місяць тому +7

    I remember hearing Pat Mac saying that they can fire you at any time for anything. He was saying that one guy "turned himself in" after having a negligent discharge while training by himself. He got suspended for 6 months.

  • @briancooper9495
    @briancooper9495 2 місяці тому +41

    You always get more respect when owning a mistake. We all make them. Own it, learn from it, carry on.

  • @ssgtomen621
    @ssgtomen621 2 місяці тому +37

    That's crazy!!! Eric L Haney once said 3 things guarantee an exit from the unit- laying hands on a Unit member, accidental discharge of a weapon, or hitting a hostage. I am willing to bet they handled this internally, and the guys that went in the room with him probably clocked his mistake as well. If not, shame on that CAG troop, they suppose to be benchmark of excellence, especially in CQB. Good on the JTF assaulter for owning it.

    • @RAPEDBYBLACKS
      @RAPEDBYBLACKS 2 місяці тому

      Lmao you are naive if you think they “owned it internally. Delusional.

    • @ssgtomen621
      @ssgtomen621 13 днів тому

      @RAPEDBYBLACKS You need to elaborate, mate. I lack the IQ you have. Care to explain what do you mean?

  • @lichtsoldat7697
    @lichtsoldat7697 14 днів тому

    Also, love the cross training stories. Keep them up. Love to hear about you guys training with Delta, Seals, SAS, GROM, etc....Can't get enough of those stories. lol

  • @LiamTrudel-zg6fl
    @LiamTrudel-zg6fl 2 місяці тому +20

    Always cool to hear about JTF2's partnership with foreign units

  • @mariokarras7591
    @mariokarras7591 2 місяці тому +7

    Integrity. Good stuff man.
    This is why AARs will continue and we strive to always improve

  • @andyroberts805
    @andyroberts805 2 місяці тому +2

    Much respect for owning the mistake. That’s why we train is to get our mistakes out there before we move on to a real world scenario. People need to stop looking at training mistakes as a loss but a chance to learn. Ya don’t lose, ya learn

  • @gc4th
    @gc4th 2 місяці тому +2

    You know this will be another great one!

  • @mouthbreather280
    @mouthbreather280 2 місяці тому +14

    Wow. Someone should have called him out in debrief. That sort of thing should not be tolerated. This is supposed to be an echelon of extremely high standards, and that doesn’t stop at hard skills like CQB, it just as much includes the soft ones like integrity, honesty, and humility. Don’t encourage that type of behaviour by letting it go unchecked. You want the opposite of that type of conduct in a SOF org.

    • @ffryan
      @ffryan 2 місяці тому +7

      I guarantee that would have been dealt with internally afterwards. If I see you screw up in training I probably am not going to call you out in front of an allied unit but we are going to have a conversation about it afterwards. The Unit is notorious for "one strike and you're out" when it is a big strike. "Every day is selection" is one of their internal sayings.

    • @mouthbreather280
      @mouthbreather280 2 місяці тому +4

      @@ffryan I’d hope so, but we don’t know if his other teammates saw him do it. And if he made an effort to hide that mistake, he probably covers his other mistakes.

    • @ryanvanginkel3750
      @ryanvanginkel3750 2 місяці тому +2

      Ya gay bud?

    • @iknowthetruth8479
      @iknowthetruth8479 2 місяці тому

      Shut up

    • @jobguerekull1267
      @jobguerekull1267 2 місяці тому

      It seemed that you haven't experienced what your preaching

  • @Legionofqwerty
    @Legionofqwerty 2 місяці тому +4

    Great story, love hearing about working with other units. Do you have any opinions or stories about US Army ISA or JTFX? Neither one of them every get much attention so it would be really interesting to hear your opinion on them!!

  • @pg208
    @pg208 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice to hear a story of delta and others not being perfect all the time. It happens you know

  • @TheRambler-pz1gx
    @TheRambler-pz1gx 2 місяці тому +23

    The Delta guy tore the target down because when they mess up tearing it down is a "awww I fucked up big time".
    His team mates 100% handled it internally. I forget where I heard/read it but Delta is very very strict on the no kill targets. For obvious reasons, but for not so obvious is they often train with real people as hostages with live fire. This mess up means someone from another squad could have been hit if it were a live target training scenario.
    He wasnt blowing it off. His team didnt want to let anyone see how they took care of it.

