Pog episode bro. Loving the mix of both types of commentary (live+recorded) . In regards to mutagens, it really depends on the colour scheme of your gear therefore MAGMA beats TANZZZZ, I dont think I ever had magma mutagen haha. Nice one BIG UPS
Something that's really nice is when you use it for Scorp dolo methods. Prior to this you had to have a Shadow to consistently outhit the Trident on your alt. Now you can use this staff and a Trident to get insane kill times and more kills for your main. Obviously only good info if you're a main but still I figured I'd share. If you're really grinding and you're doing well on PKers you could easily do a 1k kc day at scorp which is half the rate of the pet.
Long time watcher, maybe first time commenter. Love the vids, especially testing new and interesting ideas, I have always admired your trying things that others would never consider! I have been using Shadow at Kree for a little while now so I was curious about the Sceptre spec there. Just intuitively I thought it would be bad, but after watching this video, I did the math. Obviously, the stats reduction is nice for the Shadow (increases shadow DPS to 8.466 and 7.400 for on and off task, respectively), but the question is in how much time it saves you per kill. If you are using max gear and Shadow, you save just over 1 tick per kill (1.13 vs 1.14 ticks on and off task, respectively) when using a single sceptre spec after accounting for the spec accuracy, the spec damage, and how much time it takes to spec. Even if you are doing 30 kills per hour (which is really pushing it) this saves you max 35 ticks per hour, which isn't enough for another kill. For me, I will continue using Eldritch specs to maintain long trips, but this is a really cool idea and probably the next best spec option!
Nice math but the point is that the kills are in fact faster. But yes if prayer is a significant issue, i agree eldritch would be better. In my case, i just do whole task with prayer leftover, so its different in my case. Also important to note is that the spec itself is a high dps hit since its faster than shadow, enhanced accuracy and damage, so your math didnt factor in the extra dps from that which would save you even more time. And the scepter is insanely cheap, so its more viable for those that might be tight on cash as well. So i'd have to slightly disagree on eldritch being the best thing at gws (for you, sure), but if prayer is not an issue, the scepter is a tier above.
@@qhp_ sure ill just believe you on that, i tend to trust my experience a bit more than dps cals, outside of just getting a general idea since the dps cals gives you a theoretical idea. But i'd say my overall opinions still scepter over eldritch if prayer is not an issue.
my only criticism is that the shadow explodes your magic accuracy, which makes magic defense reduc a lot less useful. Would have been a lot more helpful for some players if you did some testng wth a trident or sang, so people could get an idea of how magic lvl reduction feels without 500 magic accuracy. Cool video though! love seeing lesser known uses for a previously dead item :D
Think bout it this way if shadow gets an improvement than non shadow will get a way bigger improvement. Dont want to drag this video out too long, i do mention this specifics on video
I bought the sceptre instantly when I watched this video and tried it at zulrah with full Ahrims and trident of the swamp and got a new pb pretty quick
I don’t recall the exact numbers. But I heard that on olm mage hand the scepter increases shadow dps by only ~3% while a trident or sang get closer to ~13% more dps. That difference is going to hold true everywhere
@@RiceCup thanks that makes sense. I'm sure these videos take a lot of time to make, and best to keep on the good side of squirrel brained youtube enjoyers.
Hey Iron, You should try using zcb ruby spec at start of zulrah as it always hits 45-50 and i managed to get a 43 sec pb with zcb/bofa. Love the vids btw
going for pbs isn't the same as maintaining faster average kills though. i dont think zcb specing is a bad idea per say but my goal is more to obtain faster average kill times/hour so i dont think zcb would be the play for that. i got pbs basically without trying to go for personal bests, just aiming for kills/hour. like imagine if i did try to pbs, my strategy would be different but my kills/hour would be dramatically lower
Does the special of the accursed sceptre lower the max hit of the tbow? Since it drains the magic level, and the tbow max hit is based of it’s magic offense, right?
Crazy how cheap each shot is too for the charged staff bersion. At only about 175 each. That's less than a Trident of the Swamp and a Sang. Albiet at the cost of some power.
im thinking of getting this on my "mid game" main since its just around 3m and my next upgrades are the 50m + weapons and armor so that will take a while haha, do you think its worthed?
im gonna be honest here bro, i love ur vids and im sure the sceptre is noticeble at arma. i just did a full 187 kill arma task in 1 trip with arma. just camping in 1 corner without sceptre, i get nonstop 20-30 sec kills. so imo not even worth walking under kree. just freeze melee minion and stay in corner worked perfectly for me without tank gear.
