Why Oscar Snubs Matter | Video Essay
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2020
- In this video essay we discuss why Oscar snubs matter in terms of representation as a whole in the industry and some of the problems the academy need to tackle to reach fair and equal representation across the board.
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To those who suggest ignoring Oscar: You can always ignore the problem but the problem will never ignore you. You are saying this as if you hold the power, as if Oscar craves your attention. You can always win a debate in your head with your eyes closed and mouth shut but at the end of the day, what really matters?
Or maybe the Oscar voters don’t even watch the films they nominate or even decide to see what on the For Your Consideration list. Honestly, what kinda matters to me is how much I like the film and how it makes an impact on me. And I’ll continue to support many of the snubbed people your talking about since I wanna see their beautiful work on the big screen. I think how we remember the work and how much we treasure it, will always matter more than some gold statue that we choose to act is valuable.
oscars, grammys, they are not prestigious anymore. it's all about glamour nowdays.
As a fan of the Little Women story, Gerwig botched the movie, so I'm not mad she got nothing. Even though the followed the details of the book more closely, the tone of the movie was so off and was actually very poorly made. As a 21 year old female I'm very alone in this thinking, but I stand by my opinion of her adaptation.
Really interesting essay. Thank you 👍
Unpopular opinion, why not just vote for the best movies regardless of who made it???
Amen
That’s easy to say, but when the Academy is made up of a large white male majority, then the winning films are always going to be considered “Best” from a white male perspective, that’s the whole point of this video
@@itsjustcinema
It's a private organization that sits around sniffing its own farts. Why does it even matter? I'm sure women and non-whites can make their own award show where they sniff their own farts and only nominate people like them.
What really matters is money, and Avengers Endgame was very diverse and made bank.
@@itsjustcinema Wrong! It's because primarily when women direct films, they are not as appealing to audiences as when men do it. The one film that was interesting in the least this year was Little Women and that was nominated for best picture. Yes the academy is primarily filled with white males, but they dont look at films based on the gender who made it, but the quality of the film. Mainly the most liked and talked about films this year happen to be made by male filmmakers: Joker, The Irishamn, Parasite, etc. Nothing against woman, but that is just a fact. Name one outstanding female filmmaker this year (besides Greta Gerwig) that truly deserved a best director nomination over Scorsese and Bong Joon Ho? I'll wait
Masters of Movies The only people who actually pay attention to the race and gender of directors who actually win these awards that… Let’s face it, no one cares about… Are people who are racist and sexist. The awards are not indicative of the opinions of the general populace. Just because such and such movie won an award, it doesn’t mean the audience will agree with that sentiment.
In the end, it really only matters what the audience thinks. Who cares if Hollywood needs to hit diversity quotas? What a superficial and stupid thing to worry about and make a video over.🙄
I don't think the solution to the problem is getting more diverse people to vote in the oscars. I think that movies made by diverse people should be taken more seriously as contenders. People should kick up a fuss about movies that they think deserve a nomination, to make people notice they exist.
Exactly
@@bibaolaitan5189 "I don't think the solution to the problem is getting more diverse people to vote in the oscars. I think that movies made by diverse people should be taken more seriously as contenders."
A more diverse voting pool _is_ how you get movies made by diverse people to be taken seriously as contenders.
"People should kick up a fuss about movies that they think deserve a nomination, to make people notice they exist."
The Academy doesn't have to listen to "people kicking up a fuss." They're a self-selected private organization that can do what they want - and that's the problem.
Here's an idea: Ignore the Oscars.
Definitely. What matters is how much these great filmmakers make a big impact on our lives with their art.
You can always ignore the problem but the problem will never ignore you.
Dude i was confused and that's why i thought it was Every Frame A Painting...
I find it so baffling that Hollywood made all these Oscar bait movies relating to black issues, only to piss off both the people who want more diversity in movies and the one complaining about how "minorities get special treatment". now we are back to square one smh.
All the movies are showing severe suffering, it's just how it normally the award mostly goes to, When you watch one of those movies You get out the cinema and you go "Damn, That was heavy", Just showing suffering on a screen is the highest thing to do, AND A TRUE story, so WITH THAT, Black movies about slavery is a winner, Cuz it's the highest suffering out of them..... That's my reasoning for it, i just hate Putting % and not asking questions.
I think the most qualified should be worthy of creating art.
Yes absolutely. Also the members of the academy (whom I may add was diversified three years ago when 800 new members were invited) need to do the work and watch a ton of movies to figure out which are the best. I feel the recent attempts to diversify the academy members yielded mixed to little results.
