I come here just to say that Vivace concept is perfect for Lightsum. Dont mentioned IZ as if their concept was stolen because elegant concept was used by many groups for a long time before.
IZ*ONE’s “elegant concept” originated from La Vie En Rose, a song that was originally CLC’s, so I wouldn’t care if Lightsum stole a song straight from from IZ’s catalog. This song is just part of the reparations that Chowon deserves.
Really? Cause there aren’t worse labels than Cube? The completely bizarre way most people view the kpop entertainment companies baffles my mind. The company can only do so much THEN it’s up to the FANS and public to show enough support for the company to continue investing in a group or artist. They are not charities, they do not and will not support a group or artist that does not make them money. As a BUSINESS, that is their primary focus, making money so they can PAY shareholders and employees. Yes, Cube management has had issues (tell me a business that hasn’t and I will laugh at you because ALL businesses have had management issues) but 75% of a group’s success depends on the fans and *general public liking, listening to, and BUYING their works*, that is the way the entertainment business works.
The outfits ahhhh they make me remember Twice haha.... Anyway the outfits are so beautiful on them and I love how stable their vocals and performance are! Not to mention Their visuals!
yebb, their oufit remind me of I CANT STOP ME - TWICE, it's so funny how many people said they stole iz's outfit while izone's outfit is also the same as twice
I always love their outfit, thankyou for the stylist .. 💙 .. really fit with their character .. Lightsum : "OUR MIC ALWAYS ON" They really like the sunbae ..
Hina appears in the ending fairy and then in the thumbnail. I hope she will come to play a key role, although I like Nayoung's and Chowon's performances too.
"VIVACE" [Romanized:] Eodiseonga deullyeooneun eumak It's you Neul gidaryeotdeon sungan cheot peijireul pyeolchyeo Geu nugudo moreuge Bimilseure neoreul geuryeo neoeullae Ja muneul yeoreo Wake me up Janjanhan nae mameul kkaewo Saekdareun geol wonhandamyeon Ije nae rideume neoreul matgin chae Nareul ttara i mellodireul ttara Yeogi naege omyeon dwae Jom deo ppareuge ppareuge Waenji teong bieo itdeon naui hayan kkumsoge Eojjeonji jakkuman gammiroun noraega deullyeo Neodo soljikaejyeo bollae Moreun cheokae boryeo haedo Neoui simjang soriga deullyeo VIVACE Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo Areumdaun norae wieseo Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE Destiny Neo unmyeongin deut deo seumyeodeureo gipi Lucid dream Bulgeojyeo ga neowa na dulmanui bimil Yeogi tto dareun gyeolmareun eopseo Neowa nan i sungane meomchwo Jom deo deo deo deo Areumdaun seonyureul geuryeonae Nae mameul yeoreo Take me up Mangseoril sigani eopseo Jinsimeul arabwatdamyeon Ije nareul wihan yeonjureul haejwo Dalkomhage jeoldae ijeul su eopge Neon jom dareuge dareuge Geumse nae mameul chaeune Waenji teong bieo itdeon naui hayan kkumsoge Eojjeonji jakkuman gammiroun noraega deullyeo Neodo soljikaejyeo bollae Moreun cheokae boryeo haedo Neoui simjang soriga deullyeo VIVACE Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo Areumdaun norae wieseo Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa Geurae geureoke Yeogi kkumeseo kkaeji anke Nae apui neol mideul su itge Nareul kkwak anajwo anajwo Sueopsi barae on Dream Hwaksilhae neoneun No more dream Deudieo neoreul manna Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo Areumdaun norae wieseo Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo Uriga mandeun i noraega kkeunnaji anke Geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE [Korean:] 어디선가 들려오는 음악 It's you 늘 기다렸던 순간 첫 페이지를 펼쳐 그 누구도 모르게 비밀스레 너를 그려 넣을래 자 문을 열어 Wake me up 잔잔한 내 맘을 깨워 색다른 걸 원한다면 이제 내 리듬에 너를 맡긴 채 나를 따라 이 멜로디를 따라 여기 나에게 오면 돼 좀 더 빠르게 빠르게 왠지 텅 비어 있던 나의 하얀 꿈속에 어쩐지 자꾸만 감미로운 노래가 들려 너도 솔직해져 볼래 모른 척해 보려 해도 너의 심장 소리가 들려 VIVACE 빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져 아름다운 노래 위에서 또 밤새도록 춤을 춰 너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐 