all guys think a terrisimo or hybrid venom are crazy thief......... i think SINDRENER is the craziest thief i ever seen, so nice vids i love it, and the streams
sindrener in wvw, that is hype! no need to mention that you are an incredible good thief again and again, but you are ;) Even though you played rly careful and patient most of the time it is very exciting to watch. i think that is what most player (not only thiefs, and that include myself muha) just dont do and loose fight they dont need to because of it. Also once more im reminded of the big angz 1vs1 server times, where you could meet a lot of pro player. Even though the server was very full most of the time, so i couldnt join more than 1-2 times in an hour but already watching all the different match ups and good plays was a hell of a fun and helped to improve the own skill lvl. i rly miss this and im glad too see that pro players find a bit more back into the community outside of esl. pls keep this up!
btw you prob know it but since you didnt use it here (and so other, who maybe dont know, can catch it up) let me ask: you know that you can stow the shadow shot after the blindshot/shadowstep to avoid the dmg what trigger the block on mesmer shield, so mesmer dont get the second block/phant no matter if he remove the blind to summon the first phant?
Jazz X man yes i know i can stow shadow shot i do it plenty in the video overall. Its not efficient to do it unless the mesmer has already started the s#4cus easy shatter cleanses the blind. If he started to cast it then u can blind. Its more efficient to dodge however
yes sure only use when mesmer started the block already ;), but i mean i just saw you using shadow shot for blind during the block but mesmer got the block, so he removed the blind with shatter to summon the first phant. what is no problem since he needed to use a shatter to clear the blind and get the first phant out. if you only dodge the phantspawn he dont need to "waste" a shatter to clear the blind. all fine until now. but since you also hitted the mesmer duing the block with the second part of shadow shot and autoattack he also get a second block. the second block you could have avoided by stow shadow shot after the teleport, no matter if the mesmer remove the blind with a shatter during the block or not.
Ya you can see later in duels i dodge instead, and I have other duels where i do it:) I can't really tell why I attacked this time, I had been dueling for 4hours straight there against various people so I tend to get exhausted lol. Think I was there 22-02 or even 03
ahaha yes i know this, its rly exhausting to be concentrated for a long time. and i see the amount of spectator standing on the left side, it was clear you had to duel a lot of ppl a lot of times ;) it is also no complain or something i was sure you know it but i was considering why you didnt stow after the blind to avoid the blocktrigger and i thought to talk about this maybe give ppl the information if they dont know it already :)
Awesome video, I want to fight you 50 times and see if I can possibly win once xD The best thieves are the patient ones who control the fight, and never seen any do it better than Sindrener.
Vanns isn't bad, he just has haters. Forget them. And btw I didn't exclude him from my list to be disrespectful. I just think the ones in my list are on a tier above the rest, which isn't a bad thing. Not being in someone's top 5 list doesn't mean they don't think they are really good or great :)
He's not bad, but he's not good either. Cake = good video makers, that's it. I have seen vans duel several good people from my server, lose 10 times, win 1 time, include win in video. Then go to a video where someone posted a win over a Cake member and flame about not including their losses. If they were good, you'd notice them in pvp.
havardmj Yeah that's def something I would never do. If I put something in my videos it is going to be someone who I either had some really fun back and forth fights with, or I had the upper hand on in most of our fights. I always look to have fights where we traded wins, but if someone beats me 10 times Im not going to include that 1 win in a video. I will make one admission though, I fought a trap hammer DH once whose build was just a total nightmare to deal with, he beat me 3 times and I won once, and I included that fight because it felt like I climbed a mountain to win, lol. But yea that was the only time I did something remotely like that.
Awesome playes omfg. If i would be on that level with my thief... I love to fight Revs for one reason, the stealskill is insane, the range you can throw it behind you is just ridiculous xD
I don't think invo has a chance whatsoever If i am focused/play as if im 100% in the "zone" so to say, but retri is different, I was dueling Fraelina in OS and I mean he is incredible, sure I might not die cus I can reset but it's insane how much he pressures me/jukes my steals on another level sadly we only did like 3-4 duels then GvG happened.
