Brilliant, the way you dive into details of Ancient music and we modern people can appreciate it. I personally love Haydn's String Quartets, Piano Sonatas and Symphonies, even more than that of his younger friend.
I think Loki has rightfully earned himself a cult following. My sisters and I both deeply appreciate him and his sharp haircut. Thank you for your brilliant videos such as this, good sir. Your thoughts (and your dog) are always appreciated!
Liszt wasn't an attention seeker, but he was full of energy. The different transitions in his life was not as abrupt as people imagine. For instance, he had resigned as Kapellmeister in Weimar one year before he left Weimar. Actually, he was waiting for Princess Sayn-Wittgenstein to sort out the wedding procedures and I 'am not even sure that he knew in what city the wedding was to take place until some weeks before his 50th birthday (the wedding date).
Nontheless it is very striking that the changes in his life more or less always conicide with him starting a next decade in his life. His "rockstar"-phase started with his 20th Birthday and culminated in him eloping from Paris with a married woman, his years of pilgrimage and extensive touring filled his 30s. Then in his 40's he stopped playing he piano in public completely, became a conductor and concentrated all of his energy into composing. In his 50's he resigned and his religious phase started, quite possibly in no small part initiated by the death of two of his children, he wrote more or less only sacred music, moved to Rome, became an Abbé. Then in his 60's the Bayreuth phase started where he moved closer to his daughter and his son in law Richard Wagner and reconciled with him.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Liszt was famous already as a teenager, but his rockstar phase really started during the late 1830s and was terminated ten years later at the age of 46. But it is true that he was 60 when he started to teach in Budapest.
Simply divine! Didn't know about Liszt's piano version, knew about Tchaikovsky's mozartiana suite. Thank you very much for all your beautiful, highly professional videos. Really appreciate them, especially Mozart.
As usual, excellent analysis of an transcendent piece of music. Like many of my Protestant church-musician brethren, I'm not crazy about the theology of the hymn, i.e. the words (it's essentially a hymn to transubstantiation, which we Protestants have problems with), but the music is other-worldly. It's uncanny how much Mozart could get out of the barest of musical ideas, e.g. the C natural in the tenor on the fourth beat of _latus_ -- so breathtakingly unexpected, and sets up the whole next two bars.
I love stories like these, I've read the biography of Liszt by Raman and it brings me into a whole other world. These people had though lives but they were masters at transmuting it all into arts and hope for the future (something you can't say about todays artists and statesmen)
The world is full of great painters,truly great composers!!great Architects(oh my gawd you must not have a t.v. or have seen your own city or newspaper. )Horowitz and a few other instrumentalists have said this statement outloud. It just tells others they don't know. Pollini knew and understood what few bother to programme. Horowitz went no further thanProkofiev.Did helook at alltheEnglish,French,Russian ,German geniuses of his time.Hardly.
Truly love this channel.I thought DonGiovanni Fantasy was coming. So glad you exposed me to this other LisztianMozart connection.Mozart and Hadyn are more interesting than idea of Mozart and Salieri.Both had enough sense and training to realize Mozart was more gifted.None of Hadyn s opera have become populsr,only 1 of more than 7,the violinconcertinever programmed but the cello concerto is gold. The trios,quartets,symphonies of course. Hadyn no piano quartets,no pianoquinets,but baryton ensembles. Much difference. I need to really discover Hadyn religious music.
i had to take some break at the "recapitulation of the morning walk". i really appreciate both the content and the formula of the channel. both informative and simply putting a smile on my face.
05:30 I'm clearly going to have to research this piece for myself again, because, what I read about this piece's origin was COMPLETELY different. I read, that Mozart had borrowed money from a friend and took a long time to return it. When the money was finally returned, Mozart included a letter of apology in which he dashed of a sketch of the Ave Verum. Rather different to an actual commission ...
Hmm. Because now I’m thinking CPE Bach’s book has a page of crazy town banana pants modulations that are somehow smooth as anything and I know Mozart was a fan
Wonderful video and analysis of the music. Am I the only person not really impressed with Liszt's setting of the Ave Verum, though? I think it makes sense within the piece À La Chapelle Sixtine as it provides contrast to the foreboding feeling of the Misere. It's like the heavens part and the light shines when serene Ave Verum sounds. But as a stand alone piece, this arrangement leaves me wanting.