    • @Rubeless
      @Rubeless 2 місяці тому

      Our heads next to a 3X5 index card. Talk about ass pucker.

  • @lichtsoldat7697
    @lichtsoldat7697 14 днів тому

    When we did a call or trained we always owned our mistakes. Couple of guys tried hiding their mistakes and it didn't go too well. We are all alpha our teams, so no one is timid about bringing things up and calling people out. It's not about embarrassing that person, it's about integrity and learning from our own mistakes and the mistakes of your team mates. But, I get why you guys did not call him out. You guys knew and that is enough. They have to worry about that when they go back home. It's their problem. Keep the peace, train together and learn from one another. Professional.

  • @djsmith2871
    @djsmith2871 2 місяці тому +2

    I'd be curious to know how they reacted to your debrief. What reaction did they have overall (e.g., cool. Quality organization that takes accountability and is constantly learning and improving), and did you get any individual feedback / reaction from the Delta operators?

  • @alainrouleau
    @alainrouleau 2 місяці тому +5

    Definitely NOT good for the Delta guy. Brings into question of what else he wasn't candid about?
    Any lack of candor is not good in that type of business. Morality and ethics are hugely important.

    • @jaypee389
      @jaypee389 2 місяці тому

      @alainrouleau
      When you leave the military and join Corporations....Lie, Cheat, and Steal to the best of your ability.
      Makes for easier transitions.
      Or else you will make 50k a year which is like 19k in 1993.
      Corporations are harsh if you know what I mean.

  • @sam-kx3ty
    @sam-kx3ty 3 дні тому

    You are an honest dude, nice work. Have you ever worked with FBI HRT or seals?
    At every workplace, there are arrogant people, lol

  • @cm-pr2ys
    @cm-pr2ys 2 місяці тому +1

    Whats the difference between jtf2 and csor? Also, will the canadian airborne regiment ever come back? Does canada have marines?

  • @ScoobieDoobie197474
    @ScoobieDoobie197474 2 місяці тому +5

    So nothing ever came of it?

  • @frostbitepokin9520
    @frostbitepokin9520 2 місяці тому +4

    Love delta forice

  • @jeremiah1528
    @jeremiah1528 2 місяці тому

    You should have called him out. Instead of making a video about it.....

  • @MrWTFish
    @MrWTFish 2 місяці тому

    Hello sir can i pls know what kind of boots you have? Or you have used and recommend? It would help a lot

    • @Rubeless
      @Rubeless 2 місяці тому

      What for? You guys think everything is so special and you need it to go to a public range.
      I wore addias forum bball shoes.

    • @MrWTFish
      @MrWTFish 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Rubeless army boot claim...

  • @SandraWilson-e4d
    @SandraWilson-e4d 27 днів тому

    Antwan Junction

  • @DEACONR6155
    @DEACONR6155 2 місяці тому

  • @yashaofsauga
    @yashaofsauga 2 місяці тому +2

    my friend, that is a microcosm on the difference between canadian high-performers and american high-performers
    im sure you see yourself in those guys as fellow anglo-saxons but who they are and who you are as a canadian are worlds apart.

    • @jonahm2956
      @jonahm2956 2 місяці тому

      What tier 1 unit are you a member of?

    • @yashaofsauga
      @yashaofsauga 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jonahm2956 the same tier one unit Jesus is apart of.

  • @GarciaTheresa-t1o
    @GarciaTheresa-t1o 16 днів тому

    Harris Donna Moore George Jones Donna

  • @wingzero7316
    @wingzero7316 2 місяці тому +4

    You acknowledge and learned from your mistake, while that delta guy doesn't care about learning from his mistakes. I rather you save me in a hostage rescue than that delta dude, he probably shoot the hostages. I think you and I would get along. If i could go back in time i try to get a desk job within JTF2, I couldn't ever be an operator even know i wish i could have been. I was told at the recruiting center in 2003, i not medically able to work in any combat and related support jobs. If there a job in JTF2 i wont be doing combat training nor being deployed, i be working 9 to 5 on a computer if such a job exists that what i do. Atlest i could be friends with the operators.