Now that is patience! Awesome self control. Sindrener, what do you think about condition dual dagger thief? Have you tried dueling against them or by using such build by yourself?
Any build without gapclosers is also just patience and control - similar fighting staff so I don't really have issues against it but I don't fight any builds like that very often. And I never played any condi build on thief no
Sick gameplay lad! I also have a question for roaming, i main mesmer but i am also interessted in thief roaming and ranger. However do you need full ascended to stand a chance or is it not needed? I ask this since it would be hard to farm ascended for every single alt, or atleast takes lots of time. Thanks in advance and again amazing video!
Hey Sind, I know I'm late to the party on an old video, but I couldn't help but notice you use the same build in WvW as you do in PvP, including the same Utility skills. I'm curious, do you just prefer the build? Or is it just for consistency? How does it compare to a Bounding Dodger build such as Terissimo's? How about in 1vX situations? I'm already subbed, but as usual, nice content :)
Considering the game is rock paper scissors and it's a loosing matchup, he was still winning, which you'll see in his next vid. I also find your sarcasm funny as you've never beaten me in mirror duels, out of what? 20 times? When you begged me to join Zen and then you raged at us after loosing every time.
Ladies relax, sure he won 1-2 duels after hours of dueling It was nice I sadly stopped recording after 1h~ cus my drive got full. I know myself and I have a hard time staying focused for hours especially as you say a winning matchup (invo) cus he insists on playing it, I tend to start to fuck around but thats my own fault :) and I wouldn't necessarily say that retri is a loosing matchup either, Frae/Baenz on retri is much more superior but that might also be cus they play it a lot more. It's just they are incredible at baiting out the steal which is needed to win. You guys care too much about losing/winning, see it as you learn something, not everyone plays the same. I learned a lot against this rev due to the fact he runs axe offhand instead of shield, it require adaptation which I love.
Hey! Would it be possible to duel you sometime in WvW or PvP? :-D Edit: I forgot you're on EU... I have a secondary account that I can create a character on EU for!
This sounds incredibly nit-picky and minor but it's AMAZING you are winning outnumbered fights without food. Typically, players who make these videos/take these outnumbered fights are better geared and fooded than their opponents. No food just shows how much more 'outplayed' your opponents were.
Why do EU teefs stow weapons so much? NA teefs are doing it now too only they stow and let you attack before they do anything again. I mean... It's a free bag for me so, thanks? lol! Awesome video!
I guess many thieves overall seen me do it and started doing it themselves. For me the reasons are: habbit against thieves who spam #4 so i dont autoattack. Also so i dont get stuck in animation so i can headshot, example is if i start autoattack chain and he starts casting something that has short cast the chain needs to be completed before i can headshot. Also its just APM spam to keep me warm as well :)
That makes sense. I spam jump and random movement, and I stow after the fight for no real reason so I guess I have no room to talk :D. Refreshing to see a video thats not just 1v2s and 1v3s against people who backpeddal or stand still for half the fight tho! subbed, hope to see more.
@@Sindrener yea primal stomp probably my favorite. most of your primal videos are just really great, because they show duels vs competent people and outnumbered fights vs the 'not as competent'. I actually modeled the single video I made off of your primal videos, back when I used to play thief competitively. I made top 50 in season 5 NA when they introduced the leaderboards for the first time, but stopped playing once I realized anet wasn't going to revive esl and cash tournies. So it's nice to come watch videos from back in the day from really great players that I used to study! A lot of nostalgia.
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Truly a God of PvP. Good soundtrack as well, gonna need to look into Blvck Ceiling. Thanks Sindrener!
most skilled in GW2...hands down.
Just incredible to watch you play.
Enjoyed watching this, a breath of fresh air compared to 99% of everything else out there. You're good.
It's such a pain to fight u , not gonna lie. Still didn't see a single thief who is even almost as good as you are
foe expample: i watch 10 videos und u comment like 8-9 of them
im not flaming or anything its just funny that u are trying to get yourself in a better position or smth
^^luv u bye
Hype vid!
Your playstile is so smart really nice done.
