Would like to see Jake sit down with his collection of 1911/2011's plus as many other 1911/2011's as y'all could get your hands on and get a general overview/summation say two minutes per gun, and what he likes and doesn't plus his opinion on each company basically an idea of best bang for buck, best fit and finish. Basically what it would be like to walk into a gun store and handle 15-20 firearms of the 2011 variety since most people don't have access to that kind thing.
Love your videos but this one leaves out how groundbreaking Wilson Combat has been with these guns… 20 years ago many thought the 911 was dead and recently with the proliferation of polymer striker designs, the 1911 was thought to be outdated. All of this is now changed and this video doesn’t lay out the landscape entirely. 20 years ago companies like Para Ordinance made double stack steel framed 1911’s to try and modernize the platform - I think this was good but in my experience they weren’t very reliable and it didn’t move the game on… more recently, the STI/Staccato’s of the world did move the game on! These companies devised a screw on polymer grip module for the 1911 - thus keeping the benefits of the 1911 (trigger, accuracy) while increasing capacity and reducing weight - and now we have the 2011 - that’s making inroads with police, military and the 2 factions - the 1911 people who appreciate an enhanced platform that retains a lot of the original and the polymer striker people who are trying these 2011’s and realizing how awesome they are! This is groundbreaking!!! But in this video you review of this Wilson and the punchline is “it’s good” - I think it deserves a lot more than that! The new guns Wilson has produced are groundbreaking in many ways… if you perhaps don’t like the idea of a polymer grip module screwed onto a steel or aluminum frame (Prodigy and Staccato) or a more elegant aluminum grip module (Nighthawk), Wilson has address this with a one-piece design. If you love the idea of a lighter slide and an external extractor mated to a one-piece double stack frame you have the Tri-cut slides of the EDC and SFX - if you like a wider frame you buy the EDC with the G10 inserts, if you like the thinner fame you get the SFX or SFT. If you prefer a traditional slide you buy the gun in this video… But I think your video glosses over some pretty significant enhancements by Wilson… First, you have a 2011 alternative in the one-piece design, second, you have choices of modern or traditional slide and extractor designs, third, you have the elimination of the grip safety (simplification, reduced weight, complexity and maintenance), fourth, you have a redesigned barrel to slide lockup in the EDC and SFX that more resembles a polymer pistol lockup, fifth, you have cut slide rails in these models vs traditional 1911’s with full length slide rails to improve reliability when dirty, 6th, you have 15 flush and 18 round magazines (that work in all of these guns - great simplicity and compatibility from Mec Gar), where the 18’s only protrude a little, 7th, you have extensive engineering that provides double stack capacity with a thinner grip… These Wilsons are as groundbreaking as the original concept of the 2011 and would love to see some Videos on this evolution as Wilson has truly moved the game on. My suggestion to Wilson is to extend these designs to utilize steel frames for us nerds that like steel on steel vs steel and aluminum) but I would imagine these frames would be nearly impossible to forge in steel, perhaps a new casting process to offer these incredible designs in all stainless or carbon steel. Just some of my thoughts!
I really appreciate your honesty as everyone is gushing over this gun . Yes I still love my atlas Titan but can’t carry it . I’m leaning towards the Bul thanks again Gary
Been looking forward to this video. Ordered an sfx9 4” directly from WC in November (8 month lead time) for edc. Anxiously awaiting an update call. I concur with the comments on their customer service and attention to detail. Makes spending $$$$ feel pretty good.
Excellent Video guys. I just wanted to give kudos to Chris as he always shows very safe gun-handling techniques here and really in every video. Reminder to all of us, follow his lead.
How do these (SFX9/SFT9) compare to a Staccato C2? I was really wanting a Wilson, but the Staccato is getting a lot of praise and its significantly cheaper. Wilson mags are much more affordable, though. Staccato's magazine prices are outright robbery.
