@@alangietz9843he does but giving other interpretations makes it more interesting. I don't doubt musashi can just speed blitz them w high ball but that would just be boring.
@@SeoseupainaotivesseidoemboraTrue, imagination plays a big part in Baki but the difference is the power from those imaginations actually manifest like when Baki started and earthquake with his imaginary Mantis, whereas it’s confirmed the Demon slayer elements aren’t really there not to mention the kid who could actually see what Baki was imagining so in Baki even tho it’s stupid and nonsensical it’s definitely more real than Demon Slayer element effects
Right but Tokugawa still keep his clone body So there's possibilities the author will brought him back to life by using the same ritual to summon his soul again
@@danielclark653 Baki didn't technically win because Musashi wasn't trying to kill him Motobe also admitted that the Musashi he fought wasn't trying to kill him as well.
My favorite thing about Musashi is that he didn't know if his "Twin Swords Under Heaven" (aka his true Sword-less Style where he uses his hands as swords) was ready to be used or not becuse he was too good at fighting and he just insta-slapped everyone until he tested it against Yujiro.
Thank you Thank you Thank you for being as objectively unbiased as possible. There's so many communities that highball or over interpret certain statements from their favorite media.
The cockroach tackle from Baki is 0 to 168mph in .01 ms ; that speed ends up being Mach 21895 or about 2.5% the speed of light. This was in Son of Ogre Yujiro reacted to that tackle in the second use of it. Musashi rushed up on Yujiro and he couldn’t react. So there’s that. In addition Muzan one of the strongest in the verse could not out pace an explosion; explosions like the one at the mansion. which explosives particularly solid detonation waves like what could hypothetically have been present top out at Mach 30. IE not Massively Hypersonic The Black lightning is never intercepted or dodged in the manga; that demon doesn’t necessarily scale to his own lightning attack in speed. Kokushibo is tagged by shot gun pellets and the other upper moon got his neck blown off repeatedly by it. Most of the Hashira speed scaling should be within Mach 5 range tops, Muzan has the second best speed feat of the verse blitzing a lower moon which is calculated at Mach 10. The best is Yoriichi the original Sun Breather bullying Muzan. None of the Hashira are at equal level to Muzan while he’s weakened in the final arc let alone his healthy state. So uhh why was this a topic? 😅
@@asmodeusguys4472 sure So it’s acceleration right? (V(f)-V(i))/time V(f)= final velocity V(i)= initial velocity Baki’s acceleration 168mph-0/.01 ms I got my answers in ft/s^2 using some handy online calculators 24640001 ft/s^2 Speed of sound is a constant, however a sonic boom is caused when an object reaches those speeds so we understand how fast sound is comparatively we will have a comparison item acceleration at the speed of sound, assuming it was at zero just the same as Baki, we will have its final velocity be the speed of sound in meters per second, its time in change will be 1 second so we understand what sort of acceleration is similar to breaking the speed of sound 343meters per second-0/1 second This gives us 1125.3ft/s^2 Divide Baki’s result over the example result 24640001/1125.3= 21896.384 this would be the relative Mach number of Baki’s acceleration; Now 21896.384 is a big Mach number , the speed of light as a Mach number is 874030. Divide our relative Mach by speed of light’s Mach number 21896.384/874030= 0.0251547… Rounded it’s 2.5% roughly. I think I mistyped before with the 21985, it should be ≈ Mach 21986. However Yujiro could react to Baki’s acceleration with his own speed as he was able to brace himself against it the second time, Yujiro did that with his own speed no demon back Musashi could land blows on a Yujiro who was trying given he had his demon back out too. And if you consider Motobe’s concerns valid, Musashi would have killed Yujiro.
@@TheYulverick First of all you dummy, in baki if you had more skill than your Opponant you would be faster regardless and ingnore the speed gap, even yujroo stated jf you had a higher martial sense or skill even at a snail Pace it be fast and baki follow that with his cockroach tackle dummy
I would disagree that Pickle out-stats Baki. It's heavily implied Pickle cheated by resorting to the Aikido technique Yujiro used on him, implying Baki was stronger. Pickle is at best stronger than Base Yujiro, and Yujiro is way stronger two arcs later when he fights Musashi.
I do not disagree idk if I implied that or was referencing their last little bout where it was physicals only but yeah Musashi scales to a stronger Yujiro.
@@ThunderGodTG Yeah, Baki actually was overpowering Pickle in their final fight, so Pickle pulled a move on him. And then Yujiro dominated a stronger Baki. Pickle got cliffed immediately. Edit: Bear in mind, this is implied but not totally confirmed.
I don’t think so, as Pickle using Aikido is a direct parallel to Yujiro’s prior use of Aikido against Pickle. It’s because he wasn’t confident in his own abilities to definitely overpower with brute force, that he used it in the contest of strength. Not that he couldn’t have won with brute force. As we know Yujiro could’ve used the demon back against pickle, but he chose the easier way to win using a technique. Same with Pickle, he was afraid of losing that he chose the easiest path to victory. Not to mention in the Musashi arc they still emphasize how hard his muscles and bones are to cut, while Baki in the arc still felt Musashi’s mental cuts going right through him. Even with demon back the durability and density of his bones and muscles in the limbs and head isn’t going to increase.
Im not defending demon slayer but i hate when people use sound attacks as anti speed feats Unless you know the opponent uses sound YOU HAVE NO WAY OF DODGING IT BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WTF THEY DOING Ex: pain v jiraiya Or kid lee vs sound ninja you wouldn’t know until it hits has nothing to do with your speed unless you can see sound waves
Baki's characters have weird feats, yujiro can be pierced by needles, swords and punches who don't produce a shockwave bigger than a grenade but you tell he he is surviving missiles? It soudns more like he evaded them. Hannayama surviving bullets exploding on his mouth but a shot by the same bullet can pierce his knee? A stronger bodypart btw.