Ima need to see some proof my guy. Nonstop 20-30 seconds is a reach. Not to mention dancing doesnt slow down attack speeds at all so it only makes kills easier as you take less attacks/dmg. Scepter just speeds up avg kill times. I was already doing whole task a trip before scepter, but the point is that the avg kill speeds went down.
any tips for a low level iron wanting to get into hunting rev weapons? notably thammarons. I will complete the hard wildy diary but I'm wondering if rev tasks are mandatory at this point for the weapons or if i should just do skulled off task? thanks
At about 02:31 you say that the defence skill affects only really covers ranged and melee, but considering 30% of your magic defense comes from the defence skill (the other 70% coming from your magic skill), it seems like more than just a simplification to say defense doesn't really cover magic. From there, at about 02:46, you say that using a dragon warhammer on bandos will barely affect his magic defence, but that's just straight up false: Using the accursed scepter on Bandos will reduce his magic and defence level both by 15%, resulting in a total magic defence reduction of 15%. The dragon warhammer on the other hand, reduces his defence by 30%, and with magic defence being 30% from regular defence, that's a magic defence reduction of 9%, which is 60% of the effect of using the sceptre's special attack. Sure, 6% adds up and definitely makes a difference, but that's completely inaccurate to say that the dragon warhammer doesn't have much impact on bandos' magic defence, when it still reduces magic defence by over half as much as the sceptre does.
There's a disclaimer on that part for a reason. Itd take way to long to explain that and it wouldnt matter. You don't bring a melee setup to hammer a boss just so you can mage it lol.
I've been using it at barrows because it's funny to use the spec on ahrim, and ether is cheaper than refilling a trident (on a main.) Something about hitting 40s with magic on Ahrim makes me giggle. (given his magic def and chances of splashing.)
@@RiceCup Yeah, feels niche, but now I want one lol. Before when it was only useful in the wildy itself I didn't care haha It's okay though just the way things are in the game, maybe they'll release a pvm version of the spec eventually
@@RiceCup oh alright, from the wiki "also drains the target's Defence and Magic by up to 15%" it sounded like it drains the mage level so i figured it'd affect Tbow dmg. Thanks for the info 👍
no, other specs will still work. its too complicated to explain here. u just cant b2b scepter spec, but others stack based on flat reduction like bgs or current def based on % like dwh
9:13 Actually the Current blowpipe is actually stronger than pre nerfed one when wearing Max range. Less accurate but slightly more strength than before using Ddarts Also which plugin is he using for kill times? Is it Bossing Info , in the plugin hub?
@@RiceCup that makes sense. However, i did a few tests today in regular trios and these were the results(while using tumeken): i felt a difference in accuracy when speced ice demon, skeletal mystics, vespula. Didn’t feel much of a difference at mage hand olm cuz it already smacks there, i would assume trident or sang would perform better but can’t prove it yet. Since the spec doesn’t stack and it’s basically dwh for mage that can be used on different targets i feel like its good in some rooms to get it down faster specially while light bearer exists. Your video covered most of the other content and I love it cuz it is truly genius! I would love to see your input and further testing of this in the future!
@@RiceCup oh. I thought it lowered the magic level of the monster. I guess the specs useful for mage def but most mage def comes from mage level. Thats why Ive gotten it mixed up. Thanks for clarifying, appreciate it
@@jacobknowsgeorgebushdid9119 ppl only kill scorpia for the pet, most content is becoming easyscape tho with all the powercreep put into the game, after new prayer book every1 will be able to do the inferno/tob/phosanis etc too.
@@ludicium2423 i doubt it, even shadow with max gear on task u splash a good amount so dont expect scepter to land with half that gear lol maybe like 20% 30% being optimistic
Do not use this sceptre on akkha... his defence resets almost as fast as you reduce it. Don't believe me? Use monster examine and enjoy wasting 50% for no gain. it's 15% flat against very low defence stats for 50% of your spec. (This would leave me in a pickle on dehydration runs if I needed my keris) Remember, Akkha has almost no defence anyway. It's not worth the change in attack speed and rhythm to make the switch for such infantismal reductions whilst butterflying. A lot of people struggle with flawless butterflying where akkha doesn't change and doesn't switch, adding a pointless sceptre spec to that is just that. pointless. This staves true potential is unlocked as an extremely high accuracy initial spec weapon for every room except akkha. The flat 15% reduction in both supersedes BGS in every single way, especially if running higher invocs where the BGS becomes deadweight. This staff does not require boosts to hit happily on all the bosses. So when starting kephri, pop a spec and quickly switch to your melee whilst getting into postition. with practice you don't lose ticks. It allows for 2 min 30 405 invoc zebaks with magic. Something that most people won't be able to do without the sceptre even if they run 1,000 raids at 405 invoc. It allows 4 min 30 kephris with full charge and overlords and it pretty much removes 0s from the warden on both p3 and p4. I find bringing a brimstone switch advantageous for using this spec as it lets it hit more often whilst giving the fang the accuracy boost to push it over the hit thresh hold for 90% hit chance on kephri at 405 invoc. I don't believe it's worth using more than 1 spec on the obelisk as the HP of the obelisk is low anyway with most people preferring to keris the first batch of damage. You won't be able to do both that and dds the core to its full potential is you burst down both specs. I feel like you could have put a bit more effort covering this sceptre for toa ngl.