I watched this video when I first got the SFT almost a year ago and then again today. It has gone from a range toy to literally my do everything gun in that time. I thought I would add my thoughts in the comments for anyone looking to get one. I was a striker fire or DA/SA guy until I picked up a Staccato P. Fantastic gun but was too big for an EDC for me. I got a Staccato CS. Little gun and a great carry size but truly a bit snappy for my tastes. (Yes, I can handle the recoil fine but why should I have to when there is a better option.) Eenter the SFT. I actually went to buy an SFX but they had the T in stock and I am not the most patient person so I bought it. As I got to know the gun and shot it more and more I fell in love with it. I eventually did a shoot off with all the guns I felt I shot the best. Using quantifiable metrics, the SFT was the clear winner and it wasn’t even close with any of the striker fire guns and the SFT out performed the Staccato P in my hands as well. I have put between 5 and 6 thousand rounds though it at this point. I have not seen a difference in the 1147 and the 115 grain ammo but my palate is likely not as refined as yours. It is extremely reliable for about 500 to 700 rounds after cleaning. It will then start to feed rounds in slow motion until you clean and oil it. (Oil alone isn’t enough btw.) It took me six months of practice before I was 100% subconsciously competent with the safety coming off with the draw stroke. Now I carry this everywhere it is legal and I don’t need a 10mm. I have 22 magazines for the range so I can run a lot of training with minimal time reloading. Most of those mags are the 18 round mags. (It is worth noting, most of those would only take 17 rounds until they had been broken in.) I haven’t done an IDPA match in a while but feel the SFT will shine in that atmosphere. Anyway, if anyone else is thinking of getting one of these I feel it is money well spent. It takes more time to maintain than an HK or Glock. It is the most narrow double stack grip you can get on a 1911 and carries extremely well. As always, great job with your videos. JC
Thanks a lot for this. I use the p220 and a p365xl. I love staccato's grip texture but not their bulky features. What is your opinion of SFT9's grip texture.
@@kellenhietpas7349 I really like the texture on the SFT9. The front and back are extremely grippy while the sides are not quite as aggressive. Perfect for carry IMO
my biggest complaint with the standard 2011 series is the magazines. The Wilson EDCx9, SFT9, Experior series offer amazing magazines. Its really a game changer.
SFT9 is not technically a 1911. There's a number of differences like no grip safety. etc. Obviously very similar to a 1911, based on the 1911. Anyway, it's the dream gun I waited decades for, and while not cheap, you pay for the best, and it gets no better than a Wilson, and the AFT9 is the peak Wilson offering. I always wanted a dead reliable double stack 9mm based on 1911, made for CCW, and they did it. The EDC was close, didn't like the ergos.
I just put money down on one of these last week for a sfx9. I'm the guy that ended up with your triarc tri 11 also. My wife's gonna kill me if I keep watching and buying guns lol.
Jake’s silly ass gonna go snow blind wearing them clears out there. Bout to start a new job so maybe i can afford one of them blasters soon. Hell yeah homies
7075 is a great aluminum alloy. About 84% stronger than 6061 with a higher hardness for wear resistance and lower thermal conductivity, making it an excellent choice for firearm parts that aren't the bolt/barrel. The main chemical difference is the higher zinc content in 7075. T6 is pretty much the go-to heat treat spec for high-grade aluminum alloys. Saying the heat treat before the alloy is weird.
If we're being honest it really just has to be reliable enough to get through the ammo that's in the gun and whatever spare magazines you carry. Then maybe a 200 round practice session, and you can stop shooting and lube it then.
These are pretty cool and I prefer the traditional look of the slide vs some of their similar guns. It would be a lot more appealing at a price point closer to $2k.
Tonight on 1911 Syndicate : Crispy shows off his new house, Jake is not on top of the world, and will a 1911 from Arkansas make it's cousin the Glock look attractive?
The WC pistol is amazing!! Only major downside, that was mentioned, single sided safety. And if you happen to purchase from a seller other than Wilson, you’re out of luck. They refuse to sell any safety. Ambi or otherwise. Very frustrating! Especially after putting down quite a bit for their firearms. 👎🏻. But the pistol is awesome.
That cave leads to the mole people world in hollow earth. Flesh eaters... The scrawny ginger could get away, but the big guy is toast. Would make a fun video for sure.
I have enjoyed your videos. The contact is always excellent. I am moving off of the UA-cam platform and over to Rumble. Would you guys be willing to simulcast on Rumble? I don’t wanna miss any of your good content.
Wilson builds good guns, I have a couple. While they’re not my favorite handguns by any means, one thing WC sets the fukking Bar on; Customer Service. Fun Vid guys. You’re doing WINTER HELL right.