Baki's scaling is very hyperbolic and contradictory. Yuujiro never dodged lightning, that was Hanayama's imagination that he could but no confirmation he can do that. Especially durability. Pickle can hurt by 9mm, get knocked down by a Truck. Baki broke his back with a 2 storey fall and Biscuit Oliva himself says that no one can survive a fall from a skyscraper, even Baki post Oilva says he would die along side Yuujiro when they fall from a building. Meanwhile Akaza falls like the height of multiple skyscrapers with Zero damage in IF.
Fun fact, Demon Slayer AP (and by extension durability) can actually get way higher than then Building level. To explain, if you look for it on the VS Battles wiki, if you look up calculations on Gyutaro's final explosion, you will find the attack ranging a good bit, from 9.535 Tons (so Large Building level) all the way up to 7.641 Kilotons (So Town level). This should be something all of the Hashira should scale to, since Tengen (the 2nd weakest Hashira in my opinion) can survive being right next to the explosion while heavily poisoned and he would only going to die as a result of poison instead of the injuries the explosion caused to him, and if Rui's claim of his neck being more durable than his red threads is anything to go by, then a Demon Slayer being able to even slightly cut a Demon's neck should put a Slayer's AP a bit above a Demon's or close to it (and note that Tengen could cut into Gyutaro's neck when he got the chance, and Shinobu's stabs could pierce Doma's neck, a far more powerful Demon). Then there is the Demon Slayer Mark, which is a 100 times boost, a multiplier we get based on Tanjiro saying he needed 100x his normal strength to decapitate Gyutaro and considering how much weaker he is than Gyutaro, I would say that his is an accurate multiplier to use on a Slayer's stats. As a result, using the lowball for Gyutaro's explosion, the Base Hashira should all have Large building level AP based on Tengen and Shinobu, with the possibility of reaching into City Block since Base Mitsuri and everyone around at that time thought she could decapitate Zohakuten, a more powerful Demon than Gyutaro and thus, have greater neck durability than Gyutaro and his explosion's AP (and fun fact, even when hit by the scream and stopping her attack, Mitsuri still ended up cutting Zohakuten's neck enough to make him bleed). For the Marked Hashira, times the 9.535 Tons by 100 to get 953.5 Tons of AP, giving them Multi-City Block levels of power, maybe even reaching into Small Town levels of based on Base Mitsuri having the believed ability to decapitate Zohakuten. Using the high ball though, then the Base Hashira should all have 7.641 Kilotons of AP and then for the Marked Hashira will get a 100 times boost for 764.1 Kilotons of AP, making their slashes Large Town level.
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To me, it just seems like sound-based attacks aren't consistent in any series. Characters who scale WAY above the IRL speed of sound are always getting tagged by sound-based attacks. It's like shonen / comics treat sound as... just VAGUELY slower than lightning - maybe a difference of 2 to 5 times.
@@ThunderGodTG I love you gang fr your vids bring me so much happiness reliving my favorite anime and re visiting debate topics, it helps more than you know watching one of your vids just to get away from shi sometimes keep up the grind bro you’re INCREDIBLE
So basically Musashi if he takes the fight seriously, chops the Hashiras into mince meat because the strongest hashira Gyomei doesn't even scale above Pickle😂
Gonna be honest here, Baki is very weird to scale, the Universe sometimes tries to ground itself in reality with statements like the one from Oliver saying no one could survive a fall from a skyscraper, Hanayama getting seriously injured by regular guns or bakis cockroach dash only working because its faster than the .5 seconds it takes for someone to respond and then stating baki is around 170 mph, putting Baki characters reaction time around the .5 seconds, like Yujiro himself just straight up says thats the limit and his only way to avoid it is to read Bakis intent and act before he does. And seeing how both him and Musashi got hit the first time baki used the cockroach dash and someone like Oliver can get hurt by some regular police officer with a Katana, any verse that can slice them in under .5 seconds just straight up wins
Musashi won't have much nice time fighting the hashira and maybe would actually lose. Mitsuri is the slowest amongst the hashira but she was not only capable of moving but also was capable of intercepting sound and lightening based attacks in her base form. Doesn't matter if it's real or fake those are generated form an uppermoon moon who don't only have devoured hundreds of humans but also has high quantity of muzan blood, if said its sound and lightening based ability it is0p going to be as fast as the said element as blood demon arts are not related to one's rank or strength , the rank only factors to how much one can use its fullest potential as even nakime had a far better demon art than kokushibo but is only uppermoon four. Those are as strong and fast as a sound or thunder based ability only that he just is uppermoon four in the ability of using it. And there are many more feats like muichiro casually slashing um4's neck which was covered with scales as strong as diamond, rengoku being capable as fast as a train but was just his average high speed. Sanemi being capable of creating a wind tornado with his first form and many more... Demon slayers fights supernatural in regular basis unlike baki character who charge up and attack normal armed force doesn't matter how strong technology they have if they are not fast enough to use it, it's as strong as a regular sword infront of the strong force. Don't compare hashiras who has reached their true potential and surpassed it in a short amount of their lifespan with old man who basically has spent his whole life seeking a strong opponents and even then they would actually need to be totally serious to even scratch them. As even a weak demon slayer can perform total concentration which in a way gives slayers the ability to predict an opponents movement even when they may not be capable of reacting to it.
The hashiras have this in the bag,a single marked one is enough, mitsuri, tanjiro and nezuko were dodging lightning attacks from upper moon 4,this should easily put them on par with baki verse top tiers if not straight up above them, upper moon six destroyed the entertainment district with his final attack, and we see muichiro the mist hashira easily defeat upper moon five after getting Marked, people like to put yujiro above demon slayer cus he seemingly stopped an earthquake which is debatable in whether he actually did it, and even if he did,the earth quake itself isn't that powerful,it didn't destroy a single thing, just made the ground tremble a little bit that's it,the wind hashira is honestly enough for mussashi, your building level scaling for the hashiras is just poor scaling,they can easily dodge lightning, while that is considered an high tier feat in baki,a single hashira is enough,baki fans shouldn't cry too much.