Nah its def worth at akkah with butterfly since you are guna stop him from teleing for a long time if you do it right. But with your invos it might not work, but you are only thinking bout it from your own limitations/dehy so and you have to understand that theres many variations of doing toa like groups benefitting massively off 1 spec on those bosses and people with out shadow benefiting alot more from it. Plenty of ways to toa without relying on keris only to heal.Tldr, you have to think beyond how you do toa, this video isnt about you, but the general toa goers, groups and dif invo setups
@@RiceCup I think you showcasing the content doing it solo really should reflect the usage of the staff as you're using it. You're not wrong about my mindset with it in teams, but even in teams it's still not worth it unless you've got a team using tridents or sanguinistis. it's just not worth the cost over better spec weapons if the defence is resetting so quickly. That's why you don't see people using BGS on akkha. This is especially true for people looking to gain MVP within FFAs, especially irons. It is never worth it for an iron to do this unless the iron is happy either splitting or sacrificing as ultimately, that's what using sceptre on akkha does. I'd have added its usefulness in zebak for team raids as quite often on experts you're finding staff users who use it on him. Mentioning that for them could be helpful my brother
@@arcadianrs i did show myself using it on teams too my guy at toa lol. so tbh idk what you're trying to criticize since most of your points was more catered towards your own play style rather than the actual general use of scepter there and being worth in so many scenarios. And again it's worth at akkah, under the right condition as ive mentioned - if u butterfly well and especially if teammates don't have shadow, it's big difference. Majority of toas arent people trying to greed mvps and stuff bro so your point bout ffa mindset is just a niche example of why you wouldn't use it and doesn't take away from its worth in a normal team or many solo setups. but yeh cool i could see it being good at zebak, i just didnt think it'd land much there for it to be worth whereas akkah and warden is super high land rate.
@@RiceCup A lot of the time I forget people still run lower raids etc I've been trapped in WDR hell (Hosted 800 wdr toas) and forget that the WDR standard isn't really standard outside wdr. It's always about the greed via wdr. Personally I've split 4 staves and had 1 solo so I'm plenty rich and honestly, going from what you've said, I might start trying the accursed on those 8 man raids i host at the start to see if I notice any real difference. I believe mathematically speaking, equipping the brimstone does the same thing at akkha over lightbearer if you are a staff user due to the x4 effect within the raid. The staff is really good on zebak man, after posting my initial comment I got a PB for zebak on 405 solos of 2:19 which is blazing speeds, I've not been able to get it faster than 2:45 with bis tbow so idk, could be a niche thing for pulling faster pbs? who knows. I camp brimstone when using the spec tho as it makes a big difference on it being a 0 or not. Zebak has a 1/5 double miss rate which is actually really generous. BGS has a 1/4 double miss rate on those invocs. Gl with your future raids, king.
It depend on what bosses you do more of. For ex. Shadow if doing a lot of raids 3. Both are good at alot of places and competitive. Shadow is more costly to gear up for though
no bp doesnt hit high on high def, its based on regular defence that determines how accurate something like bp, scepters lower both def and magic def, so anything will hit more accurately.
you could but probably not worth cus i rather be specing down the melee hand and save an invent space lol. unless maybe your team is so big that theres leftover specs.
You didn't even mention the fashionscape of the sceptre. I'm getting sick and tired of all these new cool lookin' stuff that makes all my old stuff look dumb.
@@RiceCup hmm I'm looking on the os wiki for magic accuracy (it's on the magic page of the wiki) and it explicitly says magic defense for pvm does not take into account normal defense levels. It says its visible magic level +9 ×(magic defense roll +64) and that magic defense roll is based off of magic level and magic defense bonus. Maybe the wiki is just wrong or out dated on this page. Edited-wrote effective instead of visible in the calculation.
I was just thinking… I bet one of these future Ancient Sceptre Gems upgrades are going to allow you to cast Ancient Magicks every 4 Tics instead of 5… that’d be so sick at manical monkeys lol
@@rws531 no bro just doesn’t know English that well. Wildy is not a word it’s a short form of the full word wilderness which does not have a hard vowel with the i because there is an e following the d. similar change in pronunciation when you say child as opposed to children. He’s just sounds like an idiot, but I guess he gets a pass because English might not be his first language?
nice vid but you said sceptre is great for teams at toa. this might be generally true but it definitely isn't if any of them are running tbow at wardens. It will reduce their accuracy and max hit quite negatively because of tbow's passive effect (scales up w/ enemy magic defense)
on sara u should do menu entry swapper for the melee minion so instead of having to right click for your kills, you can make it so you walk under the minion and just have the option to attack the boss :)
you are without a doubt the gold standard of ironman content
These last few uploads have been fire. Thanks for all the effort you put into testing new gear.