Can't wait to see you shine in sPvP again when thief comes back to the meta. LETS GO
It amazes me how much control you have over your char. I feel like when I try and do half that it is sluggish or something
Loved the vid man. Always enjoy watching you and observing how you play!
all guys think a terrisimo or hybrid venom are crazy thief......... i think SINDRENER is the craziest thief i ever seen, so nice vids i love it, and the streams
sindrener in wvw, that is hype! no need to mention that you are an incredible good thief again and again, but you are ;) Even though you played rly careful and patient most of the time it is very exciting to watch. i think that is what most player (not only thiefs, and that include myself muha) just dont do and loose fight they dont need to because of it.
Also once more im reminded of the big angz 1vs1 server times, where you could meet a lot of pro player. Even though the server was very full most of the time, so i couldnt join more than 1-2 times in an hour but already watching all the different match ups and good plays was a hell of a fun and helped to improve the own skill lvl. i rly miss this and im glad too see that pro players find a bit more back into the community outside of esl. pls keep this up!
btw you prob know it but since you didnt use it here (and so other, who maybe dont know, can catch it up) let me ask: you know that you can stow the shadow shot after the blindshot/shadowstep to avoid the dmg what trigger the block on mesmer shield, so mesmer dont get the second block/phant no matter if he remove the blind to summon the first phant?
Jazz X man yes i know i can stow shadow shot i do it plenty in the video overall. Its not efficient to do it unless the mesmer has already started the s#4cus easy shatter cleanses the blind. If he started to cast it then u can blind. Its more efficient to dodge however
yes sure only use when mesmer started the block already ;), but i mean i just saw you using shadow shot for blind during the block but mesmer got the block, so he removed the blind with shatter to summon the first phant. what is no problem since he needed to use a shatter to clear the blind and get the first phant out. if you only dodge the phantspawn he dont need to "waste" a shatter to clear the blind. all fine until now. but since you also hitted the mesmer duing the block with the second part of shadow shot and autoattack he also get a second block. the second block you could have avoided by stow shadow shot after the teleport, no matter if the mesmer remove the blind with a shatter during the block or not.
Ya you can see later in duels i dodge instead, and I have other duels where i do it:) I can't really tell why I attacked this time, I had been dueling for 4hours straight there against various people so I tend to get exhausted lol. Think I was there 22-02 or even 03
ahaha yes i know this, its rly exhausting to be concentrated for a long time. and i see the amount of spectator standing on the left side, it was clear you had to duel a lot of ppl a lot of times ;) it is also no complain or something i was sure you know it but i was considering why you didnt stow after the blind to avoid the blocktrigger and i thought to talk about this maybe give ppl the information if they dont know it already :)
purrfect playstyle sind 10/10 op!
Do more WvW roaming in the interim man. This stuff is fun to see!
Playing a Thief there is no reason to ever lose a 1v1 ever. Period. The class can engage and disengage at will. Best solo roaming class and 1v1 class.
Plenty of builds can beat a thief gw2 is rock scissors papper
Flawless
Awesome video, I want to fight you 50 times and see if I can possibly win once xD
The best thieves are the patient ones who control the fight, and never seen any do it better than Sindrener.
Wait, you don't actually believe vans is good do you?
how is he bad?
Vanns isn't bad, he just has haters. Forget them.
And btw I didn't exclude him from my list to be disrespectful. I just think the ones in my list are on a tier above the rest, which isn't a bad thing. Not being in someone's top 5 list doesn't mean they don't think they are really good or great :)
He's not bad, but he's not good either. Cake = good video makers, that's it. I have seen vans duel several good people from my server, lose 10 times, win 1 time, include win in video. Then go to a video where someone posted a win over a Cake member and flame about not including their losses. If they were good, you'd notice them in pvp.
havardmj Yeah that's def something I would never do. If I put something in my videos it is going to be someone who I either had some really fun back and forth fights with, or I had the upper hand on in most of our fights.
I always look to have fights where we traded wins, but if someone beats me 10 times Im not going to include that 1 win in a video.