Breathing techniques may give the ilusionary effect of elements because they are meant to be styles representing the flow of the elements, baki itself has its own forms of imitation with baki his animal style and basically Musashi spamming his imitation slash. But just like how Musashi's imitation slash has a feeling of slashing an opponent, demon slayer possess that to but unlike imitation slash mimicking a slashes damage and pain feeling some breathing have completely real physical effect such as sanemi capable of creating a wind hurricane with his first form with each wind being actual wind slashes that cuts opponents as seen in his mission when he first time witnessed infinity castle, zenitsu being capable of shaking the earth and air even without moving as shown during the spider demon arc and it was real vibration that caused a small earthquake in the small area he was fighting and was so strong it explodes the ground through the vibration and with his movements him being capable sound similar to thunderbolt sound, or tengen using an similar version of thunder breathing his sound breathing which uses thunder breathing's effect to its maximum as he is capable of creating explosion with each slash even when he is clearly not using his beads to create explosion or tanjro using sun breathing being capable of burning daki's sash with seer force itself. This imitation possess actual effects even water breathing possess its own effect such as even slash through water breathing possess wind current the replicates the movement of water, the stronger the user the faster his techniques would be and the more actual the techniques would physically feel as the winds accompanying the sword moves according to the users movement unintentionally mimicking the elements movements and the feeling with being hit with the said element.
He was messing around in baki. He is in a world full of peace to him where they all have food and no mass peasants starving. He doesnt have to follow a lord or anything. He wasnt trying but was having fun. If he did take it seriously.. with another sword user he wouldnt mess around but go fo the kill right away. He fights baki characters cause if their love for fighting itself out of respect. If its a sword duel.... he would turn into a different beast, one might say he was even messing around with Yujiro and was about to get serious until the fight was interrupted.
11:24 this mistranslation will haunt demon slayer for the rest of eternity i swear. what the author meant is that specifically giyuus 11th form (dead calm) doesn’t literally summon an ocean around him. the demon slayers don’t produce literal flames or water, it is simply that they create manifestations of flames or water with the same properties and visual form. people typically use this mistranslation to downplay demon slayer characters, but there are cases where the breathing styles are displayed to be real, such as tanjiro using a water breathing form as a projectile to cut down a tree in season one, or gyokko (upper five) being lost and confused in muichiros mist during season three before being beheaded.
I was unaware of this you wouldn’t happen to have the original Kanji for this? Or just a source showcasing it? I’ll make a pinned comment correcting this as well although I think most people probably could have inferred a lot of what was said here but, I do appreciate the clarification
Its one of those moments the author should've jusr worded it differently. Yeah theres thr mistranslation but I do think they couldve used a different descriptions
This will be debated for the rest of time 😂, I've seen arguments for both side and it's gotten to the point where I just don't care. I think it makes the power system much cooler if they are actually summoning the elements.
@@Rdc_Dom I mean, in that case, it's just like "Oh. Creating elements through swords. Never seen that before. 😑" I'd say it just being a visual is cooler, since it makes the moments where they _do_ physically affect the world around them in an elemental capacity (like Zenitsu's clothes catching fire when using his 7th form) stand out that much more.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 let's be real here bro... It's not that good of a power system either way. Whether you think they create the elements or not it's not very unique. It's like a cross between Hamon from JoJo's and bending from avatar. So I think actually generating the elements just adds a bit a flair to at least give the power system something.
Great video, but what do you think about chapter 110 in the Baki dou manga, where musashi states that cutting down a skyscraper would have chipped his sword? I think if that is taken literally his cutting power would be much lower than stated.
It’s def possible although Musashi def scales higher than his blade which does have a set durability clearly. He also just says it would have chipped the blade and not broken it so it would def still be in line with all his scaling.
@@ThunderGodTG you could just leave the otsutsuki out of it, they are the main reason it would be a stomp. There are some pretty interesting match ups and the strongest non otsutsuki villain (menma) is often believed to lose against itachi and nagato (which I my self often wonder about)
I like videos where you placed yujiro in a universe and kind of give him the power adequate for that universe and have the character run a gauntlet depending on the arc or place it takes place in
I mean realistically if Yujiro was in any universe with a fighting style/abilities (think ki, haki, spiritual pressure, etc) and he had the building blocks to use them he would be near the top in most universes. Mainly cause if he can see it he pretty well copy it.
Musashi for sure scaled to Yujiro. But not a serious Yujiro. We never really would know how that goes since it was interrupted. I think the point is Yujiro is supposed to come out on top. But show how strong Musashi is, for Baki to scale against. Because Baki hasn't defeated Yujiro yet. Musashi hurt Yujiro. But he was excited, not I'm gonna end you Yujiro. We haven't seen Yujiro pushed that far. So that would be terrifying. Yujiro being pushed to his limits and evolving again. But Musashi could have brought that out of him. Would have been cool to see.
The way the scene is presented he very much scales to serious Yujiro. Yujiro not only concedes ground to Musashi but, activates his Demon Back off rip, with the two just being stated to be peerless. It’s very clear Musashi is the closest fighter aside from Baki to Yujiro.
People using the so called lightning speed feat for mitsuri its really like stupid because the rage hantengu was never shown to summon the lightning from the sky which dodging lightning from 50meters isnt the same as 30km so ds speed calcs might need a new calc
Hey Thundergod, genuine question, have you ever looked into saint seiya before? the power scaling and system is pretty interesting in my opinion and I don't really see many people talk about it
I dont really think yall demon slayer fans understand that baki is jsut another level than demon slayer Yall try to debunk Miyamoto speed by baki using a cockroach dash that travel as the speed of a train which is aeound 168 mph, the thing you dummies need to understand that in baki you regardless of your speed youll still be faster becuase of higher level of skill, even yujiro directly explain that a snail pace is fast if the martial sense or skill is high, he even said regardless of their speed being high if their martial sense or skill is low than he is slow Which means baki cockroach dash dint really count to his speed but his martial sense or his skill to beat Miyamoto speed
Yeah before your dumb ass goes around calling people dummies,it really doesn't matter, hashiras are martial masters as well, their entire gimik is skill turning into strength, mussashi really hasn't done anything that puts him above this guys,mitsuri, tanjiro and nezuko were dodging lightning in their fight with upper 4,so they should be able to keep up to out speed Baki verse with this, gyutaro upper 6 destroyed the entertainment district, that's already more impressive than any feat from baki,most hashiras are stronger than gyutaro,so yeah the hashiras sadly makes mussashi mush
Demon Slayer verse is vastly faster but Baki characters won’t get damaged by any katana and most Baki characters one shot hashira and no diff upper moons
There is something that I've been wondering for a few days, and it's during sasuke vs itachi, if itachi didn't hold back, could have sasuke killed him.