그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE 또 밤새도록 춤을 춰 그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE Destiny 너 운명인 듯 더 스며들어 깊이 Lucid dream 붉어져 가 너와 나 둘만의 비밀 여기 또 다른 결말은 없어 너와 난 이 순간에 멈춰 좀 더 더 더 더 아름다운 선율을 그려내 내 맘을 열어 Take me up 망설일 시간이 없어 진심을 알아봤다면 이제 나를 위한 연주를 해줘 달콤하게 절대 잊을 수 없게 넌 좀 다르게 다르게 금세 내 맘을 채우네 왠지 텅 비어 있던 나의 하얀 꿈속에 어쩐지 자꾸만 감미로운 노래가 들려 너도 솔직해져 볼래 모른 척해 보려 해도 너의 심장 소리가 들려 VIVACE 빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져 아름다운 노래 위에서 또 밤새도록 춤을 춰 너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐 그래 그렇게 여기 꿈에서 깨지 않게 내 앞의 널 믿을 수 있게 나를 꽉 안아줘 안아줘 수없이 바래 온 Dream 확실해 너는 No more dream 드디어 너를 만나 빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져 아름다운 노래 위에서 또 밤새도록 춤을 춰 너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐 그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE 또 밤새도록 춤을 춰 우리가 만든 이 노래가 끝나지 않게 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE.
For those who are bashing Cube Entertainment: The completely bizarre way most people view the kpop entertainment companies baffles my mind. The company can only do so much THEN it’s up to the *FANS and public to show enough support* for the company to continue investing in a group or artist. They are not charities, they do not and will not support a group or artist that does not make them money. As a BUSINESS, that is their primary focus, making money so they can PAY shareholders and employees. Yes, Cube management has had issues (tell me a business that hasn’t and I will laugh at you because ALL businesses have had management issues) but *75% of a group’s success depends on the fans and general public liking, listening to, and BUYING their works* because that is the way the entertainment business works.
Sad truth. Even cube Is lacking many kpop fans didn't much pay attention to cube groups unless their group have stable. Fanbased who always stay even the group have issue or problem. It General public choice and if you ARe not appeal, you will expect less priority for all the group in the company. I think the more recent is Woolim... After Infinite now Lovelyz are in danger of disbandment.... I think it's because is a middle company right after big 4 that is why many hated the way cube manage the group. I think both cube and the listener of cube are the problem
@@ljgella05 I absolutely believe that Cube entertainment could have probably done a better job promoting and handling their idols but when it comes down to it, all entertainment agencies are businesses, they operate for a profit therefore if a “person” (artist, group, producer, etc) cannot provide them with a decent profit, it becomes a waste of time and resources to continue investing in that “person.” It sucks because so many good groups have disbanded because of it but businesses have to make a profit in order to stay in business so people can continue to enjoy the groups that do make them money.
@@cindih78 I partly agreed to you. But the effort of cube on doing their past promotions are really not strong that makes also the listener and kpop fans didn't pay attention to their group.
@@ljgella05 I paid attention because I heard a couple songs from BTOB that stuck in my head so I researched the group to find out who they were. Then I found more songs that I liked including songs with other artists so I checkout out those artists too and found I liked their music as well. An entertainment agency can throw all the money at a group and it still fail if the music doesn’t resonate with the majority of the listeners. I can’t say I was particularly impressed or enamored with CLC’s early music, I didn’t really start enjoying it until Black Dress. That feeling is reflected in sales data of CLC so I am not the only one with those feelings. I loved helicopter and really wish CLC could create another mini album that could hopefully gain the popularity that the group deserves but I understand the concept of *enough is enough* when it comes to sales and business. It really sucks but it is what it is, life is not fair and crappy stuff happens to good people all the time.