@@tomharper8351 For carry I have a couple Staccato’s that are substantially modified, and a couple P365x with PMM Barrel/Comp and Wilson (go figure) grip frames. For pure enjoyment a few full on Custom 1911’s (Yost, Don Williams, Harrison, etc).
@@1911syndicate primarily conceal carry with lots of range time. I really want a smooth shooter though. It just seems like for that kind of money I should be blown away and you guys didn't seem to be. You have handled way more 1911s than I have so I respect your opinions. I have 4k at my disposal and want a superior 1911 platform for carry any suggestions would be awesome.
LMT is not Gucci. LMT has a big problem with putting out messed up parts with HORRIBLE machining, and nearly non-existent QC...... They are a dumpster fire that charges WAAAAAYYYY more than they're worth.
@@Chrisblau i carry one, but just can’t spend the money if i can’t mount a light..in case a hand is tied up or injured. i’ll def be watching for a version with the rail.
In the video title you call me the SFT9 "the do it all 1911". I don't consider the SFT9 to be a true 1911 or even a true 2011. It may have 1911/2011 like controls etc but it has no grip safety, so.... not a 1911!
Would like to see Jake sit down with his collection of 1911/2011's plus as many other 1911/2011's as y'all could get your hands on and get a general overview/summation say two minutes per gun, and what he likes and doesn't plus his opinion on each company basically an idea of best bang for buck, best fit and finish. Basically what it would be like to walk into a gun store and handle 15-20 firearms of the 2011 variety since most people don't have access to that kind thing.
I’m going to make a guide to 2011’s soon. Which will be a similar idea
I agree, Wilson Combat is definitely the OG, but man do they know how to continuously innovate.
Love your videos but this one leaves out how groundbreaking Wilson Combat has been with these guns… 20 years ago many thought the 911 was dead and recently with the proliferation of polymer striker designs, the 1911 was thought to be outdated. All of this is now changed and this video doesn’t lay out the landscape entirely. 20 years ago companies like Para Ordinance made double stack steel framed 1911’s to try and modernize the platform - I think this was good but in my experience they weren’t very reliable and it didn’t move the game on… more recently, the STI/Staccato’s of the world did move the game on! These companies devised a screw on polymer grip module for the 1911 - thus keeping the benefits of the 1911 (trigger, accuracy) while increasing capacity and reducing weight - and now we have the 2011 - that’s making inroads with police, military and the 2 factions - the 1911 people who appreciate an enhanced platform that retains a lot of the original and the polymer striker people who are trying these 2011’s and realizing how awesome they are! This is groundbreaking!!!
But in this video you review of this Wilson and the punchline is “it’s good” - I think it deserves a lot more than that! The new guns Wilson has produced are groundbreaking in many ways… if you perhaps don’t like the idea of a polymer grip module screwed onto a steel or aluminum frame (Prodigy and Staccato) or a more elegant aluminum grip module (Nighthawk), Wilson has address this with a one-piece design. If you love the idea of a lighter slide and an external extractor mated to a one-piece double stack frame you have the Tri-cut slides of the EDC and SFX - if you like a wider frame you buy the EDC with the G10 inserts, if you like the thinner fame you get the SFX or SFT. If you prefer a traditional slide you buy the gun in this video… But I think your video glosses over some pretty significant enhancements by Wilson… First, you have a 2011 alternative in the one-piece design, second, you have choices of modern or traditional slide and extractor designs, third, you have the elimination of the grip safety (simplification, reduced weight, complexity and maintenance), fourth, you have a redesigned barrel to slide lockup in the EDC and SFX that more resembles a polymer pistol lockup, fifth, you have cut slide rails in these models vs traditional 1911’s with full length slide rails to improve reliability when dirty, 6th, you have 15 flush and 18 round magazines (that work in all of these guns - great simplicity and compatibility from Mec Gar), where the 18’s only protrude a little, 7th, you have extensive engineering that provides double stack capacity with a thinner grip…
These Wilsons are as groundbreaking as the original concept of the 2011 and would love to see some
Videos on this evolution as Wilson has truly moved the game on.
My suggestion to Wilson is to extend these designs to utilize steel frames for us nerds that like steel on steel vs steel and aluminum) but I would imagine these frames would be nearly impossible to forge in steel, perhaps a new casting process to offer these incredible designs in all stainless or carbon steel. Just some of my thoughts!