I think he'd die pretty quickly if they jumped him... He could probably make it through most of a gauntlet really only struggling towards the end... But i think he could beat any of the Hashira 1v1... Except: if you count Yorichii as like a first generation hashira or something. Musashi in the demonslayer verse would be more on like upper moon 1-3 level i could see him going either way against Akaza or Douma... Kokushibo, Muzan, Yorichii just beat him though.
nahh musashi most definitly beats yoriichi and if he beats yoriichi then with a nichirin sword he also beats all the demons up to muzan, the marked hashira negating musashi's mind reading prediction argument doesnt make sense because mushasi is reading the literal brain neurons responses to someone's brain, like you can't just mask that, a person moves was beacuse of a neurological responses being transmitted to each braincells or smth. even if yorichi and all marked hashira's doesnt let off an intent, their brains still needs to transmit neurological responses in order for the body to move and since that's what he reads then the masking off the intent argument is completely disproven. 🤷♂
@@rvcatibog4092 this video shows the speed of the top tiers of ds, and the calcs were very much similar in speed yoriichi blitzes those calcs in general, he is definitely massively hypersonic / nearly relatavistic
Such a good matchup. I think musashi would win simply coz of the sheer amount of eathquake feats he scales to where as the ds verse is a lot more tame with its feats
You completly forgot to mention their red blade who can literally slow down the regen speed and destroys the cells of the upper moons and Muzan who can regen almost instantly so imagine what it would do to a human... When you take this into account, the Hashira more than likely takes the dub.
i mean it'd turn his blade into a red blade as well and seeing how he's a baki character he probably wouldn't have an issue holding it since it's whole concept is heat
Musashi was a demon in Baki, it took hell of a lot of plot armor to take him down and Musashi still killed a mf so badly that he got isekaid. 😂
That awesome son of a bitch killed retsu😭
Sent Retsu to Konosuba
Retsu my waifu 😍@@Crease_Bandit
Not too much on Retsu lol
I like how you gave both interpretations instead of just saying musashi stomps
But he does 😎
@@alangietz9843how?
@@alangietz9843he does but giving other interpretations makes it more interesting. I don't doubt musashi can just speed blitz them w high ball but that would just be boring.
Just read the manga and it would make sense why
@@sinnexus857 Baki verse is goofy no point in doing all that
Bro is fighting people PRETENDING to have elemental powers
I mean, the same cam be said about baking characters, or you saying baki actually turn into a triceratops against pickle?
@@Seoseupainaotivesseidoembora he does with his imagination
@@SeoseupainaotivesseidoemboraTrue, imagination plays a big part in Baki but the difference is the power from those imaginations actually manifest like when Baki started and earthquake with his imaginary Mantis, whereas it’s confirmed the Demon slayer elements aren’t really there not to mention the kid who could actually see what Baki was imagining so in Baki even tho it’s stupid and nonsensical it’s definitely more real than Demon Slayer element effects
@@Seoseupainaotivesseidoembora baking
lol it reminds me of that one spongebob episode, "imaaagintaaation"
If he cant he just needs pp training then he negs the verse
AR manga enjoyers assemble
@@ThunderGodTG yessir
Bro will take on the whole verse if he does some pp training
Considering no other character than yujiro could have beat him and it took the author to write his ass back to sleep... yeah musashi is no joke lol
Right but Tokugawa still keep his clone body
So there's possibilities the author will brought him back to life by using the same ritual to summon his soul again
I mean, Baki technically did and so did Motobe. You’re 100% correct though Mushashi is far from a pushover.
@@danielclark653
Baki didn't technically win because Musashi wasn't trying to kill him
Motobe also admitted that the Musashi he fought wasn't trying to kill him as well.
My favorite thing about Musashi is that he didn't know if his "Twin Swords Under Heaven" (aka his true Sword-less Style where he uses his hands as swords) was ready to be used or not becuse he was too good at fighting and he just insta-slapped everyone until he tested it against Yujiro.
Nah bro is actually my fucking Goat I can’t stress how cool he is man
was definitely not expecting a baki v demon slayer today it’s lit
Everyone gangsta until Musashi copies their breathing styles and sword skills 💀🙉
I’m sayin
Stand proud ThunderGod, you have cooked
Does he cook because he’s thundergod or is he thundergod because he cooks?
At least one thundergod can cook, smh R.I.P Kashimo
Musashi ANNIHILATES them. Musashi _directly_ matches Yujiro................. _Yujiro_ guys
You know.. I think we're all asking the wrong questions here, the Real Big question: Is That Can HERCULE(From Dragon Ball Z) Solo Demon Slayer.
Probably not
Probably.
Absolutely
Hercule dodged point blank gun fire so maybe
Also tanked a hit from a solar system destroying bug android
And u forgot gyutaro destroyed a town and .uzan making a earth quake weakend
YOOO!!!! My favorite Baki youTuber!
Could ThunderGod survive his favorite anime?
Bro asking me if I can solo rent a girlfriend
@@ThunderGodTGlmao bruh
@@ThunderGodTGBruh, you could've said Steins;Gate.😢
in short: yes he does, it's stated that he is more into surprise attacks that alone is taking out all of the hashiras
Fire matchup tbh hahah really interested in ur take
bro real musashi won a 1 vs 70 mid slayer has nothing on this goat
Thank you Thank you Thank you for being as objectively unbiased as possible. There's so many communities that highball or over interpret certain statements from their favorite media.
Hey I appreciate that 😅🙏🏻
The cockroach tackle from Baki is 0 to 168mph in .01 ms ; that speed ends up being Mach 21895 or about 2.5% the speed of light. This was in Son of Ogre
Yujiro reacted to that tackle in the second use of it.