    • @Bravefit
      @Bravefit 2 місяці тому +5

      Former 3rd batt here who worked with delta quite a bit 2006 - 2008. I promise you they dealt with this internally. It’s just the culture over there. They don’t let anything slide. That being said - they are cqc wizards. I’ve never seen anything like it. I wish people could see just how fast they move through a target, all shoot targets A box shots or head shots.

    • @wingzero7316
      @wingzero7316 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Bravefit my only CQB experience is paintball, OG counter strike and call of duty

  • @ThaWiz11
    @ThaWiz11 2 місяці тому +1

    There's a reason why these guys are always breaking the longest kill shot. They're not even close to being in the fight. After you got done crying in the corner you should've saluted that delta force member and thanked him for his service.

  • @muddwhistle7833
    @muddwhistle7833 2 місяці тому

    Only a JTF2 or Air Force would screw up the name Delta Force👨‍❤️‍👨

  • @EvolvedTactical
    @EvolvedTactical 2 місяці тому

    I'm throwing the bullshit flag. That shit wouldn't be tolerated in Ranger Regiment (where I served). We have nothing if not our integrity, especially in the hot wash. You're expected to own your mistakes, they don't get "handled internally" just because you're with a partner force. If that kind of amatuer bullshit won't fly in a relatively large SOF unit like the Rangers, where E-3s make mistakes all day long, it sure as fuck doesn't fly in The Unit.
    Maple Syrup boy is full of shit.

    • @cwwcww7465
      @cwwcww7465 2 місяці тому

      It has been rumored that over the years , a dude in CAG might take one for the team and shoot a friendly on purpose or few just to make the guests think they are not as good as they really are........
      Rumor of course....
      CAG is the absolute best at CQB..... by a measurable margin....
      But dont tell Devgru or Marsocs new crew....they might get grumpy with you....
      Semper Fi

    • @cron1165
      @cron1165 2 місяці тому

      @@cwwcww7465 Thats what US propaganda says anyway. "Our mistakes are on purpose to not make allies feel bad"... Complete bullshit lmao
      Also It's impossible to know what CAG is or isn't the best at, what are you talking about saying "by a measurable margin" when no one in the unit itself is even measuring? Skill varies between squadrons, teams and individuals and it's a long shot to say their better than JTF2 or the SAS, SASR etc when those units have such a heavy emphasis on CQB

    • @cwwcww7465
      @cwwcww7465 2 місяці тому

      @@cron1165 what am I talking about??? Measurable margin?
      Really?
      All others , except for 1 other, in the US, currently, measures themselves against CAG....
      They are the absolute laser sharpened tip of the spear. Especially, in CQB and land based HRST....
      And besides, Chuck Norris chose CAG....how can you argue with that...?
      DEVGRU under RM, was at that level once...they have lost a step.....compared to CAG....Especially, in CQB.
      Keep your eye on MARSOC....they have one cooking...
      Semper Fi......

  • @jaypee389
    @jaypee389 2 місяці тому

    Maybe he mag dumped the Dove because he was trolling you...and also...trying to teach you to not talk and TALK about Doves....
    I.E. If Canadian Peacekeepers are tryi g to stabilize and area....
    And you have Delta training Croats on how to possibly Dove...then that could be a conflict at the U.N.
    Never talk about Doves.
    Thats my take. Im probably wrong.

    • @volatilecolon
      @volatilecolon 2 місяці тому +6

      You're definitely wrong, yeah.

    • @jaypee389
      @jaypee389 2 місяці тому

      @volatilecolon
      Okay sry.
      I just sped read through 20th century history in detail real quick though.
      I knew I was wrong...I thought I might be.

  • @georgeclarke3679
    @georgeclarke3679 2 місяці тому

    Hahah. K bud

  • @robc8892
    @robc8892 2 місяці тому

    Yawn

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    @AbbottPhoenix 24 дні тому

    69125 Stacy Place

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    @SherwoodSebastian Місяць тому

    0533 Leila Villages