Makes me want to play Iron man but then I remember all the grind and think again so I''l stick to watching yours
Finally someone giving this thing the love it deserves!
8:13 panic buy pure ess. New bp charging method discovered.
Lmaooo
Pog episode bro. Loving the mix of both types of commentary (live+recorded) . In regards to mutagens, it really depends on the colour scheme of your gear therefore MAGMA beats TANZZZZ, I dont think I ever had magma mutagen haha. Nice one BIG UPS
I've been saying people been sleeping on the accursed Sceptre for years
I prefer the look of the tanz helm, but magma definitely looks better with melee gear
Something that's really nice is when you use it for Scorp dolo methods. Prior to this you had to have a Shadow to consistently outhit the Trident on your alt. Now you can use this staff and a Trident to get insane kill times and more kills for your main. Obviously only good info if you're a main but still I figured I'd share. If you're really grinding and you're doing well on PKers you could easily do a 1k kc day at scorp which is half the rate of the pet.
You got the zulrah care package, lol
Really awesome transition at 6:46
9:34 that iron just got clapped by my boy hahaha cant believe I just witness that hahaha gf to your friend!
Long time watcher, maybe first time commenter. Love the vids, especially testing new and interesting ideas, I have always admired your trying things that others would never consider! I have been using Shadow at Kree for a little while now so I was curious about the Sceptre spec there. Just intuitively I thought it would be bad, but after watching this video, I did the math.
Obviously, the stats reduction is nice for the Shadow (increases shadow DPS to 8.466 and 7.400 for on and off task, respectively), but the question is in how much time it saves you per kill. If you are using max gear and Shadow, you save just over 1 tick per kill (1.13 vs 1.14 ticks on and off task, respectively) when using a single sceptre spec after accounting for the spec accuracy, the spec damage, and how much time it takes to spec. Even if you are doing 30 kills per hour (which is really pushing it) this saves you max 35 ticks per hour, which isn't enough for another kill. For me, I will continue using Eldritch specs to maintain long trips, but this is a really cool idea and probably the next best spec option!
Nice math but the point is that the kills are in fact faster. But yes if prayer is a significant issue, i agree eldritch would be better. In my case, i just do whole task with prayer leftover, so its different in my case. Also important to note is that the spec itself is a high dps hit since its faster than shadow, enhanced accuracy and damage, so your math didnt factor in the extra dps from that which would save you even more time. And the scepter is insanely cheap, so its more viable for those that might be tight on cash as well. So i'd have to slightly disagree on eldritch being the best thing at gws (for you, sure), but if prayer is not an issue, the scepter is a tier above.
@@RiceCup my math did factor in the spec dps. i have included the numbers below if you are curious. apologies for poor formatting!
on task:
sceptre:
0.5186: sceptre (hit) + shadow
(4 * 1) + ((255 - (66/2)) / (8.466 * 0.6))
~47.70 ticks
0.4814: sceptre (miss) + shadow
(4 * 1) + (255 / (7.930 * 0.6))
~57.59 ticks
~52.46 ticks average
shadow alone:
(4 * 0) + (255 / (7.930 * 0.6))
~53.59 ticks average
sceptre is better by 1.13 ticks
off task:
sceptre:
0.4618: sceptre (hit) + shadow
(4 * 1) + ((255 - (58/2)) / (7.400 * 0.6))
~54.90 ticks
0.5382: sceptre (miss) + shadow
(4 * 1) + (255 / (6.853 * 0.6))
~66.02 ticks
~60.88 ticks average
shadow alone:
(4 * 0) + (255 / (6.853 * 0.6))
~62.02 ticks average
sceptre is better by 1.14 ticks
@@qhp_ sure ill just believe you on that, i tend to trust my experience a bit more than dps cals, outside of just getting a general idea since the dps cals gives you a theoretical idea. But i'd say my overall opinions still scepter over eldritch if prayer is not an issue.
@@RiceCup yeah, for sure! sceptre is great and it is definitely faster overall.
much love ricecup! great to see you on iron bar
what a great video! love stuff like this. thanks man!
my only criticism is that the shadow explodes your magic accuracy, which makes magic defense reduc a lot less useful. Would have been a lot more helpful for some players if you did some testng wth a trident or sang, so people could get an idea of how magic lvl reduction feels without 500 magic accuracy.