Musashi rushed up on Yujiro and he couldn’t react. So there’s that.
In addition Muzan one of the strongest in the verse could not out pace an explosion; explosions like the one at the mansion. which explosives particularly solid detonation waves like what could hypothetically have been present top out at Mach 30. IE not Massively Hypersonic The Black lightning is never intercepted or dodged in the manga; that demon doesn’t necessarily scale to his own lightning attack in speed.
Kokushibo is tagged by shot gun pellets and the other upper moon got his neck blown off repeatedly by it. Most of the Hashira speed scaling should be within Mach 5 range tops, Muzan has the second best speed feat of the verse blitzing a lower moon which is calculated at Mach 10. The best is Yoriichi the original Sun Breather bullying Muzan. None of the Hashira are at equal level to Muzan while he’s weakened in the final arc let alone his healthy state.
So uhh why was this a topic? 😅
for fun. thats why
@@turzilla as in why was it even a question musashi fucks the whole verse in the ass blindfolded
Dawg, explain the cockroach dash thing.
The math is not mathing.
@@asmodeusguys4472 sure
So it’s acceleration right?
(V(f)-V(i))/time
V(f)= final velocity
V(i)= initial velocity
Baki’s acceleration
168mph-0/.01 ms
I got my answers in ft/s^2 using some handy online calculators
24640001 ft/s^2
Speed of sound is a constant, however a sonic boom is caused when an object reaches those speeds so we understand how fast sound is comparatively we will have a comparison item acceleration at the speed of sound, assuming it was at zero just the same as Baki, we will have its final velocity be the speed of sound in meters per second, its time in change will be 1 second so we understand what sort of acceleration is similar to breaking the speed of sound
343meters per second-0/1 second
This gives us
1125.3ft/s^2
Divide Baki’s result over the example result
24640001/1125.3=
21896.384 this would be the relative Mach number of Baki’s acceleration;
Now 21896.384 is a big Mach number , the speed of light as a Mach number is 874030.
Divide our relative Mach by speed of light’s Mach number
21896.384/874030= 0.0251547…
Rounded it’s 2.5% roughly.
I think I mistyped before with the 21985, it should be ≈ Mach 21986.
However
Yujiro could react to Baki’s acceleration with his own speed as he was able to brace himself against it the second time, Yujiro did that with his own speed no demon back
Musashi could land blows on a Yujiro who was trying given he had his demon back out too. And if you consider Motobe’s concerns valid, Musashi would have killed Yujiro.
@@TheYulverick First of all you dummy, in baki if you had more skill than your Opponant you would be faster regardless and ingnore the speed gap, even yujroo stated jf you had a higher martial sense or skill even at a snail Pace it be fast and baki follow that with his cockroach tackle dummy
He don't get passed sanemi
I would disagree that Pickle out-stats Baki. It's heavily implied Pickle cheated by resorting to the Aikido technique Yujiro used on him, implying Baki was stronger.
Pickle is at best stronger than Base Yujiro, and Yujiro is way stronger two arcs later when he fights Musashi.
I do not disagree idk if I implied that or was referencing their last little bout where it was physicals only but yeah Musashi scales to a stronger Yujiro.
@@ThunderGodTG Yeah, Baki actually was overpowering Pickle in their final fight, so Pickle pulled a move on him. And then Yujiro dominated a stronger Baki. Pickle got cliffed immediately.
Edit: Bear in mind, this is implied but not totally confirmed.
Yeah okay nah I def agree with the pickle cliffing
I don’t think so, as Pickle using Aikido is a direct parallel to Yujiro’s prior use of Aikido against Pickle. It’s because he wasn’t confident in his own abilities to definitely overpower with brute force, that he used it in the contest of strength. Not that he couldn’t have won with brute force. As we know Yujiro could’ve used the demon back against pickle, but he chose the easier way to win using a technique. Same with Pickle, he was afraid of losing that he chose the easiest path to victory. Not to mention in the Musashi arc they still emphasize how hard his muscles and bones are to cut, while Baki in the arc still felt Musashi’s mental cuts going right through him. Even with demon back the durability and density of his bones and muscles in the limbs and head isn’t going to increase.
@@lynnusuk2092 True, but Musashi arguably has durability negation with Swordless Style. So it wouldn't be direct scaling from Baki to Pickle.
Lets go Musashi vid. I've been waiting for so long. Baki, Musashi is just brutality!
man imagine if they had musashi fight kokushibo, one ancient swordsman vs another that has a near perfect regen factor XD
Fire video. Thanks for being cool
Im not defending demon slayer but i hate when people use sound attacks as anti speed feats
Unless you know the opponent uses sound YOU HAVE NO WAY OF DODGING IT BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WTF THEY DOING
Ex: pain v jiraiya
Or kid lee vs sound ninja you wouldn’t know until it hits has nothing to do with your speed unless you can see sound waves
I don’t disagree they’re not consistent with the verse you just kinda do gotta address them since the verse is a lot more tame
Isn't the machine gun a very old version using old Japanese rounds and gun powder?
Baki's characters have weird feats, yujiro can be pierced by needles, swords and punches who don't produce a shockwave bigger than a grenade but you tell he he is surviving missiles? It soudns more like he evaded them.
Hannayama surviving bullets exploding on his mouth but a shot by the same bullet can pierce his knee? A stronger bodypart btw.
Hanayama tanked 10+ bullets which can kill elephant and some of them hurt his head including brain.
Baki's scaling is very hyperbolic and contradictory. Yuujiro never dodged lightning, that was Hanayama's imagination that he could but no confirmation he can do that.
Especially durability. Pickle can hurt by 9mm, get knocked down by a Truck. Baki broke his back with a 2 storey fall and Biscuit Oliva himself says that no one can survive a fall from a skyscraper, even Baki post Oilva says he would die along side Yuujiro when they fall from a building.
Meanwhile Akaza falls like the height of multiple skyscrapers with Zero damage in IF.