@@cindih78 yeah. So sad that's why a lot of big 4 company easily get that fame and sales even they are just rookies because before they debuted they have the advantage already and even the song is not sometimes a taste to all it became automatic hit because of popularity. And cube group really need to do more research by people so that they will stan them.
I think this or the next comeback is gonna be the last fresh, cute comeback for this group. It's just the way Cube handles their girl groups. Starting with a innocent fresh cincept and then push for a hard style
Lightsum is gonna be that group that stay eating CDs I see… love that
their live vocals are so good! this type of concept is perfect for them.
yujeong was born to perform , her facial expressions , vocals , dancing , literally everything on point
Their vocals are sooooo good! They are doing great as rookies! Cant wait to stan cuz this song is a BOO
Lightsum good job!! As expected always stable performance!! keep up the good work, fighting!!
*Nayoung's stage presence and facial expression are so great. Her live vocal also becomes my favourite. I love her voice so much.*
Everyone is doing so well, and Hina even got to have a center part! Congratulations to the girls as this is a solid first comeback from them.
I come here just to say that Vivace concept is perfect for Lightsum. Dont mentioned IZ as if their concept was stolen because elegant concept was used by many groups for a long time before.
IZ*ONE’s “elegant concept” originated from La Vie En Rose, a song that was originally CLC’s, so I wouldn’t care if Lightsum stole a song straight from from IZ’s catalog. This song is just part of the reparations that Chowon deserves.
I can't name any groups that has elegant concept beside izone actually
@@nyanneko20 wjsn who?
Because this producer of this song is the one who produced la vie en rose
@@jeogwid3894 ain't wjsn's concept is magical? Astronomical(?)
Lightsum is gonna be big someday....mark my words.
P.s: if cube doesn't ruin this group.
stop talkin shit abt cube
@@loraminhyophobic704 but cube is a shit company
@@amritasingh3308 not now ..
@@loraminhyophobic704 never 😍
Really? Cause there aren’t worse labels than Cube? The completely bizarre way most people view the kpop entertainment companies baffles my mind. The company can only do so much THEN it’s up to the FANS and public to show enough support for the company to continue investing in a group or artist. They are not charities, they do not and will not support a group or artist that does not make them money. As a BUSINESS, that is their primary focus, making money so they can PAY shareholders and employees. Yes, Cube management has had issues (tell me a business that hasn’t and I will laugh at you because ALL businesses have had management issues) but 75% of a group’s success depends on the fans and *general public liking, listening to, and BUYING their works*, that is the way the entertainment business works.
LIGHTSUM STYLIST NEVER DISAPPOINT ME SINCE THEIR DEBUT!!
Lightsum deserve to be have more fans!
Yujeong is bias wrecking so hard right now! This girl has fantastic stage presence. Pre-debut I didnt expect her to shine as much as she is.
The outfits ahhhh they make me remember Twice haha.... Anyway the outfits are so beautiful on them and I love how stable their vocals and performance are! Not to mention Their visuals!
samee. fancy era
yebb, their oufit remind me of I CANT STOP ME - TWICE, it's so funny how many people said they stole iz's outfit while izone's outfit is also the same as twice
Same. The outfits just reminds me of TWICE during I Can't Stop Me era!! And... I love THEM
it's hina's idea i guess
True, in i cant stop me Era
they are all so talented 😭
I always love their outfit, thankyou for the stylist .. 💙 .. really fit with their character ..
Lightsum : "OUR MIC ALWAYS ON"
They really like the sunbae ..
Chowon looks like a goddess, better yet she is one, I hope we get a fancam of this performance
Lightsum the best girl group
Please give them love and support
The gone be the best girl group
When the gone be famous I will sead I stan them from the beginning 😩💖
Hina living the best of life performing with similar outfits with Twice.