Cool video though! love seeing lesser known uses for a previously dead item :D
Think bout it this way if shadow gets an improvement than non shadow will get a way bigger improvement. Dont want to drag this video out too long, i do mention this specifics on video
I bought the sceptre instantly when I watched this video and tried it at zulrah with full Ahrims and trident of the swamp and got a new pb pretty quick
I don’t recall the exact numbers. But I heard that on olm mage hand the scepter increases shadow dps by only ~3% while a trident or sang get closer to ~13% more dps. That difference is going to hold true everywhere
@@RiceCup thanks that makes sense. I'm sure these videos take a lot of time to make, and best to keep on the good side of squirrel brained youtube enjoyers.
@21:37 what is he wearing in ammo slot
Lucky penny be doing a video on it later
For shadowing kree, i recommend standing near the mage minion, letting the melee approach and freezing them together
You should look into Zebak with shadow and accursed sceptre spec. I believe (I may be wrong) it surpasses twisted bow.
Hey Iron, You should try using zcb ruby spec at start of zulrah as it always hits 45-50 and i managed to get a 43 sec pb with zcb/bofa.
Love the vids btw
going for pbs isn't the same as maintaining faster average kills though. i dont think zcb specing is a bad idea per say but my goal is more to obtain faster average kill times/hour so i dont think zcb would be the play for that. i got pbs basically without trying to go for personal bests, just aiming for kills/hour. like imagine if i did try to pbs, my strategy would be different but my kills/hour would be dramatically lower
You do realize a tbow/tumekens hits 50s often... Right?
Does the special of the accursed sceptre lower the max hit of the tbow? Since it drains the magic level, and the tbow max hit is based of it’s magic offense, right?
nope it does not, seems to lower magic def only on npcs at least
Crazy how cheap each shot is too for the charged staff bersion. At only about 175 each. That's less than a Trident of the Swamp and a Sang. Albiet at the cost of some power.
Is the sceptre spec going to noticeably lower tbow max hit / accuracy?
it doesnt change it at all just lowers magic def
Which plugin makes Akkha simon says lights brighter? at 15min 39 secs
Just hd plugin makes colors pop out more
What is the pugin to show gp/kill and gp/h. is that just loot tracker? if so how do you get it to do that. i couldnt figure it out. thanks.
im thinking of getting this on my "mid game" main since its just around 3m and my next upgrades are the 50m + weapons and armor so that will take a while haha, do you think its worthed?
better than nothing. keep it in mind its a spec wep outside of wildy
im gonna be honest here bro, i love ur vids and im sure the sceptre is noticeble at arma. i just did a full 187 kill arma task in 1 trip with arma.
just camping in 1 corner without sceptre, i get nonstop 20-30 sec kills. so imo not even worth walking under kree. just freeze melee minion and stay in corner worked perfectly for me without tank gear.
Ima need to see some proof my guy. Nonstop 20-30 seconds is a reach. Not to mention dancing doesnt slow down attack speeds at all so it only makes kills easier as you take less attacks/dmg. Scepter just speeds up avg kill times. I was already doing whole task a trip before scepter, but the point is that the avg kill speeds went down.
We need emblems to trade in for ether or gp. I can’t sit at revs for weeks to use the weps as an iron
Magma works with melee, corrupted crystal, and zammy
any tips for a low level iron wanting to get into hunting rev weapons? notably thammarons. I will complete the hard wildy diary but I'm wondering if rev tasks are mandatory at this point for the weapons or if i should just do skulled off task? thanks
rev tasks saves a lot of time so probly should do that
and skulled
At about 02:31 you say that the defence skill affects only really covers ranged and melee, but considering 30% of your magic defense comes from the defence skill (the other 70% coming from your magic skill), it seems like more than just a simplification to say defense doesn't really cover magic. From there, at about 02:46, you say that using a dragon warhammer on bandos will barely affect his magic defence, but that's just straight up false: Using the accursed scepter on Bandos will reduce his magic and defence level both by 15%, resulting in a total magic defence reduction of 15%. The dragon warhammer on the other hand, reduces his defence by 30%, and with magic defence being 30% from regular defence, that's a magic defence reduction of 9%, which is 60% of the effect of using the sceptre's special attack. Sure, 6% adds up and definitely makes a difference, but that's completely inaccurate to say that the dragon warhammer doesn't have much impact on bandos' magic defence, when it still reduces magic defence by over half as much as the sceptre does.
There's a disclaimer on that part for a reason. Itd take way to long to explain that and it wouldnt matter. You don't bring a melee setup to hammer a boss just so you can mage it lol.
I've been using it at barrows because it's funny to use the spec on ahrim, and ether is cheaper than refilling a trident (on a main.)
Something about hitting 40s with magic on Ahrim makes me giggle. (given his magic def and chances of splashing.)