I will make one admission though, I fought a trap hammer DH once whose build was just a total nightmare to deal with, he beat me 3 times and I won once, and I included that fight because it felt like I climbed a mountain to win, lol. But yea that was the only time I did something remotely like that.
These backstab stows are insane man, against the DH especially at 11:45
That was not a stow; that was a throw into a block.
No, it was a stow.
Awesome playes omfg. If i would be on that level with my thief... I love to fight Revs for one reason, the stealskill is insane, the range you can throw it behind you is just ridiculous xD
Sickening how good you smash GK :< What you think he should have done different to get any type of footing in the matchup? ^^
I don't think invo has a chance whatsoever If i am focused/play as if im 100% in the "zone" so to say, but retri is different, I was dueling Fraelina in OS and I mean he is incredible, sure I might not die cus I can reset but it's insane how much he pressures me/jukes my steals on another level sadly we only did like 3-4 duels then GvG happened.
That skill is crazy !
es un placer verte jugar amigo !! buena suerte y espero que no pares de subir videos de ladron ! abrazo
keep the uploads coming
love the songs
nice work. good music choice
that p/p staff thief at the end
this is great. love it
no "gz comments" from Zen xDDDDD
it's magnific vid Nice and GG =)
WAIT, you were that teef that was in GoblinKing's video? lol
i have not watched it but i'd assume so:) we had some good duels
Best Thief. Speechless !
sick vid, do you miss playing for a guild in wvw at all?
Well i only miss the old gvg times this meta is not even close
Sind back in WvW - atleast for a bit hehe ♥
-Ejo
Daredevil with Stealth lols XD... too dangerous and with range attack XD..
nice vid sind!
Awesome Vid!
Now that is patience! Awesome self control.
Sindrener, what do you think about condition dual dagger thief? Have you tried dueling against them or by using such build by yourself?
Any build without gapclosers is also just patience and control - similar fighting staff so I don't really have issues against it but I don't fight any builds like that very often. And I never played any condi build on thief no
Thanks for your opinion. Will continue looking for such build play style on youtube.
That kill on the rev while getting chased by his group was great. Keep on going and you'll be as good as me eventually :D
Sick gameplay lad! I also have a question for roaming, i main mesmer but i am also interessted in thief roaming and ranger. However do you need full ascended to stand a chance or is it not needed? I ask this since it would be hard to farm ascended for every single alt, or atleast takes lots of time. Thanks in advance and again amazing video!
King Lucadio idk i have not played with exotic since ascended came out mate
Sindrener oow okay well i will try getting ascended anyhow but will see how it turns out real soon, thanks for the quick reply
have and LSD chat cover but wheres the psy trance ./sad. amazing plays impeccable timing, good stuff!
open.spotify.com/user/bluri/playlist/0L6aWPCQrz9tFUZNbCUgHT
Stronk plays i like it!
very impressive... how do you like the Bound? hope can see some gameplay with bound
i dont play bound, im a pvp player so i play my pvp build basically
Hey Sind, I know I'm late to the party on an old video, but I couldn't help but notice you use the same build in WvW as you do in PvP, including the same Utility skills. I'm curious, do you just prefer the build? Or is it just for consistency? How does it compare to a Bounding Dodger build such as Terissimo's? How about in 1vX situations?
I'm already subbed, but as usual, nice content :)
0Exitus i just play what i play in pvp
Awesome video man!!!
a "ZEN" member dont loose any duell. its a fake.....hahahahaha
Nice Sind rly rly nice
Considering the game is rock paper scissors and it's a loosing matchup, he was still winning, which you'll see in his next vid. I also find your sarcasm funny as you've never beaten me in mirror duels, out of what? 20 times? When you begged me to join Zen and then you raged at us after loosing every time.
Obindo that salt in your words. i love you Obindo
KappaPride . And what salt? Sounds like you're just trying to be exempt from reason 4Head
Ladies relax, sure he won 1-2 duels after hours of dueling It was nice I sadly stopped recording after 1h~ cus my drive got full. I know myself and I have a hard time staying focused for hours especially as you say a winning matchup (invo) cus he insists on playing it, I tend to start to fuck around but thats my own fault :) and I wouldn't necessarily say that retri is a loosing matchup either, Frae/Baenz on retri is much more superior but that might also be cus they play it a lot more. It's just they are incredible at baiting out the steal which is needed to win.