Yujeong's hair...😭
My fairy!
Juhyeon 😍
wahh..daebak..
yujeong shines the most in this comeback!!
Gemes bgt. Choreonya juga cocok bgt sama lagunya yang kesannya indah
Perfect live vocals. Beautiful and stunning visuals. Damn.
I really like the lightsum, they have a unique charm
Juhyeon is so good TAT
I couldn't take my eyes off them. They all look so beautiful.
Yujeong looks soooooo pretty!!!!!🤧
Yujeong really definition of pretty and talented❤
The cutest first-love of lightsum is shining!
Hina! 😆💗
Fun Fact the word Vivacé comes from classical music and it means brisk, fast, and exciting. I would know this since I am a Music Major.
OMG THE OUTFIT, VISUAL AND VOCALS SO PRETTYYYYYY
Nayoung so pretty and at the same time cute. Fairy beauty
Vocals ✨
Sangah is so attractive with her blue hair
This song is such a bop….their clothes rn kinda reminds me of i can’t stop me🥰
True
TRUE
Same
They look so beautiful and the vocals yesss😍👌
This is the first time I’ve heard of this group
they're so underrated like these girls are so talented.
So underated got 18m on their debut? You must be joking! This song will not be "so underrated" that is why you are here!
lightsum, el futuro del kpop💝
If this is so good, they must maintain or do better which is good! Everyone will be so excited each time especially after this comeback!
3:15 YES YUJEONG CENTER GET IT!!!!!!!
Sangah why so pretty?! Vivace sounds so good! Lightsum fighting
the outfits reminds me of that one twice fancy stage!! love it.
Wow
i like their outfits like i cant stop me luv itttt
Sangah is so stunning with her blue hair
Good job. Their live vocals are so amazing
Yujeong OMG ❤❤❤
HiNayoung🧚💕
So talented! Go Lightsum!
SUMITS! Pre voting for the show is now open! Please vote for LIGHTSUM! They deserve their first win!
I JUST KNOW LIGHTSUM IS GONNA BE BIIIIG BIG
Hina appears in the ending fairy and then in the thumbnail. I hope she will come to play a key role, although I like Nayoung's and Chowon's performances too.
Yujeong’s era!!!
So beautiful
Ending fairy, Hina-chan🧚
it's a beautiful smile but if you wink it will be perfect😊
사랑해요
I LOVE THEM
Keren banget dan cantik cantik semuaaaa
Their outfits remind me TWICE I can't stop me .
Stan TWICESUM!
Yes
Great job guys!! Stable vocalsss
Their stylists never dissapoint now I found my bias
"YUJEONG"
Yujeong era fr
Vivace is bop
sangah looks so pretty with that blue hair
Yujeong cantik banget comeback kali ini
Wowowow
Yujeong has center vibe so much
사랑해 lightsum 💜💜💜
YUJEONG GIVES ME CENTER VIBES!!!!
CUBE GIVE THE CENTER POSITION TO YUJEONG, SHE DESERVED IT!!