Forgotten Brews are a cheap and easy way to add max hits to the staff.
73m xp for beaver
My main question would be, "does this work on Zuk?" have ancestral and spec starting his fight then switch to t bow?
Itd probly miss tbh but i imagine if it did land it would lower its def.
how do u turn on fight duration? might have missed it sorry, love the vids
boss info plugin
Where is the boss times coming from? You have them on all bosses ?
boss info plugin
And here I was happy I could avoid the wildy without missing out since they moved the dragon pick out
its nice but not that mandatory
@@RiceCup Yeah, feels niche, but now I want one lol. Before when it was only useful in the wildy itself I didn't care haha
It's okay though just the way things are in the game, maybe they'll release a pvm version of the spec eventually
@@RiceCup Funny how a day later jagex releases an idea for a new prayer that does just what I wanted haha
16 second arma kill??? boss literally takes 4x longer to respawn lmfao. I love it so much
I struggle to get sub 40 on kree arra in rs3 lmao
At zulrah for example, if you're using tbow (which does dmg based off the enemy's magic attack), is the scepter making your tbow hit lower?
No. It checks magic acc, not magic def
@@RiceCup oh alright, from the wiki "also drains the target's Defence and Magic by up to 15%" it sounded like it drains the mage level so i figured it'd affect Tbow dmg. Thanks for the info 👍
Nice work
Blowpipe better than Tbow at Zulrah?
On blue phase with good setup. But t bow last hit always worth
Muspah… it’s soooo good at muspah. Especially for plebs like me with no zcb.
wiled'y aha. its will-dee bro 8D like wilderness
Think accursed sceptre only works once lowering defence right? So hitting once makes other specs useluss
no, other specs will still work. its too complicated to explain here. u just cant b2b scepter spec, but others stack based on flat reduction like bgs or current def based on % like dwh
@@RiceCup ye, but you used it mulitple times?
Woodcutting pet at 104,273,167 experience
I’m stoked to see what you’ve got up your sleeve with this one 🙌
9:13 Actually the Current blowpipe is actually stronger than pre nerfed one when wearing Max range. Less accurate but slightly more strength than before using Ddarts
Also which plugin is he using for kill times? Is it Bossing Info , in the plugin hub?
i was mainly pointing out the accuracy difference with scepter and yeh boss info
@@RiceCup Thanks :)
What about chambers of xeric? I was thinking it would be good on tekton, vespula, and olm mage hand? Also, maybe even ice demon?
maybe if the team size was big enough to spread dif spec types
@@RiceCup that makes sense. However, i did a few tests today in regular trios and these were the results(while using tumeken): i felt a difference in accuracy when speced ice demon, skeletal mystics, vespula. Didn’t feel much of a difference at mage hand olm cuz it already smacks there, i would assume trident or sang would perform better but can’t prove it yet. Since the spec doesn’t stack and it’s basically dwh for mage that can be used on different targets i feel like its good in some rooms to get it down faster specially while light bearer exists. Your video covered most of the other content and I love it cuz it is truly genius! I would love to see your input and further testing of this in the future!
So after landing sceptre spec, blowpipe with dragon darts is better dps than t bow on blue phase?
Pretty sure its just best dps even without it. At least with max gear im pretty sure. The bp just becomes even more op since its fast
Cry is free. Keep up the meticulous content rice :)
wait i dont defence stats blocks 30% magic?acc
barely helps, reducing magic def is way bigger for magic dps
So with certain bosses are you just lowering the magic level of certain forms? Just if you use tbow your making that weaker by lowering mage level
nah it doesnt make t bow worse as that checks a different magic stat, not magic defence. you're lowering magic def and defence
@@RiceCup oh. I thought it lowered the magic level of the monster. I guess the specs useful for mage def but most mage def comes from mage level. Thats why Ive gotten it mixed up. Thanks for clarifying, appreciate it
the game is so powercrept now that u dont even need to separate the healers from scorpia anymore, using minimal risk aswell, hate to see it.
yeh it still worth to separate em, once in a while u get lucky and outdps em lol
Oh no not scorpia! People might farm it for 200k gp an hour!!!!
@@jacobknowsgeorgebushdid9119 ppl only kill scorpia for the pet, most content is becoming easyscape tho with all the powercreep put into the game, after new prayer book every1 will be able to do the inferno/tob/phosanis etc too.
Do you think it’s viable for irons to go just for the accursed septre rather than trident for cox and toa? I have the skull that’s all
Nah its def a side thing. Trident is too big
Sure you can, but heavy upkeep on revent eather, and trident is basically a notime as you have to get lance anywyas
@@gardmyhr6121there's no way 1 eth/cast is less efficient than trident cost
how come this sceptre doesn't work at calisto/artio?
