I am slightly confused by the quote in the video at the 2:06 mark, "Either they run the tar out too soon or burn it too long'. Does this mean there is control over when the tar comes out? I always thought the tar comes out whenever it decides to. Also, what does the tar look and smell like when it comes out too soon? I think I might have made some tar that came out prematurely and wasn't heated long enough. It was a light tan/beige color, and very gooey and opaque. I then heated it in a cast iron pan, and it seemed to bubble a little bit, and then afterwards, the tar was a transparent dark amber color, extremely thick and sticky with no ability to pour it. It also had the most amazing sweet aroma, but no smokiness to it. Does the smoky scent come from all the smoke in the kiln? What was the stuff I made I wonder......thank you for any insights and for sharing this really interesting knowledge.
In large scale kiln the tar is lead out through a pipe that remains plugged until the tar inside the kiln is matured. In the beginning of burning the tar still includes some water and other impurities and in the end of burning the tar gets black and thick. The best quality comes out in the middle of burning and is light, golden brown in color, contains no water and runs easily. Almost like good quality motor oil but with sweet smell.
Wow, that makes sense, thank you. So would it be correct to say that in a traditional large scale valley kiln, that much of the tar gathers in a sort of "puddle" on the bottom of the catchment basin, right by the drainage hole, and ends up maturing there in much lower temperatures, before being released when the plug is pulled? Feel very thankful to have some expert Finnish insights on this topic. @@mikkosnellman 🙏
I have a strange question, but I would be most appreciative for an answer. Are there certain grades of pine tar that when you mix with acetone there is a carbon residue left behind? Or does all the tar dissolve in acetone with nothing left behind?
Very informative, and good timing. I've been researching the various pine tar products here in the states, but source and quality is hard to pinpoint. I'm looking for a tar that I can apply to natural fiber cordage, mostly cotton. Any recommendations will be much appreciated. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
By tradition, different kind of tar based slush was mixed for standing rigging but for ropes only pure, light, best quality kiln distilled tar was used. The problem is that it doesn´t tell the source on the label of your can.
Loved this! The only "stockholm tar" I've been able to find on the market is black as the ace of spade and they recommend cutting it with linseed oil to make it easier to apply with a brush. R&W Rope sells a small tub of what they call Stockholm Tar, but they don't tell you anything about it, especially if it's been cut with linseed oil. The one review that describes it says, "This is great pine tar! Has a good, clean, dark, smoky smell and is great quality for the price. It has a distinct, slightly dark red, hue and tackiness. Its a bit thicker and stickier than Auson pine tar and much thicker (and way less acrid smelling) than Bickmore." I don't know what that means, but I also don't know if I want to spend $60 to find out. That "dark red hue and tackiness" seems to suggest that there's linseed oil in it because I've never heard anyone say genuine tar was the least bit red. I can produce small quantities of tar on my own, sure, but I'd much rather buy a gallon and not have to worry about chopping down trees, etc.
Look for pine tar that is produced in Finland or Sweden and possibilities of getting higher quality are bigger. In Finnish "Hautaterva" and in Swedish "Dalbränd tjära"
Sir never heard of this product, thank you for sharing, learned much today,.....ATB
That was interesting, now I understand better your previous video “How to make tar” Thank you.
in the philippines we called it alkatran
I am slightly confused by the quote in the video at the 2:06 mark, "Either they run the tar out too soon or burn it too long'. Does this mean there is control over when the tar comes out? I always thought the tar comes out whenever it decides to. Also, what does the tar look and smell like when it comes out too soon? I think I might have made some tar that came out prematurely and wasn't heated long enough. It was a light tan/beige color, and very gooey and opaque. I then heated it in a cast iron pan, and it seemed to bubble a little bit, and then afterwards, the tar was a transparent dark amber color, extremely thick and sticky with no ability to pour it. It also had the most amazing sweet aroma, but no smokiness to it. Does the smoky scent come from all the smoke in the kiln? What was the stuff I made I wonder......thank you for any insights and for sharing this really interesting knowledge.
In large scale kiln the tar is lead out through a pipe that remains plugged until the tar inside the kiln is matured. In the beginning of burning the tar still includes some water and other impurities and in the end of burning the tar gets black and thick. The best quality comes out in the middle of burning and is light, golden brown in color, contains no water and runs easily. Almost like good quality motor oil but with sweet smell.
Wow, that makes sense, thank you. So would it be correct to say that in a traditional large scale valley kiln, that much of the tar gathers in a sort of "puddle" on the bottom of the catchment basin, right by the drainage hole, and ends up maturing there in much lower temperatures, before being released when the plug is pulled? Feel very thankful to have some expert Finnish insights on this topic. @@mikkosnellman 🙏
That was a passionate explanation.
Yes, unfortunately the rich language doesn´t translate too well.
Now I want to see the process of making tar! Also, “as black as a bears blueberry shit” cracked me up, that’s an expression I’ll never forget lol.
I have a strange question, but I would be most appreciative for an answer. Are there certain grades of pine tar that when you mix with acetone there is a carbon residue left behind? Or does all the tar dissolve in acetone with nothing left behind?
I am sorry, I can not give you an answer since I have never tried diluting tar with acetone.
Very informative, and good timing. I've been researching the various pine tar products here in the states, but source and quality is hard to pinpoint. I'm looking for a tar that I can apply to natural fiber cordage, mostly cotton. Any recommendations will be much appreciated. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
By tradition, different kind of tar based slush was mixed for standing rigging but for ropes only pure, light, best quality kiln distilled tar was used. The problem is that it doesn´t tell the source on the label of your can.
@@mikkosnellman you've been helpful Mikko, thank you.
Loved this! The only "stockholm tar" I've been able to find on the market is black as the ace of spade and they recommend cutting it with linseed oil to make it easier to apply with a brush. R&W Rope sells a small tub of what they call Stockholm Tar, but they don't tell you anything about it, especially if it's been cut with linseed oil. The one review that describes it says, "This is great pine tar! Has a good, clean, dark, smoky smell and is great quality for the price. It has a distinct, slightly dark red, hue and tackiness. Its a bit thicker and stickier than Auson pine tar and much thicker (and way less acrid smelling) than Bickmore."
I don't know what that means, but I also don't know if I want to spend $60 to find out. That "dark red hue and tackiness" seems to suggest that there's linseed oil in it because I've never heard anyone say genuine tar was the least bit red.
I can produce small quantities of tar on my own, sure, but I'd much rather buy a gallon and not have to worry about chopping down trees, etc.
Look for pine tar that is produced in Finland or Sweden and possibilities of getting higher quality are bigger. In Finnish "Hautaterva" and in Swedish "Dalbränd tjära"
@@mikkosnellman Thank you for the tip!