hina is so gorgeous
"VIVACE"
[Romanized:]
Eodiseonga deullyeooneun eumak It's you
Neul gidaryeotdeon sungan cheot peijireul pyeolchyeo
Geu nugudo moreuge
Bimilseure neoreul geuryeo neoeullae
Ja muneul yeoreo Wake me up
Janjanhan nae mameul kkaewo
Saekdareun geol wonhandamyeon
Ije nae rideume neoreul matgin chae
Nareul ttara i mellodireul ttara
Yeogi naege omyeon dwae
Jom deo ppareuge ppareuge
Waenji teong bieo itdeon naui hayan kkumsoge
Eojjeonji jakkuman gammiroun noraega deullyeo
Neodo soljikaejyeo bollae
Moreun cheokae boryeo haedo
Neoui simjang soriga deullyeo VIVACE
Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo
Areumdaun norae wieseo
Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo
Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa
Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE
Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo
Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE
Destiny
Neo unmyeongin deut deo seumyeodeureo gipi
Lucid dream
Bulgeojyeo ga neowa na dulmanui bimil
Yeogi tto dareun gyeolmareun eopseo
Neowa nan i sungane meomchwo
Jom deo deo deo deo
Areumdaun seonyureul geuryeonae
Nae mameul yeoreo Take me up
Mangseoril sigani eopseo
Jinsimeul arabwatdamyeon
Ije nareul wihan yeonjureul haejwo
Dalkomhage jeoldae ijeul su eopge
Neon jom dareuge dareuge
Geumse nae mameul chaeune
Waenji teong bieo itdeon naui hayan kkumsoge
Eojjeonji jakkuman gammiroun noraega deullyeo
Neodo soljikaejyeo bollae
Moreun cheokae boryeo haedo
Neoui simjang soriga deullyeo VIVACE
Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo
Areumdaun norae wieseo
Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo
Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa
Geurae geureoke
Yeogi kkumeseo kkaeji anke
Nae apui neol mideul su itge
Nareul kkwak anajwo anajwo
Sueopsi barae on Dream
Hwaksilhae neoneun No more dream
Deudieo neoreul manna
Binnaneun sesangi nunape pyeolchyeojyeo
Areumdaun norae wieseo
Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo
Neoui mameul boyeobwa neoui mameul georeobwa
Geurae geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE
Tto bamsaedorok chumeul chwo
Uriga mandeun i noraega kkeunnaji anke
Geureoke deo ppareuge VIVACE
[Korean:]
어디선가 들려오는 음악 It's you
늘 기다렸던 순간 첫 페이지를 펼쳐
그 누구도 모르게
비밀스레 너를 그려 넣을래
자 문을 열어 Wake me up
잔잔한 내 맘을 깨워
색다른 걸 원한다면
이제 내 리듬에 너를 맡긴 채
나를 따라 이 멜로디를 따라
여기 나에게 오면 돼
좀 더 빠르게 빠르게
왠지 텅 비어 있던 나의 하얀 꿈속에
어쩐지 자꾸만 감미로운 노래가 들려
너도 솔직해져 볼래
모른 척해 보려 해도
너의 심장 소리가 들려 VIVACE
빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져
아름다운 노래 위에서
또 밤새도록 춤을 춰
너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐
그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE
또 밤새도록 춤을 춰
그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE
Destiny
너 운명인 듯 더 스며들어 깊이
Lucid dream
붉어져 가 너와 나 둘만의 비밀
여기 또 다른 결말은 없어
너와 난 이 순간에 멈춰
좀 더 더 더 더
아름다운 선율을 그려내
내 맘을 열어 Take me up
망설일 시간이 없어
진심을 알아봤다면
이제 나를 위한 연주를 해줘
달콤하게 절대 잊을 수 없게
넌 좀 다르게 다르게
금세 내 맘을 채우네
왠지 텅 비어 있던 나의 하얀 꿈속에
어쩐지 자꾸만 감미로운 노래가 들려
너도 솔직해져 볼래
모른 척해 보려 해도
너의 심장 소리가 들려 VIVACE
빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져
아름다운 노래 위에서
또 밤새도록 춤을 춰
너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐
그래 그렇게
여기 꿈에서 깨지 않게
내 앞의 널 믿을 수 있게
나를 꽉 안아줘 안아줘
수없이 바래 온 Dream
확실해 너는 No more dream
드디어 너를 만나
빛나는 세상이 눈앞에 펼쳐져
아름다운 노래 위에서
또 밤새도록 춤을 춰
너의 맘을 보여봐 너의 맘을 걸어봐
그래 그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE
또 밤새도록 춤을 춰
우리가 만든 이 노래가 끝나지 않게
그렇게 더 빠르게 VIVACE.
I m so happy if they get 1st win with this song
Nayoung and Hina the Main Visuals.