Immune to magic dmg, they should really change that
do you think it would be worth using accursed spec on the mage olm hand in group cox ?
naybe if it was a big group
@@RiceCup yeah i was thinking in 3man + it might be good in norms and cms. btw the voidwaker is really good on vasa itself
@@Biteme1551 its ok i rather bring claws
I wonder if and how the staff's special attack might affect Zuk fights
it def can but then again i don't think ud wana bring a full mage switch to try land the spec.
@@RiceCup wont the gear brought in for barrage be enough? Disclaimer: I have a grand total of 0 Zuk kc so I have no idea what Im talking about
@@ludicium2423 i doubt it, even shadow with max gear on task u splash a good amount so dont expect scepter to land with half that gear lol maybe like 20% 30% being optimistic
me omw to merch sceptres before the prices go up
Whats the plugin for boss kills/hr?
In plugins type boss info or something like that
I just wanted this weapon to be as good as the other 2 pvp weapons. But then jagex does this update and now it’s gone above and beyond!🤩
some day the price might reflect that... F
magma muta champ
Do not use this sceptre on akkha... his defence resets almost as fast as you reduce it. Don't believe me? Use monster examine and enjoy wasting 50% for no gain. it's 15% flat against very low defence stats for 50% of your spec. (This would leave me in a pickle on dehydration runs if I needed my keris)
Remember, Akkha has almost no defence anyway. It's not worth the change in attack speed and rhythm to make the switch for such infantismal reductions whilst butterflying. A lot of people struggle with flawless butterflying where akkha doesn't change and doesn't switch, adding a pointless sceptre spec to that is just that. pointless.
This staves true potential is unlocked as an extremely high accuracy initial spec weapon for every room except akkha. The flat 15% reduction in both supersedes BGS in every single way, especially if running higher invocs where the BGS becomes deadweight. This staff does not require boosts to hit happily on all the bosses. So when starting kephri, pop a spec and quickly switch to your melee whilst getting into postition. with practice you don't lose ticks.
It allows for 2 min 30 405 invoc zebaks with magic. Something that most people won't be able to do without the sceptre even if they run 1,000 raids at 405 invoc. It allows 4 min 30 kephris with full charge and overlords and it pretty much removes 0s from the warden on both p3 and p4. I find bringing a brimstone switch advantageous for using this spec as it lets it hit more often whilst giving the fang the accuracy boost to push it over the hit thresh hold for 90% hit chance on kephri at 405 invoc.
I don't believe it's worth using more than 1 spec on the obelisk as the HP of the obelisk is low anyway with most people preferring to keris the first batch of damage. You won't be able to do both that and dds the core to its full potential is you burst down both specs.
I feel like you could have put a bit more effort covering this sceptre for toa ngl.
Nah its def worth at akkah with butterfly since you are guna stop him from teleing for a long time if you do it right. But with your invos it might not work, but you are only thinking bout it from your own limitations/dehy so and you have to understand that theres many variations of doing toa like groups benefitting massively off 1 spec on those bosses and people with out shadow benefiting alot more from it. Plenty of ways to toa without relying on keris only to heal.Tldr, you have to think beyond how you do toa, this video isnt about you, but the general toa goers, groups and dif invo setups
@@RiceCup I think you showcasing the content doing it solo really should reflect the usage of the staff as you're using it. You're not wrong about my mindset with it in teams, but even in teams it's still not worth it unless you've got a team using tridents or sanguinistis. it's just not worth the cost over better spec weapons if the defence is resetting so quickly. That's why you don't see people using BGS on akkha.
This is especially true for people looking to gain MVP within FFAs, especially irons. It is never worth it for an iron to do this unless the iron is happy either splitting or sacrificing as ultimately, that's what using sceptre on akkha does.
I'd have added its usefulness in zebak for team raids as quite often on experts you're finding staff users who use it on him. Mentioning that for them could be helpful my brother
@@arcadianrs i did show myself using it on teams too my guy at toa lol. so tbh idk what you're trying to criticize since most of your points was more catered towards your own play style rather than the actual general use of scepter there and being worth in so many scenarios. And again it's worth at akkah, under the right condition as ive mentioned - if u butterfly well and especially if teammates don't have shadow, it's big difference. Majority of toas arent people trying to greed mvps and stuff bro so your point bout ffa mindset is just a niche example of why you wouldn't use it and doesn't take away from its worth in a normal team or many solo setups. but yeh cool i could see it being good at zebak, i just didnt think it'd land much there for it to be worth whereas akkah and warden is super high land rate.
@@RiceCup A lot of the time I forget people still run lower raids etc I've been trapped in WDR hell (Hosted 800 wdr toas) and forget that the WDR standard isn't really standard outside wdr. It's always about the greed via wdr. Personally I've split 4 staves and had 1 solo so I'm plenty rich and honestly, going from what you've said, I might start trying the accursed on those 8 man raids i host at the start to see if I notice any real difference. I believe mathematically speaking, equipping the brimstone does the same thing at akkha over lightbearer if you are a staff user due to the x4 effect within the raid.