Thank you. You're right that it makes more sense in À La Chapelle Sixtine. As usual with Liszt, it has a theatrical contrast which magnifies its effect.
I just had a question. I noticed you used the beautiful portraits of Mozart and Liszt by Hadi Karimi. Are Karimi's prints in public domain then? I sure would like his Beethoven for a thumbnail on my music. How did use them? I know nothing aout anything and don't want to get into legal issues. Thanks for these awesome videos so much! Your work is very much appreciated. Thanks if you respond.❤
Is it weird that I like Liszt's B major piano version better? Especially the parts where it goes up into the higher octaves of the piano. It sounds almost music box-esque.
I'll add that Mozart was very much a believer, of that there is no confusion. He wasn't a religious type but he was a true Christian in spirit and truth.
Mozart was born into and raised in a devout Catholic family. He wrote numerous Masses ( including the Great unfinished C minor, as a celebration of his marriage to Constance) and numerous religious works. He seems to have lapsed in his formal Catholic practice, supposedly when he was on his deathbed it was difficult to get priests to attend on him and give him the Last Sacraments. In later life lot of his spiritual satisfaction may have come from Freemasonary .
Yes. I would say that Mozart's music is like a divine gift to humanity. It expresses profound truths about what it means to be a human being, and it manages to explore almost every emotion in a wonderfully authentic and elegant way. The theologian Karl Barth wrote a rather beautiful book about Mozart in which he said, "we should not complicate and spoil the impact of his works by burdening them with those doctrines and ideologies which critics think they have discovered in them...he does not force anything on the listener, does not demand that we make any decisions or take any positions; he simply leaves us free"
The narrative of the historical permutations of the effect of the piece on other composers is very akin an idea Borges' uses in a number of his stories.
Yes, but I'd say they are also quite different: Mozart's piece is apparently simple and elegant, but with a very touching relationship to its text, and beautiful harmonic shifts. Beethoven's is immense and wild, incredibly ambitious and difficult to perform, volcanic in its striving after divinity.
_Cujus latus perforatum_ has an incorrect bass line in the score in the video, for some reason? The text is also odd, _unda fluxit cum sanguine_ surely should be _unda fluxit et sanguine._
@@themusicprofessor You don't sing this piece 2000 times without learning some of it by heart, haha. This was a great video regardless! I had never heard this Liszt amalgamation before and it's utterly fascinating.
In my youth, I must admit that i had somewhat dismissed Mendelssohn as too easy and not original or 'cutting edge' enough. It was my husband who brought me to him by pointing out that one feels simply better after listening to his music
Bet that haircut cost a fortune. My own haircut cost over £1M. I get charged £12 for a haircut and I have on average 150,000 hairs on my noggin so a dog would cost 100 times more 😂
I know it is absolute apostasy, but I am not a big fan of Liszt. I LOVE the Hungarian Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra... and that's about it. I find his solo piano work staggering in its virtuosity, but utterly dull in its musicality (with a few notable exceptions, but only a very few).
@@themusicprofessor I absolutely agree that it is complex and virtuosic. A concert pianist friend of mine, Eugene Alcalay (who passed a few years ago) played it on my piano in my living room for me and a few guests, in a sort of Schubertiade. I was astonishing to watch and hear. But I still didn't *like* it.
Interesting and nicely told story, thank you - but what on earth was that performance at the end? No offence, but it was one of the most mechanical, soulless rendering I've ever heard!
I would argue against Mozart excelling at everything. His sacred music is, looked at as a whole body of work, mediocre. He simply lacked the inner conviction and was too much of a theater man to really get the right vibe for church music. It's also notable that he did not write any sacred music if he didn't have to. As soon as he was away from Salzburg he more or less stopped doing it.
Bear in mind most of Mozart's sacred work was written before his 'mature' years. And while most of that early sacred work doesn't rise to the height of "masterpiece", there are still some powerful gems among them. The lack of sacred work in his latter years was due to a lack of commissions. Mozart was a pragmatist and would scarcely write anything that wasn't going to contribute to his own financial survival. However, contrary to your assertion that " _he did not write any sacred music if he didn't have to_ " -- of the few works he did compose that weren't commissioned, one was a sacred work: The Mass in C minor. An absolute bonafide masterpiece that showed powerful conviction on par with Bach's B minor mass. Of the 3 sacred works he composed in Vienna, all 3 of them are indisputable masterpieces that stand on their own against any other great composer -- even with two of them being unfinished! So yes, Mozart did excel at nearly every genre he composed for; perhaps more so than any other composer.