I really appreciate your honesty as everyone is gushing over this gun . Yes I still love my atlas Titan but can’t carry it . I’m leaning towards the Bul thanks again Gary
Been looking forward to this video. Ordered an sfx9 4” directly from WC in November (8 month lead time) for edc. Anxiously awaiting an update call. I concur with the comments on their customer service and attention to detail. Makes spending $$$$ feel pretty good.
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WC is totally awesome
Great company
Excellent Video guys.
I just wanted to give kudos to Chris as he always shows very safe gun-handling techniques here and really in every video.
Reminder to all of us, follow his lead.
Safety first
How do these (SFX9/SFT9) compare to a Staccato C2?
I was really wanting a Wilson, but the Staccato is getting a lot of praise and its significantly cheaper.
Wilson mags are much more affordable, though. Staccato's magazine prices are outright robbery.
I watched this video when I first got the SFT almost a year ago and then again today. It has gone from a range toy to literally my do everything gun in that time. I thought I would add my thoughts in the comments for anyone looking to get one.
I was a striker fire or DA/SA guy until I picked up a Staccato P. Fantastic gun but was too big for an EDC for me. I got a Staccato CS. Little gun and a great carry size but truly a bit snappy for my tastes. (Yes, I can handle the recoil fine but why should I have to when there is a better option.) Eenter the SFT. I actually went to buy an SFX but they had the T in stock and I am not the most patient person so I bought it.
As I got to know the gun and shot it more and more I fell in love with it. I eventually did a shoot off with all the guns I felt I shot the best. Using quantifiable metrics, the SFT was the clear winner and it wasn’t even close with any of the striker fire guns and the SFT out performed the Staccato P in my hands as well.
I have put between 5 and 6 thousand rounds though it at this point. I have not seen a difference in the 1147 and the 115 grain ammo but my palate is likely not as refined as yours. It is extremely reliable for about 500 to 700 rounds after cleaning. It will then start to feed rounds in slow motion until you clean and oil it. (Oil alone isn’t enough btw.) It took me six months of practice before I was 100% subconsciously competent with the safety coming off with the draw stroke. Now I carry this everywhere it is legal and I don’t need a 10mm. I have 22 magazines for the range so I can run a lot of training with minimal time reloading. Most of those mags are the 18 round mags. (It is worth noting, most of those would only take 17 rounds until they had been broken in.) I haven’t done an IDPA match in a while but feel the SFT will shine in that atmosphere.
Anyway, if anyone else is thinking of getting one of these I feel it is money well spent. It takes more time to maintain than an HK or Glock. It is the most narrow double stack grip you can get on a 1911 and carries extremely well.
As always, great job with your videos.
JC
Thanks a lot for this. I use the p220 and a p365xl. I love staccato's grip texture but not their bulky features. What is your opinion of SFT9's grip texture.
@@kellenhietpas7349 I really like the texture on the SFT9. The front and back are extremely grippy while the sides are not quite as aggressive. Perfect for carry IMO
Great video! Appreciate all the great content here and on the Patreon channel.
Thanks for tuning in
I will purchase this as soon as a rail model is released.
Epic video, epic location. Well done boys :)
This was child’s play compared to a couple of the upcoming ones
Thanks brother man appreciate and miss you guys already
my biggest complaint with the standard 2011 series is the magazines. The Wilson EDCx9, SFT9, Experior series offer amazing magazines. Its really a game changer.
Agree. 2011 mags are a weakness
SFT9 is not technically a 1911. There's a number of differences like no grip safety. etc. Obviously very similar to a 1911, based on the 1911. Anyway, it's the dream gun I waited decades for, and while not cheap, you pay for the best, and it gets no better than a Wilson, and the AFT9 is the peak Wilson offering. I always wanted a dead reliable double stack 9mm based on 1911, made for CCW, and they did it. The EDC was close, didn't like the ergos.
Nice, it's very similar to my eXperior Commander Double Stack and she's a sweetheart.
👍🏻👍🏻
Aluminum based 1911s are always gona feel more snappy compared to a polymer or steel frame across equal sized pistols.
I just put money down on one of these last week for a sfx9. I'm the guy that ended up with your triarc tri 11 also. My wife's gonna kill me if I keep watching and buying guns lol.
Hahaha. Tell her I signed off on it
I have the Sfx9, it’s a great pistol .