Yujiro really dodged lightning, he just knew when lightning will damage him and Baki with Yujiro got zero damage after falling from skyscrapers.
Keep coping akaza would get killed by baki in one on one 😂
Dude akaza have a regeneration factor, no doubt he easily survive that fall.
@@rjproduction486 Akaza has limited regeneration.
Fun fact, Demon Slayer AP (and by extension durability) can actually get way higher than then Building level. To explain, if you look for it on the VS Battles wiki, if you look up calculations on Gyutaro's final explosion, you will find the attack ranging a good bit, from 9.535 Tons (so Large Building level) all the way up to 7.641 Kilotons (So Town level). This should be something all of the Hashira should scale to, since Tengen (the 2nd weakest Hashira in my opinion) can survive being right next to the explosion while heavily poisoned and he would only going to die as a result of poison instead of the injuries the explosion caused to him, and if Rui's claim of his neck being more durable than his red threads is anything to go by, then a Demon Slayer being able to even slightly cut a Demon's neck should put a Slayer's AP a bit above a Demon's or close to it (and note that Tengen could cut into Gyutaro's neck when he got the chance, and Shinobu's stabs could pierce Doma's neck, a far more powerful Demon). Then there is the Demon Slayer Mark, which is a 100 times boost, a multiplier we get based on Tanjiro saying he needed 100x his normal strength to decapitate Gyutaro and considering how much weaker he is than Gyutaro, I would say that his is an accurate multiplier to use on a Slayer's stats.
As a result, using the lowball for Gyutaro's explosion, the Base Hashira should all have Large building level AP based on Tengen and Shinobu, with the possibility of reaching into City Block since Base Mitsuri and everyone around at that time thought she could decapitate Zohakuten, a more powerful Demon than Gyutaro and thus, have greater neck durability than Gyutaro and his explosion's AP (and fun fact, even when hit by the scream and stopping her attack, Mitsuri still ended up cutting Zohakuten's neck enough to make him bleed). For the Marked Hashira, times the 9.535 Tons by 100 to get 953.5 Tons of AP, giving them Multi-City Block levels of power, maybe even reaching into Small Town levels of based on Base Mitsuri having the believed ability to decapitate Zohakuten. Using the high ball though, then the Base Hashira should all have 7.641 Kilotons of AP and then for the Marked Hashira will get a 100 times boost for 764.1 Kilotons of AP, making their slashes Large Town level.
Yo Please Do Can Guts Solo The Hashira!
In other news a mentally ill man cleaved half the earth
While trying to interview him he constantly said "Griffith" nonstop
Further investigation showed that it was his old commander
To me, it just seems like sound-based attacks aren't consistent in any series. Characters who scale WAY above the IRL speed of sound are always getting tagged by sound-based attacks.
It's like shonen / comics treat sound as... just VAGUELY slower than lightning - maybe a difference of 2 to 5 times.
i wonder how musashi vs yoriichi would go. both are litteraly godly swordsmen in their verse
Gooning
Ik I asked before but the Baki universe vs Spider-Man (insomniac or not) would be an AMAZING video bro PLEASE 😂
Nah this is a tough ass idea I’m 100% doing thsi
@@ThunderGodTG I love you gang fr your vids bring me so much happiness reliving my favorite anime and re visiting debate topics, it helps more than you know watching one of your vids just to get away from shi sometimes keep up the grind bro you’re INCREDIBLE
Ahh my my man humbled af to hear that real shit 🙏🏻✊🏻 glad you enjoy the content shit like this keeps me going 🤝🐐
About durability rengoku can't tank concentration tnt he tanked explosion wave
So basically
Musashi if he takes the fight seriously, chops the Hashiras into mince meat because the strongest hashira Gyomei doesn't even scale above Pickle😂
Gonna be honest here, Baki is very weird to scale, the Universe sometimes tries to ground itself in reality with statements like the one from Oliver saying no one could survive a fall from a skyscraper, Hanayama getting seriously injured by regular guns or bakis cockroach dash only working because its faster than the .5 seconds it takes for someone to respond and then stating baki is around 170 mph, putting Baki characters reaction time around the .5 seconds, like Yujiro himself just straight up says thats the limit and his only way to avoid it is to read Bakis intent and act before he does. And seeing how both him and Musashi got hit the first time baki used the cockroach dash and someone like Oliver can get hurt by some regular police officer with a Katana, any verse that can slice them in under .5 seconds just straight up wins
Musashi won't have much nice time fighting the hashira and maybe would actually lose.
Mitsuri is the slowest amongst the hashira but she was not only capable of moving but also was capable of intercepting sound and lightening based attacks in her base form. Doesn't matter if it's real or fake those are generated form an uppermoon moon who don't only have devoured hundreds of humans but also has high quantity of muzan blood, if said its sound and lightening based ability it is0p going to be as fast as the said element as blood demon arts are not related to one's rank or strength , the rank only factors to how much one can use its fullest potential as even nakime had a far better demon art than kokushibo but is only uppermoon four. Those are as strong and fast as a sound or thunder based ability only that he just is uppermoon four in the ability of using it.
And there are many more feats like muichiro casually slashing um4's neck which was covered with scales as strong as diamond, rengoku being capable as fast as a train but was just his average high speed. Sanemi being capable of creating a wind tornado with his first form and many more...
Demon slayers fights supernatural in regular basis unlike baki character who charge up and attack normal armed force doesn't matter how strong technology they have if they are not fast enough to use it, it's as strong as a regular sword infront of the strong force. Don't compare hashiras who has reached their true potential and surpassed it in a short amount of their lifespan with old man who basically has spent his whole life seeking a strong opponents and even then they would actually need to be totally serious to even scratch them. As even a weak demon slayer can perform total concentration which in a way gives slayers the ability to predict an opponents movement even when they may not be capable of reacting to it.