The Mass in C Minor was started as a promise to himself, or God if you will. A promise he did not keep, because he abandoned it before finishing it. That should tell you enough about his spiritiuality. He was simply not interested in writing church music if he didn't have to. And I wouldn't count the Requiem as him excelling. He did not live to finish it, it remains in incomplete choral sketch, and there are stretches like the "Tuba Mirum" where you can just shake your head at how stupidly inappropriate it is for the text.@@olly8453
Too bad that the Mass in C Minor which you use as a case of him being good at writing sacred music after all can also used against you. He did not finish it because he lost interest. He had promised to write it as an offering after recuparating from illness, but it seems he was not very much interested in holding that promise.@@olly8453
Brilliant, the way you dive into details of Ancient music and we modern people can appreciate it. I personally love Haydn's String Quartets, Piano Sonatas and Symphonies, even more than that of his younger friend.
I think Loki has rightfully earned himself a cult following. My sisters and I both deeply appreciate him and his sharp haircut. Thank you for your brilliant videos such as this, good sir. Your thoughts (and your dog) are always appreciated!
And your comment is much appreciated too! Thank you. I'll pass on your kind thoughts to Loki.
I can listen to you talk about Mozart and Haydn for hours. Thank you for the fantastic videos.
Liszt wasn't an attention seeker, but he was full of energy. The different transitions in his life was not as abrupt as people imagine. For instance, he had resigned as Kapellmeister in Weimar one year before he left Weimar. Actually, he was waiting for Princess Sayn-Wittgenstein to sort out the wedding procedures and I 'am not even sure that he knew in what city the wedding was to take place until some weeks before his 50th birthday (the wedding date).
Nontheless it is very striking that the changes in his life more or less always conicide with him starting a next decade in his life.
His "rockstar"-phase started with his 20th Birthday and culminated in him eloping from Paris with a married woman, his years of pilgrimage and extensive touring filled his 30s. Then in his 40's he stopped playing he piano in public completely, became a conductor and concentrated all of his energy into composing. In his 50's he resigned and his religious phase started, quite possibly in no small part initiated by the death of two of his children, he wrote more or less only sacred music, moved to Rome, became an Abbé. Then in his 60's the Bayreuth phase started where he moved closer to his daughter and his son in law Richard Wagner and reconciled with him.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Liszt was famous already as a teenager, but his rockstar phase really started during the late 1830s and was terminated ten years later at the age of 46. But it is true that he was 60 when he started to teach in Budapest.
Loki is looking very smart! 🐶❤
Simply divine! Didn't know about Liszt's piano version, knew about Tchaikovsky's mozartiana suite. Thank you very much for all your beautiful, highly professional videos. Really appreciate them, especially Mozart.
It's beautiful that art can be like scientific research, building off each other to discover further down the path.
Love the assistant! Great video, so useful, thank you and best regards from Argentina!
I think most of us feel how perfectly it is constructed, but you have explained how and why it has its the effect it does. Thanks
Sir, your channel is the only one so far, where those loathsome unskippable double commercials are worth bearing.
This is such a great channel. I always learn so much but your passion and energy really drive the output here. Cheers to you!
Love your channel! Engaging, informative, funny. I also love Mozart and am very excited whenever you post videos about him.
I love this channel! Keep making great content like this!
As usual, excellent analysis of an transcendent piece of music. Like many of my Protestant church-musician brethren, I'm not crazy about the theology of the hymn, i.e. the words (it's essentially a hymn to transubstantiation, which we Protestants have problems with), but the music is other-worldly.
It's uncanny how much Mozart could get out of the barest of musical ideas, e.g. the C natural in the tenor on the fourth beat of _latus_ -- so breathtakingly unexpected, and sets up the whole next two bars.
What a wonderful music lesson! Thanks so much!
Beautiful! Critically informative and moving in equal measure.
This is a wonderful music class and video!
You are a true inspiration. I was we had a teacher like you at my school!
That would have been dangerous for me. I would have flunked out on purpose da capo ad infinitum 🙃
Such interesting storytelling!
Your Latin pronunciation is really good! And what beautiful music, masterfully explained and played.