Any gripes? Recommend over staccato? Looking at the 4in. How’s the grip, looks not very aggressive almost smooth?
Jake’s silly ass gonna go snow blind wearing them clears out there. Bout to start a new job so maybe i can afford one of them blasters soon. Hell yeah homies
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Thanks for the video guys 👊🏻
7075 is a great aluminum alloy. About 84% stronger than 6061 with a higher hardness for wear resistance and lower thermal conductivity, making it an excellent choice for firearm parts that aren't the bolt/barrel. The main chemical difference is the higher zinc content in 7075. T6 is pretty much the go-to heat treat spec for high-grade aluminum alloys. Saying the heat treat before the alloy is weird.
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Great line of guns, own a few different ones. Great review also
If we're being honest it really just has to be reliable enough to get through the ammo that's in the gun and whatever spare magazines you carry. Then maybe a 200 round practice session, and you can stop shooting and lube it then.
"it's not like she can run away"... damn :)
Cold
Brother your videos really are the best. Keep up the good work guys we love what you do!
Thank you
Thank you good sir appreciate you 👊🏼
The SFT is dope but the classic slide with the "explosive" grip design seems to conflict aesthetically. So I'd get the SFX
Solid stuff gentlemen. 23 ‘bout to be turnt, as the kids would say.
Definitely cool lookin 1911/2011
These are pretty cool and I prefer the traditional look of the slide vs some of their similar guns. It would be a lot more appealing at a price point closer to $2k.
Agree, but hand fitting & labor drives up the price FAST. I have a Les Baer, and it lacks in attention to detail & finish compared to a WC.
A gun that Jake actually likes? 😮 I can’t blame you brother Wilson Combat is top notch in my opinion
@Chris Blau dude just saw you in Achilles heel video! Love their stuff!!!
Tonight on 1911 Syndicate : Crispy shows off his new house, Jake is not on top of the world, and will a 1911 from Arkansas make it's cousin the Glock look attractive?
Crispy is very proud of his new cave
Jeremy Clarkson is reading this in my head.
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The WC pistol is amazing!! Only major downside, that was mentioned, single sided safety. And if you happen to purchase from a seller other than Wilson, you’re out of luck. They refuse to sell any safety. Ambi or otherwise. Very frustrating! Especially after putting down quite a bit for their firearms. 👎🏻. But the pistol is awesome.
The Ambi safety is a factory option. I don’t know about it as aftermarket accessory.
Skip to 5:45 if you want to bypass most* of the useless fluff. Tech info starts there, before that it’s just two random dudes stroking their sponsors.
These guys are like 2 high school chics who can not stay on topic
Looks like the grip safety is missing? I love it!
Nice review.debating between this and a edcx9
I just picked one of these up and it's amazing. Loved the video as well. However, I'm REALLY interested in what's in that cave lol
Dark secrets
Interested to hear your thoughts about this over the Alpha Foxtrot s15, they seem super similar in basic build.
Like their range, be funny if a cougar strolls by.
We told her we were not interested in older women.
thats a damn good lookin piece. wish it was a tad cheaper.
Do a video on the cave in the rock behind you at the intro to your video. Too cool not to do a video about!!
Haha if we only knew
That cave leads to the mole people world in hollow earth. Flesh eaters... The scrawny ginger could get away, but the big guy is toast. Would make a fun video for sure.
@@1911syndicate Go explore..
Cool video thanks.
Thank you sir
Jake for a guy your size is the sft9 to big for an everyday carry, I'm about your size and haven't been able to find one to get my hands on.
Finally!
Love us some WIlson too and proud to be a dealer! Hit us up if we can help track one down 🤘🏼
Wait what 1911 video🤔
Where is the prodigy video guys.
Oh and do the TX22 compact video.
Prodigy I’m sure at some point we’ll do
Nice video, awesome that you filmed on Hoth.. ... ... on the outside..
Is Eskimo not PC anymore? Asking for my Indian & Mexican friends.
I have enjoyed your videos. The contact is always excellent. I am moving off of the UA-cam platform and over to Rumble. Would you guys be willing to simulcast on Rumble? I don’t wanna miss any of your good content.
WC is GTG! Any chance you will review the Archron Type B Gen 2?