You guys care too much about losing/winning, see it as you learn something, not everyone plays the same. I learned a lot against this rev due to the fact he runs axe offhand instead of shield, it require adaptation which I love.
11 dislikes!? ...im sure are the people who got rekt from u ... WP! skills in a whole different lvl !
Moe G zen disliked this
Do you use mostly mauraders gear for wvw roaming?
yeah
Whats the finisher u use? I always wondered
Also can you select that one by getting a choice of a permanent finisher from the ToL
wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/2nd_Place_World_Tournament_Series_Finisher
no this is exclusive from world tournament series, there has been 3 so far after they made it Pro Leauge. WTS Beijing, WTS Boston and WTS Cologne
Hey! Would it be possible to duel you sometime in WvW or PvP? :-D
Edit: I forgot you're on EU... I have a secondary account that I can create a character on EU for!
I love your videos! youtube/twitch
As you said yourself I am EU correct so you would have to get an EU account in that case
Thanks for the response! I PMed you on the forums :-)
Can you give tutorial for ranked pvp warrior build ?
art. btw how did u find out about blvck celing?
Uh it was actually a guy from TA who had it on one of his vids 2-3 years ago, ever since I have loved his music :)
Sindrener man same here, since i've heard it on your vid or stream i fell in love with this music ;D
fucking amazing
nice vid nachondrener :P
Member when this video kill Zen?
ValhallaRiser wat
zen is kill?
To be fair, these people you're playing against are pretty terribad, especially the rev and DH. gg tho
This sounds incredibly nit-picky and minor but it's AMAZING you are winning outnumbered fights without food. Typically, players who make these videos/take these outnumbered fights are better geared and fooded than their opponents. No food just shows how much more 'outplayed' your opponents were.
is there a base thief build you would recommend for a new player? thanks
if you play without HoT you can either play D/P shadow arts-trickery-deadly arts or drop deadly arts for acro for more survive
thank you
GG mini sin ! \o/ and pompelop !
weee koala pompelop
Nice vid
what is your food use vs Eliann? ^^
uh i think omnomberry ghost
Ty :)
Nice one Sind, well played.
lol nice thief plays!
u r the Best
Why do EU teefs stow weapons so much? NA teefs are doing it now too only they stow and let you attack before they do anything again. I mean... It's a free bag for me so, thanks? lol! Awesome video!
I guess many thieves overall seen me do it and started doing it themselves. For me the reasons are: habbit against thieves who spam #4 so i dont autoattack. Also so i dont get stuck in animation so i can headshot, example is if i start autoattack chain and he starts casting something that has short cast the chain needs to be completed before i can headshot. Also its just APM spam to keep me warm as well :)
That makes sense. I spam jump and random movement, and I stow after the fight for no real reason so I guess I have no room to talk :D. Refreshing to see a video thats not just 1v2s and 1v3s against people who backpeddal or stand still for half the fight tho! subbed, hope to see more.
sad we cant play DP anymore
rip D/P
Hello Sindrener, whats the music at 5:35 ?
blvck ceiling - cosmetic
Sindrener Thanks alot.
Thief is fun Kappa
Very
nice play , but BGM sucks ....
BGM?
Every thief is using this build now in WvW -_- xD
these are the underground wvw duels I always come back to watch to reminisce.
Primal stomp your favourite? Any specific part you like or just that its duels?
@@Sindrener yea primal stomp probably my favorite. most of your primal videos are just really great, because they show duels vs competent people and outnumbered fights vs the 'not as competent'.
I actually modeled the single video I made off of your primal videos, back when I used to play thief competitively. I made top 50 in season 5 NA when they introduced the leaderboards for the first time, but stopped playing once I realized anet wasn't going to revive esl and cash tournies. So it's nice to come watch videos from back in the day from really great players that I used to study! A lot of nostalgia.