I love stories like these, I've read the biography of Liszt by Raman and it brings me into a whole other world.
These people had though lives but they were masters at transmuting it all into arts and hope for the future (something you can't say about todays artists and statesmen)
There are still a few good artists around!
Raman is full of errors and incomplete reportage. Check Anthony Newman.
The world is full of great painters,truly great composers!!great Architects(oh my gawd you must not have a t.v. or have seen your own city or newspaper. )Horowitz and a few other instrumentalists have said this statement outloud. It just tells others they don't know. Pollini knew and understood what few bother to programme. Horowitz went no further thanProkofiev.Did helook at alltheEnglish,French,Russian ,German geniuses of his time.Hardly.
Truly love this channel.I thought DonGiovanni Fantasy was coming. So glad you exposed me to this other LisztianMozart connection.Mozart and Hadyn are more interesting than idea of Mozart and Salieri.Both had enough sense and training to realize Mozart was more gifted.None of Hadyn s opera have become populsr,only 1 of more than 7,the violinconcertinever programmed but the cello concerto is gold. The trios,quartets,symphonies of course. Hadyn no piano quartets,no pianoquinets,but baryton ensembles. Much difference. I need to really discover Hadyn religious music.
Truly appreciate this , thank you ❤
Vert interesting - and a lovely piano piece as a result!
i had to take some break at the "recapitulation of the morning walk". i really appreciate both the content and the formula of the channel. both informative and simply putting a smile on my face.
05:30 I'm clearly going to have to research this piece for myself again, because, what I read about this piece's origin was COMPLETELY different. I read, that Mozart had borrowed money from a friend and took a long time to return it. When the money was finally returned, Mozart included a letter of apology in which he dashed of a sketch of the Ave Verum. Rather different to an actual commission ...
Hmm. Because now I’m thinking CPE Bach’s book has a page of crazy town banana pants modulations that are somehow smooth as anything and I know Mozart was a fan
CPE Bach certainly knew how to modulate.
Wonderful video and analysis of the music. Am I the only person not really impressed with Liszt's setting of the Ave Verum, though? I think it makes sense within the piece À La Chapelle Sixtine as it provides contrast to the foreboding feeling of the Misere. It's like the heavens part and the light shines when serene Ave Verum sounds. But as a stand alone piece, this arrangement leaves me wanting.
Thank you. You're right that it makes more sense in À La Chapelle Sixtine. As usual with Liszt, it has a theatrical contrast which magnifies its effect.
I just had a question. I noticed you used the beautiful portraits of Mozart and Liszt by Hadi Karimi. Are Karimi's prints in public domain then? I sure would like his Beethoven for a thumbnail on my music. How did use them? I know nothing aout anything and don't want to get into legal issues. Thanks for these awesome videos so much! Your work is very much appreciated. Thanks if you respond.❤
I believe some images are in the public domain.
@@themusicprofessor Ok thanks!
Thad dog is the professor here !🤣
Do agree about 'development' section. said that sixty years ago. Compact sung sonata.
Love the history and theory plus bonus dog comments!
Thank you for the video! I heard though that the story of Mozart and Allegri's Miserere was a later myth.
No - the Miserere that we have now is different from the one Mozart heard, but he did write it down and the pope did give him a medal for it.
Hove you done the Mozart "Epistle Sonatas"?
Is it weird that I like Liszt's B major piano version better? Especially the parts where it goes up into the higher octaves of the piano. It sounds almost music box-esque.
I agree that it's an inspired transcription!
Lovely commentary. 12:53 The Bass part was copied wrong for 3 bars and a beat.
Yes, there seems to be an error there. Well spotted.
I'll add that Mozart was very much a believer, of that there is no confusion. He wasn't a religious type but he was a true Christian in spirit and truth.
Mozart was born into and raised in a devout Catholic family. He wrote numerous Masses ( including the Great unfinished C minor, as a celebration of his marriage to Constance) and numerous religious works. He seems to have lapsed in his formal Catholic practice, supposedly when he was on his deathbed it was difficult to get priests to attend on him and give him the Last Sacraments. In later life lot of his spiritual satisfaction may have come from Freemasonary .