I met them at shot show. And will be messaging them about getting the new Gen. I liked what I saw
good just another gun i want now lol
Is it really a 1911 if it doesn’t have a grip safety though?
Yep
Yes. Honestly I’ve started to prefer not having a grip safety as long as the thumb safety is properly fit
Wilson builds good guns, I have a couple.
While they’re not my favorite handguns by any means, one thing WC sets the fukking Bar on; Customer Service.
Fun Vid guys. You’re doing WINTER HELL right.
Curious what ARE your fav?
They nail it on customer service
@@tomharper8351 For carry I have a couple Staccato’s that are substantially modified, and a couple P365x with PMM Barrel/Comp and Wilson (go figure) grip frames. For pure enjoyment a few full on Custom 1911’s (Yost, Don Williams, Harrison, etc).
Just curious why u never did a video on the HK VP9sk... I just always wondered what your opinion is on them. Especially now that they are optic ready
No reason in particular other than we simply haven’t gotten one yet
@@1911syndicate understandable lol
Uhhh ohhh I'm tuned in for sure
Since this is 1911 syndicate can you make a review on the Oracle arms 2311 & a new model of cabot guns please ????????
Hopefully. The oracle I think has a ways to go before it truly hits the market
so, i have the wc experior. i do not see alot of difference between the 2 models
It looks like a 1911 but it isn't. Bil Wilson was inspired by an alloy- framed higher capacity Star Pistol.
we need compare with SFX9
It's the same gun pretty much just the classic slide vs the new one
@@Michael-uf1hz id like to see accuracy differency between bull barrel and bushing system.
@@bourjuva gotcha, I'd imagine its negligible but could be some difference.
@@Michael-uf1hz only thing i think we can compare between 2 others just cosmatic
@@Michael-uf1hzsft9 is grippier
So, good carry gun, but the EDC X9 is still better?
I think it’s a toss up between the two
Can you get a full grip on it?
I can
@@1911syndicate thank you Sir
Kinda deflating video I was thinking about getting one of these but maybe il just get a sexy single stack
Just depends on your end use for the gun
@@1911syndicate primarily conceal carry with lots of range time. I really want a smooth shooter though. It just seems like for that kind of money I should be blown away and you guys didn't seem to be. You have handled way more 1911s than I have so I respect your opinions.
I have 4k at my disposal and want a superior 1911 platform for carry any suggestions would be awesome.
What was the deal with Chris' "It's not like she's running away" joke at the end? Is his wife in a wheelchair or something?
Correct
Hae you guys (or ayone reading this0 used Wilson 2011 mags in a Stacatto P 2011ÉÉ How did it goÉÉÉ
I was sold at double stack lol
Methinks I’d rather have the EDC x9.
Certainly a valid debate
LMT is not Gucci. LMT has a big problem with putting out messed up parts with HORRIBLE machining, and nearly non-existent QC...... They are a dumpster fire that charges WAAAAAYYYY more than they're worth.
That sounds like most gucci companies
great gun, but not until i can hang a light..can’t shoot what you can’t see, and bad guys tend to do bad things when it’s dark
I do agree a light rail would’ve been good
Use a hand held
@@Chrisblau i carry one, but just can’t spend the money if i can’t mount a light..in case a hand is tied up or injured. i’ll def be watching for a version with the rail.
@@normwilson117just came out with light rail version
wilson or stacatto
Wilson
EB-EVO KC9
A much better commander style pistol in 9mm.
In the video title you call me the SFT9 "the do it all 1911". I don't consider the SFT9 to be a true 1911 or even a true 2011. It may have 1911/2011 like controls etc but it has no grip safety, so.... not a 1911!
READ THE FINE PRINT!!!! It’s not as good as they pretend to be, the insurance Lol obviously
Montage is weird now that you can't show reloads
On pistols we are probably still going to be able to. On rifles no
More interested in the door in that rock than the boomers favorite gun…
Hey now
@@1911syndicate and looking at the hairless yeti
From my experience Nighthawk is way better; Wilson`s quality has gone downhill since 2020
I like your content but I'm done with UA-cam. Please post on Rumble.
No
Jake, you are a cool dude. You know your swim lane and you stay in it. But your big goofy buddy is a know-it-all tool.
3k$ wtfff
Fair price in my opinion
Do it all 1911😂 oxymoron
You guys talk too much
Waste of my time !!!