The staff is really good on zebak man, after posting my initial comment I got a PB for zebak on 405 solos of 2:19 which is blazing speeds, I've not been able to get it faster than 2:45 with bis tbow so idk, could be a niche thing for pulling faster pbs? who knows.
I camp brimstone when using the spec tho as it makes a big difference on it being a 0 or not. Zebak has a 1/5 double miss rate which is actually really generous. BGS has a 1/4 double miss rate on those invocs.
Gl with your future raids, king.
@@arcadianrs yeh i know shadow is good at croc with salts and bis setup, but i was referring to scepter landing consistently. and thanks
Shadow or twisted?
I am almost at 1bill, I know I got some ways to go but definitely want one of them
It depend on what bosses you do more of. For ex. Shadow if doing a lot of raids 3. Both are good at alot of places and competitive. Shadow is more costly to gear up for though
@@RiceCup I haven't done much raids, I am mobile only, so some things are hard to do
Slayer, mainly, pet grinds, God wars.. etc
@@hodlcrypto6026 well t bow is easier to use when you're more broke but shadow probably has more use cases nowadays but costs more in setup.
@@RiceCup thanks
how can bp hit better if bp hits high on high mage def :o
no bp doesnt hit high on high def, its based on regular defence that determines how accurate something like bp, scepters lower both def and magic def, so anything will hit more accurately.
how about speccing olm mage hand?
you could but probably not worth cus i rather be specing down the melee hand and save an invent space lol. unless maybe your team is so big that theres leftover specs.
Mans trying to help mindmadcow get rid of his sceptres 😅😅
You didn't even mention the fashionscape of the sceptre. I'm getting sick and tired of all these new cool lookin' stuff that makes all my old stuff look dumb.
Would it be any good at cox mage hand?
you could but probably not worth cus i rather be specing down the melee hand and save an invent space lol
@@RiceCup Even in teams?
@@squirrel9999 i mean if your is big enuf there might be left over specs, but its gota be quite a big team to even debate this
Olm mage hand?
Maybe with a big team. Specing melee hand is a priority
i have both on my meme as well, and i prefer tanz
i’m watching you
You are wrong about the defence normal defence affects mage too less but it does
oh no im aware of that which is why i put a disclaimer text. defence barely effects magic def is the point but i gota keep it simple for yt viewers.
I could have sworn defense doesn't affect pvm mage defense. Checking the wiki about damage says it only affects pvp mage def
@@powbong7735 trust me it does work lol on mobs. i dont see that on the wiki either
@@RiceCup hmm I'm looking on the os wiki for magic accuracy (it's on the magic page of the wiki) and it explicitly says magic defense for pvm does not take into account normal defense levels. It says its visible magic level +9 ×(magic defense roll +64) and that magic defense roll is based off of magic level and magic defense bonus. Maybe the wiki is just wrong or out dated on this page. Edited-wrote effective instead of visible in the calculation.
@@powbong7735 ye i explained that on the video lol. Scepters lower both defense and magic defence.
Does it work on zuk lol
it could but probably not worth because it's super tanky to magic so it'll miss alot
Why don't you buy more bank slots btw?
cus it's not full yet lol
@@RiceCup haha nice
In b4 sceptre price ^
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I was just thinking… I bet one of these future Ancient Sceptre Gems upgrades are going to allow you to cast Ancient Magicks every 4 Tics instead of 5… that’d be so sick at manical monkeys lol
Magma mutagen is better
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I beg you. Please stop saying "while-dy" it's triggering at this point. You don't say whilederness
Funny that “wild” and “wildly” are pronounced like how Rice pronounces “wildy”.
Why do you care so much? Lmao
Idk man most people widely don't care
Bruh, chill.
@@rws531 no bro just doesn’t know English that well. Wildy is not a word it’s a short form of the full word wilderness which does not have a hard vowel with the i because there is an e following the d. similar change in pronunciation when you say child as opposed to children. He’s just sounds like an idiot, but I guess he gets a pass because English might not be his first language?
nice vid but you said sceptre is great for teams at toa. this might be generally true but it definitely isn't if any of them are running tbow at wardens. It will reduce their accuracy and max hit quite negatively because of tbow's passive effect (scales up w/ enemy magic defense)
Watch this at 1,25x speed
I get 80k ph with a cannon and 85 magic bursting at dusts.
yeh makes sense with cannon
on sara u should do menu entry swapper for the melee minion so instead of having to right click for your kills, you can make it so you walk under the minion and just have the option to attack the boss :)