The hashiras have this in the bag,a single marked one is enough, mitsuri, tanjiro and nezuko were dodging lightning attacks from upper moon 4,this should easily put them on par with baki verse top tiers if not straight up above them, upper moon six destroyed the entertainment district with his final attack, and we see muichiro the mist hashira easily defeat upper moon five after getting Marked, people like to put yujiro above demon slayer cus he seemingly stopped an earthquake which is debatable in whether he actually did it, and even if he did,the earth quake itself isn't that powerful,it didn't destroy a single thing, just made the ground tremble a little bit that's it,the wind hashira is honestly enough for mussashi, your building level scaling for the hashiras is just poor scaling,they can easily dodge lightning, while that is considered an high tier feat in baki,a single hashira is enough,baki fans shouldn't cry too much.
Breathing techniques may give the ilusionary effect of elements because they are meant to be styles representing the flow of the elements, baki itself has its own forms of imitation with baki his animal style and basically Musashi spamming his imitation slash. But just like how Musashi's imitation slash has a feeling of slashing an opponent, demon slayer possess that to but unlike imitation slash mimicking a slashes damage and pain feeling some breathing have completely real physical effect such as sanemi capable of creating a wind hurricane with his first form with each wind being actual wind slashes that cuts opponents as seen in his mission when he first time witnessed infinity castle, zenitsu being capable of shaking the earth and air even without moving as shown during the spider demon arc and it was real vibration that caused a small earthquake in the small area he was fighting and was so strong it explodes the ground through the vibration and with his movements him being capable sound similar to thunderbolt sound, or tengen using an similar version of thunder breathing his sound breathing which uses thunder breathing's effect to its maximum as he is capable of creating explosion with each slash even when he is clearly not using his beads to create explosion or tanjro using sun breathing being capable of burning daki's sash with seer force itself. This imitation possess actual effects even water breathing possess its own effect such as even slash through water breathing possess wind current the replicates the movement of water, the stronger the user the faster his techniques would be and the more actual the techniques would physically feel as the winds accompanying the sword moves according to the users movement unintentionally mimicking the elements movements and the feeling with being hit with the said element.
He was messing around in baki. He is in a world full of peace to him where they all have food and no mass peasants starving. He doesnt have to follow a lord or anything. He wasnt trying but was having fun. If he did take it seriously.. with another sword user he wouldnt mess around but go fo the kill right away. He fights baki characters cause if their love for fighting itself out of respect. If its a sword duel.... he would turn into a different beast, one might say he was even messing around with Yujiro and was about to get serious until the fight was interrupted.
Man if this was a one pice power scale they will get say more speed so it get bliss GG
Its enough that musashi flex his body to scare this kind of p...y no offense really😂
In other news local maniac kills a bunch of swords man
He commented for the reasoning of the murder was : I was bored
Musashi is taking the dub barely but that all goes away once he’s face to face with the goat yoriichi💀
Can u pls do Guts from Berserk instead of Musashi
I would me interested to see as nodt & mask vs the naruto verse
Bark God covering a whole new verse! W Thunder Woof
Musashi would learn the breathing patterns and create his own.
More Baki content please
I don't think Baki logic makes this much sense. It's a theme for a whole another video D:
Could the Baki verse survive the Shibuya incident?
nah bro 💀
WE LOVE BAKI 🔥 🔥
baki's BS + plot armor not even close
He can solo the whole demon slayer universe
Yes
what about musashi vs yoriichi in prime
11:24 this mistranslation will haunt demon slayer for the rest of eternity i swear. what the author meant is that specifically giyuus 11th form (dead calm) doesn’t literally summon an ocean around him. the demon slayers don’t produce literal flames or water, it is simply that they create manifestations of flames or water with the same properties and visual form. people typically use this mistranslation to downplay demon slayer characters, but there are cases where the breathing styles are displayed to be real, such as tanjiro using a water breathing form as a projectile to cut down a tree in season one, or gyokko (upper five) being lost and confused in muichiros mist during season three before being beheaded.
I was unaware of this you wouldn’t happen to have the original Kanji for this? Or just a source showcasing it? I’ll make a pinned comment correcting this as well although I think most people probably could have inferred a lot of what was said here but, I do appreciate the clarification
Its one of those moments the author should've jusr worded it differently. Yeah theres thr mistranslation but I do think they couldve used a different descriptions
This will be debated for the rest of time 😂, I've seen arguments for both side and it's gotten to the point where I just don't care. I think it makes the power system much cooler if they are actually summoning the elements.
@@Rdc_Dom I mean, in that case, it's just like "Oh. Creating elements through swords. Never seen that before. 😑"
I'd say it just being a visual is cooler, since it makes the moments where they _do_ physically affect the world around them in an elemental capacity (like Zenitsu's clothes catching fire when using his 7th form) stand out that much more.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 let's be real here bro... It's not that good of a power system either way. Whether you think they create the elements or not it's not very unique. It's like a cross between Hamon from JoJo's and bending from avatar. So I think actually generating the elements just adds a bit a flair to at least give the power system something.
Great video, but what do you think about chapter 110 in the Baki dou manga, where musashi states that cutting down a skyscraper would have chipped his sword? I think if that is taken literally his cutting power would be much lower than stated.
It’s def possible although Musashi def scales higher than his blade which does have a set durability clearly. He also just says it would have chipped the blade and not broken it so it would def still be in line with all his scaling.
Can you do a vid on how the naruto movie villains would do against the akatsuki?
They would SLAM bro it’d be bad
@@ThunderGodTG you could just leave the otsutsuki out of it, they are the main reason it would be a stomp.
There are some pretty interesting match ups and the strongest non otsutsuki villain (menma) is often believed to lose against itachi and nagato (which I my self often wonder about)
@@ThunderGodTG plus outside for your ranking video, you've not made another video about movie villains.
I really want to see them get some spot light
The guy that slashes with no sword, and almost killed Yujiro
I like videos where you placed yujiro in a universe and kind of give him the power adequate for that universe and have the character run a gauntlet depending on the arc or place it takes place in
I mean realistically if Yujiro was in any universe with a fighting style/abilities (think ki, haki, spiritual pressure, etc) and he had the building blocks to use them he would be near the top in most universes. Mainly cause if he can see it he pretty well copy it.
