I believe this may be 'the strong delusion' the Lord brings on His people that do not love the Truth! Jesus comes back IN His people before He comes back WITH His people. Christ in you... will be The witness upon the earth during tribulation so a final harvest is gathered 👍
Greetings. As a fellow die hard pre-tribber, I am here to kindly ask you to reconsider your position that post-tribber's will face the wrath of God for several reasons. 1) The wrath of God is against unbelievers and adversaries, not those who hold to a mid or post trib view of the rapture. 2) There isn't a verse stating post-tribbers are subject to 7 years of tribulation. Again, that period of time is for unbelievers. It is not predicated on one's eschatology. 3) Your Jeremiah reference is connecting dots that are an opinion, not scripture. If we hold to the literal view of scripture (as most pre-tribbers do) then we must not insert the idea that a post trib believer will be in 7 year tribulation when the bible says they won't if they are a believer in Jesus as Lord. Look at all verses on church age believers being exempt from divine wrath. Not one of them gives any context that it is anything other than faith in Jesus.
They would be teaching that the people who had the wrath of God propitiated on Jesus Christ would go through the wrath of God in the Tribulation. This would fall under Galatians 1:8, to where they would be Condemned (anathema in Greek) We see in 2 Thess 2 that Paul taught the pretrib rapture in his 3 weeks in Thessolonica (he never went back). Because this is part of the gospel, preaching against it would land one in deep trouble.
@@godconversations2513 Greetings sir and thank you for the reply. The common post tribber is surely still a believer in the gospel, they still believe in salvation from faith in Jesus and not by our works. They are just falsely under the notion that we must endure the 7 year trib, under the auspices of "the disciples faced persecution and died, so must we". When I look at all the verses about being saved, it is always around faith in Jesus. Nothing more. Yes the rapture was taught to the early church, but that doesn't make it part of the gospel. Indeed post-tribbers are wrong in their eschatology to think that the BOC is subject to divine wrath, but I do not see scripture specifying which believers are raptured. Instead, what i see is that if you are a believer, you are raptured. I may have wrong opinions on doctrines or biblical concepts, but that doesn't negate me being raptured. Why can i say that with 100% certainty? Because Christ is my king and my salvation is secure in Him. He comes for His bride, even if they misunderstand the timing, or communion, or works, etc. Cheers brother, maranatha.
Those verses have literally nothing to do with the pre-tribulation rapture. But they speak against false teachers/prophets... Methinks you do project... The Gospel is 1 Cor 15; 1-4 God bless you all, in Jesus' name. Amen.
This proves that God protects the righteous from his wrath and judgement.
This is great cookie. Thank you for sharing.
Shalom from Thailand Captain Cookie.
I believe this may be 'the strong delusion' the Lord brings on His people that do not love the Truth! Jesus comes back IN His people before He comes back WITH His people. Christ in you... will be The witness upon the earth during tribulation so a final harvest is gathered 👍
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Greetings. As a fellow die hard pre-tribber, I am here to kindly ask you to reconsider your position that post-tribber's will face the wrath of God for several reasons. 1) The wrath of God is against unbelievers and adversaries, not those who hold to a mid or post trib view of the rapture. 2) There isn't a verse stating post-tribbers are subject to 7 years of tribulation. Again, that period of time is for unbelievers. It is not predicated on one's eschatology. 3) Your Jeremiah reference is connecting dots that are an opinion, not scripture. If we hold to the literal view of scripture (as most pre-tribbers do) then we must not insert the idea that a post trib believer will be in 7 year tribulation when the bible says they won't if they are a believer in Jesus as Lord. Look at all verses on church age believers being exempt from divine wrath. Not one of them gives any context that it is anything other than faith in Jesus.
They would be teaching that the people who had the wrath of God propitiated on Jesus Christ would go through the wrath of God in the Tribulation. This would fall under Galatians 1:8, to where they would be Condemned (anathema in Greek)
We see in 2 Thess 2 that Paul taught the pretrib rapture in his 3 weeks in Thessolonica (he never went back).
Because this is part of the gospel, preaching against it would land one in deep trouble.
@@godconversations2513 Greetings sir and thank you for the reply. The common post tribber is surely still a believer in the gospel, they still believe in salvation from faith in Jesus and not by our works. They are just falsely under the notion that we must endure the 7 year trib, under the auspices of "the disciples faced persecution and died, so must we". When I look at all the verses about being saved, it is always around faith in Jesus. Nothing more. Yes the rapture was taught to the early church, but that doesn't make it part of the gospel. Indeed post-tribbers are wrong in their eschatology to think that the BOC is subject to divine wrath, but I do not see scripture specifying which believers are raptured. Instead, what i see is that if you are a believer, you are raptured. I may have wrong opinions on doctrines or biblical concepts, but that doesn't negate me being raptured. Why can i say that with 100% certainty? Because Christ is my king and my salvation is secure in Him. He comes for His bride, even if they misunderstand the timing, or communion, or works, etc. Cheers brother, maranatha.
Those verses have literally nothing to do with the pre-tribulation rapture. But they speak against false teachers/prophets... Methinks you do project...
The Gospel is 1 Cor 15; 1-4
God bless you all, in Jesus' name. Amen.