Yes. I would say that Mozart's music is like a divine gift to humanity. It expresses profound truths about what it means to be a human being, and it manages to explore almost every emotion in a wonderfully authentic and elegant way. The theologian Karl Barth wrote a rather beautiful book about Mozart in which he said, "we should not complicate and spoil the impact of his works by burdening them with those doctrines and ideologies which critics think they have discovered in them...he does not force anything on the listener, does not demand that we make any decisions or take any positions; he simply leaves us free"
@@themusicprofessor Couldn't agree more.
The narrative of the historical permutations of the effect of the piece on other composers is very akin an idea Borges' uses in a number of his stories.
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quite a lot similarities between Ave Verum and LvB's Missa Solemnis ??
Yes, but I'd say they are also quite different: Mozart's piece is apparently simple and elegant, but with a very touching relationship to its text, and beautiful harmonic shifts. Beethoven's is immense and wild, incredibly ambitious and difficult to perform, volcanic in its striving after divinity.
_Cujus latus perforatum_ has an incorrect bass line in the score in the video, for some reason?
The text is also odd, _unda fluxit cum sanguine_ surely should be _unda fluxit et sanguine._
Yes, well spotted.
@@themusicprofessor You don't sing this piece 2000 times without learning some of it by heart, haha.
This was a great video regardless! I had never heard this Liszt amalgamation before and it's utterly fascinating.
The more I listen to Mendelssohn the more I think he was the greatest. Mind you I think that when I listen to all the greats.
He's terrific
In my youth, I must admit that i had somewhat dismissed Mendelssohn as too easy and not original or 'cutting edge' enough.
It was my husband who brought me to him by pointing out that one feels simply better after listening to his music
Bet that haircut cost a fortune. My own haircut cost over £1M. I get charged £12 for a haircut and I have on average 150,000 hairs on my noggin so a dog would cost 100 times more 😂
I know it is absolute apostasy, but I am not a big fan of Liszt. I LOVE the Hungarian Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra... and that's about it. I find his solo piano work staggering in its virtuosity, but utterly dull in its musicality (with a few notable exceptions, but only a very few).
The Sonata in B minor is one of the most astonishing achievements of the Romantic era.
@@themusicprofessor I absolutely agree that it is complex and virtuosic. A concert pianist friend of mine, Eugene Alcalay (who passed a few years ago) played it on my piano in my living room for me and a few guests, in a sort of Schubertiade. I was astonishing to watch and hear. But I still didn't *like* it.
Interesting and nicely told story, thank you - but what on earth was that performance at the end? No offence, but it was one of the most mechanical, soulless rendering I've ever heard!
I would argue against Mozart excelling at everything. His sacred music is, looked at as a whole body of work, mediocre. He simply lacked the inner conviction and was too much of a theater man to really get the right vibe for church music. It's also notable that he did not write any sacred music if he didn't have to. As soon as he was away from Salzburg he more or less stopped doing it.
Bear in mind most of Mozart's sacred work was written before his 'mature' years. And while most of that early sacred work doesn't rise to the height of "masterpiece", there are still some powerful gems among them.
The lack of sacred work in his latter years was due to a lack of commissions. Mozart was a pragmatist and would scarcely write anything that wasn't going to contribute to his own financial survival. However, contrary to your assertion that " _he did not write any sacred music if he didn't have to_ " -- of the few works he did compose that weren't commissioned, one was a sacred work: The Mass in C minor. An absolute bonafide masterpiece that showed powerful conviction on par with Bach's B minor mass. Of the 3 sacred works he composed in Vienna, all 3 of them are indisputable masterpieces that stand on their own against any other great composer -- even with two of them being unfinished!
So yes, Mozart did excel at nearly every genre he composed for; perhaps more so than any other composer.
The Mass in C Minor was started as a promise to himself, or God if you will.
A promise he did not keep, because he abandoned it before finishing it.
That should tell you enough about his spiritiuality.
He was simply not interested in writing church music if he didn't have to.
And I wouldn't count the Requiem as him excelling. He did not live to finish it, it remains in incomplete choral sketch, and there are stretches like the "Tuba Mirum" where you can just shake your head at how stupidly inappropriate it is for the text.@@olly8453
Disagree completely with wagnerian!!! Totally agree with olly!!!
Too bad that the Mass in C Minor which you use as a case of him being good at writing sacred music after all can also used against you. He did not finish it because he lost interest. He had promised to write it as an offering after recuparating from illness, but it seems he was not very much interested in holding that promise.@@olly8453
He wrote only a few Masses, but they're masterpieces.
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