Musashi vs Yoriichi might be cool
4 days late ⌚️
Musashi for sure scaled to Yujiro. But not a serious Yujiro. We never really would know how that goes since it was interrupted.
I think the point is Yujiro is supposed to come out on top. But show how strong Musashi is, for Baki to scale against. Because Baki hasn't defeated Yujiro yet. Musashi hurt Yujiro. But he was excited, not I'm gonna end you Yujiro. We haven't seen Yujiro pushed that far. So that would be terrifying. Yujiro being pushed to his limits and evolving again. But Musashi could have brought that out of him. Would have been cool to see.
The way the scene is presented he very much scales to serious Yujiro. Yujiro not only concedes ground to Musashi but, activates his Demon Back off rip, with the two just being stated to be peerless. It’s very clear Musashi is the closest fighter aside from Baki to Yujiro.
People using the so called lightning speed feat for mitsuri its really like stupid because the rage hantengu was never shown to summon the lightning from the sky which dodging lightning from 50meters isnt the same as 30km so ds speed calcs might need a new calc
So what are you saying,is she faster or slower than lightning.
Hey Thundergod, genuine question, have you ever looked into saint seiya before? the power scaling and system is pretty interesting in my opinion and I don't really see many people talk about it
Not at all I can def give it a look tho
I dont really think yall demon slayer fans understand that baki is jsut another level than demon slayer
Yall try to debunk Miyamoto speed by baki using a cockroach dash that travel as the speed of a train which is aeound 168 mph, the thing you dummies need to understand that in baki you regardless of your speed youll still be faster becuase of higher level of skill, even yujiro directly explain that a snail pace is fast if the martial sense or skill is high, he even said regardless of their speed being high if their martial sense or skill is low than he is slow
Which means baki cockroach dash dint really count to his speed but his martial sense or his skill to beat Miyamoto speed
Yeah before your dumb ass goes around calling people dummies,it really doesn't matter, hashiras are martial masters as well, their entire gimik is skill turning into strength, mussashi really hasn't done anything that puts him above this guys,mitsuri, tanjiro and nezuko were dodging lightning in their fight with upper 4,so they should be able to keep up to out speed Baki verse with this, gyutaro upper 6 destroyed the entertainment district, that's already more impressive than any feat from baki,most hashiras are stronger than gyutaro,so yeah the hashiras sadly makes mussashi mush
a weird way to say goku solos
Musashi's face pisses me off
It literally took them someone to send his soul back to beat him because he was spanking everyone
My goat was handing out VIP passes to the afterlife
Musashi slams the verse
This is a great video.
Aint this dude in raid shadow legends
Musashi probably blitzes Kokushibo. It would probably take 5+ Hashira at the same time to even begin to have a chance at winning.
Demon Slayer verse is vastly faster but Baki characters won’t get damaged by any katana and most Baki characters one shot hashira and no diff upper moons
There is something that I've been wondering for a few days, and it's during sasuke vs itachi, if itachi didn't hold back, could have sasuke killed him.
Yorrichi claps ?
what is hax
Well if you are comparing him to Baki verse then he is just as strong as yujiro.
If the yuchrio and musashi full strength and the slayer marks that would be a fight worth watching
Considering that his imaginary cuts can cause imaginary pain, all he has to do is do that then actually strike to kill each hashira
I think he'd die pretty quickly if they jumped him... He could probably make it through most of a gauntlet really only struggling towards the end... But i think he could beat any of the Hashira 1v1... Except: if you count Yorichii as like a first generation hashira or something.
Musashi in the demonslayer verse would be more on like upper moon 1-3 level i could see him going either way against Akaza or Douma... Kokushibo, Muzan, Yorichii just beat him though.
nahh musashi most definitly beats yoriichi and if he beats yoriichi then with a nichirin sword he also beats all the demons up to muzan, the marked hashira negating musashi's mind reading prediction argument doesnt make sense because mushasi is reading the literal brain neurons responses to someone's brain, like you can't just mask that, a person moves was beacuse of a neurological responses being transmitted to each braincells or smth. even if yorichi and all marked hashira's doesnt let off an intent, their brains still needs to transmit neurological responses in order for the body to move and since that's what he reads then the masking off the intent argument is completely disproven. 🤷♂
@@rvcatibog4092 this video shows the speed of the top tiers of ds, and the calcs were very much similar in speed
yoriichi blitzes those calcs in general, he is definitely massively hypersonic / nearly relatavistic
@@niten1ryuTop tiers in Baki also are massively hypersonic.
Can u pls make a video about what would happen if yujiro got teleported into jjk and gets access to cursed energy?
Such a good matchup. I think musashi would win simply coz of the sheer amount of eathquake feats he scales to where as the ds verse is a lot more tame with its feats
It’s all fun and games until he fights Yorichi and gets no diffed
But would be able to open a Pickle Jar?
Please make more of these how strong or how powerful is video
8:31 "Blow of flood" 😭
I’ve been hit with 3 comments about this 😭 was this bad YES 😂
Yoriichi vs Musashi
yoriichi would most likely win
8:31
blow of flood
Don’t do me like this bro
Fire video 🔥I thought that you would've talked about Yoriichi at the end 💀
Please do more Demon Slayer content in the future
Appreciate it ✊🏻🔥
Ayo. I just spoiled myself with mamga Giyu. I'm an anime only.
Akaza Vs Raian kure next
Could you do a Yujiro vs any particular verse?
I have a Yujiro vid currently in the works that I think you’ll like
😮Yes, he can
You completly forgot to mention their red blade who can literally slow down the regen speed and destroys the cells of the upper moons and Muzan who can regen almost instantly so imagine what it would do to a human... When you take this into account, the Hashira more than likely takes the dub.
It was excluded as it’s not relevant since Musashi has no regen to speak of
@@ThunderGodTG Gotcha
i mean it'd turn his blade into a red blade as well and seeing how he's a baki character he probably wouldn't have an issue holding it since it's whole concept is heat
Love baki vids from you goat
Yes.
Edit: Nvm, it could go either way.
75% for musashi and 25% for the hashiras
8:30 "Blow of flood" 🔥🔥
Nah this was bad 😭😂