تكفون شذي الكياتة
Early
Vivace 💜💜
For those who are bashing Cube Entertainment: The completely bizarre way most people view the kpop entertainment companies baffles my mind. The company can only do so much THEN it’s up to the *FANS and public to show enough support* for the company to continue investing in a group or artist. They are not charities, they do not and will not support a group or artist that does not make them money. As a BUSINESS, that is their primary focus, making money so they can PAY shareholders and employees. Yes, Cube management has had issues (tell me a business that hasn’t and I will laugh at you because ALL businesses have had management issues) but *75% of a group’s success depends on the fans and general public liking, listening to, and BUYING their works* because that is the way the entertainment business works.
Sad truth. Even cube Is lacking many kpop fans didn't much pay attention to cube groups unless their group have stable. Fanbased who always stay even the group have issue or problem. It General public choice and if you ARe not appeal, you will expect less priority for all the group in the company. I think the more recent is Woolim... After Infinite now Lovelyz are in danger of disbandment.... I think it's because is a middle company right after big 4 that is why many hated the way cube manage the group. I think both cube and the listener of cube are the problem
@@ljgella05 I absolutely believe that Cube entertainment could have probably done a better job promoting and handling their idols but when it comes down to it, all entertainment agencies are businesses, they operate for a profit therefore if a “person” (artist, group, producer, etc) cannot provide them with a decent profit, it becomes a waste of time and resources to continue investing in that “person.” It sucks because so many good groups have disbanded because of it but businesses have to make a profit in order to stay in business so people can continue to enjoy the groups that do make them money.
@@cindih78 I partly agreed to you. But the effort of cube on doing their past promotions are really not strong that makes also the listener and kpop fans didn't pay attention to their group.
@@ljgella05 I paid attention because I heard a couple songs from BTOB that stuck in my head so I researched the group to find out who they were. Then I found more songs that I liked including songs with other artists so I checkout out those artists too and found I liked their music as well.
An entertainment agency can throw all the money at a group and it still fail if the music doesn’t resonate with the majority of the listeners. I can’t say I was particularly impressed or enamored with CLC’s early music, I didn’t really start enjoying it until Black Dress. That feeling is reflected in sales data of CLC so I am not the only one with those feelings. I loved helicopter and really wish CLC could create another mini album that could hopefully gain the popularity that the group deserves but I understand the concept of *enough is enough* when it comes to sales and business. It really sucks but it is what it is, life is not fair and crappy stuff happens to good people all the time.
@@cindih78 yeah. So sad that's why a lot of big 4 company easily get that fame and sales even they are just rookies because before they debuted they have the advantage already and even the song is not sometimes a taste to all it became automatic hit because of popularity. And cube group really need to do more research by people so that they will stan them.
I hope cube will treat the girls in a good way.They are so talented.
I hope so
THAT HUIYEON DIMPLE CLOSEUP???!!
Chowon💖💖💖
Nayoung & Hina ending fairy uwu
And to think that they're still rookies. Queens!
Wow, the girl in the grey did amazing
hina is so cuteeee
Great vocals!
Like panorama izone, they outfit and opening dance
I agree with you
before IZ, WJSN used elegent concept, IZ not the only one can use this concept.
@@jeogwid3894 pretty sure they didn't meant it that way but yeah i agree that no one owns a concept
@@jeogwid3894 i say the outfit and opening dance,,
@@riniharyono8409 this outfit is quite common, nothing is unique to izone
this stage is so Panorama Iz*one Vibes...huhu i miss All of them
Chowon 💋
YUJEONG CANTIK BGT
Why cube family always eat CD?
u did well today girls 😘
Idk what to say. Play this at my funeral.
The clothes are like the clothes of twice's song I can stop me
lol yes it remind me of that too. maybe suggestion of Once here in this group namely hina 🤣
Lightsum: all members are center and all members are visual
QUE LINDAAAAAAS
huiyeon
Nayoung the most Talented and the most balance out of them
I think this or the next comeback is gonna be the last fresh, cute comeback for this group. It's just the way Cube handles their girl groups. Starting with a innocent fresh cincept and then push for a hard style