Worth of creating? Anyone who wants to make art is worthy of creating it
Except for little women, mention just 3 movies made in 2019 by women who are in the level of compitting for best director against the actual nominees like Tarantino, Phillips, Scorsesse, etc. Last year was very criticized for the winners that were in majority women and people of color and it was all not because of their talent (many contenders deserved more recognition) but because of the minority they represent. And you have movies like Black Panther winning many awards just because it’s a movie made by black people and it’s about black people. There’s nothing wrong with that but the movie itself isn’t a great one and only won for being politically correct, despite the lack of cinematographic effort. This is one of the few ceremonies of the Oscars where the quality is recognized over the political correction and you people are offended because they didn’t nominated enough minorities?
A lot of people are offended because the films we thought were better than Irishman and Hollywood didn't get nominated, and it fits within the pattern of minority filmmakers not getting recognition. Did you even watch the video?
@@1999studios but nominating and awarding movies and people simply because they were made by or had minorities in them would be equally as racist and discriminating. In his case about black people being nominated in roles about discrimination and racism, i think he makes a fair point and i agree but in his argument about women i think he is wrong movies like the irishman or the once upon a time were made for the academy awards, they fit perfectly. I don't think that the problem is that these movies were nominated it is though that those types of movies are always directed by men, of course a movie with robert de niro, joe pesci and al pacino will be nominated, but how many big budgets and big actors do you see in woman directed movies. And im not saying that this detail makes them bad, they might even be better but they won't be as big, and they won't fit they usual academy nominations.
@@nunomelanda5388 again, did you not watch the video? The argument is that they were deserving on their own merit against the films that got it, but they were ignored, and have been statistically ignored as less white films and actors. It IS about the merit.
@@1999studios did you read my comment? The academy awards are not about merit, the types of movies that are nominated and win are always the same and changing that to give merit to minorities would be racist all the same. Anyway i don't care about the academy awards because of that exact reason a movie like little women would never be able to win a best picture award and it's neither because it's directed by a woman or because it's bad, it's because it doesn't fit their stupid criteria.
@@nunomelanda5388 which is why we're arguing for voter representation
Make a video on difference between anti hero and villan
but at the same time, i dont wanna see this scenario happen where if there's a movement like blm, lgbt for example, taking place then people on the board just decide "ok, this year, people of color must win, this year trans people must win etc". please dont let it happen.
The oscars don’t matter. There rich just people giving each other meaningless awards and that’s fine, no problem with that. The problem is when people start treating it as something that matters.
YES! YES! YES! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Loved this video.
Is it also possible that the best director ends up with best director award? Or add a category for female director or dare i say non white categories . Until there is transparency about the entire decision process, the suggestion above must also be considered.
5:00 'assumably, less men would go out of their way to see this movies compared to women'
I think most people go to a movie not because it's main characters are played by their gender but because it's a great movie.
I didn't watch Captain Marvel because it's main character is played by a woman but because many men and women that I know that watched that movie said it's a bad movie. I watched Joker not because it's played by a man, but because my many people told me it's a great movie
"I think most people go to a movie not because it's main characters are played by their gender but because it's a great movie."
You can think that, but you'd be wrong.
The comment section of this video leaves me speechless. This video talks about the inequalities in the Oscar scene which is not new and yet you still manage to say "Yes but they wouldn't choose a film based on someone's gender or color" First of all in some cases, yes but it's mostly the system that encourages that, and then you complain that some are just nominated for their "diversity" because you just can't stand that the place of white men in the film industry is being questioned. Stop feeling like you're a target as soon as we talk about this kind of subject and try 30 seconds to put yourself in the other person's shoes.
Amen 🙏
@Alsizz, I agree with the video in saying that there is inequality in the oscars, but nowhere throughout does it address the issues with a solution. Master of Movies simply points the finger at the industry, like so many have done before, without offering any cues that may benefit the oscars or how us as a society may come to view inequality for what it is.
It has to be mentioned, that honestly, there aren't that many woman and people of color who are producing films. For years the movie industry was dominated by white men, and only recently have good directors who aren't white men emerged. You can't blame the oscars for selecting white men, when theres mostly white men in the industry to begin with.
But all-in-all, why should we even care? Over time, surly we'll see more and more diversity arise; but why care about it? Race and gender shouldn't even be a factor for individuals to receive awards, but rather, that individuals are given accordingly to their works. If you find that identity should be the driving force in giving awards in society, than you are no better than any alt-right skinhead.
"If you wish to stop racism: stop talking about it."
The argument that needs to be proven is that being a white and male director will lead to biased opinions on women directors and poc directors. Unless that is proven, we shouldn't play identity politics and ask for more women and poc in the selection committee
@@luipe6708 So yes, it's already proved it, I'll let you get information from good sources and then you say that we shouldn't force minorities to have the same opportunities as privileged people in the film industry? Like rly????
@@AAAAAAAAAAHHH410 The argument isn't proven yet. All of these theories look compelling not convincing. Say even if they are, getting underqualified people in the selection group ain't that great. By underqualified I mean addition of more poc merely to balance the number of white and poc directors. It's also racist to say white people can't represent the interests of black people.
Two Words: Awkwafina Snubbed.
I'm a minority and I don't give a fuck about "representation". Just make a good fucking film, don't give a shit who makes it.
Based on much of this comment section, I can tell a lot of people blankety missed the point of the video entirely.
This analysis was spot on and gave exactly the information we need to understand the problem
Today the NBA is dominated by. 1 race. What should we do to make sure European Americans get represntr
That's a really stupid example. Besides the fact that art is subjective and too often people vote for friends or because they think a person or film "deserves" recognition this time around, the NBA has plenty of white people. You're either blind or something worse. All sports leagues are based on merit. A great player, regardless of race, is not being passed over for a player or a specific race.
Well maybe the white men just happened to make the best movie. I can imagine they nominate movies, actors and stuff a based of the movie not the who works on it.
When you think about it whilst looking at these figures... It's actually very worrisome... If the academy only gives out awards to the people of colour when they're playing out menial roles, this needs to be looked at and something must be done. But seing Joaquin Phoenix bombing some major speeches on all the award shows about these topics I'm sure the academy is in for a treat... Amazing video nonetheless.
some eye-opening shit right here wow
Imagine having 30 diversified nominees for a single award just to accomodate everyone.
I'll be frank: complaining for almost 10 minutes about the situation is easy. Start to propose your ideal changes to the process and you will hopefully start to see the difficult part.
Whaaatt?
Honestly, I don't get why there was so much love over Lupita struggling performance and her being the only actress of color that year but when it's erivo who portrays someone who was more a slave but a hero and a leader/ one of the most influential women in American history people wanna say ”of course they would go for the slave performance”.
Ikr...
@@bibaolaitan5189 People need to understand that awards 'Normally' goes to the highest suffering in it + a true story, so without thinking the extreme suffering for a black movie is slavery (or any of the examples in the video), Just when We all get out the cinema of a suffering we go "Damn that was heavy, That actor was so gunuine),,,, It's just the hardest emotion you can imitate, and suffering just has it's spot in everyone's soul.
@@indiscernibleStranger OMG!!!... SO TRUE..
This is actually really insightful and the same guy who does the cool insta posts
it's the electoral college, but for awards
, this is a really good vid, u have an amazing voice and the message is great. My birthday is coming up on March 16th I was wondering if u could do an essay vid sometimes (no rush lol) on my fantasy film I made. It’s about winning the battle of the Soul and overcoming doubts.
U don’t have too lol your vids r already amazing enough, but I reckon you could bring out the deeper layer of my film to the audience.
In the film the main character is being hunted by shadow warriors in the wild after his family is slaughtered, however eventually he learns the shadows are his own fears and doubts brought out against him. He has to fight them. I reckon you could bring out that message. Hope you say yes it would be really cool, keep up your great vids :) The film is called The Kings World:Battle of the Soul on my channel.
So sometimes youtubers do get it wrong
I just want great and powerful movies, which is partly why I’m so tired of people praising Greta Gerwig. I can’t stand that woman’s movies. Hire and nominate better female directors, please!
I think many people in the comments section are missing the point. On the topic of "ignoring the Oscars", yes this is fair. But seeing as though the Oscars are an insight into what Hollywood in general likes, thinks is trendy and thinks is prestigious, I think they are somewhat important. Other than Box Office Numbers, the Oscars are a way to see what Hollywood values. On the other topic of "they should nominate the best films", "it's not about diversity and inclusion", "maybe the white men just made the best stuff", "things shouldn't be nominated/rewarded just because of race". That's a really dangerous president to set.
It's not about being nominated and rewarded just because, it's about what's fair. People that look like me, women and every other race in the industry just want opportunities. That's all we want. And we want to be equal. I've did a whole video on the history of black people at the Oscars and spoiler alert, it ain't equal and white people get far more opportunities than us. I didn't even go into other races or women and that's a whole different experience. Also, last year, almost all of my (and imo the best) favourite films of the year came from POC and women.
I made a whole video on it so I won't discuss it any further but literally, "representation matters" and if the Oscars are the only insight we get into what Hollywood likes and what it finds prestigious, imagine what a little black boy with dreams to be a director thinks about when he sees that no black person has ever won Best Director. Or you could swap it out with a little girl and the seeing that there's only been 1 woman to win the award.
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god..the way some of the comments here are either downright racist or deliberately obtuse.
y'all talked about 'best' and 'quality film' like those things are objective.
OP already mentioned in the video about unconfirmed bias. Women and POCs already have to work twice as hard as their male, white counterparts but it still doesn't guarantee them a chance from these gatekeepers, so how exactly are they supposed to show off their 'best' 'quality works'?
He literally gave y'all facts and figures to show how unbalanced the playing field is but you still wanna talk about 'the most qualified'?
Honestly a bunch of clowns
Also, the fact that Parasite swept the awards does not detract any of the points he made. If anything, this case of 'an exception to the rule' makes his point glaringly poignant.
get a job
No they dont also dont care and didnt asked
Maybe women should make better movies lul